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Hi I'm here I've a busy day out today but I'll try catch-up before phase end

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I was going to miss a game but i want the game to fill up

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There's probably a voting strategy players can do to find out who the Grink is

Something like vote the player below you and see who dies. It may be better to allow the Grink to choose how many votes they want to use from the vote pool at any point of the phase rather than the start

Or what may even be better is allow them to give votes from the vote pool to any player, including themselves at any point of the phase. That would eliminate any trickery and also force humans to have to try come to a consensus on votes as to not have the Grinks votes overwhelm. Sounds strong but think it balances the Grink not even having a wolfing

Or if you don't like that maybe make it so the Grink can't be lynched in a KitB 

Very nice post game and analysis Davy. Thanks for all the work put in.

Great game!

Toby, was your initial plan (SL claiming, CO claiming to them in PMs) a ploy to gain town cred, or was there ulterior wolf motives?

At the time, Waluigi hadn't slipped, so I figured there were way too many places for the wolves to stick their hand in. Such as counterclaiming SL, or even counterclaiming CO to the SL. That's why I wasn't too high on the plan.

Just to gave town cred. Multiple people usually spot the best plan so if I didn't say it someone else probably would have. However it was awkward as I only spotted it late in the phase and in actual fact, I'm not sure if anyone else would have suggested it given it wasn't noticed until late

The thing is if the plan went ahead night 1, wolves couldn't counterclaim without getting one of them killed. But I was able to counterclaim as THC which delayed the alliance forming. I don't think it would have been worth it for the wolves to counterclaim otherwise

I'm just digging a bigger hole for myself aren't I.

IIRC, N1 TZP made two posts. The reason I figured TZP could have made the slip (which I mentioned in my D1 suspicion list as well) is because it seems as if he was preoccupied early game.

TZP has definitely proved himself to be a more than competent wolf in THREE of the revival games at this point (two of which were back to back which puts extra pressure on someone). Again, apologize for poorly wording my earlier comment.

Either one of us could have made the post, TZP only made it as I was initially wanting to avoid going on during my time zone since my zone is more unique than his

It was pre planned and agreed before the phase started. I initially suggested it. I don't think it says anything about how competent either of us are, we just didn't pay attention to detail on the human seer.

It didn't actually matter too much anyway as one of the twg accounts would have been deemed a wolf at some point, so i liked using it to our advantage to provide more chaos and throw the scent off us

I apologize, I didn't mean it that way. I'm saying that Toby is a good TWG player and when I analyze Toby, I analyze him through that lens.

ok now apologise to TZP cause u basically said I'm too competent to make that mistake so it must have been TZP lol

Also BDS a lot of your initial points against me day 3 was that I was wolfy because I was seemingly trying to dig out information from N1P2 or find out the Chosen One

I knew all the info anyway and who the Chosen One was from day 1 - I was just playing like I didn't know stuff and didn't expect anyone to believe I would be so obvious about asking for more info if I was actually a wolf.

This is very surprising to me. The biggest reason I doubted Toby as a wolf is because I thought Toby was too competent of a wolf to allow that slip. I'm guessing TZP made the post?

I suggested mid night 1 that regardless of our seer result to try and be more towny from the get go why not just claim we have a blue result but didn't want to reveal it. I guess neither of us read the point on the human seer that closely and it was TZP that made the post. I guess it was just unexpected that the human seer worked different from the wolf seer.

Otherwise we were going to say that math was green and hope the other seer double check and then see him red.

Also Specs and Oricorio I hope you don't feel disheartened by being lynched knowing now it was pushed heavily by both wolves!

The Oricorio lynch was definitely poor. Not only because of the green seering but I think it would have been much safer to not be greedy and try lynch 2 wolves in 2 days. It would have made sense to try go for someone who couldn't have been Specs parter, to try and guarantee 1 wolf being lynched as much as possible

Also we probably shouldn't overthink things like the Toby slip

You could say that but I also mimicked THC's posts hard and even only went on  Waluigi whenever I saw THC went online on the forum.

I probably should have tried to stick a random slip in that looked like someone else too

But basically it just as easily could have been a fake slip than a real slip.

I did plan to post as Waluigi in topic acting as if I was someone else who didn't realise they were logged in as Waluigi and not their main - but with how sus Waluigi was so fast I didn't bother. I tried to use Waluigi being sus as an advantage where I could

I did have a tactic day 3 to play a bit chaotic and say things that would make people try think surely he wouldn't be acting like this as a wolf - rather than doing things that just read as human

It was appearing to backfire a lot

I was also drinking most of friday and severely hungover today so that didn't help lol

That was a fun game

I made plenty of mistakes but I also think I made plenty of great plays

Really really fun gg all and was great having TZP as wolf partner despite him willing to ditch me any second !!

rip humans i guess