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I have an interesting note.

Perhaps I'm overthinking things and this isnt the right direction, you all tell me.

I PM BDS to soft claim, especially after slight conversation begins to arise about N1 actions like claiming SL, etc...
We decide to wait until something happens (thus TWG Waluigi came forward and davy responded)

I claim SL publicly.

I get a PM from Specs suggesting that i ask for the CO to privately claim to me, to which i can work with them to prove their access to the alt account. Then if i talk publicly after that, is up to me.
I think its a fair idea, and was beginning to think the same way anyway.

I post suggesting just this, but without full detail of the plan using the CO to prove the TWG account.

Then Toby jumps on board with believing me, once almost everyone said they werent SL, only to say the same thing (which hadnt been mentioned publicly yet?), in regards to finding the alt account.
Specs agrees, now we are boarding the train that is this idea.


The first two PM's i get to claim roles are Toby, claiming human, and Specs, claiming green. Specs, specifically saying in PM "i'll bite on Toby's plan." While i thought, wasnt this along the lines of your plan to me before i posted?... albeit, i dont think i needed the rest of the town to claim to me, i just need CO, but thats different.

My question is unless they had been PM'ing, how did they just nearly have the same plan and each post about it with the confidence that they would so easily believe me?

Theres a lot of layers to TWG, i get it, but big brain plays are out of my realm haha. Targeting a returning player like THC seems legit. Targeting a seer on BDS as a returning player sounds very plausible. ( i don't want to get in a conversation of who has "more" game experience, I'm just observing)

What can we make from this? Unless coincidental and I'm gearing caught up in it? (Also, yes its a great plan that anyone could have thought of, but the fact that no one else did before them two and the coincidence that they messaged first is interesting. Thats what im looking at)

It was me who suggested the CO claim though so that they can find the TWG seer account that is the human seer?

Something we could consider is the sacrificial lamb claiming and then asking the chosen one to claim to them. The sacrificial lamb could then tell us if either twg Luigi or twg waluigi are the human seer without the risk of revealing the chosen one.

Because the sacraficial lamb can still use their power even when dead Im not seeing much of a down side to this. It just means they're guaranteed to be wolfed next but someone has to be wolfed, and in exchange we have an untouchable human seer for the rest of the game.

So I guess that's what Specs means by my plan since I suggested it? And then when everyone had confirmed they weren't the Sacrificial lamb (not nearly everyone, it was everyone), I suggested we all PM you our roles to help you trust the Chosen One quicker and to rule out counter claims. The only way the plan fails is if the sacrificial lamb was THC, but this can be verified so it would ensure you die at the next lynch. which isn't worth the gambit for wolves i dont think

Also I'd advise not revealing who claimed what, even if human

I just don't see the manti rule having applied to BDS or be likely to apply to BDS over other veterans in this game such as TZP or myself

And a lot of the newer players also showed to have good grip on the game that I wouldnt say the gap is too far apart between anyone

This is a weird discussion (potentially a distraction), but I'm curious as well.

Nothing Special: Wolfed N1
Numbers Game: Hosted
Assassins Gambit: Survived late into the game.
Lantern Keeper: Wolfed N2
TTT: Survived late into the game.

So kinda I guess?

We have money: Wolfed N6
CXII: survives to end game as human
Hitler CXI: is a wolf
CX: is a wolf
CIX Shattered: idk but isnt wolfed night 1 and claims special when nearly lynched on day apparently

Am I missing something I've only seen you wolfed night 1 once in the last 10 games?

This is reading more as a misunderstanding than a wolf tell at this point

Why would you be wolfed first over anyone else? Thats not been a precedent set in any of the previous games

I just think it's odd to be publicly assuming the wolves seered you based on nothing

Unless you think you slipped somewhere but then I don't see why you keep drawing attention to the fact you must have been seered since not wolfed

I just asked a question and the only discussion at moment is on who should be revived which can be discussed night 2.

Why

If I'm not the miller, it's incredibly likely that I was seered.

Based on what?

Are you just baselessly throwing out 'I must have been seered' to separate yourself from the wolves?

I don't get why you keep thinking the wolves seered you?

I think everyone has posted since n1p2 claimed sacrificial lamb so unless THC was the lamb which I doubt then we have our lamb.

I suggest everyone pm n1p2 if their role just to help them find the Chosen One and they can see if anyone is going to counter claim

If Waluigi wolf slipped it's entirely likely that the wolf themselves caught the slip immediately. The roles did get posted with the phase update so could have been spotted on the same page

I'm not the sacrificial lamb (obviously lol)

Once everyone has confirmed they aren't the SL then the Chosen One should came to n1p2 and reveal which twg account is the aloof seer

LOL

Well I guess we don't need anyone to claim to find out the human aloof seer?

But bit odd to claim a blue seering ? Surely claim a red and stir the pot day 1

Either waluigi is meme ing or that's THC's Death post waaa lol

What do you mean? It only asks the sacraficial lamb to claim which would lead to us finding the chosen one. If there is a chosen one counter claim then we find a wolf in exchange for our seer.

If the sacraficial lamb is counter claimed we lose a confirmed human in exchange for a wolf

If both are counter claimed we literally win the game because we are able to lynch 2 wolves in 4 lynches

Yeah not at all of a difference really. There is the argument they have a unique role so can claim it and if uncounterclaimed they are confirmed human and that's it

But in terms of ability usage it doesn't matter if they're dead