Quote from: SpecsFlyer17 on June 30, 2024, 12:19:36 PMMy issue with this: the private message recipient will have the opportunity to mess with things. My suggestion is both TZP and I message 2 people their colors. That way we have two people verifying the results.If the PM recipient messes with things then that will basically guarantee out them as a wolf. Messaging 2 people instead of 1 would be fine, but to propose an alternative:
What do you all think?
1. You and TZP claim to someone.
2. That person confirms receiving both PMs.
3. You and TZP claim your color publicly.
4. Person confirms that it matches what you sent them.
These steps could also work with 2 people instead of 1.
Quote from: SpecsFlyer17 on June 30, 2024, 12:32:59 PMHere is what I suggest. Both TZP and I PM two players (BDS and Xiao?) and reveal our colors. They can independently report back. If the TZP and my colors mismatch, we know we have shenanigans. I left Oricorio out of this just because he has the positive hit on him, but if anyone objects to the choice of BDS and Xiao, let us know.That's a fine enough plan as long as you and TZP both agree on what you're doing.
I don't necessarily think knowing the colors helps the humans or wolves a whole lot at this point, but I think this is a good plan to mostly confirm that TZP and I are legit seers.
I'll wait to hear back from TZP before I send anything.
Quote from: SpecsFlyer17 on June 30, 2024, 02:58:10 PMIn my defense, the N2 seer activation was a later revision to the game rules. I agree that it's not the best look, but it was an oversight on my end.Fair enough. Not really something I can prove or disprove either way, more of an interesting discrepancy I noticed after you first claimed to me.
Quote from: SpecsFlyer17 on June 30, 2024, 03:20:05 PMAs far as Xiao being a lynch candidate:I didn't quite think of that before but I like the observation (especially considering Xiao was one of my fake suggestions for targets to TZP).
It wouldn't surprise me if town!Xiao was burned or chilled N2, for similar reasons to why I think THC was killed N1; the strong consensus seemed to be that Xiao was town aligned, probably the most so of anyone. This would make him less likely to be lynched D2, and thus I could see him being targeted on N1 by wolves to build their vote manipulation power. It would not have shocked me if Xiao was killed N2 for that reason.
Quote from: Oricorio on June 30, 2024, 05:47:49 PMAlthough the wolves aren't a team (though I believe there is at least a decent chance they might have found each other by now and I wouldn't take that possibility for granted), the fact that they can work together means they're still incentivized to push a lynch on town. Ultimately, that means it's likely 40% of the players here (50% of the other living players from a town perspective) are still likely pushing a vote that they think will be bad for town, so keep that in mind before pushing something as "consensus".Assuming the wolves found each other by the start of Day 2 and not the night prior, they know who each other targeted and they probably know who they need to lynch today to win. If they found each other Night 2 then they probably coordinated their targets to people who were least likely to be lynched anyway.
I personally don't think the wolves have found each other yet, but it's something to keep in mind in case they have.
Quote from: Oricorio on June 30, 2024, 06:02:18 PMCan town still win after two mislynches in a row? The answer is yes, but only if wolves cross marked each other N2 or if we mislynch a marked townie, the other person marked is a wolf, and the remaining wolf gets marked N3. Otherwise, if we mislynch today you better pray N1P2 is a wolf.In a game like this I think it's best to assume we need to lynch a wolf today.