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#1
Very well. If that's the cast, then let us keep it specific to this one section.

...but I can't do that myself without making a mess of rests. Is it possible for someone with a paid Finale product to do it for me?
#2
Putting the chord there in a separate layer from everything else makes it stick out. Frankly, I would prefer to have the fifth option (chord and bass in their own layers throughout the score) but you all are probably better versed in developing sheet music than I am.
#3
Oh, then I got the wrong idea of what you were suggesting. I figure I should give a few more examples now that I thought it over. Maybe one of these is what you're thinking of.

Fourth, moving the chord there to the second layer and keeping the bass in the first, such as this:
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This one looks messy and unorganized, but at least the bass part is together.

Fifth, putting all of the chord part in one layer and all of the bass part in another. This leaves many residual rests, but deleting the ones that can be deleted and hiding the rest yields this:
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At least, that is what it looks like in the MuseScore editor. On a PDF, it displays quite cleanly, like this:
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This is probably the cleanest option, and it can be used throughout the entire sheet. I think I prefer this one.

All of these images are hosted on imgur. The album can be accessed here.

Update: I finally saw what you meant when you asked "is this the sort of thing you want"; I somehow didn't see the image attached.
#4
If it's what I think it is, it seems to break the treble line.

Here are the ideas that came to mind:

First, keeping the chord in the treble staff, putting it in a second layer:
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I think this is what you recommended. It feels out of place, though.

Second, putting the chord in the bass staff, putting either it or the bass part in the second layer (as I showed earlier):
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This breaks the bass line. It seems a bit weird, but it's the cleanest.

Third, using only one layer, but making the bass two tied 16th notes.
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This is a weird option overall, but it avoids layer mechanics, which means that I can do this myself.
#5
It's either that, breaking the treble line, or using tied 16th notes for the bass in those measures.
#6
Thanks for rolling the chord. It was updated accordingly.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the sort of thing (I) want for the other point" but if it helps to have an image, I made one:

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I'm thinking something like that.
#7
I tried to do it, and I don't think that's an option unless somebody does it for me on a paid Finale.

So that leaves two things that I can't do that I should:
1. roll the chord in m21 LH
2. Move the sixteenth notes in mm. 2, 6, 11, 15, 20 to another layer and extend the melody through the measure. Idea: Let's move them back to the left hand but make "the and of 3" in the LH of those measures an eighth note in another layer. Inevitably, if we extend the melody through the measure, the pattern would be a bit more difficult, so we should move it with the rest of the chord part to make the sheet that much more visually pleasing(?)

Actually, let me try doing it on MuseScore first. I think I can actually get it done there. It kind of worked. I was able to do the things, but it broke the page formatting, and trying to fix it again didn't work too well, so I didn't confirm the changes. Someone with paid Finale, please help.
#8
1. I guess I'll add some, then. I did. Is this what you were thinking?
2. I wanted to extend these through the measure, but if I put the sixteenth notes in another layer, it leaves behind a bunch of note rests, deleting which shifts the 16th notes in the measure. The other thing I could do (and once did) would be to put them in the left hand with the rest of its part, but that requires tying two sixteenths in the true bass of those chords. (Latios recommended I move them to RH to avoid this.)
3. Agreed.
#9
@Brassman: Thanks for the formatting edit. I updated the score accordingly.
@Trasdegi: I use MuseScore. I know you have a guide, and while it was helpful, I still encountered some complications that made it more worthwhile just to try to put up with NotePad. It has been a while, so I don't remember exactly what was the issue, but I do recall having some difficulties with it.
#10
Wow, that's quite a guide. But there's a problem: I can't find a lot of these menus. Maybe it has something to do with my only having Finale NotePad. Someone who is more familiar with NotePad: Do these menus exist, and if so, where? If not, then could somebody please make these fixes for me?
#11
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. I don't usually focus on the sheets as much as I do the audio, so I'm not sure what aspects can be improved in that regard.
#12
Adding the pattern to the right hand is only half the battle. Thanks for pointing out my forgetting to remove it from the left hand. Updated.
#13
That isn't true in every instance. In measure 11, the right hand should be holding an A4 when an instance occurs. That would transfer the weird pattern from the left hand to the right, which doesn't get rid of it. What should be done there?

Other than that, the idea of moving the sixteenths to the other hand feels wrong, but probably because I take a technical look at the sheet more than the performance aspect of it. Nevertheless, I'm working on it, and I will update the score and this post when it is ready.

UPDATE: I moved the sixteenth notes in the weird patterns to the right hand, but in m. 11, it required sacrificing note length.
#14
Weird - I thought I updated it. I must have saved it at an incorrect point or something. It should now be updated properly.
#15
I made some edits according to Libera's recommendations. Here are my addresses to the points given:

1. I moved the left-hand part an octave up. I had them down in the first place because of the D4 notes in the melody always coinciding with a D4 in the chords had they been up. This only occurs four times, though, so it isn't a big issue, I guess.
2. I'm not sure. If it's decided so, I'll change it back.
3. I did that because I found it better to repeat where the phrases begin and end (essentially where the piece loops) but I guess I'm one of the only people who do that. I have a version with it being longer saved to my computer, but in case shortening it like this is ideal, I used this one in the submission update. I'm not very fond of where it cuts off, though...
4. It should be, and in my main arrangement, I had it like that, but I haven't found that feature in Finale NotePad (someone with paid Finale, please help?)

edited for wording