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#1
Ah, controversy! As far as I can tell, the name of the game gives as much information about the song as its title, and the absence of such a landmark can lead to confusion aplenty among anyone who isn't as intimately familiar with game soundtracks as those elites who run sites such as this one - I myself failed to recognize "The Roost" and "Together, We Ride". Any casual gamer coming to this site (which is more and more likely with the Wii and all that) stands a fair chance at being confused by simple names, and you can just feel the troublesome sort of atmosphere that settles down around you when you realize you have to click on a dozen links individually to have a fair chance at figuring out what's around you (and also that sounds like it would be harder to manage from an administrative standpoint too). THEREFORE, I stand by my request, and also because I've been given no reason not to. Mr. Shadoninja my have a good reason for responding, to an innocent request, with the cold hard words I refuse, but he had better have it, and give it, and there's probably no way we'll get this settled by next update.

Continuing on anyway, so I have something to do with what I have:

Your list, Mr. Trombonist! All the songs are prefaced by the series they belong to, as they are in the most official source we've got (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/index.html), and which I have adopted for the other games too.

Hyrule Castle -> The Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Castle
Saffron City -> Pokémon: Saffron City
Bramble Blast -> Donkey Kong Country: Bramble Blast
Dialga/Palkia Battle at Spear Pillar! -> Pokémon: Dialga/Palkia Battle at Spear Pillar!
Fire Emblem Theme -> Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem Theme (I know, redundant, but offiiicial soundtracks are laa-w)
Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.) -> Super Mario Bros.: Ground Theme
King Dedede's Theme -> Kirby: King Dedede's Theme
Main Theme -> Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Main Theme
Ocarina Medley -> The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Medley
Subspace Emissary - Overworld -> Subspace Emissary: Overworld
The Legend of Zelda Dark World -> The Legend of Zelda: Dark World
The Roost (Two Pianos) -> Animal Crossing: The Roost (Two Pianos)
Big Blue -> F-Zero: Big Blue
Brinstar -> Metroid: Brinstar
Corneria -> Star Fox: Corneria
Dreamland -> Kirby: Dreamland
Fever -> Dr. Mario: Fever
Fire Emblem Theme -> Fire Emblem: Fire Emblem Theme (Again, but they're different, I checked)
Flatzone -> Game & Watch: Flatzone
Fountain of Dreams -> Kirby: Fountain of Dreams
Hyrule Temple -> The Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Temple
Onett -> Mother: Onett
Opening -> Super Smash Bros. Melee: Opening
Together, We Ride! (Two Pianos) -> Fire Emblem: Together, We Ride! (Two Pianos)

I very much hope I have ruined no one's day.
#2
To restate, more specifically: Anyone with the power to do so, please rename all of the songs listed hereafter so that the game name is included in parenthesis with the words "Originally From:" after the song title, or provide a reasonable reason otherwise: Hyrule Castle is from The Legend of Zelda (the original NES game, I mean), Saffron City is from Pokemon (obvs.), Bramble Blast is from Donkey Kong Country 2 (Is it bad that I know all these off the top of my head?), the Shade Man Alt Theme is from Ghosts n' Goblins (look under the Mega Man page), Dialga/Palkia Battle... is from Pokemon, again, Final Destination is original to Brawl and doesn't need explained, the Fire Emblem Theme likewise unless redundancy is considered absolutely necessary, someone else actually had the sense to label the Ground Theme (thank you Nana1Popo2), King Dedede's Theme is from Kirby's Dream Land, Main Theme should be labeled "Super Smash Bros. Brawl Main Theme", Ocarina Medley should be labeled as from Ocarina of Time just in case, "The Legend of Zelda Dark World" should be relabeled "Dark World Overworld (Originally From: A Link to the Past), "The Roost (Two Pianos)" should be indicated as coming from Animal Crossing: Wild World (and we should really figure out whether we're going to say "Two Pianos" or "Duet" (I lean towards "Duet"; much fancier)), and I'm fresh out because the Melee songs don't have a website (unless someone wants to go through the old Japanese-only website here (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/flash/)) and all I can give from here one series names that everyone knows because I'm too lazy to check every individual game in the series for that particular theme. People looking to burn some time: here is your chance. Or you could just know this stuff. (Are there people nerdier more game-knowledge-intensive than I am? Hard to imagine.)
#3
Although technically we have correct titles all over the place over in the Super Smash Bros. section, I think the songs on the page should consistently be labeled with at least the series name they belong to like they are everywhere else they list the Smash Bros. soundtrack (although we have different people listing game name/series name/franchise name). Although this is already implemented in such entries as "The Legend of Zelda Dark World" (specifically from A Link to the Past), we still have stuff labeled "Bramble Blast" which is not necessarily evocative of Donkey Kong Country (2) to the non-nerd, and I'm too scared to click on anything labeled simply "Main Theme" (from Zelda? from Mario? from Brawl itself?). We could also add a note to cameo songs such as the MM7 Alt Shade Man Theme (which is really the Ghosts n' Goblins (a completely different franchise) theme in disguise (which is a really nerdy thing to know), and one of the best available sheets of it too): although to be honest this is the only "both valid in-game music and also a remix of something completely different" song I can think of outside of the Smash Bros. page. Who's with me? And who's against me?
#4
Feedback / Re: Remixes/Game Series Pages
June 02, 2012, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on June 02, 2012, 09:41:17 PMUnless it states it in the soundtrack title, we should not give these songs any extra label.

"If an Official Soundtrack Exists, Track Names are law"

Well, the list on the Brawl website page from back when they were still teasing us with soundtrack titles (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/index.html) uses "Game Title: Song" format for its titles, which is probably the most sensible choice. The songs are definitely never labeled without at least the franchise they come from. My concern is that people might not be able to find the song they want under the franchise title and stop looking.
#5
Feedback / Remixes/Game Series Pages
June 02, 2012, 09:00:31 PM
Well, while the music the music listed under "Shade Man Stage (Alt)" certainly is an alternate theme song for Shade Man's stage (for the interested, you hold down B while pressing Y to select it) it's also a remix of the extremely popular theme of the old also-Capcom game Ghosts n Goblins - http://www.ninsheetm.us/sheets/MegaMan/MegaMan7/ShadeManStageAlt.mid and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i9l5_1MmB4. I feel like there should some sort of the label to that effect, especially as the sheets provided there are probably the best on the Internet for that particular theme, that I can find, anyway. Also the same thing with the remixes for the Super Smash Bros. games and the series they belong to, and again especially those we have no other versions of and could be easily missed. I know I passed up the Shade Man stage music a couple of times. The only thing I can thing of would be a link on the page of the particular series, or maybe just having a separate category for "SSB Remixes" under each series. Any ideas?