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tl;dr:  I'm voting for Link because his decision to vote Waluigi comes off as opportunistic and your defense of that vote comes off as trying to throw every defense he could think of after the fact rather than explaining why he voted when he did.  The defense is also at times contradictory to his actions and his own defenses.

If my suspicions were what gave you the "solid reason to vote for Waluigi" you're talking about, you would have voted for him here.  Your response to this is that you were trying to avoid rushing him.  That'd be fine, except the fact that you voted for him here.  Waluigi hadn't even had the chance to defend himself from the lynch.  Only four people in the game had even posted since the start of the day, one of which was you, and one of which hadn't even seen the reasons I posted.  All that happened was Fox voting for Waluigi, which is why I think your vote for him was a response to the growing bandwagon.

When I say that you "throw every defense you could think of after the fact rather then explaining why you voted when you did," this is what I mean:

I think that I am surprised that you do not understand that it is a partial joke.

I'm not sure if you're using this as a defense of your vote or what you mean by it, so correct me if I'm misinterpreting this one.

Also, I would have voted for you even if nobody else had. I merely did not want to rush with my vote, since this would give the wolves a chance to hide in the vote rushes.

I've already explained why I think this is untrue.  Putting the third vote on someone less than six hours into day 1 without giving them a chance to defend themselves is absolutely rushing them.

I wanted more discussion before I voted; we need to take advantage of the time given during the day phase. Hasty votes aren't always good.

There was no discussion after I voted, only one Fox voting and giving no new reasoning.

due to my schedule, it was convenient to vote at a certain time

Not true.  You had time to post after you read the accusation.  It was a fairly long post, too.

Saying that you didn't want to rush and that it's partially a joke is pretty contradictory.  If the vote's a joke, there's no need to worry about rushing him with it.  If you wanted more discussion on the Waluigi lynch, you didn't wait for it or make any move to start it. 

I'm not really buying your defense, Link!

You say you were waiting for more discussion on the issue.  I'm not sure what discussion you were looking for.  If my suspicion convinced you, why didn't you vote when you posted 20 minutes afterward?  If Fox voting convinced you, how?

Saying that you were trying to avoid a vote rush is just false.  You were the third vote on a weak lynch in less than three hours after I posted, even before Waluigi had a chance to defend himself.

Link, maybe I missed it in one of your posts, but can you explain why you voted for Waluigi when you did?  I'm more interested in the timing of the vote.  Why did you not vote in the first post but decide to vote after Fox did?

Bowser/Yoshi, what do you think of Link and I in terms of suspicion?

I'm in the Tinychat, but I don't know how well (if at all) pinging works, so I might not respond immediately.

oh wait before I go

the reason I think fox might be inexperienced and bandwagoning is because he's using the very simple mindset of "If Waluigi isn't a wolf, Falcon must be because Falcon accused him".  If the accusation was strong enough for Fox to have voted for it at one point or another, I shouldn't be lynched for coming up with it.

[I was planning to suggest it myself but decided to wait for others]

I'll vote for Falcon since he made two accusations

Falcon:  2
Rest of humans?:  1

I was trying to stir the pot.

I was planning to suggest it myself but decided to wait for others

I was going to suggest Waluigi before you because it IS day 1. But I figured that you wouldn't find my "preferences" to be suitable lynching reasons, even for day 1

This is why I had to stir the pot (or this mindset, at least).  Day 1 had begun, and the first response to it was something along the lines of "lol we have nothing to go on".  And apparently that was just because people had been holding back all their ideas for some reason?  We have very little leeway with regards to lynching wolves.  Half our lynches have to be right.  I wasn't okay with starting Day 1 off how it would have inevitably gone if I had stayed silent:  the thread is inactive for a day and a half, and then we end up lynching an inactive for being an inactive with 30 minutes left in the phase, and we're all incredibly shocked when it's a WRONG lynch.

I looked through the thread a few times, pretty thoroughly to see if there was a person I could vote for.  I was originally going to go with the Link vote, but I decided to look a little harder and came up with the Waluigi one.  So I posted both because I wanted to see the reactions to both.  If you want to challenge me on the strength of my accusations, look through Night 1 and see if you can find anything stronger than what I came up with.

Link, why did you decide to vote Waluigi when you did?  For Fox, it might just be a bandwagon born out of inexperience maybe, but nothing changed about the accusation after the minute I posted it.  You had the chance to vote for Waluigi, and said you were suspicious about Waluigi too, but waited until after someone else did.  It'd make sense for either you and he to be wolf partners and you gauging the inevitability of his lynch poorly or for you to be a wolf and Waluigi to be a human and you waiting until others voted so you wouldn't be called out for bandwagoning alone.

I went to Fox's chat and nobody was there.

Welp, I'm leaving the house now, so looks like I'll be signing off.  I expect to be back in about 4 to 5 hours, but I really can't say for sure. 

[Waluigi]

Waluigi because, even if the "Imma gonna win" post was made in jest, I'm not sure it was totally innocuous.  Humans would be more likely to say "we" because we're on a team, while wolves play more of an individual game. 

Even Verm, nominated for best wolf in the NSM Superlatives, has made this mistake.  It's a nearly identical scenario, and Verm was a wolf that game.

It's the best I've got right now, though I'm also curious as to why Link was disappointed that Waluigi wasn't wolfed.  He's been active for Night 1, and he did compliment how you looked in purple.

Can we have an extension because that's less than 48 hours from the update?  Is there a solution to the problem with no chat?

night 1 ended an hour ago?

capt falcon checking in

Waluigi, why do you say "Imma" gonna win rather than "we're" gonna win?

Slow, will the replacements get new accounts or just take over for old accounts?

Slow, what's against the rules regarding speculation of people's true identities?  If I discover that TWG XXXXXX is BDS, and he's acting super paranoid and stuff, and people are lynching him for it, am I allowed to defend him?  If I defend him, is he allowed to confirm/deny my accusation?