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Show posts MenuQuote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 11:47:22 PMIt looks okay to me at least (see attachment) and has the added benefit of showing it should be played by the RH, but again up to youOh I looked at that comment before changing the Fn to D, which made it look way more cluttered before. I think moving the Bb to the upper staff is fine, but flipping the beam downward moves the duration information extremely far away from the pitch information, so I think leaving it upwards is better.
Sorry, I meant beat 3. Think I still hear 4.5 as well but it is rather faint.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 11:47:22 PMSorry, I meant beat 3. Think I still hear 4.5 as well but it is rather faint.I still don't hear either, and adding an octave on beat 3 seems out of place in a contour that's otherwise simple and fading out
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMI guess the bass already has an Eb, so that one isn't important and I removed it
- m6: Not hearing the Eb at beat 1 RH
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMThe C4 does sound better, but I can't figure out what you're talking about with the C3 on beat 2.5. There aren't any notes at all on beat 2.5, and I don't hear any other C3s aside from what's already written
- m7: Hearing C4 instead of G at LH beat 1, and a C3 at beat 2.5
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMSure
- m9 & 13: The B at beat 1 in the RH sounds an octave lower
- m10 & 14: The Bb at beat 1 in the RH sounds an octave lower
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMMaybe, but that would be very difficult to play coming out of those chromatic 16th notes the beat before
- m11: I think I hear D4 at beat 1?
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMI guess the Fn can come from the LH on beat 2 instead, but Bb3 and D4 would be impossible to play
- m15: I hear Bb3 and D4 instead of F4 at beat 1
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMIf moved cross-staff, that Bb causes a lot of visual clutter with the B naturals on beat 4
- m18: The high LH Bb could be cross-staved? The beam can stay below the staff as to not add extra clutter
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMIn the original, it's an impossible D4. When raising it to a playable D5, I thought an octave+3rd on beat 4 was slightly jarring coming from a unison Bb on beat 3, and that doubling the root instead sounded smoother. But you do lose the D completely with that approach, so I've changed it back.
- m18: Beat 4 in the RH should have a D instead of F
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMPlaying an A3 on beat 1 is impossible, and lowering it to an A2 muddies the rest of the base contour significantly. And I don't hear any new strikes on beat 4.5
- m23: I hear additional A3s at beat 3 and possibly 4.5
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMI thought it would come across that layer 2 was intended to be played with the LH, but if you use a treble clef that whole part fits comfortably into the bottom staff anyway
- m2: Thoughts on making the RH lower layer part of the LH? I think it's most comfortable to play that way and also visually looks better. You could start using the treble clef in m1 as well
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMYeah it looks like Finale snaps the number to just outside the staff for some reason. I moved it down a little bit
- m7: The tuplet number in the LH seems too high up (in the PDF at least)
Quote from: XiaoMigros on April 10, 2024, 05:47:50 AMI'm assuming you meant m10 instead of 11? Adjusted all of those
- m5, 9, && 11: Very nitpicky but these markings could be more appropriately centered between staves. The text expressions can also start slightly before the notes
Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2024, 07:37:32 PM- You could just use one slur going over the phrase in m. 2-3 starting with the grace notes, if you want. Putting the initial slur under the grace notes makes it a bit harder to count the ledger lines. On a somewhat similar note, I'd suggest putting the slur in m. 11-12 over the melody instead of under to correctly capture the descending contour.Good advice, especially about the contour. I couldn't pin down why that looked strange before. I always thought that grace notes were supposed to have their own slur separate from the phrasing slur, but it definitely looks better with just one.
Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2024, 07:37:32 PM- m. 6 beat 3 sounds rolledYou right
- The chord in the LH of m. 7 beat 1 sounds like C-Fn-G ascending
- m. 9 LH beats 2-2.5 sound like F#-G
Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2024, 07:37:32 PM- How about sustaining the LH D through the rest of m. 14 instead of a rest?Sure, looks good to me
Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2024, 07:37:32 PM- m. 16 beat 2 LH C sounds an octave upSounds pretty similar in bassiness to the C2's on beats 1 of m. 11,12,15,22 to me. And also sounds deeper than the C3 on m.7 b.1
Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2024, 07:37:32 PM- Thoughts about including the low bass F on beat 4 of m. 18 instead of the D? Or you think that's too much of a jump without much payoff? (Sneaky composers passing this off as a piano solo...)I did consider using the middle F, but the jump between m.20 and m.21 is actually even bigger so I guess the low F is fine lol
Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2024, 07:37:32 PM- m. 21 RH beat 2.5 - not sure I hear the upper octave G prominently?I wasn't sure whether to include it or not. I kept thinking I heard it but when I'd listen closer I couldn't make it out anymore, so it might just be my brain filling in the melody. If you didn't hear it either I'll take it out
Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2024, 07:37:32 PM- m. 22 beat 1 - I hear this chord with a G on top rather than the C on bottomThis is another situation like the last one where I'm hearing a ghost G on top. On inspection I hear the low C more clearly than the high G, even though in passing I keep thinking I hear a faint G on top
Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2024, 07:37:32 PM- In the last measure, you could combine the half rests and put it and the quarter rest at normal mid-staff height.Yeah that looks better
Quote from: Bloop on May 21, 2022, 05:39:54 AM-m32: Maybe you could add a courtesy accidental to the An in the R.H. here, as it could be accidentally mistaken for an A# (you also added one in m42 it seems)Yeah that's a good spot for one, added it
Quote from: Bloop on May 21, 2022, 05:39:54 AM-m37-38: I think I hear a C# on beat 1.5 of these two bars in the L.H., but I'm not 100% sure.It's definitely a bit difficult to pick apart from the F#M vocal chords in m37. That said, including both notes together on beat 1.5 sounds too rich, and I like the sound of an F# better than a C# because it creates a stronger separation from the C# on beat 4.5 of the measure before and avoids carrying over the C#M sound. I can hear an F# much more clearly in m28 though, so I'm more convinced that's what's really played.
Quote from: Bloop on May 21, 2022, 05:39:54 AM-m66: Maybe instead of tying the R.H. note to that 8th note, you could just change it to an 8th rest, so it doesn't look like there's a connection between that note and the next line.Oh yeah, I think that's a good idea! Gets rid of that super tall stem too
Quote from: Bloop on May 21, 2022, 05:39:54 AM-m67: I don't hear the high Eb on beat 2.5 of the R.H., I'm pretty sure that's just an overtone.I still hear it really clearly, at about the same volume as the E from m66 in fact. It's clear enough that in my ears it overpowers what would be the fundamental lower octave if it were an overtone, and I don't think that's characteristic of piano timbre is it? There aren't really any comparable overtones in the adjacent notes either, so I'm convinced the higher octave is well-defined enough that it must've been played intentionally, and I've still left it in.
Quote from: Static on May 11, 2022, 06:59:57 PMm34 RH beat 3.5: I meant an E in the RH. Although, now that I'm listening again I hear that D in the LH too.Oh right, I totally misread and missed that. Added it
Quote from: Static on May 11, 2022, 06:59:57 PMI was hearing those extra notes in the piano part specifically (along with that E in m34). It might not hurt to transcribe those parts as they were performed, even if it is a bit more awkward to play (I think this was a live recording, wasn't it? maybe not, idk).m44 RH beat 3.75: I think I can make out an F# in m44 but I can't hear anything resembling a C# and it would be difficult to play anyway, so I added just an F#.
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