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I would say faction games are easier to play than normal setups. Less social deduction

question for all of you nerds

Do you agree that my play was absolutely terrible?

At the start you seemed really engaged but as the game went on it seemed as if you were missing bits and your activity dropped. There were a couple times players directed questions towards you and I'm guessing you didn't see them and didn't respond - it could look as being an avoidant/sus.

And as specs said best advice to anyone really is to try be more proactive than reactive

The aloof wolf shaman is a seer too, right ?

I think the idea is that everyone will know the Aloof accounts are either a wolf seer or a human seer but they don't know which is which. Every day phase they will both say their seer result and try convince humans either of them are the human seer so the humans can believe their result. But also making sure not to reveal their own identity.

It's a way to reveal seer results in a safe way, but you also don't know which is the wolf and which is the human

So instead of like wolves vs town setup it's a unique setup with multiple teams of equal balance usually so like a 3v3v3 for instance

Im in mood for a faction game

I'm honestly still pretty shocked I got lynched when I did. Yeah, I suppose everything I posted could have been a smokescreen and I could've put some more opinions in it.... But besides TZP a bit, no one was really deeply considering the cause and effect long-term ramifications of the lynch choice on the TTT board. I really felt like that was critical to the game, and it was worth discussing. And man, I'm still shocked I got lynch-rushed by HUMANS, also signing THCs death sentence.

Everyone involved... like low key ban-able offense?

LOL

I mean in hindsight me and BDS were just trying to survive, and although the THC could have made it to day 3, they wouldn't make it to day 4. I did call out poet for why she went for Specs but she was human after all.

I think with THC being so unpredictable last game, him being alive although confirmed human felt somewhat untrustworthy still. Yeah sure he's a player not to worry about but he would also have the deciding vote and who knows who he would choose

Sorry Specs you got lynched, on the plus side I thought you were being a really cunning wolf but slipped in that while you wanted to look really good and gather data for town, you actually sat on the fence with it and didnt want to push any direction

TZP, it was a tough call to make and feels like it would have been a coin flip

The thing is for every sus wolf play that A# made, poet had also made a similar human play. It was hard to distinct between the two.

Historically anything A# did would get her lynched easily - not really helping humans, clearly not trying to hunt wolves, not analysing anyone's posts, low effort, making irrational moves, making votes that don't make sense - however we are in an age of TWG where these things are also happening frequently with humans. So we somewhat have to compensate our thinking which I think bit me in the bum a bit here. I think A# did have genuine personal reasons for not being as active so it wasn't necessarily a play style choice as it was a play style circumstance ?

It still doesn't really feel like we had the wool pulled over our eyes as I can't really recall anything that made me think A# was incredibly human - just neutral and Poet did incredibly suspicious things, and TZP had a clear change of tone this game , and some tiny things I thought were odd reflecting off of that. I think only notable for A# is when I claimed wolf and she outright called it a lie - I thought surely a wolf wouldn't do that but maybe I got reverse reverse psychology'd, or maybe it was a clear slip from her to be so confident I was bluffing whereas everyone else bought it - should have just took the reaction at face value.

Nevertheless congrats on the win!

I think we need to just lynch the quieter players early on as they're too difficult to read, or compensate our readings on by late game. I guess we could have went poet/A# day 2, but that forced Specs being lynched day 3, which I guess would have felt like 3 forced lynches - lynching middle day 1, the quieter players day 2, and then forced to block day 3 and just hope a wolf was in there somewhere to get free choice day 4.

Out of all the reactions posts was most easily falsified

I mean, bds is such a good player that I was thinking he could be fooling us all this entire time and I guess it's not such a bad idea to get him out of the question *shrug*


also, poet, I wasn't really that active in the other games. I was pretty quiet and confused at the beginning of nothing special 2 before I sort of got the hang of it, totally failed for just a numbers game, and then — ah, you know the rest


wow I just got ninja'd by the great wall of china text

So you think it's good to lynch good players to get them out the way ?

I'm going to sleep

I would read A# human

And I would vote between TZP and poet

I want to say poet and A# have been too chaotic to actually be wolves so I want to say vote TZP but I would hate to lose to poet for thinking she's acting too sus to actually be a wolf

If I had a vote I'd go TZP but I am concerned because I think poet slipped saying she read A# previous games, but she also did start the game with a bit of a bang trying to be helpful and then seemed to lose interest naturally. She didn't play like that in her last wolf game

I'll be honest Toby I bought it completely. That response was genuine and I was surprised to see you walk it back. I think that it is much more reasonable to be suspicious of the players who called cap on/acted confused by you claiming wolf than on the person who thought it was a live possibility

My opinion would be that a wolves first impression would be to try blend in and buy it. Because obviously they should be the only person who could confirm it was false. Therefore it's a case of trying to hunt whose reaction is least genuine.

You have poet who acted confused, and you with a celebration. Both similar. I think I like poets reaction less

Then A# didn't buy it. As a wolf would she openly admit that? Knowing she's the only player who could confirm that?

I'm leaning to A# being human for that, and honestly with the TZP to BDS vote switching I feel it's too chaotic to be a wolf.

Poet I thought was being a chaotic human too but I they've ignored responding to quite a few points throughout the topic, proposed they were going to do a suspicion list twice, have claimed no be very busy in their personal life, and yet said they went and read some of A#'s previous games ? I don't buy it.

It's hard because poet and A# have like newish playstyles while also lacking much effort in their play so reading either of them takes compensation to try not jump the gun on their suspicious plays. Neither have wolf hunted much this game and just posted little bits here and there whereas TZP I would expect to wolf hunt regardless of alignment. We should have eliminated poet/A# while we had the chance! (My bad?)

TZP has not been as sus but I hold him to a higher standard. A# and poet are much susser than TZP but both of them can't be wolves which proves the need to compensate for different playstyles lol.

Poet could be maths partner but she did lynch Specs so I don't think she'd be Specs

TZP could be specs or math partner

A# could be either specs or math

A# how did you go from human leaning BDS and voting TZP, to then being convinced by TZP to vote BDS

If I was a wolf I lost anyway

I thought tzp not seeming sceptical at all was sus

A#. This may be a rookie move, but her lack of activity is extremely high, even compared to the last round. This seems strange since when I looked through the past games, she was incredibly into the game and spoke a ton. I understand that she isn't as active as before, but her posts aren't collaborating very much. You would expect somebody like that would try to find things people haven't thought about, or added on to the subject.

I'm not as sure of this but I may choose Toby. I find it strange that they are constantly trying to attack Specs even when it is apparent that Specs is actively helping by listing all the possible outcomes.

Part of me just does not believe Poet read previous games of A# and thinks this is a lie to seem like she's being more helpful to town

Like you said you were gonna do a suspicion list twice and didn't and i thought that was because you had no time