Submission Information:
Series: Donkey Kong
Game: Donkey Kong
Console: ARCADE
Title: Music from Donkey Kong
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: LeviR.star (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5007)
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For most of the soundtrack: Donkey Kong (Arcade) - Zophar's Domain (https://www.zophar.net/music/arcade/donkey-kong)
For the unused themes: Donkey Kong (Arcade) - The Cutting Room Floor (https://tcrf.net/Donkey_Kong_(Arcade))
It's about time I finished this. This compilation should replace all of the on-site ones, of which almost all are based around the [NES] arrangements, despite the fact that this game is listed as [ARCADE].
Some minor notes some had disputes over:
- m. 5, 6 & 7, being separate songs, were bound to be spaced out along the line, but it was debated whether or not it was worth it to do so. Besides, I don't know how to
- Miss's tempo was very hard to measure, and I'm half convinced it's supposed to change right at the pickup. I need verification
- also on Miss: the LH is an octave up, but should that be assumed by the RH's 8va marking, and the specially arranged stems that I added in? I wasn't sure if this clef was appropriate for piano:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/264591162315112448/412798557377265665/unknown.png
- last thing: this soundtrack, being very dynamic-neutral, seemed appropriate to have everything deemed as mf, but is just once at the beginning good? I mean, that's a lot of mfs to add in. Now go down and find the last quote on the page
Fun fact: the unused themes were actually discovered very recently by TCRF, so I guess it's good we have them included now.
Just so I'm getting this straight. This arrangement will replace all the Donkey Kong sheets currently?
Quote from: LeviR.star on February 12, 2018, 06:50:38 PMThis compilation should replace all of the on-site ones, which are all based around the [NES] arrangements, despite the fact that this game is listed as [ARCADE].
Oooooorrrrr just change the system for the ones on site to [NES]. Bam, problem solved.
Quote from: Yug_Guy on February 12, 2018, 07:29:56 PMOooooorrrrr just change the system for the ones on site to [NES]. Bam, problem solved.
I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean, Yug. Are you aware that the arcade and NES versions are not identical, or am I confused?
Quote from: Sebastian on February 12, 2018, 07:27:33 PMThis arrangement will replace all the Donkey Kong sheets currently?
If you guys approve, yes.
Now go click on the giant blue "P"
Quote from: LeviR.star on February 12, 2018, 07:48:18 PMI'm not quite sure I understand what you mean, Yug. Are you aware that the arcade and NES versions are not identical, or am I confused?
Whoops, excuse me. Forgot one crucial part:
Quote from: Yug_Guy on February 12, 2018, 07:29:56 PMOooooorrrrr just change the system for the ones on site to [NES]. Then add yours under [ARCADE]. Bam, problem solved.
Quote from: Yug_Guy on February 12, 2018, 07:51:48 PMWhoops, excuse me. Forgot one crucial part:
Quote from: Yug_Guy on February 12, 2018, 07:29:56 PMOooooorrrrr just change the system for the ones on site to [NES]. Then add yours under [ARCADE]. Bam, problem solved.
I suppose that would work, as long as the updaters are cool with it.
These sheets were recently edited by me and Latios.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ltr01glgb37bb0t/Screenshot%202018-02-12%2022.51.16.png?dl=1)
I don't think they need to be replaced. Just because you have them all in a compilation doesn't mean we need to delete these. Personally, I like having them individually like this so people can get the specific song they want, and they may not think we have the song they're looking for if they are all clumped together in a compilation. Also, people may not think to look under arcade or anywhere else if they are looking for the ones already on the site after we delete them.
And, most of all, the ones on site aren't replacement worthy.
Hang on - the ones we're hosting on site and these are transposed versions of each other. What accounts for the discrepancy - is it the platform of the game?
Quote from: Latios212 on February 12, 2018, 08:02:50 PMHang on - the ones we're hosting on site and these are transposed versions of each other. What accounts for the discrepancy - is it the platform of the game?
Our current Game Start comes from the arcade version. The other three come from the NES version. There was a discrepancy to begin with.
I don't know why, but yes, the NES versions are transposed from the originals.
EDIT: My mistake; the old Game Start was in the arcade key.
I'm in no position to bump this sheet, considering I've got to update my other one soon, but should this be deleted? It seems to have disrupted the nice little system of sheets we had for Donkey Kong already.
Quote from: LeviR.starNow go open the spoiler tag
If the arcade versions of the pieces are different from the NES versions, they can exist in a separate game entry. The onsite sheets need to be separated according to this as well.
Spoiler
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/264591162315112448/424785655965548544/unknown.png
Now go read the text in Courier font
I dunno, guys. Your call; maybe I'm wrong.
I approve
Reminder that this still exists
Let me here you say B
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P (https://www.ricesigns.com/real_pictures/bump_sign_W8-1_large.jpg)
Scroll up on page 1 until you see the purple font
I am so done.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on May 04, 2018, 03:01:29 PMI'll check this out tomorrow.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a617e702e5c1cb919733023586976155/tenor.gif)
I'll check this one tomorrow.
Feedback:
- M. 19: The last two notes should both be eighth notes.
- M. 20: I'd do C# instead of Db.
- M. 39 (LH): A courtesy accidental on the C would be great.
- M. 39 (RH): A courtesy accidental on the F would be great.
- The second-page title is slightly off alignment. Re-align that.
- Since these are all individual songs, they all need dynamics.
Nice work. That's all from me.
Thanks for the feedback, Seb; I have fixed everything --
Quote from: Sebastian on May 08, 2018, 10:15:26 AM- Since these are all individual songs, they all need dynamics.
-- except this is the only one I feel I need to disagree with. There are 16 different songs in this compilation, and I feel that - even with the microcontroller of this game cabinet having no dynamic variety - the tone of the songs seem like they're all mf, and I'm not going to kid myself by trying to decide on a different marking for each. That makes 16 mf's, so if I'm going to include that many, why even bother? I'd just leave it up to the performer if it were my choice. Objections?
You make a good point, but since they're individual songs I would go ahead and indicate somewhere that they should all be mf. Maybe a note or something saying that they should all be mf.
Done.
Once more: Is everyone sure what I have written for "Miss" is accurate?
It sounds right, but I will check it out again and slow it down to make certain.
Yeah, I rechecked. Sounds good.
If you're sure, that sounds good to me.
Looks pretty good to me in a cursory pass, but I do have a few things to say about the last two.
- Is there a way we can write "Miss" without a 7/8 measure? It just seems a bit... odd... to sandwich it between two 4/4 measures like that. And it's not like the sixteenths follow a certain larger rhythmic pattern, so I'd have another thought about this one. (I'm tired at the moment and don't have a good answer to this.)
- At this speed, I don't feel like the presence of staccatos would have much of an effect on how a performer would play it. Totally fine if you want to keep them, though.
- Watch your beam positionings. Towards the end of the 16h note run the top stems are very short and the bottom stems are very long.
- "Bonus" is missing a time signature.
Ok, I took another listen, and it turns out I really was off. This is how I believe it should sound, but I'm not sure if it is how it should be written:
Spoiler
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/264591162315112448/451223088399646721/unknown.png
That works, but not my preference. What would you think of one 13/8 measure? Thoughts?
Oof, definitely would not write the last measure like that, the eighth note D seems like a pickup to three strong beats. You could have 5 measures of 3/8 followed by one of 4/4, but I feel like that arbitrarily draws a distinction between parts of the chromatic descent.
Seb, did you mean a long 15/8 measure? I may lean towards that, leaving all the 16th notes in one big blob since there's really not any rhythm to count.
Yes, my bad. 15/8 is what I meant. There is no discernable pattern to the 16ths, so I would definitely recommend the 15/8.
Quote from: LeviR.star on May 29, 2018, 08:22:23 PMSpoiler
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/264591162315112448/451223088399646721/unknown.png
Btw, as Latios said, I definitely would not make the last measure like that. The beats are in the wrong place.
There are two different tempos, and it cannot transition mid-measure. Should I have a standalone 1/8 measure for the pickup note with the time signature hidden?
Quote from: LeviR.star on June 01, 2018, 02:29:48 PMThere are two different tempos, and it cannot transition mid-measure.
Why not?
Well, it's not working for me. I thought it was a given for any Finale user.
Move the tempo marking to the Dynamics category or create one there. Then it will apply to notes mid-measure. Weird, I know.
Also, given the high speed and brevity of this fanfare, the tempo change feels almost negligible, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Files changed up again. Anything else?
Wouldn't putting a rit. and hiding the tempo marking be more natural?
As a side note, "Miss" could be done all in 2/4 if you begin with an eighth rest
@Levi
I like what you posted in Lat's channel/Updater chat. The only change I'd like for that is that the 3/4 be in 4/4 and that the last quarter be made into a half note.
Quote from: Sebastian on June 02, 2018, 08:11:23 AM@Levi
I like what you posted in Lat's channel/Updater chat. The only change I'd like for that is that the 3/4 be in 4/4 and that the last quarter be made into a half note.
Fixed.
Last couple of small things from me before we finish up here:
- In the written direction, it'd be better to refer to these pieces as "tracks" rather than "songs".
- "Miss" is still missing a time signature for the pickup. You could also just make this one 2/4 measure beginning with a sixteenth rest, which I would find preferable.
Quote from: Latios212 on June 02, 2018, 08:45:48 AM- "Bonus" is still missing a time signature for the pickup. You could also just make this one 2/4 measure beginning with a sixteenth rest, which I would find preferable.
Yeah, I agree. A 1/4 measure looks silly.
Quote from: Latios212 on June 02, 2018, 08:45:48 AMLast couple of small things from me before we finish up here:
- In the written direction, it'd be better to refer to these pieces as "tracks" rather than "songs".
- "Miss" is still missing a time signature for the pickup. You could also just make this one 2/4 measure beginning with a sixteenth rest, which I would find preferable.
Done and done.
Sweet!
This submission has been accepted by Latios212 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4344).
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