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#1
The Werewolf Game / TWG CXVI Postgame
September 29, 2023, 01:09:18 PM
Town Wins!

A# Minor (Normal Townie, axed Day 1)
BlackDragonSlayer (Red Assassin, fission mailed Night 2)
ThatHiddenCharacter (Red Ward, stabbed Night 2)
XiaoMigros (Red Cold Target, stabbed Night 1)
TheZeldaPianist275 (Blue Ward, axed Day 2)
SpecsFlyer17 (Blue Assassin, fission mailed Day 2)
The Musical Poet (Blue Hot Target, survived to the win)
threalmathguy (Normal Townie, stabbed Night 1)
davy (Blue Cold Target, axed Day 0)
Toby (Red Hot Target, stabbed Night 2)


The "Hot Sheet" for this game is now available to view.
The Assassins may reveal their private communications with me at their own discretion.




So how'd you like the setup?

It worked out to be balanced in theory, and it felt like every side fought hard for the win; it was just a matter of who edged out who in the end. Sure there was a bit of prisoner's dilemma on that last Night, which is always an unfortunate position to be in, but given the amount of strategizing and information trade that information every move, it's definitely an improvement on most previous ideas within the "Royal Setup" concept – that is, where the Wolf-like faction(s) have to hunt for hidden information that the Human-like faction has. A lot of previous such setups have bad breaking strategies, and the original "Assassin in the Palace" optimal play is literally to just shut up axe someone randomly every Day to avoid leaking info – which, like, might as well shoot craps at that point!

Still, I think there are some weird incentives it could do without. A change I've been thinking of is to have Color-only flips, but have the Assassins themselves learn the full identity of whoever they kill. That way, the Human/Town team can focus more on Assassin-hunting and have the Wards act as more of a bonus, without locking the Assassins out of the loop wrt. what they actually need to do to win.
#2
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on September 29, 2023, 11:56:35 AMKai, can we end the phase early since nothing is going to happen and all remaining players are on the same page?
Quite.



TheZeldaPianist275, the Blue Assassin's Ward, commits assisted Reichenbach Falls.

SpecsFlyer, the Blue Assassin, curses his fate as he falls to his family-friendly death.


TWG CXVI has ended in a Town victory!

BTS info to come.
#3
Toby has died. They were the Red Assassin's Hot Target, aligned with the Town.

ThatHiddenCharacter has died. They were the Red Assassin's Ward, aligned with the Town.

BlackDragonSlayer has failed his mission, and thus absconds with shame. He was the Red Assassin.

Living Players


TheZeldaPianist
SpecsFlyer17
The Musical Poet

It is now Day 2. Day 2 will end 11:59PM, 30 September 2023, US Central.
#4
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on September 28, 2023, 09:29:29 PMIf I were on my "normal" sleep schedule it'd be great. Unfortunately insomnia and other health issues (most recently it's been acid reflux and abdominal gas/bloating brought on by accidentally ingesting too much high-fiber food) always have a way of disrupting my sleep schedule at the most inconvenient times.

kai u BETTER update right on the hour :P
gotchu fam  8)
#5
Quote from: davy on September 27, 2023, 10:57:43 PMTWC Post

Kai, Insta's are assumed to be part of the game unless stated otherwise as they are part of the procedure section of the basic guide and official rules. As a host, you are allowed to change that for your game, but this should have been stated clearly during sign-ups. Now that it has been cleared up here it's fine, but please keep this in mind the next time you host a game.
Sorry, it's been a while. It won't happen again.
#6
A# Minor – (4) – SpecsFlyer17, A# Minor, BlackDragonSlayer, TheZeldaPianist
TheZeldaPianist – (3) – Toby, The Musical Poet,  ThatHiddenCharacter



A# Minor has died. They were a Normal Townie.

Living Players

BlackDragonSlayer
ThatHiddenCharacter
TheZeldaPianist275
SpecsFlyer17
The Musical Poet
Toby

It is now Night 2. Night 2 will end on Thursday, 28 September 2023, 11:59PM US Central.
#7
A# Minor – (3) – SpecsFlyer17, A# Minor, BlackDragonSlayer
TheZeldaPianist – (2) – Toby, The Musical Poet
Toby – (1) – ThatHiddenCharacter
SpecsFlyer17 – (1) – TheZeldaPianist
#8
Quote from: Toby on September 27, 2023, 01:54:22 PMKai said in PM there instas aren't on this game
Confirming.
#9
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on September 26, 2023, 06:05:45 AMKai, in case you didn't see this ^^^

Yes, an Assassin who is killed during the night still has their own kill go though.
#10
Night 1 has concluded.

XiaoMigros has died. They were the Red Assassin's Cold Target, aligned with the Town.

threalmathguy has died. They were a Normal Townie.

Living Players:


A# Minor
BlackDragonSlayer
ThatHiddenCharacter
TheZeldaPianist275
SpecsFlyer17
The Musical Poet
Toby

It is now Day 1. Day 1 will conclude at
11:59PM US Central, Wednesday, 27 September 2023.
#11
Speaking of deadlines...here's a countdown.
#12
Quote from: A# Minor on September 24, 2023, 10:50:06 PM... didn't the phase end 50 minutes ago?
I think there was some DST confusion involved, maybe? I don't think it's a big problem anyhow.

Quote from: davy on September 24, 2023, 10:53:14 PMDeathpost:

TZP removed his vote for me. I should not have been insta'd yet.

That being said: screw all y'all for insta'ing me in my sleep again when we had a 72 hour day
For the record, there was no insta active, just a Day 0 extension condition. And even if TZP's vote wasn't there, you still would've died because that was, in fact, the full 72hr deadline.
#13
VOTECOUNT 0.2

(no longer tracking vote history b/c its confusing when you have to use the bbcode editor like I do)

davy – (6) – XiaoMigros, BlackDragonSlayer, TheZeldaPianist275, threalmathguy, ThatHiddenCharacter, A# Minor
threalmathguy – (1) – Toby
XiaoMigros – (1) – davy

davy was axed Day 0. He was the Blue Assassin's Cold Target, aligned with the Town.

Night 1 is now active and will conclude Monday, 25 September 2023, 11:59PM US Central.

#14
I'm here earlier, though again, not exactly on time.

Just let me verify real quick...
#15
Quote from: davy on September 24, 2023, 03:59:58 AMI see. I think it is a good idea to have some means of preventing these kind of issues. The only problem I see is that a player could knowingly or unknowingly take advantage of this system by forgetting to turn their discord mode to visible, so I'd rather say we ban online stalking than to put the responsibility of there being no online stalking on the person that is stalked.
ahh yeah that's probably best. OOG Tags probably sufficient for the purpose then. sorry i'm pretty zonked