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[no lynch]

no lynch

I think this is the mechanical best vote for this phase after thinking about it.

Brawler, if you're confused by this post, here's my point.

Try to put yourself in mikey's shoes here and ask yourself why you would play his game as a wolf and as a town.

[Brawler]

I'll go with Brawler on this one.

I'm fairly confident on mikey's tone to have good intentions despite the playstyle, but I've seen that playstyle before multiple times on FFR and I'm not surprised that he ended up being a target.

Brawler's posts look good on paper, but I'm still uncertain on if that's a set up to get a quick lynch on mikey or if there's more to it. I feel like he's not really trying to understand mikey's point of view and stick to what seems wolfy without the why.

Also, votes seems to have solidified around mikey and I don't like it.

chat logs weeee:

NocturneOfShadow - Today at 12:51 AM
it's daytime fool
Haku - Today at 12:55 AM
just got back from work
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:25 AM
Nice
What's your thoughts on the night
Haku - Today at 1:26 AM
wolves shot jasper
vigi shot nothing
the rest
(yes, wolves have guns)
I still had ITAs in mind from the FE game
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:27 AM
Lol
Do you think vigi could have been roleblocked
Or do you think it was an abstain
Haku - Today at 1:29 AM
could be roleblocked
you can assume roleblocker knows who's vigi potentially
but it's still 50/50
because of the no shot possibility
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:30 AM
I wish it was bigger than that
But nsm hates vigis
So I've decided you're a pr
Not a wolf
Still unsure because of how confused you were acting, cause it felt faked to me
But I'm going to hope for the best in this case
Haku - Today at 1:32 AM
gj
except that I don't know if lucky or if it's because you know the game

well, this phase is probably going to be a repeat of the first one
and wait for more seer checks
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:33 AM
What do you mean by because I know the game?
Haku - Today at 1:34 AM
wolves know the game
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:34 AM
Oh
Anyway
Just thought I'd tell you where I'm at
Because I was pretty suspicious of you last night
Haku - Today at 1:35 AM
good
I still play the same trash level as last game tbh
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:35 AM
Working on the poe and felt like maybe you wouldn't be so... je ne sais quoi about it
Haku - Today at 1:36 AM
I was fishing
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:36 AM
For?
Haku - Today at 1:36 AM
figuring out who to help/not help
honestly people here don't leave a lot of room for figuring them out
and it's even harder when you're new here
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:37 AM
Lol nope
It can make you appreciate how deep I dig sometimes
Haku - Today at 1:37 AM
tbh im surprised you're still alive
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:38 AM
You thought I would be vigis?
Haku - Today at 1:38 AM
yeah or wolf'd
just for being active
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:38 AM
I don't get wolfed here
Ever
Haku - Today at 1:38 AM
you're jasper ? lol
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:38 AM
I mean on nsm
They don't wolf me
Haku - Today at 1:39 AM
huh
I guess it's because you unveil too much info
and they get a feel of if you're going in the right place
idk
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:39 AM
I'm a mislynch
I'm often right, so that's not why they don't kill me
Haku - Today at 1:40 AM
im probably not talking/posting the entire day tomorrow until like 1 am btw
have to go out early then work
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:40 AM
That's probably fine tbh
Just post when you can, make some accusations or summations
Try to drop a vote somewhere
We don't cfd
Haku - Today at 1:42 AM
brawler thinks you're a wolf in the thread
thoughts ?
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:43 AM
Probably means he's town
He's only been a wolf recently I think
And he tries to pocket town
So if he's being more accusatory
I think he's town
Haku - Today at 1:43 AM
looks like he wants to set me up as the jasper this game
because you talked with me
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:44 AM
Interesting
Haku - Today at 1:44 AM
not sure what that means in the greater scale
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:44 AM
Angleshooting I think
Haku - Today at 1:44 AM
you've seen the post ?
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 1:44 AM
I don't know if he realizes I'm the one who invited everybody
No

I disagree. For the Seer, I think even if they get a wolf color flip early, as long as they are laying low, they could maybe gather some more info before coming foward and getting on the wolves' radar.

I would agree if this was a long game.

This game depends of if corruption was used or not and if the bodyguard is still alive to protect the next phase.

If corruption wasn't used and Seer found nothing special, they should stay hidden.

The point is that it would make the pool of unknown players smaller and increase the chances for the Vigi to get a hit.

[Hakue]

Hakue

It's night

tsh, he's telling his wolf partner who to night kill.

Clearly, why use discord for this when you can post about it directly for everyone to see.

This is the power of postgame memes.

This would only happen if the wolves chose to wolf one of themselves, and the guardian just happens to pick that target.

The Vigi shot is what I had in mind when I wrote this.

Can the roleblocker stop the night kill? I understood that it would only stop the painting, if it hits a wolf.

I believe it does if this is the wolf that sent the night kill.

So, I know this is a free country universe, but let's assume for a moment you're all living under my dictatorship.

Food for thoughts:

1. Mass claiming is not allowed.
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It just how the setup works.

2. Corruption is an unstoppable kill power and no one should claim during the first night because of it preferably.
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If you claimed and you're an important role, you're most likely going to die even if you're protected.
They can also hold on that power, but with that player pool, it's the safest day for waiting.

3. The main roles are the Seer and the Vigi. They shouldn't claim during this night.
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They should only claim if they get a hit. (red check(debatable with painting)/wolf died(matters if full cardflips)

Note:
Vigi doesn't have to claim, but keep in mind this is a 10 players setup and consider the amount of town players alive. May claim if for some reasons they can't find a wolf and don't want to risk a mislynch after the first shot. It will clear their slot in theory.

4. Bodyguard and Roleblocker should try to figure out a way to not get in each others way.
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I don't think bodyguard should do anything this first night because they could protect a wolf by mistake and die.
Roleblocker should definitely try to roleblock because if they block the night kill, no one will die and the roleblocker will solve a wolf assuming we can differentiate the Vigi shot from the roleblock.

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All of the above doesn't apply to Day 2 and later.

Oh, hello mikey.

in