Poll
Question:
best tapu?
Option 1: tapu koko
Option 2: tapu fini
Option 3: tapu lele
Option 4: tapu bulu
thought i'd make this before the discussion gets that going and then split up
can add polls later :]
the owl :']
Rowlet
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Litten
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Popplio
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Pokémon Sun box art
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Pokémon Moon box art
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Rowlet is the best. Look at those cute poses. I'm also confirmed going with Moon.
Also, friendly request to put future new Pokémon in spoiler tags, as above, so that we can choose whether to look at them or not.
:D Yeah, I'm going with Moon. Also, I'm definitely going Grass-type this time! I always have, but when I saw Chespin vs. Fennekin, I had second thoughts. BUT Chesnaught was worth it!
Litten is cute, though, but the name, really?
I always go water type, so it's obviously not a surprise what I'll pick.
I'm going with Moon because the first time I saw the legendary, I immediately thought of Marx from Kirby, so I obviously need to get it just so I can name it that.
Rowlet is the first starter since Bulbasaur to have multiple types, that's interesting.
going with grass for the third gen in a row -let is lit
lmao probably ending up ditching it anyways i'm not a fan of using starters anymore due to how oversaturated they are when you're playing with friends
Litten1264
Still can't beat the fire fox though
QuoteAlola Region
They could not be
any more subtle on where this region is based off of, could they?
In all seriousness, I have to give props to the guy who figured out that the next region would be based off of Hawaii based on the screenshots shown in the last Pokemon Direct. Of all the different guesses, Hawaii wasn't very popular.
What I think about the Pokemon shown in the trailer
Rowlet is so adorable! Not one piece of official art shows it not being cute in some way.
Litten's kinda cool. Though, I'm not entirely sold on the "fiery hairball" thing...
Popplio is a water type.
Legendaries look cool, though. It's about time we got a lion legendary!
Anyone want to start guessing types? I can't wait to see the new Fairy types they add this time around.
Tropical island makes me think of grass types and stuff. I want some weird typing like fire and water since there's a volcano. I know that already exists but we need more.
Edit: we need chocolate pokemon
tropius for regional dex
more than 70 new pokes pls
super on Team Rowlet right now it's too cute
Where's my fire-type fish starter?
the japanese are nuts when it comes to getting shit done latios dont you know this by now
Quote from: Latios212 on May 10, 2016, 12:48:50 PMWHAT THE HECK ALREADY
i wish i was this quick ._. /
WHAT
It took me 4 days, 12-hour sessions each, to write up my piano reduction of the PSMD Main Theme when it very first was heard shortly before E3 2015... and that wasn't even the whole song!
I call l33t h@x
Though, I suppose, when one omits all other elements from a score, it's fairly easy to plug in raw notes for a computer to play.
Quote from: Bespinben on May 10, 2016, 01:01:37 PMThough, I suppose, when one omits all other elements from a score, it's fairly easy to plug in raw notes for a computer to play.
jealous
stick to pmd2
Quote from: Latios212 on May 10, 2016, 08:21:47 AM
This is really cute.
Well holy frick that was actually a really good trailer.
Really good if I may add. Expressed the feelings of communication and making friends through the game perfectly, and showed things from the game a bit better than the US trailer did. I still stand by my feelings of the game looking samey and not much of a "celebration" type of game, but at least I can be happy for this trailer. Why didn't the US get a trailer with a similar theme? Would have prevented my knee-jerk reaction that's for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8TG1OBU6VA
wow the speed at which people can rip this stuff is amazing
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 10, 2016, 01:54:16 PMI still stand by my feelings of the game looking samey
I can't say I get this. RBY looked pretty much identical to GSC. RSE looked a lot like FRLG. DPP and HGSS looked alike, and similar to BW(2). All the games released on any one system are going to look alike by default. What else do you
want? Quoteand not much of a "celebration" type of game
There's still room for that!
The biggest thing I want to know about right now is the region. The pictures of it make it look really small. I think that because it's based off of Hawaii, it's going to take place over several islands and the one we see now is the biggest.
it didn't look very small to me
Being one of the first to draw r34 of something is on my bucket list
Quote from: Dude on May 10, 2016, 04:10:44 PMSpeaking of r34, I need that assistant professor guy.
you can still achieve that dream
Wait, nvm I saw some. It's bad tho so yours could be the first good one
Quote from: braixen1264 on May 10, 2016, 04:19:55 PMBeing one of the first to draw r34 of something is on my bucket list
Maybe you should wait a couple years before you do that....
Lol probably going Pokemon Sun, just to be a rebel.
I was really hoping for a platypus water starter not another seal, or an 11th cat Pokemon for that matter.. xD
Imma wait until the final evos are shown until I choose a starter though!
Anyone else not really a fan of the sideways camera angles?
And why is there no tall grass in either trailer?
Quote from: BrainyLucario on May 10, 2016, 05:04:38 PMMaybe you should wait a couple years before you do that....
but why
Quote from: DocDoom2 on May 10, 2016, 05:09:09 PMAnd why is there no tall grass in either trailer?
Gameplay footage is not finale.
I'm picking Pokemon Moon because that's what I decided when they first announced it and I'm not changing it.
I plan to get both, but I'm starting with Moon, because that might be my favorite version mascot, besides Giratina.
Big news, the full evolutions of the starters have been revealed!
Spoiler
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oh shit dude, definitely starting with rowlet
Quote from: Nebbles on May 10, 2016, 05:51:19 PMoh shit dude, definitely starting with rowlet
ROWLET used Encore!
"Do you want to hear what I said again?"
unfair favoritism toward rowlet
Quote from: Altissimo on May 10, 2016, 05:10:08 PMbut why
he should at least wait until he's learned how to draw nudes, which I'm pretty sure you have to learn in art school
Or Google... Google is a good place to get references to practice.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 10, 2016, 06:00:09 PMhe should at least wait until he's learned how to draw nudes, which I'm pretty sure you have to learn in art school
you know I went to an art school right
you didn't learn how to draw nudes yet though
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 10, 2016, 06:17:17 PMyou didn't learn how to draw nudes yet though
I have like 20 pages of nude figures in my sketchbook lmao
If guys, gimme
If girls, gimme
NSM after dark
dim those lights, turn up that smooth jazz
but yeah, people've been goin' on about how oh shit it's lit is gonna be the tiger in the chinese zodiac, going off of that thing where they associate every fire type with a zodiac animal. i think that could be a very real possibility, since oh shit it's lit has that marking on its forehead, which resembles the mark on a tiger's forehead, which the chinese say looks like the word 王, which means king. so i'm speculating that oh shit it's lit might evolve into some royal tiger thing as its final evolution.
also, i don't remember that pokemon's name, so i'm just going to call it "oh shit it's lit"
Why don't we stick to Pokemon News instead of that stuff about art? :P
these are very important matters that could affect the future of our nation
The next news we'll be getting is Corocoro then E3.
Quote from: Altissimo on May 10, 2016, 02:06:08 PMI can't say I get this. RBY looked pretty much identical to GSC. RSE looked a lot like FRLG. DPP and HGSS looked alike, and similar to BW(2). All the games released on any one system are going to look alike by default. What else do you want?
There's still room for that!
With the exception of BW2 (Since it was part of the same gen and also a direct sequel), the same system, new game titles added at least something to make the visuals distinctive. Heck, full Stereoscopic 3D support would be good enough for me if it didn't lag the game to single digit framerates. I'm just being overly cautious since I really don't want to feel like a truck hit me hard when I buy the game for myself after getting super hyped for months non-stopped. I did that with ORAS and it practically sent me into a depression of sorts due to me spending 2014 being very eager to play the game and have a good time like I did with HGSS, Emerald, and BW2. On the bright side, being overly cautious means if the game ends up actually being the best in the series with nothing held back, then that'll mean I'll be SUPER surprised and happy as my expectations would be blown away.
I hope we learn more info soon that eases my worries, but its hard not to be on edge, even if I had a kneejerk reaction at first I still firmly believe every word I said, at least regarding the content from the English trailer. (JPN trailer would have been much better to show worldwide IMO and wouldn't have made me as mad)
If everyone continues to nag me over my brutally honest opinion of justice, then I'll at least say to hopefully quiet people down and to prove that I'm just doing this for my own sanity is that I'll mention
one thing I'm super excited to hear confirmed: Trainer Customization returning. THANK GOD. That "It's a Kalos thing" BS from ORAS's launch made me think it would be in the same category as having Pokemon follow you, but I'm happy to be proven wrong on that.
...Unless this is proof of Kalos returning in the game, which in that case means Gen VIII or a DP remake may not have this. Argh, another thing to be cautious about.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on May 10, 2016, 07:10:07 PMThe next news we'll be getting is Corocoro then E3.
I don't know, Corocoro may just be a repeat of today's news, which is why they made the broadcast early so that it wouldn't get leaked. E3 is even more unlikely since it's Zelda focused with no digital event. I'm placing bets on the VGC Worlds event.
I think we'll get some more art in Corocoro, probs of the trainers and legendaries. Maybe another Pokemon or two, if lucky.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 10, 2016, 07:11:39 PMWith the exception of BW2 (Since it was part of the same gen and also a direct sequel), the same system, new game titles added at least something to make the visuals distinctive. Heck, full Stereoscopic 3D support would be good enough for me if it didn't lag the game to single digit framerates. I'm just being overly cautious since I really don't want to feel like a truck hit me hard when I buy the game for myself after getting super hyped for months non-stopped. I did that with ORAS and it practically sent me into a depression of sorts due to me spending 2014 being very eager to play the game and have a good time like I did with HGSS, Emerald, and BW2. On the bright side, being overly cautious means if the game ends up actually being the best in the series with nothing held back, then that'll mean I'll be SUPER surprised and happy as my expectations would be blown away.
We've seen like 5 minutes of footage though that's the thing there is still
a lot that could happen...
leaked starter battle footage
(https://67.media.tumblr.com/e94eafe324569b46d45537da5b88c45a/tumblr_o6yqriA2wb1root05o1_400.gif)
Wow, these graphics are so realistic!
added poll
shoutouts owlsquad :]
Isn't there going to be a new type in pokemon Sun and Moon? E. Gadd keeps going on about this Quantum type.
I doubt it.
The metagame of gen VI is pretty balanced right now iirc so there is no need to change it up.
Quote from: BrainyLucario on May 11, 2016, 05:58:29 AMIsn't there going to be a new type in pokemon Sun and Moon? E. Gadd keeps going on about this Quantum type.
Lol he's full of shit.
Adding a new type at this point would be disastrous, aside from being just plain stupid. Like Dude said, the metagame is fairly balanced at this point. Adding a new type would require new moves, new matchups, new retyping...not to mention it would make Sun/Moon incompatible with every other one of the 3DS titles.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on May 11, 2016, 06:29:13 AMLol he's full of shit.
I lol'd so goddamn hard
also: i'm one of those people that still thinks Sound should be a type since it's already like a "sub-type" but im not gonna push for it actively
it'd just be my favorite type is all hahahaha
i haven't really played or seen much pokémon games but i'm just stopping by to say that rowlet is definitely my favorite pokémon
owls
Quote from: Dudeman on May 10, 2016, 10:47:29 PMleaked starter battle footage
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this made my day thanks
actually the best thing to do would be remove fairy and dark types, possibly rock as well
Yes, let's reclassify/remove 130-ish Pokémon. That will only have positive results.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 11, 2016, 12:19:41 PMactually the best thing to do would be remove fairy and dark types, possibly rock as well
no son
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 11, 2016, 12:19:41 PMactually the best thing to do would be remove fairy and dark types, possibly rock as well
well I can actually see merits in merging ground and rock type but not removing them hell no
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on May 11, 2016, 01:02:48 PMno son
what he said
Pre-ordered my copies of Sun and Moon today!
Quote from: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 12:50:37 PMYes, let's reclassify/remove 130-ish Pokémon. That will only have positive results.
to be fair dark and fairy types were added so those never should have existed
Why not just eradicate all the gen 234567 Pokémon I mean it's not like the original creators intended for them to have existed because obviously they weren't in the original games so
What about steel types? That was added too. You know those types were added for balancing purposes, right?
steel type is cool though
but dark is cool too
you know what's even cooler... ... ... ...? ???
a certain steel/dark type
is mawile dark/steel type?
I just feel like some types have too much of an overlap and it makes things super confusing
Overlap? In what way?
I was just thinking about stuff, and then I thought...
Who's going to be composing the soundtrack?
Junichi Masuda has only contributed battle themes since Gen 2, Go Ichinose hasn't contributed anything since Gen 5 (:(), and Shota Kageyama who did the bulk of gen 6 music left Game Freak.
Hitomi Sato contributed significantly fewer tracks in XY than in previous gens, and only one in ORAS. I guess that leaves Minako Adachi who contributed a decent amount of tracks to XY and did a lot of remixing for ORAS.
I can't say I've liked the OSTs as much lately (but they're still good!) in part because of the soundfonts (I prefer a "crisper" sound, instruments sound more like they blend into one another in recent games and to some extent the trailer theme, background layers are less audible). But I'm kinda curious about how Sun and Moon music is gonna come out since my favorite composers haven't been anywhere to be seen in ORAS and now even Kageyama isn't here...
I'm banking and hoping on a Hitomi Sato, Go Ichinose, and Minako Adachi extravaganza. The former two don't need Kageyama to be successful (see B2W2) and Adachi has been doing a lot for the 3DS generation. I always want more Hitomi Sato in my life though, in my opinion she's by far the most interesting Pokémon composer.
Aye that would be great! I miss both Ichinose and Sato lately (they're my two favorite) but they've been almost completely absent lately...
Sun/Moon music please come faster haha
Quote from: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 08:08:01 PMOverlap? In what way?
a lot of pokemon look like they could be a lot of different types, which means there's a possibility some types don't need to exist
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on May 11, 2016, 02:59:03 PMbut dark is cool too
you know what's even cooler... ... ... ...? ???
a certain steel/dark type
yall know ice is probably the coolest type
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 11, 2016, 08:45:59 PMa lot of pokemon look like they could be a lot of different types, which means there's a possibility some types don't need to exist
i think you're missing the point
http://www.destructoid.com/why-ekans-is-the-best-pokemon-168461.phtml
I was really hoping that article wouldn't be sarcastic
Quote from: Latios212 on May 11, 2016, 08:13:53 PMShota Kageyama left Game Freak.
...and now even Kageyama isn't here...
:'(
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 11, 2016, 08:39:35 PMI always want more Hitomi Sato in my life though, in my opinion she's by far the most interesting Pokémon composer.
I feel/felt the same way about Kageyama. He literally is my favorite VG composer. It broke my heart to hear he left.
Actually upon looking further I'm not sure what him leaving Game Freak is supposed to imply about him composing for Pokémon or not.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shota_Kageyama (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shota_Kageyama)
It says he left at the beginning of 2014, but he's credited with like half the ORAS soundtrack and even some Pokkén tracks which came out after. Hmmm...
There's also his Twitter which I can't read but there's Pokémon stuff on it. (https://twitter.com/shotakageyama)
It's possible that he wrote those before or right when he left though, especially ORAS since it came out later that year. Then again, there's also this quote from the article you linked (which correlates with your point)
Quote from: BulbapediaHowever, he still maintains good terms with Game Freak, with the open possibility of collaborating with the company in the future.
Here's an article that basically says the same thing, but includes the actual twitter post (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-01-05/pokemon-xy/bw-music-shota-kageyama-leaves-game-freak-to-go-independent)
All I'm seeing on his Twitter account is that he's composed and arranged for, among other things, Pokémon HGSS, BW, XY, ORAS, and "Pokémon Comaster" which I've never heard of before, but it's a mobile game. No mention of composing for SM.
I hope he didn't work on Sun and Moon, I'm so sick of his musical style saturating Pokémon.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 13, 2016, 04:58:32 AMI hope he didn't work on Sun and Moon, I'm so sick of his musical style saturating Pokémon.
Oh be quiet you, Kageyama was the best thing to happen to Pokémon since Junichi Masuda himself (so, yeah, since it started).
Disclaimer: I don't mean to demean your opinions in reality. Just putting this in so ppl don't assume I'm trying to start a fightWell apparently his work in Pokkén Tournament was as a "Guest Composer" according to his website so.. yeah, maybe he won't be back.
Have you noticed that in Kageyama's tracks, you can always tell exactly where the music is going? That doesn't make them bad, but that does make them dull. He errs on the side of too familiar and even cliché a lot of the time whereas the other composers, particularly Masuda and Sato, write music that is pretty consistently unexpected or at least interesting. For example, Masuda's work on Red and Blue, as Olimar pointed out, is very very different in the way its bass is often nonexistent or interweaved with the melody (see tracks like Lavender Town for what I'm talking about). Even now, his battle themes are pretty consistently great. Sato uses a very unique style of scattered rhythms and often things like embellishments or grace notes in unexpected places. She at least shows a certain variety and impressive range in her composing ability--I love every single track she's written. Go Ichinose is definitely more of a "classic" and natural composer, but his ideas are infinitely more interesting and well-executed than Kageyama's. I might be alone in hearing these things, but I don't think anyone can deny what I'm talking about.
new mon from the corocoro trailer
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It's times like these that CSI zoom and enhance technology would really come in handy.
i wonder what this gens pikachu clone will be
spoilers: it's an electric type
Really? I was gonna say it was ground...
it's your average normal route 1 mon
edit nvm ignore me missed the pikaclone post
Quote from: JDMEK5 on May 13, 2016, 06:43:59 AMOh be quiet you, Kageyama was the best thing to happen to Pokémon since Junichi Masuda himself (so, yeah, since it started).
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 13, 2016, 06:59:44 AMHave you noticed that in Kageyama's tracks, you can always tell exactly where the music is going? That doesn't make them bad, but that does make them dull.
Speaking from the perspective of someone who has little experience with music outside video games, I can maybe kinda feel what you're talking about with some tracks, but for sure Kageyama composed many of my favorite tracks. (Soaring Illusions mmm....)
Of course the other three are great, there's no denying that :J I can't really pick a favorite, though I might be inclined to go with Go Ichinose.
I have no idea what these names mean. :D
Google exists for a reason.
Ugh, I don't got time for google.
Then stop interrupting actual conversations with interjections about how you don't understand something if you're not even willing to look it up. It's annoying.
Sorry, I guess I shouldn't have said anything..
Context helps figure it out
but that involves reading and reading is hard
Ah, I feel slightly obligated to like Kageyama since he composed my favourite track in Pokkén (Tellur Town (Autumn)). I wasn't really a fan of XY's soundtrack, so I'm hoping they go with a different style this time (everything Hawaiian ukulele and bossa novas and all that nice beachy stuff?... Mmm...)
Ah good, I'm not the only person who wasn't a fan of XY's music!
Don't always keep track of the composers but Junichi is obviously one of my favs.
I really (like, REALLY) liked Gen 5's Gym Battle theme and pretty much every town theme in its soundtrack.
Was Kageyama the one who composed every track in X/Y? If so, I don't think we need him, as I personally found the songs in that game to be really bland and boring, outside of KISEKI (The ending). On the other hand, ORAS's OST was fantastic and a worthy replace of the original, so if he worked on that OST as well, I'm all for him returning since he did a major improvement in that game. Personally I still feel that BW has the best OST in a main series game though so I hope we get some excellent tracks like in that game.
I suppose now that we're four days after the initial reveal (and my kneejerk reaction of sorts), I guess I'd be better off sharing my honest, "calmer" opinions on the franchise and why I'm still cautious about Sun/Moon. I planned to just write a whole big paragraph but I honestly felt being 100% honest and natural with myself and showing it in a vlog form would get the point across more "naturally", so I don't come across as a raging troll. A bit of a warning that I do go on for a long while about ORAS and the past games, but I added an annotation for you to jump ahead to the Sun/Moon reaction (from a calmed-down me). For those interested, I'll embed in a spoiler below so it doesn't take up a lot of the page (as embeds sometimes do on mobile)
Spoiler
In terms of more recent opinions on things I didn't mention in the video, the more I look at the region I'm a bit happy it's unlikely to be as small as I worried it was. My grandma loves Hawaii a lot so when she learned it would be based off of that area she was happy to point out to me that it would likely be a five-island adventure since Hawaii is a "Stunning, beautiful state". I usually don't count on her for Pokemon things, but perhaps from her personal experience, this could end up being a BIGGER Pokemon game than we all thought? Hopefully it does something akin to the islands in Mega Man Legends 2, giving the game a metroidvania vibe of sorts. I'll be keeping my eye on this game for sure, regardless on if my opinions change.
About Waddle's pic, it reminds me of a reindeer, but reindeer don't live in Hawai'i. Hmmm... Could it be a rabbit/cat/deer? :D A rateer!
...wait, why would they...
...
Don't do that, Game Freak. PLEASE.
I'd hate to think of a rat's ear anytime I see it.
KISEKI is the most childish track in all of Pokémon LMAO
Kageyama was sound director and lead composer of BW, XY, and ORAS (along with Minako Adachi). He also worked on HGSS.
Quote from: Latios212 on May 13, 2016, 04:58:35 PMThen stop interrupting actual conversations with interjections about how you don't understand something if you're not even willing to look it up. It's annoying.
bang bang bang
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on May 14, 2016, 11:50:38 AMAbout Waddle's pic, it reminds me of a reindeer, but reindeer don't live in Hawai'i. Hmmm... Could it be a rabbit/cat/deer? :D A rateer!
...wait, why would they...
...
Don't do that, Game Freak. PLEASE.
I'd hate to think of a rat's ear anytime I see it.
Could it possibly be a jackalope-inspired Pokemon?
D: I forgot about that! That is entirely plausible!
I legitimately thought it was the pre-evolution for Stantler.
A poster of what looks like final concept artwork from the new game was leaked, and it includes the mystery pokemon from Waddle's screen shot. I'll put it in a spoiler for those who don't want things spoiled:
Spoiler
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2F2j41vsw.jpg&hash=aa18aa2e23bc297422cb5497829d27820e0873ac)
tbh, I'm surprised they've gone this long without something like this happening.
*slow nod*
Lmao they look like lilo and stitch characters wtf is this XD
^it's a sheet of characters from Lilo and Stitch the series
I figured.
C'mon, they're not that bad. Just because it's supposed to be based in Hawaii doesn't mean they're "all lilo and stitch characters."
god
I like the new designs, I wonder what typing the hammerhead mon will have, it looks sick
pls noo
b-but you can literally see Stitch down at the bottom...
Disney bought out TPCi confirmed
i lol'd
I saw a youtube thumbnail with pictures of very convincing final evolutions of the starters, but since my school got a firewall I can't figure out if anything is real. Has anyone seen more leak type things?
They're more than likely just leaks. The japanese pokemon site for sun and moon had hidden files of 6 typings: grass, flying, ground, fire, fighting, and water. People are speculating that these are the typings for the starters and started making art for them.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on May 16, 2016, 02:20:25 PMThey're more than likely just leaks. The japanese pokemon site for sun and moon had hidden files of 6 typings: grass, flying, ground, fire, fighting, and water. People are speculating that these are the typings for the starters and started making art for them.
Due to the order of them, specifically, Grass/Flying (as we already know), Fire/Ground, and Water/Fighting. It would be pretty interesting to see, although RIP Litten evolution.
I'm probably going to pick litten, as I usually pick the fire starter and I feel like Litten is going to be picked the least.
Actually Popplio is the least poppular. Everyone has been hating on it.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 16, 2016, 04:02:12 PMActually Popplio is the least poppular. Everyone has been hating on it.
Which is funny, because once I became aware of the hate it was getting, I quickly started noticing a substantial amount of people who actually love it. Popplio's polarizing, and Rowlet is the fan favorite. That kind of leaves Litten in the dust. And if it
does turn out to be Fire/Ground, that might make it worse.
dat x4 water weakness
I thought Rowlet and Litten were the most popular, with Rowlet maybe slightly edging out the latter?
Rowlet's definitely the most popular.
Wow. That's unusual for me to see that a Fire starter isn't the most popular; around here, pretty much everyone picks Fire every time.
I don't really think that it's a significant difference between them. They seem to be loved equally. Rowlet is the most popular so it will be picked the most. Pupplio is the least popular and people sympathizing for it/ actually liking it will make it picked the second most. Then Litten.
Forgive me for continuing in an old discussion but what with my internet no longer in service, I'm late to every party it seems now.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 13, 2016, 06:59:44 AMHave you noticed that in Kageyama's tracks, you can always tell exactly where the music is going? That doesn't make them bad, but that does make them dull. He errs on the side of too familiar and even cliché a lot of the time whereas the other composers, particularly Masuda and Sato, write music that is pretty consistently unexpected or at least interesting. For example, Masuda's work on Red and Blue, as Olimar pointed out, is very very different in the way its bass is often nonexistent or interweaved with the melody (see tracks like Lavender Town for what I'm talking about). Even now, his battle themes are pretty consistently great. Sato uses a very unique style of scattered rhythms and often things like embellishments or grace notes in unexpected places. She at least shows a certain variety and impressive range in her composing ability--I love every single track she's written. Go Ichinose is definitely more of a "classic" and natural composer, but his ideas are infinitely more interesting and well-executed than Kageyama's. I might be alone in hearing these things, but I don't think anyone can deny what I'm talking about.
See, I guess we appreciate these composers for different reasons. While I do love things unpredictable and different, there's something about a bit of predictability that speaks to me. Like an organic conversation. That's why Kageyama's stuff often resonates with me. I can definitely listen critically and appreciate small sporatic details in any piece of music, but it's the simple, catchy, predictable stuff that I listen to when I'm driving or doing the dishes.
Honestly though, I think its the Black/White Ending that is my personal fav of his.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 14, 2016, 09:49:02 AMWas Kageyama the one who composed every track in X/Y? If so, I don't think we need him, as I personally found the songs in that game to be really bland and boring, outside of KISEKI (The ending). On the other hand, ORAS's OST was fantastic and a worthy replace of the original, so if he worked on that OST as well, I'm all for him returning since he did a major improvement in that game. Personally I still feel that BW has the best OST in a main series game though so I hope we get some excellent tracks like in that game.
It's kinda funny because Kageyama contributed both a majority of OR/AS tracks (last I remember off-hand anyways)as well as a vast majority of X/Y (including KISEKI. I have to say though that I think there are tons and tons of tracks in X/Y that are better than KISEKI but we'll agree to disagree I suppose) But BW was where I first noticed him and I find that a massive, massive majority of my favorite songs from BW were by him. I'll even go so far as to agree that BW OST in general is better than X/Y (namely also his contributions to each in contrast to each other).
Quote from: Nebbles on May 16, 2016, 04:13:45 PMdat x4 water weakness
Sorry to change the subject, but now that I think about it, isn't it funny that all starter types when paired with ground get a 4x weakness?
Grass-Ground has Ice, Fire-Ground has Water, and Water-Ground has Grass.
Not to mention 2 of them of are Grass and Water as well!
ground confirmed worst type
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 18, 2016, 10:41:51 AMground confirmed worst type
I did a monotype challenge in Emerald with just Ground-types once. I had Swampert, Flygon, Golem, Sandslash, Camerupt, and Claydol.
Wallace and Juan were not fun. But I beat them eventually!!
We're getting some new news on June 2nd, apparently.
Quote from: Nebbles on May 18, 2016, 01:37:56 PMWe're getting some new news on June 2nd, apparently.
I'm glad it isn't old news
Quote from: Nebbles on May 18, 2016, 01:37:56 PMWe're getting some new news on June 2nd, apparently.
Where from?
Uhh, I don't remember, but I saw it posted on Twitter, Bulbapedia, Serebii. so it's legit.
I looked into it, and all it said was TPC tweeted that we'd get the news. So idk where to be to receive it when it lands. XD
Eh I'm sure it'll be all over Twitter, but hey that's only 2 weeks away at least.
Oh neat, looks like it's coming out right after my birthday. ^^
I was just wondering... are people expecting any particular new features in the game that they have been asking for? I haven't really been keeping up with the Pokémon releases (the most recent game I've played was HeartGold/SoulSilver, ehehe) as the games have felt fairly repetitive to me, so I was curious as to what you all would like to see in this new release?
I think someone already mentioned here that a new Type would be troublesome? I personally think it's possible for a game to evolve in this way, as long as the game developers think it through carefully and balance it out.
Keep us posted on the news. :)
Quote from: Onionleaf on May 18, 2016, 07:24:19 PMI think someone already mentioned here that a new Type would be troublesome? I personally think it's possible for a game to evolve in this way, as long as the game developers think it through carefully and balance it out.
mostly it'd be troublesome because we *just* got fairy
18 types is already a lot, I have trouble remembering which moves are effective against which then they throw it upside down by adding a new type and changing everything
two words: git gud
Quote from: Dudeman on May 18, 2016, 09:44:39 PMtwo words: git gud
this tbh. it took me like 2 battles with a fairy type to figure out their weaknesses and resistances.
I had a dream last night that we had a little bit of information on Sun and Moon (which, in my dream, were called like Emerald and Diamond versions and we all thought Jade would be the third version I don't fucking know) including a new "Storm" type, the fact that half the region was made up of snake Pokémon (and in the dream I remember thinking "wait is that a thing Hawaii is known for??"), and we saw part of the evil team and they wore JADE-GREEN (hence Jade version) and the PROFESSOR of the region had JADE-GREEN HAIR so I was like "gUYS GUYS THE PROfESSOR IS PART OF THE EVIL TEAM" and i had discovered a Great Secret
I went to bed at 4:30 am ok
you dream about video game announcements
I've dreamt about weirder things
you're a special one
that's what my mommy always said!!!!
Hey, I've dreamt about video game announcements too.
Quote from: Altissimo on May 19, 2016, 10:27:12 AMthe fact that half the region was made up of snake Pokémon
OH LORD NOW I WANT TO SEE THIS.
Quote from: Altissimo on May 19, 2016, 10:27:12 AMI had a dream last night that we had a little bit of information on Sun and Moon (which, in my dream, were called like Emerald and Diamond versions and we all thought Jade would be the third version I don't fucking know) including a new "Storm" type, the fact that half the region was made up of snake Pokémon (and in the dream I remember thinking "wait is that a thing Hawaii is known for??"), and we saw part of the evil team and they wore JADE-GREEN (hence Jade version) and the PROFESSOR of the region had JADE-GREEN HAIR so I was like "gUYS GUYS THE PROfESSOR IS PART OF THE EVIL TEAM" and i had discovered a Great Secret
I swear, if any of this actually happens in Sun and Moon, I will hold a newfound respect for you. O_O
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on May 20, 2016, 07:32:09 AMI swear, if any of this actually happens in Sun and Moon, I will hold a newfound respect for you. O_O
i better have dreams if i want any respect around here then ._.
or maybe it was made up, either way i wonder if people at nintendo dream about this stuff
Quote from: Ōkami~MD on May 21, 2016, 11:51:07 AMi better have dreams if i want any respect around here then ._.
or maybe it was made up, either way i wonder if people at nintendo dream about this stuff
I've dreamt about fanfics other people have written before. not even my own fanfics. so unless I'm just a fuckin weirdo then I'm pretty sure Nintendo definitely do, in fact, dream about
their own video games lol
I was told by my first boss that if you're dreaming about work, you're working too hard. Of course, she dreamed about work all the time too.
That could be true to an extent
Quote from: Altissimo on May 21, 2016, 11:57:03 AMI've dreamt about fanfics other people have written before. not even my own fanfics. so unless I'm just a fuckin weirdo then I'm pretty sure Nintendo definitely do, in fact, dream about their own video games lol
...soooo
Quote from: Dude on May 25, 2016, 09:56:04 AM...soooo
What this means is that Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon will be everything you ever dreamed about.
I remember when X/Y launched a few weeks after I dreamed I was battling in Hoenn with my Latios from Emerald.
...One year later that ended up being a reality, but not in the way I hoped. Still, it's funny to look back on now that I think about it.
Speaking of dreams, I also had one about Sun/Moon lately, which surprised me since my expectations are mostly in check and I've been playing games like La Mulana as of late instead of Pokemon, but anyways, here's what I dreamed about, to the best of my memory.
-It started with me playing the game and seeing the main character enter a cabin, like an inn cabin of sorts with dining tables on the bottom floor. Unsure why that was in my dream, but that's one thing I remember.
-Then I check a piece of paper on the NPC's desk and see an in-game advertisement for the Battle Frontier, (I NEVER GAVE UP ON THAT) apparently in some place called Kahana Island (some random name that popped into my dream I suppose. I don't even know if Kahana is a word).
-It then jumped to me just finishing a battle against a Popplio (I assume I was fighting the rival?) and seeing Rowlett evolve into a rather cool-looking Hawk Pokemon afterwards. I'd actually pick it without hesitation if that ended up being what it evolved into.
-And with another jump of sorts I was guiding my trainer through what seemed to be a starry hall of sorts, as if I was on the moon. Then my trainer was suddenly fighting Olympia for some reason, and the dream ended then and there.
Honestly, I don't think my gaming related dreams really mean much of anything, but it would be neat if some of these things ended up coming true. I mean, it would be really cool to fight a trainer/legendary on the moon of all places! (Though if that was in Pokemon Moon, that would mean pokemon Sun would make you fight on the Sun which is impossible)
I swear, it seems even if I want to forget about this game and move on with my life it's pulling me closer and closer towards it! Help...
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 25, 2016, 12:49:41 PM...rather cool-looking Hawk Pokemon afterwards.
You were dreaming about a hawk. You're username is "TheDreamingHawk".
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on May 25, 2016, 12:53:46 PMYou were dreaming about a hawk. You're username is "TheDreamingHawk".
wow
this is perfect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahana
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 25, 2016, 02:04:35 PMwow
this is perfect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahana
HOLY FRICK that's eerie. Sorta gives me a bit of hope Rowlet's evolutions will look as cool as I dreamed of (And perhaps if there ever is a PMDVI, give my username a literal meaning!)
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on May 25, 2016, 12:41:08 PMWhat this means is that Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon will be everything you ever dreamed about.
I made fanfictions that one time but apparently no one remembers.
I do
Quote from: Dude on May 26, 2016, 11:32:04 AMI made fanfictions that one time but apparently no one who can read remembers.
fixed
Yes! The region is multiple islands!
dangit when are they gonna include some new music
Hell yeah I'm really excited and surprised about these Pokémon types. Psychic/Ghost is such a great combination, I'm glad I'm picking Moon. Psychic/Steel has already been done but it's still an interesting combo with a lot of defenses.
These games are looking better by the minute.
I am so excited that we have another ghost type legendary. Also, the Rotom Pokedex is the coolest thing ever.
they could have done so much better with the ghost typing, it's looking like just a better hoopa so far
also look how cool this looks :]
what is with that girls hat
Solgaleo is pretty awesome. I wasn't really expecting Psychic/Steel (it looks nothing like the other Psychic/Steel we already have!), so it's always welcome, plus, its ability seems pretty great for it. Lunala also seems interesting, and at least it has a Multiscale-like ability to combat its 4x weaknesses. Yeah. Weaknesses. Their signature moves seem interesting as well. Not too sure on the protagonist designs: they both look a bit derpy, especially the female protagonist (and is it just me, or is the male protagonist wearing Poké-Crocs? :P). The region looks beautiful (definitely got a lot of Hawaii influence going on in all aspects of its design, as if the island layout left any doubts), the professor guy is also interesting (seems pretty chill), Lillie looks kind of ghost-like and frightening (potential villainous team leader, anyone? Let's get those super-super-early predictions going!), don't have much to say about Hau (HAU!?), and Rotomdex is AMAZING (I wonder if... we'll actually be able to fight with it? Electric/Steel Rotom, anybody?).
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 02, 2016, 11:18:53 AMdon't have much to say about Hau (HAU!?)
What, is that an attempt to
shield yourself from criticism?
no one ever understands
Quote from: Dudeman on June 02, 2016, 11:26:12 AMWhat, is that an attempt to shield yourself from criticism?
no one ever understands
Ay! A pun so bad I must
mask my face in shame!
rotomdex is in fact the best thing ever
Rotomdex is something I never knew I needed, but I love it.
they gave a kind of stupid idea design space and now it's good
O_O
Did you guys see when Lunala did the Moongeist Beam, how it formed a third eye???
...Illuminati confirmed.
My bat child grows more beautiful every day.
added new poll
also previous poll results, probably could redo the starter poll when we have more info:
Which starter do you plan to go with?
Rowlet
- 11 (55%)
Litten
- 6 (30%)
Popplio
- 3 (15%)
Here's something I saw on Serebii, "There's a new feature where you can scan QR Codes in order to read a Pokémon's Pokédex data to explain where you can find it. You can also share codes with a friend so it is registered in your Pokédex..."
Seems like a nice feature to have so that your friend doesn't have to trade their Mew to you in order for you to get registered in your Pokedex, etc.
And on the Alola Map I noticed some good potential Ice Gym and Water Gym locations.
Either way, these games are starting to shape-up! now all I need are new pokemon and the evos of the starters and I'll be good
Thoughts on today's news:
Legendaries: Honestly, it showed yet another example of how Gamefreak & Nintendo needs to do a better job of making their trademarks private. Seriously, the names are really cool and if they weren't leaked early, I probably would have been a huge fan of them. Still a huge fan of Lunaala due to design and moves, but the fact that the other one has the exact same typing as Jirachi (When they share nothing in common) just comes across as odd. I mean, it's like they forced the typing onto the Sun Legendary just so people would stop calling it White Pyroar or something. Oh well, hopefully it gets cool moves that makes him a good addition on the team.
Region: Well, the five-island adventure theory seems to have come true, and from the full map it seems like it could possibly be as long as the first half of HGSS/GS in terms of getting to the league? Maybe? Depends on all they put in the islands.
Profressor: TEN HOURS and the shadow realms of the internet are filled with this guy. One thing is for sure, at least seeing everyone go crazy over this guy gave me the best laughs I've had in months.
Rotom Dex: Odd concept... But I actually do think a interactive Pokedex that talked to you in the game (instead of just the anime) was way overdue. Very interesting! Though the QR code thing seems a bit unsettling since it could easily lead to folks slamming serebii on launch day to fill up all the Seen category.
Also, I LOVE the new interface.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fa%2Fa9%2FSM_Prerelease_Alola_Pok%25C3%25A9dex.png&hash=9c1bf8398cbb20f8854fcb4520a65cffb9d56d52)
New Player characters: I really do like their designs a lot more than the ones from X/Y. I think they are my favorite trainer designs since G/S/C.
Overworld footage: Since they showed off a lot more, I'm a bit happy that it seems to give me some Bravely Default/Second vibes. Doesn't seem like there's tall grass this time around, either. Maybe the battles will be engaged akin to Chrono Trigger? (As in every Wild Pokemon is on the map and you run into it to start the battle)
Battle footage: The most disappointing part. While the HUD looks flashier and the new Pokemon look cool in battle, the two older Pokemon they showed (Gengar and Salamence) literally have no changed animations from Gen VI, which is completely disappointing considering how the Gen I-Gen II and the Gen IV-Gen V transitions added newer sprites for most of the older pokemon. I really hope that "Gameplay footage not final" means this is only temporary and that they aren't going to rehash the Gen VI models.
Overall, it fit my expectations well. Not super excited still, but I am interested enough in seeing it at E3 in a few weeks.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 02, 2016, 04:25:11 PMSeriously, the names are really cool and if they weren't leaked early, I probably would have been a huge fan of them.
What? A name is a name no matter when you find out about it.
I just want to buy these so I can spam my sky attack rhydons in online battles
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 02, 2016, 04:25:11 PMBattle footage: The most disappointing part. While the HUD looks flashier and the new Pokemon look cool in battle, the two older Pokemon they showed (Gengar and Salamence) literally have no changed animations from Gen VI, which is completely disappointing considering how the Gen I-Gen II and the Gen IV-Gen V transitions added newer sprites for most of the older pokemon. I really hope that "Gameplay footage not final" means this is only temporary and that they aren't going to rehash the Gen VI models.
I don't really understand why you expect this. Remaking a sprite is one thing; updating a 3D model, complete with new animations, is another thing entirely. What is there to update, anyway? Do you just want difference for difference's sake? Was there something wrong with the X/Y models? I thought they were perfectly fine. Besides, Sun and Moon appear to be running on an engine very similar to X and Y's, with few modifications. Why they need new models is beyond me.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 02, 2016, 04:25:11 PMBattle footage: The most disappointing part. While the HUD looks flashier and the new Pokemon look cool in battle, the two older Pokemon they showed (Gengar and Salamence) literally have no changed animations from Gen VI, which is completely disappointing considering how the Gen I-Gen II and the Gen IV-Gen V transitions added newer sprites for most of the older pokemon. I really hope that "Gameplay footage not final" means this is only temporary and that they aren't going to rehash the Gen VI models.
That's not at all comparable. There was a reason for gen 2 to redraw their sprites, because apart from the old ones being horrid messes, gen 2 had different color and shading options, so why
wouldn't they show them off by redrawing them? Then gen 5 had the whole dynamic movement thing, and a lot of the gen 4 sprites would have translated very poorly to that kind of style. On the other hand, gen 6 and 7 are not only on the same system but are using the same battle system, so I don't see any reason why Game Freak would spend their time redrawing perfectly good models when nothing is different enough to warrant it.
And because I know you're going to come back and say "well why don't they change the battle interface then", it is counter-intuitive to change it every generation when there is no reason to. As the old adage goes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". If it's because you want something a little prettier or different, well... that's not how game companies work. There simply is not a reason to revamp the battle interface yet again just because it's similar to something that worked from a previous generation.
There comes a point at which there are no more graphical updates to be had. It's kind of unfair to expect them to arbitrarily make some for the sake of ... I don't even know what. "Variety"?
Dudeman ninja'd and said most of the same shit.
Agree with Dudeman and Alti. Stop asking for too much. You're setting yourself up to be disappointed.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 02, 2016, 04:25:11 PMOverworld footage: Since they showed off a lot more, I'm a bit happy that it seems to give me some Bravely Default/Second vibes. Doesn't seem like there's tall grass this time around, either. Maybe the battles will be engaged akin to Chrono Trigger? (As in every Wild Pokemon is on the map and you run into it to start the battle)
If you take a closer look at the first few shots of the overworld, there is definitely tall grass there, it just looks WAY different from X/Y and ORAS.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 02, 2016, 04:25:11 PMJirachi
>_<
For some reason, in my earlier post, I thought that Bronzor/Bronzong were the only Steel/Psychic types. Yup. Not one of my best days.
Metagross!
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 02, 2016, 07:26:31 PM>_<
For some reason, in my earlier post, I thought that Bronzor/Bronzong were the only Steel/Psychic types. Yup. Not one of my best days.
Huh,
I thought the Metagross line was the only Steel/Psychic family. Looks like we've all got our favorites.
Well, the Bronzor line is kinda forgettable.
Quote from: Nebbles on June 02, 2016, 04:48:46 PMAgree with Dudeman and Alti. Stop asking for too much. You're setting yourself up to be disappointed.
So asking for things to make Gen VII look and feel like anything different than Gen VI is asking too much? When did that happen? I just gave my honest POSITIVE feedback on the new Pokedex and overworked yet you think me hoping for a bit of a touch up in the battle system is too much, when believe it or not folks on the Pokemon Social Media feeds are pointing out the same concern I have with reused models. I mean, yes, 3D Models are more difficult to make, but they could at the very least give them an extra animation or something to add onto them. It just seems like in terms of battle visual upgrades it seems akin to BW1 to BW2, rather than the usual new generation even though other things like the overworld and pokedex have gotten visual upgrades that would be expected.
You want to bash folks for unrealistic opinions, go towards those who're fuming that this isn't the Pokemon MMO they've been asking about for so many years, or that this game is unlikely to have all seven regions crammed into one game, or the usual complaints about it not being a console game. Those are unrealistic. Hoping for the game to feel fresh isn't, and I'll stand by that until the very end, which is why i'll be awaiting the Treehouse E3 to see it in action more.
Yay whining and bitching
I remember Bronzong mostly because I had one on my team for a time in Gen 4, and because it pops up a lot in Random Battles (and it's usually pretty helpful with Gyro Ball).
Game developers don't owe us anything tho
Like I'm way more interested in what game freak's own creative or artistic visions are than a game just appealing to fans
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 03, 2016, 11:20:01 AMGame developers don't owe us anything tho
To be fair, though, if they don't make a game that appeals to people, people probably won't buy the game (of course, this probably doesn't apply as much to something like Pokemon, just with games in general).
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 03, 2016, 11:24:00 AMTo be fair, though, if they don't make a game that appeals to people, people probably won't buy the game (of course, this probably doesn't apply as much to something like Pokemon, just with games in general).
This is 100% true IMO.
Do we need GF to listen to every vocal minority on the planet? No, then we'd end up with more shovelware like CoMaster (which according to importers like Serebii and others is a unfair game with cheap difficulty designed to sell micro transactions) or a poorly made Pokemon MMO. Heck, as I mentioned earlier a bit of X/Y was influenced by the loud Genwunner fanbase from the Gen V era in an attempt to win them back, (and it did work, I saw more older players play the games again during Gen VI than I did when playing Gen V) though thankfully at least they managed to make a moderately engaging story with Team Flare and AZ. That's sorta why they ended up doing things in recent years designed to target certain groups of people, as it helps the franchise sell in the end.
Gen V: Tired of the same old stuff? Here's a chance to have things feel new and mysterious all over again.
Gen VI: Loved the feeling from the original games? Try our new games to get some of that old spirit back.
Gen VII: Want more exploration in your Pokemon Games to feel like an adventure? You got it!
And so on. It's pretty much a thing they HAVE to do to keep the franchise alive, especially since in Japan Yokai Watch is slowly trying to catch up to the franchise and I feel that's making GF go into overdrive mode.
Quote from: Dudeman on June 03, 2016, 10:33:32 AMHuh, I thought the Metagross line was the only Steel/Psychic family. Looks like we've all got our favorites.
I couldn't think of
any
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 03, 2016, 11:32:55 AMDo we need GF to listen to every vocal minority on the planet? No
This goes two ways, though. I've seen you mention a lot that you hate the fact that X/Y targeted genwunners a bit more. Now, I hate genwunners as much as the next guy, but like, I've seen you point out how much you dislike this fact and think they shouldn't have gone that route for X/Y. Problem is... "GF does not need to listen to every vocal minority on the planet", and this includes you. Genwunner-focused X/Y are what sold, and you can hate it as much as you want, but really when you say things like
Quotebut the loud folks who refused to let go of their charizards somehow convinced Gamefreak to ignore the ones who wanted to see the series grow, and instead listen to the group of folks by stuffing X/Y with Gen 1 throwbacks that made no sense plotwise.
then it makes it sound like you expect Game Freak to listen to
your vocal minority. Why do your opinions take precedence?
Especially considering in this post, you seem to agree that Game Freak should change it up.
QuoteThat's sorta why they ended up doing things in recent years designed to target certain groups of people, as it helps the franchise sell in the end.
[...]
And so on. It's pretty much a thing they HAVE to do to keep the franchise alive
In the post I started out quoting, you seem to indicate that Game Freak can do whatever they need to to sell, and not listen to every vocal minority in the process. In the post I quoted riffing on X/Y, you seem to think Game Freak should not be listening to the vocal Genwunner minority. These are two heavily contrasting and probably incompatible opinions, and both have been made by you in the last two days. Which one do you believe?
I guess I'm a genwunner if the only reason I want moon is to import my pokemon from blue via pokemon bank
SKY ATTACK RHYDONS GUISE
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 03, 2016, 11:41:47 AMI guess I'm a genwunner if the only reason I want moon is to import my pokemon from blue via pokemon bank
SKY ATTACK RHYDONS GUISE
Same but that's the only reason I want blue is so I can get sky attack rhydons
I am from Gen 1, but I am not from GenWun
ok actually can someone draw me a picture of rhydon in the middle of a sky attack animation
Quote from: Bespinben on June 03, 2016, 11:53:57 AMI am from Gen 1, but I am not from GenWun
of course not, genwunners have never played mystery dungeon
Quote from: Altissimo on June 03, 2016, 11:40:05 AMIn the post I started out quoting, you seem to indicate that Game Freak can do whatever they need to to sell, and not listen to every vocal minority in the process. In the post I quoted riffing on X/Y, you seem to think Game Freak should not be listening to the vocal Genwunner minority. These are two heavily contrasting and probably incompatible opinions, and both have been made by you in the last two days. Which one do you believe?
Honestly, I agree with both of them, but more focused on my recent one after the new SuMo trailer showed improvements in many other parts of the game. Even if
I personally dislike the game in the end, there's bound to be some good qualities that'll make other folks happy. Heck, looking back at ORAS, despite me having a burning hatred for the quality of the game itself,
I really do love the remixes and can see why folks consider it the best OST of the main series.It's also true whether we like it or not that Gamefreak needs to do whatever it can to sell to as many folks as possible, but it also needs to keep a level head and not have that prevent their vision of what the game should be. In other words, if someone at game freak comes up with a cool idea to add to the game, only to push it out of their minds out of fear of a certain minority (and yes, even if its the minority I'm apart of), that shouldn't be how its done, instead they should just have fun and make a game they themselves want to enjoy like the consumers would. It's true that with ANY gaming franchise, you cannot appeal to everybody, and have to find that perfect balance. Really, even if I personally want Gamefreak to just make a fun, challenging experience, they are the ones with the decision making, and they could just make it however they want, even if inside I would hate it, outside as a game reviewer I would at least understand the need to make things accessible so that more people can join in the fun and expand the brand.
Please understand me when I'm saying,
I do not hate the Pokemon Franchise. I'm just disappointed with it as of late from a personal standpoint. It's not as easy to talk this subject over text than it is in my video I shared a few pages ago, but it still is an important thing to keep in mind. I too would be happy if the final product created more situations like the first Japanese trailer (With new friendships being made over the game), as that's what the core essence of Pokemon is all about.
So really, TLDR;
I just want Gamefreak to shut out EVERYBODY, even myself and make a game that they would find fun to play. That's the sort of idea that made indie games like La-Mulana and Cave Story so good, from the desire of the dev teams to just have a fun time and share the joy with the audience. That's really all that needs to be done in the end, and I do sincerely apologize if I seem to be overly defensive on some things. Even if my general bad issues with paranoia affect my hype of the game, Game Freak is the ones who'll make the final call, and that's really one thing every single minority needs to keep in mind.
I for one would actually enjoy a pokemon game if it pushed more on the adventure aspect and story rather than the core gameplay of "beat the elite 4". I always enjoy when there are extra areas to explore/dungeon crawl like the Abandoned Ship or Moon Cave or that area in between Rusturf Tunnel or secret bases or that route outside of Victory Road where shaymin is or the Sevii Islands or underwater routes or the routes outside of fortree city or the safari zones or the ruins of alph. What I don't enjoy is random encounters interrupting said exploration. And Mt. Moon. Mt. Moon sucks too.
When I play a pokemon game, I play it for the feel that every pokemon game has; befriending creatures and watching them grow as I do. Each generation/region has its own uniqueness that others think should return because they liked it, but they were a unique introduction to make each game feel unique, not the same but with more. I love several aspects of different pokemon games that make me want to play certain generations for different feels/adventures, but the core of pokemon is making friends (with pokemon or other people) and going on a journey with them.
i have an idea, we could just post news about s&m and not give any opinions because it's not like game freak is monitoring our site anyway lolol
please get the tree branches out of your asses
but they need to make it more like zelda
said no one ever
really though I don't see a problem with exchanging opinions about what we hope to see in S+M
perhaps you have one, perhaps you don't, if you do we'd enjoy hearing it though
Quote from: Dude on June 03, 2016, 01:31:51 PMi have an idea, we could just post news about s&m and not give any opinions because it's not like game freak is monitoring our site anyway lolol
please get the tree branches out of your asses
Welcome to the internet ;)
I mean if they're productive, then yeah, that's cool. But bitching about why the gengar doesn't look "real" enough doesn't help.
yeah, I guess it's a bit unrealistic for someone to hope they'd switch to a new engine when A) the first one works well and B) they're still on 3DS, but that's not all anybody ever said
Pretty sure saying "they're just using rehashed models and not doing anything new" is bitching about not real enough graphics.
Quote from: Dude on June 03, 2016, 01:43:57 PMPretty sure saying "they're just using rehashed models and not doing anything new" is bitching about not real enough graphics.
That's... Not what I meant at all. I could care less if the Pokemon were realistic. Heck, that's the last thing I'd want to happen to them. I was just hoping for a few more animations or at least a different pose, nothing more, nothing less. Just a personal opinion which every person on the website is allowed to have. I was simply pointing out that while Gen IV-Gen V didn't
have to change the sprites due to being on the same hardware, yet they did and even added full animations to them, which in turn helped the games feel fresh, while what we've seen so far of Gen VII, the older pokemon being essentially unchanged in terms of their animations and poses is slightly disappointing in comparison. Nothing more, nothing less.
I'm also not the only one pointing this out as well. Folks on Pokemon's Twitter, Facebook and Youtube comment sections are scratching their heads and theorizing what this means. Heck, some folks even took it as a confirmation that Pokemon Amie would return (Which while I wouldn't get how that would be... Having Articuno in that mode again would be fine with me.) It's literally the most minor of all the complaints i've had so far so if that classifies as bitching, I'd love to hear your word for the folks grumpy about this not being "Pokemon DX with seven regions HD graphics and a gazillion gym leaders"
sometimes I miss the top down perspective of the older games
I love the top-down perspective a lot! I feel like each gen I've played had it's own feels to it graphics wise. Gen 3 felt tropical, Gen 4 felt mountainous, Gen 5 felt city-like, and Gen 6 felt pretty beautiful when it comes to all the different types of grass and such.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7cW0F4JMsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeZ_8s_kWXg
I want Zygarde 100% Form so badly now!
(Plus the piano in that battle theme!)
How about spoiler tags,,,,that would be lovely
Oops, sorry forgot dat.
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What do you think of these?
I will protect these new Pokemon with my life.
I really like their designs! They're pretty good! Feels pokemon-y as well as animal-y.
so, digital houndoom?
the rockdog looks pretty cool and I guess rock types are gonna be pretty prevalent
Aaaand there's already a plush of the rockdog on auction....... (How do artists work so fast!?!?)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231976104222?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Zygarde Weapon looks pretty awesome. Interesting how they're doing the new form of a 6th Gen Pokemon in Gen 7 (and we finally see Thousand Arrows/Waves), and interesting how it appears to be activated by an ability, like Zen Mode (though hopefully better...). Nekkoala's ability seems like it could be pretty OP also (gonna love to use it in Hackmons, that's for sure).
The new abilities for the new pokemon seem like it's going to be very useful in competitive battling. (but don't take advice from me, I don't battle competitively)
^meh only the koala and legends' abilities seem good, but the koala's ability definitely ain't "overpowered"
and bds why would you run the koala's ability in hackmons when you have magic bounce/guard or poison heal for utility/walls
Quote from: Waddle Bro on June 12, 2016, 08:20:14 AMand bds why would you run the koala's ability in hackmons when you have magic bounce/guard or poison heal for utility/walls
Magic Bounce doesn't have immunity to Toxic Spikes or status inflicted as effect of moves (a concern with No Guard attackers).
Magic Guard doesn't
prevent status, especially in regards to paralysis, attack drop from burn, and freeze (never hurts to have RNG insurance! :P).
Poison Heal is vulnerable to Gastro Acid + Infestation/Thousand Waves combo, and requires a Toxic Orb (Trick sets are fun to use, but take up a valuable moveslot and are vulnerable to exploitation by Imposter late game). A bit of a stretch, yes, but either way, I'm not saying it would replace Poison Heal, or any of the other abilities.
Definite Sleep + Safety Goggles/Sleep Talk (Sleep Talk might be an interesting option if you also want a more useful item) covers, I assume, all status effects (possibly including volatile status, if we're to trust that the wording of it suggests that the ability does indeed cover all status effects), and if your opponent wants to inflict you with status, they have to negate the ability, THEN inflict status, which gives you a little bit more leeway in some situations.
i hardly know the tier so i can just imagine what's popular there, tho you shouldn't go applying these gimmicky sets based on current meta since the meta is definitely going to change with the new games
theorizing is still fun i get it
but tbh your explanations for the bounce/guard sound a bit cherry picking imo, m-guard removes all hazard(which p-heal can't but the recovery though) and secondary effect problem the far superior bounce could have, just the benefits of magic bounce should give enough reason to run it imo over status protection
imo the only reason to pick definite sleep over m-guard would be paralysis(since if you run magic guard highly doubt you're there to attack) and tbh i doubt paralysis is even a common thing in hackmons(outside of maybe occasional zap cannon in balanced) when you could have a sleep move and then there's magic bounce, and i bet heal bell is popular as well
also why run trick w/ orb that's waste of a moveslot tbh
lastly shoutouts giratina god bless played some hackmon games this one time in fifth gen and just slapped three giratinas, blissey, deoxys and a regigigas on a team
defenders of god realm
Quote from: Waddle Bro on June 12, 2016, 05:52:54 PMi hardly know the tier so i can just imagine what's popular there, tho you shouldn't go applying these gimmicky sets based on current meta since the meta is definitely going to change with the new games
theorizing is still fun i get it
Gimmicky? A lot of the things I mentioned are at least somewhat common (No Guard attackers were on the rise the last time I played, and I even used one myself; then again, it seems they recently unbanned Red/Blue Orbs, so that may have been quashed :P).
Quotebut tbh your explanations for the bounce/guard sound a bit cherry picking imo, m-guard removes all hazard(which p-heal can't but the recovery though) and secondary effect problem the far superior bounce could have, just the benefits of magic bounce should give enough reason to run it imo over status protection
Magic Guard doesn't remove hazards, though.
Quoteimo the only reason to pick definite sleep over m-guard would be paralysis(since if you run magic guard highly doubt you're there to attack) and tbh i doubt paralysis is even a common thing in hackmons(outside of maybe occasional zap cannon in balanced) when you could have a sleep move and then there's magic bounce, and i bet heal bell is popular as well
also why run trick w/ orb that's waste of a moveslot tbh
Sacred Fire is common in hackmons (talking about BH, because I haven't really seen anyone talking about pure hackmons since there were some changes to BH in Gen 6), which would give a good reason to use it on an attacker while getting more versatility than other alternatives (possibility of complete status immunity and reducing effects of unfavorable RNG). Heal Bell is also less popular unless you're not using a Pokemon with Poison Heal (between Regigigas/Mega Tyranitar/Yveltal/Slaking/etc. there are a fair amount of great ones to choose from), and would also be more inconvenient to use (plus, as I said, there's a chance it might also block volatile status, so there's that as well).
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 12, 2016, 06:52:03 PMGimmicky? A lot of the things I mentioned are at least somewhat common (No Guard attackers were on the rise the last time I played, and I even used one myself; then again, it seems they recently unbanned Red/Blue Orbs, so that may have been quashed :P).
nah i meant the definite sleep+safety goggles thing
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 12, 2016, 06:52:03 PMMagic Guard doesn't remove hazards, though.
all hazard dmg problems sry
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 12, 2016, 06:52:03 PMSacred Fire is common in hackmons (talking about BH, because I haven't really seen anyone talking about pure hackmons since there were some changes to BH in Gen 6), which would give a good reason to use it on an attacker while getting more versatility than other alternatives (possibility of complete status immunity and reducing effects of unfavorable RNG). Heal Bell is also less popular unless you're not using a Pokemon with Poison Heal (between Regigigas/Mega Tyranitar/Yveltal/Slaking/etc. there are a fair amount of great ones to choose from), and would also be more inconvenient to use (plus, as I said, there's a chance it might also block volatile status, so there's that as well).
point was how burn wouldn't be a problem at all with a wall/utility m-guard user, rather beneficial since it prevents worse status like sleep. if moves like sacred fire, steam eruption or even inferno are that popular, it just means it's better to have m-guard to prevent the status
also i'll give you my left kidney if it blocks volatile status(outside of confusion)
you can quote this and hold me on it if necessary
Quote from: Waddle Bro on June 12, 2016, 07:25:24 PMnah i meant the definite sleep+safety goggles thing
Safety Goggles isn't gimmicky at all. Spore is everywhere in hackmons.
Quotepoint was how burn wouldn't be a problem at all with a wall/utility m-guard user, rather beneficial since it prevents worse status like sleep. if moves like sacred fire, steam eruption or even inferno are that popular, it just means it's better to have m-guard to prevent the status
But Definite Sleep would completely prevent the status in the first place, though, which is especially helpful on something that doesn't want to be burned, but isn't really bulky enough to run Poison Heal.
My thoughts on what was shown at E3:
-Music is a major improvement from X/Y, on par with ORAS's great soundtrack.
-The free movement really shows in just the first moments of gameplay, which looks nice and gives the game a new perspective
-They FINALLY touched up the battle menu after three generations of it being the same. It now has a cleaner, more simpler interface on the bottom screen while it displays the level changes for stats (Such as how moves like growl and calm mind effect the pokemon) Top screen still uses the same 3D models as X/Y/ORAS, and sadly nothing has been confirmed on if they fixed the 3D effect in battle.
-Trainers of ALL kinds are behind their pokemon, even the generic Lass and Youngsters. Really helps make the game feel more like a breathing world
-Speaking of which, the theme of the games is "Life", apparently.
-New Pokemon shown off look meh, but the new bird looks adorable
-Pokemon appear in battle in a way similar to their Pokedex size. Meaning if you get a giant pokemon it'll likely dwarf your trainer and if you have a small pokemon like the starters it'll be noticeable. Fierce Dunsparce Vs Salamence Megazord battles confirmed
-New director in charge for Sun/Moon, the same one behind ORAS. Whether that's a good or bad thing for the difficulty remains to be seen. (Since some folks blame him and only him for the lowered difficulty in ORAS, although I think blaming it all on one person is a bit much)
-The Battle Dome returns in a new way, via a new multiplayer mode called Battle Royal. A four player winner takes all battle that looks like a TON of fun!
Really, that's all my major thoughts on the game itself for now. Still cautious of course, but a bit more hopeful due to how pretty everything is looking
My god, everything looks great.
Battle Royale is very cool, much better idea than triple or rotation
Thoughts
-Battle and gameplay changes seem nice, making things more efficient.
-Pikipek is pretty interesting, especially with... SKILL LINK!? A woodpecker with Skill Link is pretty clever/funny, and it actually seems pretty cool that they're offering abilities for early-game Pokemon that might make them not completely mediocre (see: Talonflame and Diggersby). I wonder if they'll keep it as Normal/Flying or give it another type (Grass? I hope not!).
-Yungoos looks kind of creepy, but its new ability is probably my #1 most wanted ability. Stakeout seems like it could be powerful in the right hands (punishing switches? Screw you, stall! :P).
-Grubbin is cute for a Bug-type (almost reminds me of Karrablast in a good way), but it's probably going to be pretty weak (but might evolve into an Electric/Bug type, if its description is actually relevant?). D:
-Soul Heart is a doubles-only ability (or am I just misunderstanding it?), which is kind of eh, but still has potential (as long as Magearna isn't, like, a glass cannon or something). Also I find it rather hilarious that they used Fleur Cannon on a Pokemon 4x weak to Fairy (that arm cannon though...).
-Is there anything else special about Radiant Sun/Full Moon Phase?
-Battle Royal looks interesting. Explosion is probably going to be a potent move in this mode, especially if you're in the lead and want to end the battle.
Ugh, it bugs me that no one's noticing that in the stream, when he was fighting Hau, it said that Popplio's disarming voice was not very effective against the pure fire type Litten. Also the fact that while the player was talking to Hala before the ceremony, he mentioned that all four islands have its own guardian legend. This means that there will likely be four main legendaries instead of the customary trio of three, but then again they mentioned that Zygarde will have a story, meaning that he may be one of the island guardians.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on June 14, 2016, 06:45:33 PMUgh, it bugs me that no one's noticing that in the stream, when he was fighting Hau, it said that Popplio's disarming voice was not very effective against the pure fire type Litten.
Fire resists fairy...
Quote from: Altissimo on June 14, 2016, 06:47:34 PMFire resists fairy...
(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Jackie-Chan-WTF.jpg)
...but why?
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on June 14, 2016, 06:45:33 PMall four islands have its own guardian legend
Did someone say...? (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pmh6056U0Nw/maxresdefault.jpg)
Quote from: Altissimo on June 14, 2016, 06:47:34 PMFire resists fairy...
Wow, I didn't know that; this just shows how much we actually needed this effectiveness feature XD
What's the point of having a customization feature if none of the customizable characters look like me
I hope you can fix hair styles/eye color later on in the game, like you could in Kalos.
SEVEN NEW POKÉMON REVEALED (http://m.imgur.com/a/nonr8)
Quite frankly, I've seen fan-art better than these.
That electric porcupine is amazing though! Much better than the fish...
THE BUG/FAIRY IS MY FRIEND AND I LOVE IT AND WILL PROTECT IT FOREVER
They're trying to Hawaii too hard.
Was Caterpie stuck in one of those vehicle crushing machines??
Also, still wating on my grass/electric...
Mid evolution bug has nothing compared to the epicness of mouthless Spewpa
Although I do love the Gradius evolution
Yungoos master race still in effect. Although Vikavolt looks pretty cool. The rest are...ehhh...
Drampa and Bruxish have some serious design issues; they look more at home in Yokai Watch than here.
...I-is that a bus?
I'm not exactly a (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2F6%2F64%2F479Rotom-Fan.png&hash=d68b4a6900cd8b747bf68a59ec16137b9b4188e2) of the new ones. I mean, there's no (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2F0%2F05%2F492Shaymin-Land.png&hash=374011eb4aadfdaf818cbc8178aad76b85ddece8) liking them, but they're just not my thing. I (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fc%2Fca%2F153Bayleef.png&hash=df086a7036259744a0fa8002b8b1fbc1d85ebd35) they unveil something that I might like a bit more later, though.
... I shouldn't (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2F7%2F7c%2F089Muk.png&hash=cc55c7a9b284f1873cdeb914a90214fbe269db43) around like that...
what's the third one
Bayleef = Believe
(I think)
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- The first one (Tapu Koko?) is probably my favorite; its art is a bit "eh," but it looks much better when actually in battle.
- Bug Bus is funny, but still weird. Vikavolt is good, though (and we get to see the evolution animation for this gen?), like an Electric Heracross.
- Drampa: NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE. Normal/Dragon is a pretty interesting type, however. Reminds me of a hippie Druddigon (or maybe it's... trying to be... square? Because... normal type?).
- I actually don't hate Bruxish. It's kind of an endearing ugly, almost, or like it's supposed to be that way, without being too off-putting. I mean, as long as it has better stats than Luvdisc (and does its ability prevent priority!?!? Serebii says there's a new ability that does that, apparently!)...
- Waiting to see what Cutiefly becomes before I judge it. I got suckered into that trap with Spritzee last time around...
- Togedemaru: REV UP THOSE AIR BALLOONS. Electric/Steel type... thing? Is it this generation's Pikaclone?
- Also of note: Regular Zygarde likely gets its new ability also (somehow? Hidden Ability, perhaps?), which seems to restore about 25% of HP as well (just a rough guess).
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I love all the new ones idk what you guys are complaining about
The only one I could see hating on is Charjabug but even that one has such a ridiculous silly design that I burst out laughing, so I'm kind of endeared to it. Cutiefly is adorable and the name made me laugh.
The rest are cool, I love Tapu Koko and Drampa and I'm cautiously interested in Togedemaru (I wish it was less round, but that's all right). Bruxish surprised me, they've never used such psychedelic colors on a single Pokémon before. And Vikavolt? Come on, that's a candidate for coolest Bug-Type Pokémon already.
Sun and Moon are looking great, you guys!
(As a side note, I didn't love the battle music played in this new trailer. I hope it's the Wild Pokémon theme, those are always the least good.)
half of them look like the designers were high tbh
While you were all preoccupied with Pokemon Go...
REV UP THOSE AIR BALLOONS.
I LOVE IT
Everything will die to the Toxic stall. (sinister laughter intensifies)
I can't wait to deal with being poisoned all the time as it's quite obvious the evil team will be using Salandit. #Obvioussarcasmisobvious
I really love it's ability, and it's typing seems fun too. I'll probably still go with all the cute Pokemon though, so I might not use it.
I love this Pokémon.
I just hope they leave some surprises for us.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on July 08, 2016, 06:09:48 AMI just hope they leave some surprises for us.
I wouldn't bet on that. Either Game Freak will once again reveal everything before launch (like with ORAS) or folks from the smaller regions will break the street date and leak everything again. :( Hopefully neither happens, but I'm sorta fearing the latter will happen again even with the delay in EU to prevent that.
Boy, you guys are really distracted by Pokemon Go...
QuoteThe first images from CoroCoro have leaked and have revealed the latest news on Sun & Moon. As always, do note that translations are preliminary while we work on them. The bear is called Kiteruguma and is Normal/Fighting with the abilities Fluffy and Klutz, while the ghost is Mimicu and is Ghost/Fairy. It has the ability called False Colours.
http://www.serebii.net/corocoro8161.jpg
http://www.serebii.net/corocoro8162.jpg
http://www.serebii.net/corocoro8163.jpg
People in Alola are scared of Kiteruguma to the point of having warning signs about it. It is really strong and can break anything in two. It likes to hug its trainers but is strong. Raising one puts your life in danger.
Mimikkyu hates sunlight, preferring dark places. It is rumoured that the cloth covering its body is a strategy to avoid the sun. Don't try to remove the cloth it is said that those that do become afflicted with an illness. Mimicu's costume is based on Pikachu merch that was popular 20 years ago. It wants to be loved by people like Pikachu is.
Mimicu sound pretty great so far!
I LOVE MY NEW GHOST FRIEND
Same :') it's already one of my all time faves
I don't even like pokemon and mimicu is great.
So, does this mean Mimicu either didn't exist until after Pikachu, or had a different cloth until it obtained the Pikachu one... and somehow bred it with all the other Mimicu...
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on July 12, 2016, 04:57:34 PMSo, does this mean Mimicu either didn't exist until after Pikachu, or had a different cloth until it obtained the Pikachu one... and somehow bred it with all the other Mimicu...
I assume it was just an ordinary, lonely ghost until it saw that Pikachu was popular ~20 years ago, then it tried to copy Pikachu with... varying degrees of success...?
Oh... This happened.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j97RhIzTuiE
NEW TRAILER, HOT OFF THE PRESS! NEW POKEMON! BETTER LOOKS AT OTHER REVEALED POKEMON!
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DAT BUG/WATER TRILOBITE. WOO.
GENERIC LOOKING FRUIT POKEMON!? I CAN BUY IT.
LEI POKEMON!? PRETTY NEAT. MAYBE BETWEEN THESE TWO THERE'LL BE AT LEAST ONE GRASS/FAIRY TYPE.
GROUND TYPE BATTLE HORSE... THING? OK, SURE.
wait why am i typing in all caps am i really getting this excited over a little trailer
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Quote from: SerebiiEdit @ 14:02: Some new Pokémon have been revealed: Wimpod which is Bug/Water with the ability Wimp Out which when this Pokémon's HP drops below half in battle, it will run away or swap out for another Pokémon., Bounsweet which is Grass with Leaf Guard & Oblivous, Comfey, Fairy-type with Flower Veil and Triage, which makes restorative moves gain the highest priority in battle., Mudsdale which is Ground with the abilities Own Tempo & Stamina which increases the Pokémon's Defense goes up by 1 when it's hit by an attack.. Mimkyu keeps its Japanese name and its ability Disguise which allows it to escape damage from an enemy's attack just one time, and then its appearance changes.. The bear Pokémon is called Bewear. Its ability Fluffy halves the damage taken from attacks that make direct contact, but in return it also doubles the damage taken from Fire-type moves.
You can also host your own competitions on the Pokémon Global Link
A new mode called Hyper Training is announced. With Hyper Training, Pokémon that have grown to Lv. 100 will be able to increase their individual strengths, which has never been possible before. It utilises Bottle Caps as an item in order to boost the stats. Magearna will be given one when distributed.
-I'm pretty hyped over Wimpod's typing, which I really really hope it keeps. Its ability could be great if it allows you to choose which Pokemon you swap out to (think: U-Turn)... or it could be very bad. I know one thing: It's going to be a pain to catch...!
-Bounsweet seems kind of generic, like a cross between Cherubi and Jumpluff. Its abilities don't give me much more hope.
-Comfey seems interesting. I wonder if its new ability will just be a more limited form of Prankster, or if it will make restorative moves have
the highest priority, if you catch my drift.
-Mudsdale's gonna be a tank (it kind of reminds me of Weak Armor, except it raises defense, and doesn't have any downsides). OOOOOOOO yeah!
-Mimikyu's ability seems like it could be insanely overpowered if it doesn't only work exclusively with Mimikyu, or doesn't have some form of limitation (like, does it reset upon switching out?). I mean, being able to
avoid damage for a whole turn!? Wow.
-Fluffy seems... like an interesting ability. Also, Bewear is an 11/10 name. is just great
-Hyper Training...? Oooh. Me like the sound of this.
I'm liking the new pokemon as they fit the Alola region perfectly, but my problem is that they don't seem to be able to fit in any other region. I guess they could be in pokemon safaris or tropical areas, otherwise most of them don't fit.
I honestly consider a lot of the new Pokemon save for the starters and the Vikavolt line to be the ugliest I have seen. Wimpod has an amusing cry though, while Comfey and Bounsweet look OK at best IMO. I guess after liking nearly every Pokemon in Gen VI (Save for two, the Binacle line) it's only natural that Gen VII would be the one where I dislike nearly every Pokemon. Hopefully we get good looking ones soon...
I dislike the looks of them too, but thinking about how this region is drastically different from everything we've seen, it only makes sense for the pokemon to be drastically different.
I'm honestly surprised by the amount of new abilities being introduced. Like, there's a lot more than I'd expect.
ISOPOD POKEMON!!!!
https://youtu.be/3AZHowhxM0U
I am screaming.
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i laughed at mega exeggutor (not necessarily in a bad way) but then i was yelling in hype when i saw ice forms and the rest of it
These alola forms look lazy af. Are they going to be mega evolutions or just region-deferent versions (like shellos)? Those types are the exact opposite for some of them.
Also lol at the trump otter thing evolving.
I'll be getting that mantis btw.
THIS LOOKS AMAZING. Although I don't get the Z-attacks.
The Alola forms are cool. Actual animals vary by type and species depending on the part of the world so this makes sense to me. Also it's a good way to revisit old Pokémon and make them feel fresh, rather than just make a clone. (Don't ask me why Exeggutor's Alola form is Grass-Dragon though.)
I'm not sold on a couple of the new Pokémon yet (the only good thing about Gumshoos is its name), but eh. The lack of gym battles in this game makes for an interesting, new structure, and it looks like this will be the most weird or deviant games yet, so I'm excited.
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- DRAGON EXEGGUTOR IS BEST PALM TREE. But that ability is pretty mediocre...
- Ice Ninetales is amazing. No Snow Warning, though? That would have gone along so perfectly with its other form's ability and Ice Sandslash.
- Ice/Steel Sandslash is perfect and I will embrace all the Fire-type and Fighting-type attacks for you~ <3 <3 <3
- Oricorio is a cheerleader/dancer bird 'Mon and that's just great. I WANT TO MAKE A GIF OF THAT SPECTACULAR CHEERLEADING ROUTINE WOO.
- Minior seems like the right way to do a form-changing ability (looking at you, Zen Mode Darmanitan), and I hope they don't mess it up. Also design-wise, it seems like a better version of Solrock/Lunatone.
- Gumshoos is fair, though it definitely looks like a caricature of a... certain someone.
- Formantis/Lurantis look decent, but why Leaf Guard? That only serves to make it even more unexceptional!!!
- Mudbray/Mudsdale for Skiddo/Gogoat of Gen VII confirmed. Riding Pokemon seems fun though (and Charizard too?!?!).
- The Island Challenge seems like an interesting new concept, and the Trial Captains seem more personalized/unique than Gym Leaders. The Totem Pokemon seem interesting as well; I wonder if you can catch them as more powerful alternatives to regular Pokemon, or if they just serve as boss battle-esque encounters like Kyurem in Black 2/White 2.
- Kahunas? Boy, they're just layering on the boss-like encounters. I wonder if there will even be Gym Leaders at this rate? :P
- Z-Moves are pretty much Pokemon Limit Breaks? I wonder if this is in-game only or if this will add a whole new aspect to competitive battling. Oooh. I hope they add a higher difficulty mode so things don't get too easy, what with Mega Evolutions, Exp. Share, AND Z-Moves. also bloom doom for best name
Also:
http://i.imgur.com/ZtyEVen.gifv
@BDS it's already confirmed no gyms in this game
Hmm, that's rather unfortunate, but it will probably help keep things interesting, both in terms of gameplay and character design. Anyway, it seems that Alolan Exeggutor is now the second-tallest Pokemon. Yikes.
Darn, Gyms were pretty much my favorite part of the games... Hopefully Gen 8
I LOVE the new Sandslash and Ninetales line variants!
Oricorio has potential to wreck in competitive with that ability.
I've been waiting to hear about the Z-Moves and they seem interesting, but they're just not selling it for me (maybe Gumshoos can help with it's excellent bargaining skills).
I like how they're making this game different, but I hope they do it right like BW and don't go overboard.
I don't care about any new stuff, I'm just going to use sky attack rhydon in online battles for kicks
I am completely obsessed with Gumshoos. Don't ask me why; I won't be able to give a good answer. I'm sold on everything else except Alolan Exeggutor (seriously, you could do a lot of things with a three-headed palm tree including giving it arms and you just make its neck ten feet long). Hype.
I love the new bird, meteor, and mantis Pokemon. Oh my gosh.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 01, 2016, 03:15:59 PMI'm sold on everything else except Alolan Exeggutor (seriously, you could do a lot of things with a three-headed palm tree including giving it arms and you just make its neck ten feet long).
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cox4ylbUEAAGBR9.jpg:large)
Ten feet long? Ha! :P The whole thing is 35'09" which makes it taller than every single legendary Pokemon ever (barely beating out Mega Rayquaza by a couple of inches, and losing only to Wailord; imagine a
PRIMAL GROUDON that isn't even half its height). Also, this fanart is good. (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/153/950/76b.png)
My on cue rant of the new gen: If they take out gyms, I'm gonna flip and not in a good way. I think the whole island challenge thing is awesome, but it's no substitute.
Z-moves look so complicated, and not in a "oh that's interesting" kind of way (like mega evolution), more like "oh that's awful".
just my opinion pls don't hurt me.
also i love the birbs they look so cute 10/10
The birbs are great and I love them so much
SWEET MERCIFUL CRAP I didn't realize Exeggutor was that tall. O_o will the Trainers be real size in comparison to their Pokémon in battle? Because what if there's a throwdown of Titans between two Wailords?
Quote from: JDMEK5 on August 01, 2016, 05:11:32 PMIf they take out gyms, I'm gonna flip and not in a good way. I think the whole island challenge thing is awesome, but it's no substitute.
I
ditto that JDMEK.
Sorry, I'll stop
emboring you with these
absolutly horrible puns.
But on a serious note, more news is coming August 12th at 10am JST apparently.
I don't understand the internet. People have been bitching and moaning for years about how the Gym system is old and tiring, and now that they're changing it and pushing the boundaries of what a Pokemon game can be people still complain.
Also I kinda hate Alolan Exeggutor for no discernable reason. It just looks super dumb. I'm all down for Alolan Ninetales tho
I can explain this complaining: you can't please everyone. :/
I haven't heard anyone complaining about gyms
That's kind of the main point of the game lol
Yeah I don't know why anyone would complain about the gyms. I mean, if they did scrap gyms in this game I'm sure I could still grow to love it but it isn't exactly what I would've liked to see.
They're pretty much the point of the game
Getting rid of them sounds like too much change
TONS of people complain about gyms, because it's part of what ties Pokémon down to the same structure it's had since 1996. I'm actually happy it's getting changed up.
I'm interested to see how well GF conducts this game. How well they tie things together. Because, as Noc said, this concept radically changes the central focus of the game, so it could either work really well, or go down in flames.
I'm all for interesting changes, so I'm down for this idea.
Random thought: 10 bucks says Gumshoos is Detective Pikachu's sinister counterpart or rival in Legendary's Detective Pikachu movie.
Oh goodness... I don't know if I'd like it or hate it! XD
Plot twist: Pikachu is the antagonist trying to cover up tracks by acting as a detective trying to find the perpetrator of the crime he committed, and no one sees through him, aside from Gumshoos. Which is why Gumshoos and Pikachu have enmity.
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on August 04, 2016, 01:49:01 PMPlot twist: Pikachu is the antagonist trying to cover up tracks by acting as a detective trying to find the perpetrator of the crime he committed, and no one sees through him, aside from Gumshoos. Which is why Gumshoos and Pikachu have enmity.
Directed by M. Night Shyamalan.
Plot for Detective Pikachu sequel confirmed.
On a completely unrelated note, I'm going to do wild mass guessing and predict that Sun and Moon will reveal that Pokémon takes place on a post-apocalyptic Earth. And the obligatory PMD game will explain what happened to the humans.
O_o whoa. That would be wild. How would the Trainers be there, then? Apocalypse survivors?
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on August 08, 2016, 10:46:11 AMOn a completely unrelated note, I'm going to do wild mass guessing and predict that Sun and Moon will reveal that Pokémon takes place on a post-apocalyptic Earth.
Directed by M. Night Shyamalan.I don't know, though; nothing about any of the games seems "post-apocalyptic," especially in prospering regions like Unova. "Post-war," maybe (which is a popular fan theory), but definitely not past something
that catastrophic.
There's a globe of Earth in the player's bedroom, though, so make of that what you will.
Plot twist: that actually isn't Earth, but another "Goldilocks" planet with intelligent life forms living on it, including Pokémon.
Occam's Razor, I suppose.
Plot twist: our reality exists as video games in the Pokémon world.
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on August 09, 2016, 04:07:28 AMPlot twist: our reality exists as video games in the Pokémon world.
Those would be some really boring video games lol.
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I love sand castle Pokemon. He is a friend. My friend.
Quote from: Nebbles on August 09, 2016, 04:37:46 PMSpoiler
I love sand castle Pokemon. He is a friend. My friend.
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I love the shovel sticking out of its head!
And Alolan Marowak is incredible. I think I was Alolan Marowak in a past life.
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I'm going to go out on a stretch and say that there will be something to do with an Alolan meowth and a certain Team Rocket member in the next season of the anime.
Anyways I like Alola Marowak and the Sandcastle! Can't say much for the fish... creature... thing...
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I'm just glad that there's now a butthole pokemon
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Quote from: Clanker37 on August 10, 2016, 03:51:10 AMSpoiler
I'm just glad that there's now a butthole pokemon
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Quote from: SerebiiThis Pokémon is called Namakobushi and is said to be able to send its insides out from its mouth and use as a fist.
Quote from: Serebiiis said to be able to send its insides out from its mouth and use as a fist.
Quote from: Serebiisend its insides out from its mouth and use as a fist.
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oh lawd
So the entire trailer is leaking on the internet via 4chan via pictures.
I was hoping that TPCI/Game Freak wouldn't be so stupid to let China get their own division for translation purposes, but I guess they really are that dumb. Why am I blaming the Chinese localization team? Well since all the languages are packed into every version of the game worldwide, they could easily leak the English names/trailers/etc for the game, and considering their horrible track record for keeping popular stuff secret, there you go. Mark my words, than a month before launch someone will leak the entire game and cause the entire country to get month long delays as a consequence.
USUALLY I'd be angry about this, but honestly considering my resentment for the series I hope they reveal as much info on the game's balance/content as possible so I can determine whether $40 is a fair price for the game, since the Gen VI games already hit the $30 range.
Yup, I ain't going on Serebii again until Friday! But since I've already seen this I may as well share my opinion...
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(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serebii.net%2Fraichu.jpg&hash=003203621dc7ebeaa3d3d7f5d77b00eff238d4a9)
If this is Raichu... What's Pikachu going to become?
Quote from: DocDoom2 on August 10, 2016, 03:41:35 PMYup, I ain't going on Serebii again until Friday! But since I've already seen this I may as well share my opinion...
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(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serebii.net%2Fraichu.jpg&hash=003203621dc7ebeaa3d3d7f5d77b00eff238d4a9)
If this is Raichu... What's Pikachu going to become?
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Don't forget about Pichu. :P Why does everyone forget about Pichu?
Not gonna lie though, I do hope that the inevitable Aloha Persian looks cool and will be a good dark-type user. Aloha Meowth, typing aside looks a bit generic to me, seeming as if they just drowned a smug one in purple makeup. I liked Sandslash/Sandshrew's edits, along with Ninetales so they can do it right instead of making it a color swap.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on August 10, 2016, 03:57:18 PMSpoiler
Don't forget about Pichu. :P Why does everyone forget about Pichu?
Pichu is a horrible Pokemon that shouldnt exist thats why. I hate it.
Quote from: Altissimo on August 10, 2016, 04:17:11 PMPichu is a horrible Pokemon that shouldnt exist thats why. I hate it.
fite me
ok
sorry im just a huge pikachu fan and so i have issues with pichu based on principle
Quote from: Altissimo on August 10, 2016, 04:17:11 PMPichu is a horrible Pokemon that shouldnt exist thats why. I hate it.
What did you say? LET'S TAKE THIS OUT IN THE STREETS
now you know how I feel about a lot of these new pokemon
ill fite you too
Pichu is adorable. I love it and all the other baby Pokémon (especially Smoochum and Igglybuff and Mime Jr.) and anyone who doesn't is completely heartless. I'm prepared to fight someone over this point.
Also best smash character.
He's so good his moves hurt himself.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 10, 2016, 05:02:49 PMPichu is adorable. I love it and all the other baby Pokémon (especially Smoochum and Igglybuff and Mime Jr.) and anyone who doesn't is completely heartless. I'm prepared to fight someone over this point.
i just hate pichu, not the rest
WHY ITS SO CUTE AND LOVABLE ALSO HAVE YOU SEEN THE SPIKY EARED PICHU
urgh don't remind me of the stupid choice GF made to not let you transfer it to Gen V and onwards... Forever trapped in Johto
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 10, 2016, 05:02:49 PMIgglybuff
ewwwwww
Also, there's no guarantee we'll be getting either an Alolan Pikachu or Pichu (unless I've missed something). Regardless, I'm glad they're giving Raichu some attention, and Electric/Psychic is a pretty interesting type.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 10, 2016, 07:02:19 PMWHY ITS SO CUTE AND LOVABLE ALSO HAVE YOU SEEN THE SPIKY EARED PICHU
i have issues with it on principle because i am a pikachu fan ok
PIKACHU ALSO LOVES PICHU YOU CAN LOVE THEM BOTH I LOVE THEM BOTH
sry no
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4x4fnj/the_leaks_are_real_vid_proof/
There's a little bit more stuff here, including videos.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on August 10, 2016, 03:57:18 PMSpoiler
Don't forget about Pichu. :P Why does everyone forget about Pichu?
Dang I'm so sorry I forgot about it! I'm not into the baby Pokemon, the only one I kinda like is Riolu (if my memory serves correctly it is a baby pokemon, right?)
I always thought a Mega Raichu (which I figured wouldn't happen) would be Electric-Fighting if anything. But hey new type combos are always appreciated!
Oh on a side note I just finished the Pokedex in Alpha Sapphire! :D
Quote from: DocDoom2 on August 10, 2016, 11:10:48 PMthe only one I kinda like is Riolu (if my memory serves correctly it is a baby pokemon, right?)
Nope, Riolu's a standard pre-evolution. A Pokémon's a baby if you can only breed it when one of the parents is holding a specific incense.
^ You don't need an incense for the Gen 2 babies... and Riolu is in the Undiscovered egg group...
Speaking of which, can you please finally change Nidorina and Nidoqueen's egg group this gen, Game Freak?
Quote from: Dudeman on August 10, 2016, 11:13:13 PMNope, Riolu's a standard pre-evolution. A Pokémon's a baby if you can only breed it when one of the parents is holding a specific incense.
lol wtf kinda definition is that, that is absolutely not true
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Okay, so apparently the new evil team is a gang who's members rap while battling and haven't learned anything from Team Rocket about using Zubats...
wow, the ENTIRE trailer was actually leaked this time around. I will say though that the team's theme song is surprisingly catchy...
In other news, people are trying to get Harambe the gorilla made into a pokemon. (http://www.gamnesia.com/news/thousands-of-people-are-petitioning-nintendo-to-make-harambe-into-a-pokemon)
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QuoteHarambe is my favorite Donkey Kong 64 character
He has no style
He has no grace
This Kong got shot in the face
people are still arguing over the gorilla who did a natural reaction of defense to a dumb kid wait what
Why doesn't the public realize that the gorilla wasn't evil
Unless that's the point of this meme?
In really depressing news, (IMO, more sad than the realization of no Battle frontier in ORAS) the Pokemon World Championships will refuse access to anyone who isn't a competitor or relative due to some BS excuse that "demand is overwhelming", but I can sense from a mile away that its because those terrorists from my home state almost caused a tragedy last year. Shameful that they announced it so close to the competition date, (It's next week) as by this point thousands of spectators will have burned thousands of dollars they can't get back.
I'd call it a deceiving scam if it wasn't for the true reality that they're doing this for more safety and security, which I understand, although I'm very angry they won't just admit "Hey, to prevent any creepy terrorists from committing an attack we're keeping this event extra safe." since anyone with a brain can figure out that's the real reason. And as others are wondering, why didn't they tell folks this earlier? Like how about when those two got arrested? Would have saved everyone the money and headaches.
[snip]
Quote from: Maelstrom on August 11, 2016, 11:58:14 AMIn other news, people are trying to get Harambe the gorilla made into a pokemon. (http://www.gamnesia.com/news/thousands-of-people-are-petitioning-nintendo-to-make-harambe-into-a-pokemon)
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dicks out for harambe
Ever heard of Poe's Law?
Also, here's how someone on a YouTube comment explained Wishiwashi's Schooling ability.
QuoteThey will ride on the backs of Magikarps, travel the rivers of Alola and learn the great power of teleportation all in the span of 5 seconds.
EDIT: And the same person's response to the idea of Pyukumuku becoming a pseudo-legendary.
QuoteAfter being enraged for many generations of it's life, it became a dragon to obliterate all of humanity in it's path causing it to be popular among ace trainers.
Quote from: Bubbles on August 11, 2016, 12:57:42 PMdicks out for harambe
this is ridiculous and needs to stop
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 15, 2016, 12:35:41 PMthis is ridiculous and needs to stop
trying to silence me just like you silenced my man harambe
damn
bubbles ily
Fanmade Alolan Gastly/Haunter/Gengar. Not official, but pretty awesome. (https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4y008b/made_my_own_alolas_gastly_haunter_and_gengar/)
Oh my gosh, I've completely forgotten about tikis. I can't wait to see what Game Freak does with them (they can't just not use a tiki as an inspiration). These fan-mons are pretty cool too, though I much prefer Tiki Gengar to the dream catchers.
Is it bad that the fanmade tiki ghosts make me think of Moana?
Also, remember the strange souvenir? Maybe there will be an official tiki Pokémon after all.
http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/pokemon-event-at-gamestop-on-8-20
I wonder what they mean by art cards?
ignore everything else
turn your attention to terminator turtle
[8/18/16, 9:08:20 AM] Dudeman: KAHM WIT ME IF U WANT TO LIEV
[8/18/16, 9:08:40 AM] Dudeman: GRALRALRALRALRAL
[8/18/16, 10:41:51 AM] Nebbles: 10/10 best name
[8/18/16, 10:42:08 AM] Dudeman: GET TO DA CHOPPA
[8/18/16, 10:42:33 AM] Dudeman: AHL BE BAKH
[8/18/16, 10:43:00 AM] Dudeman: I CANNOT SELF-TURTONATE
FRICKING FINALLY do we get a badass Pokemon for Gen VII. That's a really cool one, I wonder if it'll be an island guardian? Much better compared to the crap we've had the past few weeks...
Finally got the Fire-Dragon Bower-esk Pokemon I dreamed of...
Still waiting on my dolphin Pokemon.
Wait a second, in the world of pokemon where there are no turtles except for pokemon that look like turtles, how do the people know it's a turtle?
you're about 20 years late with that one, the pokedex has always classed things as "cat pokemon" etc even when it doesnt really make that much sense in universe. so we dont know
I'm not even 20...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpI0Kb2VYAETMv3.jpg)
Quote from: Bubbles on August 15, 2016, 04:50:58 PMtrying to silence me just like you silenced my man harambe
damn
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/160513893817516032/213966023999619072/harambememe.png)
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on August 19, 2016, 06:02:17 AMWait a second, in the world of pokemon where there are no turtles except for pokemon that look like turtles, how do the people know it's a turtle?
how do we know the turtle you mean is a turtle, what makes a turtle the turtle
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Crabrawler is my MAN i love him don't fuck with him dude
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkeycdn.theouterhaven.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F08%2FCrabrawler-300x169.jpg&hash=6d999403014166479e5403e6fd7e4efbd0b7b699)
I love Rattatastache and Far Chocobo Snorlax <3 <3 <3
um
that new trailer
in other news they finally made english versions of the Train On trailers and my heart can't take them
I love every single new Pokemon, holy cow.
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Dude, this Type: Null thing has me really interested. Are we gonna see some form of experimental Pokémon now? Did Team Skull maybe get their hands on something like DNA Splicers?
Quote from: Dudeman on September 06, 2016, 03:32:06 PMSpoiler
Dude, this Type: Null thing has me really interested. Are we gonna see some form of experimental Pokémon now? Did Team Skull maybe get their hands on something like DNA Splicers?
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So this is the interesting part. It seems that the Team Skull member Gladion owns Type: Null, and also has the same hair and eye color as not only Lillie, but also the president of the Aether Foundation. I'm assuming they're going to be related somehow. I'm guessing that Gladion either stole Type: Null from the Aether Foundation and is using it against them or was given it and is some sort of double agent.
This plot is getting more and more ridiculous.
Also if you haven't pieced together at this point that UB-01 is literally just Lillie you're probably dead to me.
I don't remember where I was going with this.
Help.
I feel like story is going to be just as good (if not better) as Black and White's story. It probably won't be as emotional, but definitely up there.
Probably nobody cares but Dexio and Sina are back (you know, Sycamore's assistant people who upgraded your Pokédex and stuff). Maybe it's a hint at more Kalos stuff? Or maybe they're just there for more tutorials.
Probably tutorials, considering they remain just as "relevant" as they were in X/Y anyway.
Ah but let's not forget the huge feature of Zygarde in these games.
On yesterday's trailer...
I think the connection between Lillie and UB-01 is too obvious to be a plot twist.What if it's a red herring?
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It's only obvious to those who spoil it themselves. In other words, the people who don't watch youtube videos/ read about Pokemon Sun and Moon will have the awesome surprise of this being a "plot twist"
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What the heck, Game Freak? Why does Japan get all the good trailers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whjpUv9slSQ
I don't think I've been this hyped for a Pokemon game since Black and White.
Damn, that trailer is awesome!
I was listening to the music from that trailer when I came to a realization: that music could possibly be in the game! Honestly, I feel like this song would most likely fit for the credits, as you just beat the main story but the game's telling you there's a whole lot more to see. It could also fit for whatever the equivalent of the champion is in this game as the final battle, or another high point in the story. What do you think? Do you think this song will be used in the game, or forever remain as trailer music?
God, I hope we get music like that in the actual game.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on September 07, 2016, 12:40:46 PMSpoiler
It's only obvious to those who spoil it themselves. In other words, the people who don't watch youtube videos/ read about Pokemon Sun and Moon will have the awesome surprise of this being a "plot twist"
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Several of the hints are already in UB-01's description-- before I viewed the latest Japanese trailer, I already suspected that UB-02 exists and moves like a young boy--and the Aether Foundation looks really shady for supposedly good guys. In particular, Faba looks like a bad guy, not a good guy.
I assume that the music is from what will likely be the Mascot boss battles. Kinda wish the entire game looked as pretty as the CGI renders of the mascots, as that would maybe make me actually excited. Still no interest in this game and it's likely I'll skip it unless leaks/prerelease previews reveal things that will get me engaged.
How are you not interested in this? This game is looking to be the best in a while!
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on September 09, 2016, 01:51:28 PMHow are you not interested in this? This game is looking to be the best in a while!
Having your heart shattered by the previous main entry and seeing folks get excited over a freaking Meowth recolor will do that to you.(yes I know the original never went anywhere and I do like other forms like Sandslash, but they barely did anything to Meowth IMHO) I already spent the money I saved for the Amazon Steelbook on importing Ys VIII anyway, so even if I did want it i could only get one and I'd likely get it used unless a leak convinces me that this game will have replay value to rival Black/White 2.
Listen: it's perfectly fine for you to not want to get the game(s), but the reasons you're using to justify your decisions to others (as if you need to?) are seeming increasingly picky.
Nothing is gonna stop my hype train for Sun/Moon.
Well, I think that this game's going to be great because Game Freak is doing the things that THEY want to do rather than what the FANS want them to do.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on September 09, 2016, 04:20:03 PMWell, I think that this game's going to be great because Game Freak is doing the things that THEY want to do rather than what the FANS want them to do.
^^^^^
I'm so tired of the fanservice. This game looks creative and new.
I don't even play pokemon and that trailer was incredible.
I'm extremely hyped about this game and want to buy it when it comes out... but I don't have money and will have to wait for my parents to get it for christmas :'(
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on September 09, 2016, 06:18:55 PMI'm extremely hyped about this game and want to buy it when it comes out... but I don't have money and will have to wait for my parents to get it for christmas :'(
The only Pokemon game I've ever played was Pokemon Diamond, and even then, I think it was on a ROM. I don't intend on buying Pokemon Sun or Moon, but man, reading about the new Pokemon will be fun!
I've been paying attention to every generation since Pokemon Red and Blue, though.
I'm only getting these for, as I've mentioned many times now, sky attack rhydons
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 09, 2016, 06:08:08 PM^^^^^
I'm so tired of the fanservice. This game looks creative and new.
I'm so happy they're going outside of the box for this game. I can't agree more.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on September 09, 2016, 06:18:55 PMI'm extremely hyped about this game and want to buy it when it comes out... but I don't have money and will have to wait for my parents to get it for christmas :'(
If you ask them to get you this specifically, can't you just ask them to get it to you early so you can get the perks of preordering? That's what I always did as a kid.
My parents wouldn't buy anything for us now that we have our own money and are capable of doing so. The only time they will buy games would be christmas and my birthday, otherwise I have to pay for it myself. Pre-ordering would also fall under that.
Not even if they like, hold it until Christmas? I did that with games before - like the special edition of Skyward Sword, we pre-ordered it and got it like a month before Hanukkah... but I couldn't play it until then.
Quote from: Nebbles on September 13, 2016, 04:26:47 AMNot even if they like, hold it until Christmas? I did that with games before - like the special edition of Skyward Sword, we pre-ordered it and got it like a month before Hanukkah... but I couldn't play it until then.
Aye, it's like asking for a loan. Even if you pay it off in advance. In which case it's more like a prepaid gift card.
This whole conversation is making me sick for some reason
The only way I can get games is by getting it gifted to me by people outside of my family or by walking for a couple hours and buying it without permission.
I usually try and keep the money I save for games and lego to use on the ones I really want, otherwise I let someone else give them to me as a gift :P.
Works well since there are no games or sets I'm interested in right now. (Pokemon Sun, PM: Color Splash, and Zelda BOTW excluded)
How would I transfer my pokemon from platinum to sun or moon
Transfer to gen 5, then pokebank to gen 6, then you'll trade to gen 7.
Should I rush to pre-order the new 3ds xl sun and moon edition? Because I remember when the pokemon red blue 3ds came out, the preorders sold out quick, now they're like 300$. Will the same thing happen again?
It's not worth it
If you want it, preorder it.
If you don't, don't.
It's as simple as that.
Keep in mind that some stores won't charge you until you pick it up, so you can cancel with no problems, but some stores charge you outright.
What Maelstrom said.
I simply wanted to know the rarity of the Sun and Moon version, but thx.
Oh, I'd get on that, it'll probably sell out fast.
I'm sure everyone has already seen this already, but I guess I'll add it anyways...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8lfI66T5II
What are your guy's thoughts? Plz no Harambe memes
I adore the new Pokemon but honestly I've said that about every new one
I'm so sick of harambe
I wish 2016 had good memes
/me dabs dramatically
pls no
Quote from: DocDoom2 on September 23, 2016, 08:51:40 PMI'm sure everyone has already seen this already, but I guess I'll add it anyways...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8lfI66T5II
What are your guy's thoughts? Plz no Harambe memes
I'm very surprised that they actually made an American Football mon (Passimian).
Really? Watching the trailer, I was more convinced it was based on rugby. Might've just been that the shape of the "ball" wasn't oblong so I didn't associate the two. (Then again, a rugby ball is also oblong...ah, idk)
Spoiler
GAH. I told myself I wouldn't peek at the evolutions. YouTube suggestions got the better of me.
Spoiler
Hoo boy. Dartrix's wing movements when attacking and "hair", Torracat's fireball collar, Brionne's "dress"...those final evolution leaks are looking more and more convincing.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Brionne looks like a really bad stereotype of a person who's unsure if anyone can love him (which fits considering the reaction towards the first form.) Dartrix looks as if he'll pull out a rad guitar any minute and Torracat looks OK.
The Join avenue place looks cool, makes me hopeful that if challenge doesn't return then a crapload of ways to interact with friends like BW/B2 will at least.
Not happy about Triple Battles getting axed on battle spot, as its yet another thing GF cut out when they didn't need to and proves they can get away with it if fans blindly eat everything else up.
Still pissed about the idiotic bank delay though and think its fake padding. Considering how shit the starters are I was actually planning on importing my level 100 spewpa from ORAS, boxing everyone else and trying to solo the game with a disobedient cocoon pokemon to see if it would make for a fun self-imposed challenge. Plus I was also wanting to see if my Mew glitch Mew and my other Kanto creatures would carry over from VC Yellow.
PC world sounds cool but global link still sounds like it won't be as good as Gen V's dream world (but better than Gen VI's, since it doesn't seem to have any of those awful HTML5 games)
Megas return but it seems that they aren't going to allow them in VGC or anything with a ranked system which is lame (and probably confirms no new ones). They're also doing the same limit with Ash-Greninja but at least it seems you can use him for a while in the main story since its a demo reward.
And speaking of which, the demo seems like it'll be my final chance to see for myself whether this game is worth doing extra chores to save money for or if it'll prove that me importing Ys VIII was the better choice. I'll pay attention to the flow of battle, performance (seeing if they made the FPS in battle lock for once instead of go apeshit whenever the 3D is on) and overall fun factor considering how I loved using Greninja in Gen VI so it'll be fun to try with him again.
Brutally honest opinion for this batch of news, but at least now I have a demo to look forward to reviewing.
welp never mind popplio
Regardless of TDH's review the game looks spectacular and I'll buy it
(Also I have been avoiding spoilers and haven't seen any of the new ones for the last month or so, so ha)
Rowlet continues to be best starter
honestly is it just me or is popplio's evolution a genderswap version of it
"Brianne"
It's not just you. Also, Rowlet's evo (mostly the "hair") reminds me of the Drawfee video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6_bD4VNHvw) about where they try to predict what the evolved forms look like
Aside from that, I'm pretty excited to try out the demo (and eventually the game itself)
I'm really, really excited for the demo. I'm going to download that as soon as I can.
Welp, the Popplio line continues to be the most disappointing Water-Type starter.
fucking fight me
the third evolution better be really really good, or I might have to just leave it as a popplio forever
didn't know this was an unpoppiolar opinion but I'm IN LOVE with popplio's line
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 04, 2016, 12:32:57 PMthe third evolution better be really really good, or I might have to just leave it as a popplio forever
Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on October 04, 2016, 12:28:02 PMWelp, the Popplio line continues to be the most disappointing Water-Type starter.
I agree with these statements, popplio has disappointed me so much with this second evolution, but I will hold out for the final evolution
like when we got samurott
I'LL FIGHT ALL OF YOU (minus bubbles who has good taste)
Quote from: Nebbles on October 04, 2016, 01:02:35 PMI'LL FIGHT ALL OF YOU (minus bubbles who has good taste)
you like popplio with a dress?
I mean, more than popplio without a dress
I like the three of them. Still trying to decide which one I'll end up using. Probably gonna stick to Rowlet and use Ash-Greninja
I was expecting a goofy clown, so the dress is disappointing.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 04, 2016, 01:08:48 PMyou like popplio with a dress?
I mean, more than popplio without a dress
brionne is MY FRIEND AND THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 04, 2016, 01:10:41 PMProbably gonna stick to Rowlet and use Ash-Greninja
ash-greninja is a trap
how are you supposed to beat the champion with ash-greninja
Even if you win, a Mega Charizard-X comes flying through the window and punches you in the face.
Brionne has a lot of potential. Any sea lion who manages to fit into a dress is going places.
Torracat is giving me even more Lion King vibes than Litten..
Brionne is... cool... I guess?
Dartrix helped me to choose to get Litten over Rowlet. Need I say more?
At least they've kept with the pattern of boy's starter (Charmander/Tepig/Litten), girl's starter (Chikorita/Fennekin/Popplio), and a neutral starter (Mudkip/Oshawott/Rowlett).
Yay for Ash-Greninja as well, but Boo for no new Megas...
I'll be here celebrating in my "no megas" corner.
Quote from: Nebbles on October 05, 2016, 09:47:54 PMI'll be here celebrating in my "no megas" corner.
How much room is in that corner? I might be joining you.
There's always room in the anti-mega corner.
Quote from: DocDoom2 on October 05, 2016, 09:47:00 PMDartrix helped me to choose to get Litten over Rowlet. Need I say more?
Uhm...
yes?! Why is there so much hate against Dartrix? It's foppish and hilarious and amazing and
have you even looked at that hair? HE GOES CRAZY WHEN YOU TOUCH IT I LOVE IT
I love Dartrix oh my gosh, he's so cuuuuteeee
Quote from: DocDoom2 on October 05, 2016, 09:47:00 PMTorracat is giving me even more Lion King vibes than Litten..
Brionne is... cool... I guess?
Dartrix helped me to choose to get Litten over Rowlet. Need I say more?
At least they've kept with the pattern of boy's starter (Charmander/Tepig/Litten), girl's starter (Chikorita/Fennekin/Popplio), and a neutral starter (Mudkip/Oshawott/Rowlett).
Yay for Ash-Greninja as well, but Boo for no new Megas...
I feel like some people are going to be offended by my saying this, but did the enforcing of gender norms in this post bug the FUCK out of anyone else
We gender clothes and colors and even food or drinks but Pokémon? Really?! When all of these are Pokémon who can be either male or female? I'm so incensed about this
...since when was a starter assigned to a particular gender anyway? You can choose whatever starter ya want regardless of that.
Quote from: Nebbles on October 05, 2016, 10:02:52 PM...since when was a starter assigned to a particular gender anyway? You can choose whatever starter ya want regardless of that.
This. Despite Brionne's feminine appearance (dress) and Dartrix's masculine appearance (dat hair) (Torracat goes either way for me), to say that "this one is the girls' starter" and "this one is the boys' starter" is pretty dumb. I've never considered any of the starters from any past generation to be gender-assigned, only that a
select few have features reminiscent of certain genders, and that's just a biology thing.
I've never heard anyone say anything like that before.
I just had no clue what he's talking about since Brianne is the only starter that actually looks specifically gendered
If he thinks the kitten looks masculine though more power to him
are we really upset over made-up, fictional monsters and ...gender norms?
like
Quote from: Olimar12345 on October 06, 2016, 03:02:21 AMare we really upset over made-up, fictional monsters and ...gender norms?
Well, really it went:
DocDoom2 made a slightly off statement, and everyone else said "Umm... no?".I can't tell how "upset" they are about it lol.
Brionne's eyes are pink, and I'm thinking that possibly, the male version has blue eyes. I dunno, but it'd be nice to see visual gender differences in starters.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 05, 2016, 10:44:19 PMI just had no clue what he's talking about since Brianne is the only starter that actually looks specifically gendered
If he thinks the kitten looks masculine though more power to him
I'm getting Prinplup and Empoleon flashbacks from Generation 4 now...and considering that Empoleon is named after Emperor Napoleon, you'd be very hard-pressed to convince me that Empoleon doesn't look male.
Well, I didn't really know how to put it but to me at least certain starters look more masculine or feminine than another.
I chose Fennekin in Gen 6 even though it seems more feminine to me, I wasn't saying that it defines what starter you have to choose.
They have Gallade and Gardevoir, a boy could choose Gardevoir but they have both to appeal to both boys and girls.
BTW I never said Dartrix was bad, I just liked Torracat more than it so I decided on Litten. If Rowlett's final evo impresses me I might choose it over Litten.
Again all of this is just personal opinion. I'll shut up now xD
EDIT: To be as specific as I can be: I always thought that certain starters (and all pokemon in general) have a more masculine or feminine look (Or somewhat neutral like magnemite etc.). Certain pokemon are tough and certain pokemon are cute, some pokemon designs are more appealing to boys and some more appealing to girls, I was simply pointing that out in reference to starter pokemon. I'm sorry if you misunderstood me...
Everyone's pointing out how ugly/weird Poppilo's line looks so far and I'm here in my corner proud to be/use a Male Braixen/Delphox (since a lot of folks out there think its too weird to have a male Braixen!)
Gardevoir actually isn't intended to look feminine, its japanese name is Sirnight, which is a reference to some type of cloak that some kind of knight used to wear
Wait, that's why it's called Sirnight? I always wondered about that...
Thanks for filling me in!
Ohhh maybe that's why it looks like it's wearing a helmet
yeah at some point it ended up looking super feminine and they were fine with it
Then they made Gallade just to troll us I guess
and mega waifuvore
GameFreak just released Sun/Moon's file size: 3.2 Gigabytes. That's double the size of X/Y and ORAS. AND larger than Smash 3DS. God help us all.
Larger than Smash? Dang... Hope the online battles aren't as laggy as Smash's :P
i'm ready
I hope it'll be a quality 3.2GB.
Ftr that's over 24000 blocks, so if you're downloading it get another SD card
Jeeeeeeeez! That's huge! :o
https://twitter.com/MegaMew_/status/784754407753805824
Someone found the demo file and ripped it. It's being datamined as we speak. The moment of truth (for me at least) has arrived...
EDIT: Heavily encrypted, cannot open. It seems GF grew a brain and might be able to keep things secret this time (I hope so for their sanity)
For all the "this game is gonna suck" you have going for Sun/Moon, you sure seem to be interested in everything news-related for it...
he kind of pays attention to every game
Quote from: Dudeman on October 08, 2016, 05:25:24 PMFor all the "this game is gonna suck" you have going for Sun/Moon, you sure seem to be interested in everything news-related for it...
I've been a Pokemon fan for 18 years and even if a game ends up being really poor/makes me angry (like Rumble Blast or ORAS) it exists so I can still look at it from a critical angle, or for what things it introduced for the future (For example even if SM are ass games, the TCG set is coming out this spring and I'm looking forward to that.)
Seeing the demo is making me hopeful that this game will end up bypassing my extremely low expectations, and if the leakers/other critical fans end up liking it, then it could be a nice surprise.
Bear in mind, when Gen V was hot and everyone shat on it for the pokemon designs I wasn't sure about buying those on launch day either, but close friends of mine got those games on launch and told me how challenging/fun they were, so I picked both B2 and W1 up a few weeks after launch based off word of mouth. On the other hand ORAS/XY were games I preordered based on hype and they ended up underwhelming me as a result (with ORAS being to me what No man's sky is to PS4 gamers.) Therefore, going back to my "Cautious eye" for Sun/Moon may make things better in the end, at least that's my hope since this IS the 20th anniversary title.
If I was the stereotypical "nerd rager kewld00d" I'd want every trace of Gen VII wiped from canon, but I'm not doing that. I just think the pokemon designs are poor and the game looks underwhelming so far, but I'm aware that like it or not we'll be stuck with the fugly starters for several years (unless a DP remake comes along)
After all, I've reviewed a huge variety of games. Some ended up surprising me despite insanely low expectations (sometimes lower than I have for this game) while others ended up disappointing me greatly. I'm used to this by now and the demo is pretty much more of less a chance for me to get a hands on with the performance of the game, since I plan to compare it to other 3DS demos/eShop titles to see if it runs as smooth as other eShop demos or worse. I'm planning to review the full game for what it is as well, depending on when I buy it (launch day if its good, Christmas/birthday if its meh/poor)
One of the things I regret the most in my life was not ripping AS to pieces after 100%ing the hoenn dex and main/post story, mainly because I was a newer reviewer afraid of getting pounded on for having an opinion that's not "best rpg ever on 3ds this year". Now I'm more willing to be brutally honest even if that means having the odd unpopular opinion now and then.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on October 08, 2016, 07:54:47 PM"Cautious eye"
followed by
Quotefugly starters
is why I find it hard to take you seriously 90% of the time.
Some Pokemon will always look dumb as long as they make 150 of them at a time
Quote from: Dudeman on October 08, 2016, 08:57:29 PMfollowed byis why I find it hard to take you seriously 90% of the time.
Brutal opinions and freedom of speech is what I believe in. I never sugarcoat my thoughts. If I think they're fugly (Which ATM I do based off of the first and second stages), then I think they're fugly.
For context (Since I
know some idiot is going to call me a genwunner over this some day on some site at some time), I tend to typically not mind most of the Pokemon in the other gens. In fact, I think Gen VI has the best Pokemon designs in ages (not counting the megas which are hit or miss) and the Gen V Pokemon designs don't bother me as much.
I'm aware that every gen has some stupid pokemon, (I still think Seel's face is ripe for punching and that Stantler is useless) and I'm not saying they're all perfect, but it seems to me at least that Gen VII is trying to focus on making the pokemon look deliberately weird (due to the tropical setting) that the cute and cuddly nature is being thrown out the window.
There could be some hope that the final game will have more normal pokemon designs outside of the ones revealed in the trailers, but one of the biggest fears everyone has (and you all KNOW this is a real possibility) is that they'll just reveal every non-legendary Pokemon before launch like they did with ORAS and the megas.
Do you guys ever want to reply to something but it's almost so dumb it's not worth it and you know it won't do anything anyway
Well, here's my question: Who decided what a normal pokemon looks like? Who said that every pokemon needs to look cute and cuddly? Not Game Freak. If Game Freak makes something that looks different from something they've already made, it's because they want every pokemon to be original. If Game Freak wants to make pokemon look like they actually belong in the region, they can do that, isn't that what happens with animals in different continents? It doesn't matter if you have an opinion, everyone does, but when you start making up rules to drive an opinion, that's when it becomes a problem.
Only explanation for Sun and moon being so big is that the post game is gsc's
Only explanation for Sun and Moon being so big is Alolan Exeggutor.
Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on October 09, 2016, 12:15:54 PMOnly explanation for Sun and Moon being so big is Alolan Exeggutor.
quote of the year
Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on October 09, 2016, 12:15:54 PMOnly explanation for Sun and Moon being so big is Alolan Exeggutor.
this would be a reason i'd be ok with
New info. GameXplain and other reviewers from the west coast got to go hands on with the game for two hours, and confirmed a lot of minor details about Sun/Moon, such as the lack of D-Pad support (obviously due to it being a free moving game) and the removal of 3D almost entirely.
They answered some questions not blocked by embargo in this video here: (Link starts at my questions)
For those not wanting to watch, I asked what you'd expect me to, about if the game still runs like ass like XY did in battles and if the challenge is a bit better. Good and bad news!
Good: The removal of 3D, while appearing to be a pathetic move at first, is actually a good thing, since the battles seem to run a bit more smoothly than they did in Gen VI. Since I play with the move animations off, this should mean that the battles would run pretty dang nice, just like they should!
Unfortunately, they pointed out that Poke Finder (That weird Pokemon Snap clone) has 3D and it slows the game down terribly when turned on, proving that they still can't properly optimize their game for 3D. At least they did a smart move by removing it elsewhere (though why it's still in Poke Finder if it makes it run horribly is beyond me but at least that's a throwaway mode)'
Bad: Challenge is a bit of a mixed bag. Early game challenge seems standard and the only sort of difficulty the players faced was due to a bad type matchup. Nothing that can really be judged yet until we get the game next month, but here's hoping it does a Kirby Planet Robobot and makes the end-game a nice challenge while making the main story a relaxing experience that isn't too insulting.
Tons of other things in the video as well. I recommend checking it out!
Also, since it seems nobody mentioned it, Corocoro leaked again and there's a Grimer recolor now. Looks like a mix between waste and acid. Half dark type for some reason.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on October 13, 2016, 10:28:19 AMsuch as the lack of D-Pad support
screw this game im not buying it
We have our first Dragon/Fighting type everybody.
and he is my friend and i love him
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 13, 2016, 11:12:38 AMWe have our first Dragon/Fighting type everybody.
4x weak to Fairy, a fairy ghost in a shoddy Pikachu costume (Mimikyu) is immune to both types at once...guess it's safe to whip out the Dragon/Fighting types now.
How Game Freak got away with Reshiram the Dragon/Fire type in Generation 5, before Fairies were introduced, I'll never quite know...(although perhaps Game Freak is willing to push their legendaries pretty hard...)
I got through the gen 3remake without any fairies, I can do it for this
New Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ4I_0DP4fc
impressions
Silvally's cool, I guess. Seems like a poor man's Arceus, although maybe that's the point. I wish it looked more different from Type: Null, as all it really lost is the helmet.
Hakamo-o and Kommo-o look really cool, but as Dekka pointed out, they'll probably become all but useless in competitive due to that horrible matchup against Fairy-types. Which is too bad.
A nice surprise reveal in Steenee and Tsareena. Tsareena's ability appears to cancel out priority moves entirely. That's crazy. It seems like GameFreak's been adding several abilities to serve as counters for common competitive strategies. This is getting interesting.
Ribombee is adorable, that is all.
We knew about Alolan Grimer, but, um, Alolan Muk is...what the heck am I looking at. I need an explanation for the rainbow sludge abomination.
So, aside from five trial captains, it looks like each island has its own Kahuna as well. While the gym system may be gone from this game, I'm glad that there's still a traditional one-on-one trainer battle waiting at the end of each island.
Now that someone mentioned it, why are the main Pokémon games the only 3DS games that lag in 3D? HarmoKnight doesn't lag in 3D, and that was also made by Game Freak.
Quote from: Dudeman on October 14, 2016, 08:47:00 AMI need an explanation for the rainbow sludge abomination.
Gay Pride
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on October 14, 2016, 01:33:47 PMNow that someone mentioned it, why are the main Pokémon games the only 3DS games that lag in 3D? HarmoKnight doesn't lag in 3D, and that was also made by Game Freak.
I'm pretty sure Pokemon uses a lot more memory than hamoknight for graphics lol.
I mean 6 Pokemon on screen with attacks visible? That's pretty heavy duty stuff.
^That's true; it's mainly due to the cel-shaded model designs. Even Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney has lag when there are more than three characters on screen at the same time (which isn't often) and 3D is up.
All the new Pokemon are so cute, wtf
alolan muk makes me feel legit sick
i think they're doing it right
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on October 14, 2016, 01:33:47 PMNow that someone mentioned it, why are the main Pokémon games the only 3DS games that lag in 3D? HarmoKnight doesn't lag in 3D, and that was also made by Game Freak.
They aren't the only games in 3D that lag, but they are one of the few first party games to do so. Others like Hyrule Warriors Legends and Kirby Planet robobot slow down a bit in 3D as well, and PSMD loses a tiny bit of texture when the 3D is on. However, I will say that XY/ORAS are some of the worst running 3D games that I've ever played on the system (and I've reviewed a
lot.) When the 3D is on in a single battle, the game runs in near single digit framerates, (and I wish I was exaggerating, but I'm not, it truly gets that bad if you try to use a flashy move like Origin pulse in 3D, and it slows down even when nothing's happening) which is inexcusable for games made in 2013/2014. The only places that the 3D doesn't slow the game down to bad lengths are overworld areas, but those are rare.
But yeah, XY/ORAS had really shitty 3D performance, even on the new 3DS with ORAS. That's probably why they disabled it in the other battle modes and why they removed it almost altogether in Sun/Moon. Pretty much shows that Game Freak sucks at optimizing their games for 3D, when the two PMD games can run pretty smooth in 3D. That's why I'm a bit pleased that they removed the 3D support entirely, though I'm still disappointed they couldn't have fixed it by hiring a competent programmer like M2 and instead had to take the easy way out. Nevertheless, if it leads to a tolerable framerate, I'll take it.
Speaking of M2, whenever someone tries to bring up how Game Freak are indie developers, (as their excuse for why the 3D sucks so hard) you should point to them as an example of a small japanese indie team who get things done. Their Sega 3D classics run perfectly on the oldest model at max 3D, and that's with intense games like Power Drift and Galaxy Force II. Not that they should waste months on the 3D effect, but if they wanted to include it, they should have focused on trying to fix the issue.
In regards to Harmoknight, I'm pretty sure the reasoning for that running better is because it was worked on by the European members of Game Freak (not the usual team who's busy on Pokemon) and because it was a simplistic 2D game. I probably should check that game out eventually, along with Pocket Card Jockey.
^HarmoKnight is great. I 100%ed that (the last couple levels took forever to get gold on fast mode).
I thought the 3D in or as was fine
QuoteHakamo-o and Kommo-o look really cool, but as Dekka pointed out, they'll probably become all but useless in competitive due to that horrible matchup against Fairy-types. Which is too bad.
Kammo-o with Soundproof, max attack, and Poison Jab (if it gets it) could destroy Hyper Voice Sylveon (or Mega Gardevoir). But otherwise yeah, not looking good with that 4x Fairy weakness...
8 out of the 21 Bulletproof protected moves are already resisted by Kammo-o and only 2 of the 21 are super-effective (being Mist Ball and Ice Ball which are never used in competitive anyways.)
It's also pretty ironic that it's own signature move wouldn't work against another Kammo-o with Soundproof.
Either way, I guess I'm catching a Soundproof one...
Brief summary of my opinion on the other Pokemon:
Ribombee, Silvally, Hakamo-o, and Kommo-o are really cool.
I'm neutral on Steenee and Tsareena is... unique...
I can already see the "serena confirmed for Sun and Moon anime" videos on youtube...I want to use Alolan Muk just to distract my opponents with its psychedelic colors.
Now I'll shut up. :P
I now have a hilarious mental image of Alolan Muk saying the Lemon Pledge from Cars 2.
Despite the descriptions I've read, Alolan Muk reminds me of an oil slick, complete with iridescent shimmer.
On a related note, these had better be the last Alolan versions with the Dark type tacked on. Alolan Meowth was cool as a Dark-type, and I'm fairly neutral on Alolan Rattata, but I'm sensing a bad and uncreative trend with Alolan Muk. I'd like to see another Alolan version with the Fairy type tacked on to compensate--after all, with attack names like Moonblast and Dazzling Gleam, doesn't the Fairy type sound like the closest that Pokemon will get to a Light type?
...Rant aside, we've seen loads of OU and some Uber Pokemon with 4x weaknesses, and I predict that Kommo-o will have a Haxorus- or even pseudo-legendary-sized BST. If Kommo-o gets Iron Head (or Poison Jab, but I think it looks more like an Iron Header), I can definitely see it being OU anyway. ...with Soundproof preferred because that makes it immune to Pixilate Hyper Voice. Heck, its Fighting attacks are neutral against some Fairies like Mawile(-Mega), Magearna, and Diancie(-Mega).
On yet another note, I'm having a hard time seeing the puns in Steenee and Tsareena's names, to the point that I think of Tsareena's name as a sloppy misspelling of the word "tsarina" even though I shouldn't.
Luckily for me, I don't do competitive battling (or battling online in general) so I don't have to worry about who goes on my team! :D
I love all of the new Pokemon. I just want more. I like the Alolan forms, but I would also like some cool new ice types and dark types that are more than fancy re-colors.
Man, Ice-types sound pretty chill...
What about steel type?
They're pretty chill too, ironically.
Man, I'm really wanting to know what the tertiary legendary is now, ESPECIALLY since there's a pseudo-Arceus in the game. I imagine it would be rather powerful, given the apparent power in this...thing...?, (the tertiary, that is) maybe something to do with eclipses?
I hope they don't show us so we can find out when we play the game.
Have they announced how bank transfers will work with rby?
Hmmm... you have a point. I'm torn between wanting to know & not know ;-;
Ninja'D by Noc
Will be done via Pokemon Transporter like with BW/BW2. Pokemon from Gen I will be given some special marking that makes them only work with SM but like with the normal bank support they won't release it until January due to a BS "Magic experience"
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on October 16, 2016, 04:51:34 PMMan, I'm really wanting to know what the tertiary legendary is now, ESPECIALLY since there's a pseudo-Arceus in the game. I imagine it would be rather powerful, given the apparent power in this...thing...?, (the tertiary, that is) maybe something to do with eclipses?
Arceus Lite (Silvally) is (probably) not a legendary or a mythical, as far as I can tell. No legendaries and no mythicals evolve to or from anything (although Manaphy cannot breed true).
With that being said, I'd bet all my socks that the third, cover-like legendary represents the stars.
I hope so because that'd be the perfect legendary for me.
Quote from: Dekkadeci on October 16, 2016, 06:24:47 PMArceus Lite (Silvally) is (probably) not a legendary or a mythical, as far as I can tell. No legendaries and no mythicals evolve to or from anything (although Manaphy cannot breed true).
yeah, because if Sun and Moon has shown us anything it's that it's not breaking any typical Pokemon conventions whatsoever
Demo drops tomorrow! :D
Wish I could get it, but I'm too dang busy! :D
that's not stopping me
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 16, 2016, 11:39:10 PMyeah, because if Sun and Moon has shown us anything it's that it's not breaking any typical Pokemon conventions whatsoever
I'd say that Sun and Moon are breaking convention by not introducing any Mega Evolutions, but then again, Contests have disappeared for several generations. (Game Freak is willing to remove major new features from future generations.)
On the other hand, I remember calling it back when they were showing a "new green Pokemon" in a trailer back before Magearna was introduced, and remembering that Game Freak
never releases new Pokemon mid-generation, I correctly predicted that the "new mon" was actually a Zygarde form.
...What I got wrong was predicting there would be a Pokemon Z game. Maybe Sun and Moon were made partially because Zygarde's new forms got that difficult and bloated to implement...
Mega evolution was introduced a few trailers ago. Unless you mean any new mega evolutions...
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on October 17, 2016, 05:42:15 AMMega evolution was introduced a few trailers ago. Unless you mean any new mega evolutions...
Sorry, I meant new Mega Evolutions. It's tough predicting which major new features Game Freak removes from future generations, and considering the popularity of Mega Evolutions, I'm still surprised they effectively got replaced by Alolan Forms.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on October 16, 2016, 05:45:50 PMWill be done via Pokemon Transporter like with BW/BW2. Pokemon from Gen I will be given some special marking that makes them only work with SM but like with the normal bank support they won't release it until January due to a BS "Magic experience"
but no abilities, evs work different, some stats got changed, do we have any specifics of how that information getsadded?
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 17, 2016, 09:59:19 AMbut no abilities, evs work different, some stats got changed, do we have any specifics of how that information getsadded?
Not yet, probably because it really isn't a big deal. If anything, it'll be like GSC where the genders/other changed features will be assigned randomly based on some coding and whatnot.
I forgot that the demo comes out tomorrow.
7 am pst, 10 am est. Get ready!
Lol, I got school and a band concert tomorrow. Life is going to suck.
uuuUUUMMMMMMMM
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/788216331258695680
Maybe clarify the nature of that spoiler
Alolan form revealed through the demo, which is out in Japan
your will regret clicking on it
no you won't
it's the best alolan form
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ALOHAN DUGTRIO
THEY GAVE DIGLETT'S LINE A FRIGGIN BLOND HAIRDO?
MY REACTION RIGHT NOW
(A bit exaggerated obviously but this really is a stupid idea that I don't get)
Also, in other news, Game Freak sucked super hard at hiding code again. THE LEAKS ARE COMING! Cut your internet cable if you can't handle the inevitable.
In other news (this is not a spoiler, it's tech info) the game apparently runs like ass on the original 3DS, at least the demo. Requires reboot upon like when playing MH4 or SSB 3ds on the original models. This info comes from GameFaqs, supporters of the New 3DS Master race
Separate post regarding the datamine. No major spoilers in this post, but I do explain what exactly caused the big leak. I hid it in a tag out of courtesy, so you can avoid it if you want, but I swear, the only way this happened was because some moron was bad at programming. So, here's how the datamine went down
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They forgot to remove the shiny 3D models for the pokemon. They dummied out the normal ones, but forgot the shinies. Happy birthday
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on October 17, 2016, 09:54:15 PMSpoiler
They forgot to remove the shiny 3D models for the pokemon. They dummied out the normal ones, but forgot the shinies. Happy birthday
Not really a spoiler but just in case
I guess there's always something that can be missed.
I don't know what happened but then the internet happened and now I've seen leaks.
Damn.
Jeez, I gotta hold out the entire day not watching these stuff so I can experience the demo myself. It's gonna be worse when the actual game comes out.
While not commenting on any new 'mons yet...
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Stuff we can speculate on given loads of 3D models in an order that makes sense:
- Whether any 3D models were missed
- Whether event mythicals will finally be DLC
- Which ones Game Freak will preview before the game is officially released
- Names, typings, BSTs, abilities, etc.
I'm downloading the demo right now!
I saw the leaks, thoughts on the new 'mons inside
Faith restored. Wimpole's evolution is badass. Salandit's evolution is badass. That lime-green spider thing is badass. Pikipek turns into a toucan, that's badass. And apparently the legendaries have cute embryonic forms or something, so that's interesting. Oh, and the rest of the ultra beasts are badass too. I have hype.
But can someone explain the inspiration behind the Alolan Geodude line?
Quote from: Dudeman on October 18, 2016, 08:33:55 AMI saw the leaks, thoughts on the new 'mons inside
But can someone explain the inspiration behind the Alolan Geodude line?
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China. That's the first thing that came to my mind when I saw their eyebrows and expressions.The China Bonk form in Bonk's Adventure was what it reminded me of the most
Not sure if this is really spoilers but it regards the music
It turns out that there are day and night versions of some pieces :D
Quote from: Dudeman on October 18, 2016, 08:33:55 AMI saw the leaks, thoughts on the new 'mons inside
Faith restored. Wimpole's evolution is badass. Salandit's evolution is badass. That lime-green spider thing is badass. Pikipek turns into a toucan, that's badass. And apparently the legendaries have cute embryonic forms or something, so that's interesting. Oh, and the rest of the ultra beasts are badass too. I have hype.
But can someone explain the inspiration behind the Alolan Geodude line?
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Same. I also think it's cool how there's an anchor pokemon
Quote from: Zeila on October 18, 2016, 11:33:12 AMNot sure if this is really spoilers but it regards the music
It turns out that there are day and night versions of some pieces :D
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Ooh day-night cycle returns. I can imagine some places looking really pretty at night.
Just finished the main part of the SM demo and overall, i think one thing it has a lot of is charm. Neat little touches I found admirable were hidden in places I didn't expect, and the dialogue was better than pretty much anything in XY/ORAS (and this is just the demo!)
Performance wise on my N3DS Single battles ran with zero issues but sadly double battles took a minor hit and Poke finder ran like ass regardless of whether my 3D was on or not. At least it doesn't get worse when you turn it on.
I'm still messing around with some other things in the demo, but my written review of the demo in terms of its performance should be up later this week. Overall, paced better and is more engaging than the ORAS one by a long shot, but I did have some very minor gripes (which I'll mention in the review).
Oh, and the music for the field area is god-like. Seriously, I was blown away after expecting mediocre music like the trailers, but a lot of the new themes in the demo sound iPod worthy to me.
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I love variations of songs so much I was really disappointed that Day/Night versions were in D/P/Pt thus far but if they come back in S/M aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
The music is fantastic so far! Like, goddamn, I cannot wait for the full OST.
Granted this is only for the jingles that I remember of the top of my head but man I never thought Hoenn could be out-trumpeted!
Otherwise I love the music, and I like about half of the leaked 'mons!
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Why the heck do the Ultra Beasts have Shiny forms though?
And what... happened... to Persian... I mean, besides Ken Suigimori (sorry if I spelt his name incorrectly) obviously liking Garfield...
Okay, I'm exercising a lot of restraint and not playing the demo. But I just realized it might be pointless.
I've never demoed anything before. If I play it now, how much of that special, first-time, oh-my-word-it's-a-new-Pokemon-game-yay-for-adventure-the-sun-is-shining-and-life-is-incredible feeling is spoiled for when I play the game for-real in a month?
I'm so happy to hear all these good opinions!
THEM LEAKS BOYZZZZ.
I'm conflicted about getting the demo but I already looked at all the leaks and it's free soooooooo
Quote from: DocDoom2 on October 18, 2016, 12:45:57 PMSpoiler
Why the heck do the Ultra Beasts have Shiny forms though?
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Because surprise surprise, the Aether people are secretly Pokemon/have Pokesona forms of sorts. Therefore like the legends they'll get shiny forms whether they're shiny locked or not in order to prevent a game crash.
Still avoiding spoilers (thanks for continuing to mark them) but I saw everything the demo had to offer, minus those people who want me to come back in X number of days. Nice demo but here are some complaints:
1. Music and sound seems way too quiet, I could hardly hear anything at max volume. I needed headphones.
2. Graphics are pretty terrible. Worse than the last couple games for sure. It just feels much more pixelly and low-res.
3. New battle UI is fun and should make remembering typings of new Pokémon a breeze; however, marking which moves will be super effective seems kind of like a step too far. Memorizing the type chart is one of the more fun aspects of battling for me, so I hope there's an option to turn that feature off in the full version.
4. The character sprite looks very weird while walking. Also, only being able to use the Circle Pad to move is kind of odd to get used to.
5. The camera angles are fresh and lovely but they do sometimes make it hard to make things out, especially on a 3DS screen.
Those are basically my only complaints though and they're all easily overlooked, so here's hoping the rest of the game is as strong as the demo suggests it will be!
I agree with all of that especially the music volume.
The only thing is I didn't notice were the graphics problem you mentioned.
Quote from: Oronoco on October 18, 2016, 12:52:08 PMIf I play it now, how much of that special, first-time, oh-my-word-it's-a-new-Pokemon-game-yay-for-adventure-the-sun-is-shining-and-life-is-incredible feeling is spoiled for when I play the game for-real in a month?
The demo helped hype me up even more, once the game releases I'm sure it'll still have that first-time feeling to it for me!
That's just my opinion though.
Slow, did you play on a Original 3DS model or the New 3DS model? That may be why some things you saw weren't encountered by me (like the music problem or visuals, outside of seeing that compressed pikachu on the avatar's head)
New 3DS XL.
Honestly when I started playing, for some reason, I did not like anything at first. I hated the character model, I hated the amount of guitars used in music, I hated a lot of things. But then, in an instant, I loved everything. The character model became more likeable (the walking animation did not), I actually really liked the music as the ones that I didn't like had amazing bass lines and other songs were also amazing! I generally don't like how the graphics look, they look amazing, but I just don't like how big it looked. After a little while, I started to really appreciate the things I saw in the background and the texture of the grass and it started to look better. Also, I'm so glad I made the decision to get Pokemon Moon, I get all the awesome night themes all day!
My favorite song.
^theres not much guitar in the OST. That's all ukulele, to make a Hawaiian sound.
The music is pretty meh for me. The demo is good enough at least that I still plan on getting the game. Looks like it doesnt force you to use any of the dumb stuff, and the graphics seem good. Not sure how I feel about the ugly tauros costume, and I wish the enemy team could actually be cool instead of thinking theyre cool.
Well, they may actually be cool in the full game! I can tell that it's mostly the grunts that think they're cool and not the admins or whatnot.
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Finally commenting on the 3D model leak contents:
Low number of new 'mons
My theory that Sun and Moon is a chump change, rush job generation made because Zygarde's new forms were getting too complex to fit in Generation 6 is looking more and more plausible.
Serebii.net's forum's habit of putting placeholder names on 'mons
I actually like the established placeholder names I've seen there. Even without me labelling 'mon pictures, I think you and I can figure out which 'mons Robin Hoot, Marshadow, and Yeti Crab are. (My placeholder names are in quotation marks.)
Alolan Forms
Thank goodness they don't seem to be going completely overboard on them numbers-wise. However, I need all their typings before I can come up with a complete evaluation.
Looks-wise, I can recognize the Kanto 'mons in all of them, so I can't criticize them too much.
On a sadder note, these had better get hidden abilities or Smogon will blanket ban the Alolan Vulpix line because all it's known to get is the evasion-raising Snow Cloak...
New non-legendary 'mons
Definitely some cool concepts in there, though I was honestly expecting Komala to evolve.
I don't care how closely related woodpeckers and toucans are; I still think that biological impossibilities like woodpeckers (Pikipek) evolving (read: maturing) into toucans shouldn't occur, especially not in generations this late. I still can't quite forgive remoras (Remoraid) evolving into octopi (Octillery).
It'll be fun to speculate version exclusives, evolution methods, and more. I'm already suspecting that the Fomantis line is Sun-exclusive, the Morelull line is Moon-exclusive (based on their adjacent positions in the 3D lineup), Type: Null evolves when it gets max happiness, Steenee needs a Leaf Stone or Sun Stone to evolve into Tsareena...
Guardian Deities
They look plausible given that Tapu Koko is a member, and that's enough for me to give them the thumbs-up. That 2 of them look female and the other 2 look male is a nice, politically correct touch.
Tapu Koko got an awesome pose in its 3D model, IMO.
"Celestial Tykes"
My first instinct upon looking at them was that "Clouds For Arms" evolves into "Encased In Gold", then doesn't evolve any further, and that they're basically Solgaleo and Lunala's Celestial Servants.
Unfortunately, the big speculation is that they're pre-evolutions or sealed forms of Solgaleo et al. Also, if the 82-mon-large Pokédex is true, those things could be pre-evolutions (or just servants) and we'd still be missing a 'mon. If they're different forms, then we'd be missing 3 'mons. It's possible that Serebii.net is confused and we have 81 new Pokemon after all. The not-forms theories are looking more plausible.
An outside possibility is that they're Phione-style children of Solgaleo and Lunala, where the 2 cover legends breed to produce them as offspring, but the tykes can't evolve into them.
Ultra Beasts
They don't look like Pokemon, and that's a good thing, IMO. They definitely look like plausible threats to Pokemon and humankind.
I suspect they're like the opponents in http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokéstar_Studios_opponents and you can't capture them.
...Especially since I also subscribe to the theory that the Ultra Beasts are transformed (meta?-)humans. The link between Lillie, Who Can't Touch Pokemon In The Anime and UB-01 is the most obvious, but since I've read that Lusamine and Gladion share Lillie's hair and eye colour, I'm agreeing with some speculators that Lusamine is UB-02 Beauty.
I predict that not all the higher-ups in the Aether Foundation are Ultra Beasts--I can't see Wicke in any of them, and it's a sign that I've read that "Faba looks like a stretch".
I've seen a fanmade picture speculating that Team Skull's Guzma looks like "UB-03 Star Head" and therefore can turn into it, so be prepared for non-Aether members becoming Ultra Beasts.
Part of me believes that Gladion fits "Severus Snape has a Patronus" and he'll get his Type: Null Silvally (as seen in trailers) to headbutt him and successfully purge the Ultra Beast ability from him. How Gladion can get his former Type: Null to trust him enough to evolve, I'm otherwise not sure.
I'm also wondering why the Aether Foundation was founded. The bigger speculation is that Aether experimentation is leading to Ultra Beasts being made, but I'm starting to wonder whether Aether was founded in order to compassionately give Ultra Beasts (in human form) jobs, or whether Ultra Beasts actually have compassion for Pokemon. I think that, if Lusamine is UB-02 Beauty, she was that Ultra Beast before she became a member of Aether (whether by joining or co-founding).
New mythicals
Marshadow may be the true 100-in-all-base-stats mythical (part of me thinks that Magearna looks like she specializes in defence and special attack too much). There's loads of speculation already that Marshadow will get another form, and given the precedent in Shaymin, I'm inclined to agree.
Oh, I forgot to comment on this, but Team Skull made me laugh a LOT. I think it was a combination of the "rap accompaniment-esque" theme music, the ridiculously detailed movements of their character models, and the way they acted like wannabe gangsters. I'm actually pretty excited about what their storyline will be in the full version.
For Dekka; thought I'd clear a couple things up
- Marshadow is a confirmed name; GameFreak filed a trademark for it back in June. It prompted a lot of speculation about if it was the third Legendary in the traditional trio, which it doesn't appear to be now.
- GameFreak has confirmed that you can catch the Ultra Beasts, so...
New official info from an interview (http://nintendoeverything.com/pokemon-sunmoon-devs-on-connectivity-with-pokemon-go-choosing-platform-for-next-entry-3d-much-more/).
Highlights:
-No soaring
-Megas only in post-game due to focus on Z Moves
-Creepy mongoose Pokemon isn't trying to build a wall
Oh, and new info from the datamine. I'm not marking this as a spoiler because quite frankly it'd be the stupidest spoiler of all time if I did. It's probably the best takeaway from all this.
Ready?
No Hidden Machines.
I kind of figured there would be no hidden machines now that Tauros can break rocks. I'm sure they'll have other Pokémon to field the other roadblocks.
alolan form Persian spoiler
I love how Alolan Persian looks like Garfield
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on October 19, 2016, 08:57:35 AM-No soaring
no
Quote-Megas only in post-game due to focus on Z Moves
I'm ok with that.
Anyway, now that I'm back on my computer, thoughts on all the Pokemon (yes, ALL):
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- Starters are all cool. Would probably rank the final evolutions as Popplio > Rowlet > Litten, but I don't dislike many of them. Might end up going with Rowlet simply because I can have Greninja again. :P :P
- Toucan is NICE, but Gumshoos is only "ok."
- Not a fan of Crawbrawler's evo.
- Ribombee is <3 <3 <3
- I like Sun Lycanroc much better than Moon. Moon's tries to be EDGY and DARK, but is way too gaunt to take seriously and also a bit too... red...?
- New Pokemon from the TCG leak and its evo are pretty nice. I also like the "Bubble Spider" Pokemon.
- Morelull's evo is decent, but I would have preferred something less... humanoid, perhaps? Just a little too reminiscent of Amoonguss.
- Salandit's evo is good, but it looks either like it needs a middle form (and make the current evo more impressive-looking), or another evolution. I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to be this generation's Heliolisk.
- Still not sure about either monkey.
- Wimpod's evolution is easily a top 10 'Mon based on appearance alone (and probably the best of this gen as well). Really hope it keeps the typing and gets a good ability (and isn't like Barbaracle, the closest comparison I can think of).
- Rather surprised that Pyukumuku didn't get an evolution, and disappointed that neither Minior nor Komala got one either. I can somewhat understand Mimikyu, though it would've been awesome to see a really demented Pikachu-ghost-thing.
- Anchor Pokemon is interesting, though I'm not a fan of the bright splash of color in the middle of it.
- The island guardians are a neat concept, but I think I like Tapu Koko and the blue shelled one the best. I don't even know what the big hulking one is doing, but it concerns me.
- Shiny Solgaleo is ew, but Shiny Lunala is awesome.
- I really really love the Ultra Beasts. They give the creature designers a chance to make cool concepts without strictly adhering to many guidelines; we can definitely see how creative they can be given less restraints, and I think this is a positive step to keep the Pokemon designs interesting. My favorites are both UB-02, the one that looks suspiciously like Guzma, the greenish one that looks like a Final Fantasy summon, and the giant mouth-crab-thing.
- All the different color schemes for Magearna are... fascinating. Wonder what they'll be for.
- Alolan Dugtrio: http://i.imgur.com/GcRoRMf.png (http://i.imgur.com/GcRoRMf.png); Not sure about Golem or Persian, but as I've said before, the rest of them are fine. Alolan Muk is BRILLIANCE.
So far I have no idea if I'm missing anything. How long does it take for someone to figure out the demo and put it on the internet
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 19, 2016, 04:38:14 PMSo far I have no idea if I'm missing anything. How long does it take for someone to figure out the demo and put it on the internet
Hours, according to the news we've gotten.
Last generation, the ORAS demo was cracked somewhat quickly (and missed several Mega Evolutions), but the XY games were cracked so slowly that the only evidence we heard for months that its event mythicals existed was that you could request Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion for trade.
Yesterday I looked for info but I was already ahead of them by 10 pretty wings
Also keep in mind that the XY leaks took longer because the 3DS itself wasn't hackable at the time. That's how when the full game leaked early Nintendo was successfully able to take it away from the first canadian leaker.
...Only for the italians to leak it shortly afterwards from someone else who got the full game causing all of europe to suffer two delays as punishment.
I'M CALLING IT HERE OKAY
I'M ARRANGING THE WILD POKEMON BATTLE THEME kthxbai
Sure, Latios.
I was playing the demo and somebody said to come see them in 3 days. Does this mean that there are new events on different days?
Very much so, yes. I think there are 3 or 4 daily events left. Off the top of my head, there's that person, a birthday in 10 or so days, and the ferry will open in a couple weeks
The ferry opens like a week before the release.
This is now a meme?
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It's actually pretty cool and a little creepy
5 nights at mimikus
gonna be honest, that little trailer is adorable and I kind of love it
Quote from: braixen1264 on October 20, 2016, 05:44:32 PMI'M CALLING IT HERE OKAY
I'M ARRANGING THE WILD POKEMON BATTLE THEME kthxbai
And I the trainer battle theme.
Quote from: Maelstrom on October 21, 2016, 05:36:04 PMThis is now a meme?Spoiler
It's actually pretty cool and a little creepy
this is my favorite thing ever
On a different topic (sorry, I lurk too much on Smogon--I suspect the one thing my spare time activities have in common is over-analysis), poor Kommo-o is going to have a difficult time crafting a moveset:
If it uses both Dragon- and Fighting-type moves like its typing suggests, it's Fairy bait.
If it also adds super-effective coverage for Fairies (Steel's fine because Steel/Fairy types can't come in for free on an anti-Fairy coverage move, but Poison is likely preferred because Fighting hits those Steel/Fairies for neutral anyway and Azumarill is neutral to Steel but weak to Poison), Kommo-o can't get through Aegislash.
If it adds super-effective coverage for Aegislash (and Steel/Ghosts), Kommo-o has no room left for boosting moves, U-turn, etc.
Guess Kommo-o is praying that Aegislash will be banished to Ubers again, but if my suspicions that the Ultra Beasts have Genesect-like BSTs are correct, I think Gen 7 OU is going to be so high-powered that stuff like Aegislash, Genesect, and Hoopa-Unbound will be unbanned from OU.
Speaking of Kommo-o, I was just playing the Sun and Moon demo, and it took me ages to figure out how to take the photos.
Quote from: Dekkadeci on October 22, 2016, 07:02:11 AMOn a different topic (sorry, I lurk too much on Smogon--I suspect the one thing my spare time activities have in common is over-analysis), poor Kommo-o is going to have a difficult time crafting a moveset:
If it uses both Dragon- and Fighting-type moves like its typing suggests, it's Fairy bait.
If it also adds super-effective coverage for Fairies (Steel's fine because Steel/Fairy types can't come in for free on an anti-Fairy coverage move, but Poison is likely preferred because Fighting hits those Steel/Fairies for neutral anyway and Azumarill is neutral to Steel but weak to Poison), Kommo-o can't get through Aegislash.
If it adds super-effective coverage for Aegislash (and Steel/Ghosts), Kommo-o has no room left for boosting moves, U-turn, etc.
Guess Kommo-o is praying that Aegislash will be banished to Ubers again, but if my suspicions that the Ultra Beasts have Genesect-like BSTs are correct, I think Gen 7 OU is going to be so high-powered that stuff like Aegislash, Genesect, and Hoopa-Unbound will be unbanned from OU.
Here's hoping for Hidden Ability Scrappy...?
That being said, a moveset of:
- Close Combat
- Poison Jab
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
Doesn't seem too bad. Do we know any other moves it gets yet (or was that data removed from the demo)?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 22, 2016, 08:31:25 PMHere's hoping for Hidden Ability Scrappy...?
That being said, a moveset of:
- Close Combat
- Poison Jab
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
Doesn't seem too bad. Do we know any other moves it gets yet (or was that data removed from the demo)?
As far as we can tell, moveset data was replaced with long series of the move Pound.
I'm thinking that replacing Close Combat with a Dragon-type move provides less redundant coverage (especially since the current moveset can't hit Ghosts super-effectively or at least with a STAB with 1.5x the power...and Gengar comes in for free on 2 out of 3 moves).
Oh yeah there's a drug deal going down in two weeks
Just read it up--official Japanese twitter has revealed TCG cards of the starters' final evolutions (so we get Japanese names, but not typings). Would reveals like this have ever occurred if the demo didn't leak all those new Pokemon images?
Quote from: Dekkadeci on October 27, 2016, 04:51:06 AMJust read it up--official Japanese twitter has revealed TCG cards of the starters' final evolutions (so we get Japanese names, but not typings). Would reveals like this have ever occurred if the demo didn't leak all those new Pokemon images?
Idk, but they just released a new trailer (https://youtu.be/5uWAMwcRGmU) about an hour ago that reveals the English names
Edit: maybe I should've watched it before I posted, but it reveals more than just leaked info (including typings, unless I just never saw all of it in the first place)
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I was surprised at Deciduyes typing, and thankful that Incineroar really did turn out to be fire/dark. Still not really sold on the names but I'll likely get used to it pretty quickly. Also, hype for the previous champions coming back!
So there's a Battle Tree that's like the PWT now? Interesting... If its balanced just as well (not using the broken AI from Gen VI) then this just may be good after all.
My word. The Tapu Z-Move looks so cruel. I felt like a horrible person just watching it.
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I'm so glad Incineroar turned out fire-dark, too. And I love Decidueye's name, but that's probably just because I study trees.
I JUST WATCHED THE NEXT TRAILER AND MY HYPE IS THROUGH THE ROOF HELP
Quote from: Dudeman on October 27, 2016, 08:26:37 AMMY HYPE IS THROUGH THE ROOF HELP
YES! I'm not the only one!
Quite frankly though, I almost died of hype when seeing the stuff announced right at the end of the trailer!
idk if this even needs a spoiler but I'll put it in anyways.
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Does anyone else like how they aged Red and Blue a bit? Makes sense since it's been 20 years, right?
Also I can't wait to battle every Champion with my favorite Pokemon from Gens 1-7. Assuming that they have all the champions in the battle tree (I mean, Wally is there and he ain't a champ.)
Incineroar almost became my favorite starter, but it just couldn't beat out Emboar... I always end up liking the less popular starters for some reason...
wait was I right about Sun and Moon having the GSC postgame?
I'M SO EXCITED FOR EVERYTHING OH MY GOD
May as well give my input on the new stuff:
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It's great that Game Freak can still surprise us even given that we know pretty much all the new 'mon images. I definitely wasn't expecting Decidueye being Grass/Ghost (and, frankly, if Game Freak is saying that "Spirit channellers are part Ghost", I think that's a bad and unintuitive direction to go).
Speaking of Grass/Ghost, if the Gen 7 starters behave like Gen 6 starters and cyclically fully beat each other typing-wise, I predict that Game Freak will start thankfully nerfing Fairy and making it weak to Ghost.
...Guess the Guardian Deities went in the second most obvious direction and took on typings related to the Terrains.
IMO, it's hilarious that all the starters' final evolutions are flamboyant show-offs and none of the Guardian Deities care about any perceived duties towards humanity.
Cosmog looks part pre-evo of legendaries, part offspring, and part unconnected Celestial Servant, but at least it's conclusively not a sealed form. It's funny how accurately I nailed the etymology of its name with "Clouds For Arms", and my suspicion that it evolves into "Encased In Gold" is looking more and more accurate.
Competitively, Gen 7 is looking REALLY high-powered right now. Two new trapping damaging moves, 3 out of 4 Guardian Deities getting Mega Charizard Y levels of pump with their abilities...I predict several of last generation's Ubers getting unbanned into OU at this rate.
Regarding competitive
Would it be correct for me to assume that Decidueye will get immediately banned to Ubers due to Spirit Shackle, even if the 'mon itself doesn't turn out to be particularly good?
Quote from: Dudeman on October 28, 2016, 08:58:41 AMRegarding competitive
Would it be correct for me to assume that Decidueye will get immediately banned to Ubers due to Spirit Shackle, even if the 'mon itself doesn't turn out to be particularly good?
Response
I don't think so. Loads of Pokemon get Mean Look, which traps but doesn't damage and fades upon its setter switching out, and Mean Look is so bad that it isn't used competitively. We'll need to test Thousand Waves and Spirit Shackle before we can figure out if they're ban-worthy or not. It's possible that they both fade on their setters switching out or Spirit Shackle deals Rapid Spin-levels of damage, for example.
Quote from: Dudeman on October 28, 2016, 08:58:41 AMRegarding competitive
Would it be correct for me to assume that Decidueye will get immediately banned to Ubers due to Spirit Shackle, even if the 'mon itself doesn't turn out to be particularly good?
no, when a new metagame starts we're going to have mons like genesect, deoxys-speed(& defense), m-kang, m-mawile, aegislash, landorus-i brought back to see how they fit in the metagame. they will be back until the ou council and suspect test votings decide the outcome of those mons. a lot of them will eventually be banned, but they are still given a fair chance with community suspect tests.
but decidueye will definitely be good, it's a grass type that can beat other grass types :]
Quote from: Waddle Bro on October 29, 2016, 05:46:16 AMno, when a new metagame starts we're going to have mons like genesect, deoxys-speed(& defense), m-kang, m-mawile, aegislash, landorus-i brought back to see how they fit in the metagame. they will be back until the ou council and suspect test votings decide the outcome of those mons. a lot of them will eventually be banned, but they are still given a fair chance with community suspect tests.
but decidueye will definitely be good, it's a grass type that can beat other grass types :]
You're right - but first will come the game mechanics-finding stage I alluded to in my response. Smogon gets to unban Aegislash, Genesect, Mega Lucario, possibly the cover legendaries, etc. after we figure out such debatable blurry areas as these that the full game will answer:
Likely game mechanics spoilers and speculation
- How much damage Spirit Shackle does, whether it still traps when Decidueye isn't in, etc.
- How many Ultra Beasts you can put in your team at once (it's possible that we have a Kyurem-B/W case on our hands and you can't get 2 or more Ultra Beasts at once because you have only one item to capture and hold them with)
- Whether you can battle with Zygarde-Complete without needing to get Zygarde-Not-Complete below 50% health
- What health level Wishiwashi School Form reverts back to its tiny fish form at
- Whether Smogon lets people battle with Z-Moves (I suspect yes, but they've banned all kinds of items and stuff)
- Whether the Paralysis nerf in the demo applies in the full game
- Whether Alolan Forms have different stat distributions from regular old Kanto forms
Spoiler
Concerning Spirit Shackle's damage, take a look at the Japanese trailer. Unless that Decidueye is massively overleveled or that Alolan Raichu has terrible defense on top of being weak to Ghost, I don't think the damage is going to be anything to sniff at.
I personally predict that you won't be able to catch the Ultra Beasts. Since they're not Pokémon, would Pokéballs even work on them?
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on October 30, 2016, 02:26:49 AMI personally predict that you won't be able to catch the Ultra Beasts. Since they're not Pokémon, would Pokéballs even work on them?
Answer
That was my initial thought, too, as Ultra Beasts are not promoted as Pokemon and Game Freak has shown precedents in letting you battle the uncapturable (that don't show up in Pokédexes). Unfortunately, the demo data mines have revealed that there is an item that lets you capture Ultra Beasts.
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on October 30, 2016, 02:26:49 AMI personally predict that you won't be able to catch the Ultra Beasts. Since they're not Pokémon, would Pokéballs even work on them?
They're just fancy names for boss Pokemon. (Like White/Black Kyruem in BW2) You'll pretty much be able to catch them post-game, I can assure you based on trends
Someone on 4Chan got the full version of Moon and is posting pictures of it.
Let the fun games begin
Spoiler
(https://is.4chan.org/vp/1478519081633.jpg)
Wasn't given the nickname "Soccer Ball" but good enough IMO
Eleven days before launch? Dang... This might be as big as the Smash Bros. 3DS leak.
Looks like I'm going into hibernation mode! :P
Anyone set on doing a Sun/Moon LP? ^^ I'll be releasing some sheet videos upon release and it'll be awesome if i could steal your videos we could collaborate on this :)
No capture device for 3DS and I don't plan to make a memory retrospective on SM so I'm not doing one.
Speaking of which, more spoilers about difficulty/post game
Spoiler
It's a miracle! Evil Team boss is actually super difficult and hits hard with crazy stat boosts. Nuzlockers will cry.
E4 & Champion appear to be on the same level as the BW1 ones... Meaning pretty tough and will require thinking (charging headfirst will lead to death)
Red isn't as strong as he was in HGSS sadly, but makes up for it with perfect EVS/IVs
SOMEONE FROM THE BATTLE FRONTIER RETURNS HELL YES but I don't know what she does
Seems like they held the best things back for the final game. GF pretty much gave me a lack of excitement throughout the past nine months but it seems that there is more to the game than the dull previews made it out to be. On the verge of buying it new now, but must get confirmation on the sidequests before I jump
EDIT: Spoiler about the battle tree.
Spoiler
Nine trainers. What the hell? This is getting to be borderline disappointing again
May as well warn everyone:
The data miners have already gotten hold of the full game and spilled very nearly all its contents.
Additionally, the 4chan user has released the ROM s/he used. (The data miners must have used a different ROM, as they started leaking before that ROM was released.)
(If anyone else brings up stuff in spoiler tags, I'm happy to discuss the new Pokemon!)
So, I looked at some spoilers for JUST the nerfs/buffs and oh my god well
Spoiler
LMAO LEECH LIFE IS 80 BP
RIP GENGAR, I KNEW YOU WELL WHEN YOU HAD LEVITATE
FUCKING CORSOLA AND MASQUERAIN GOT BUFFED
Moves
100 BP PHYSICAL ICE MOVE. inb4 kyurem-b still doesn't get it
Solar Blade seems pretty cool as well.
Spotlight seems like a great counter to Follow Me as well.
Bug gets some good moves as well, like First Impression (now I'm feeling slightly disappointed with all the abilities that counter priority ah haha) and Pollen Puff (good for doubles/triples).
Power Trip is gr8.
Burn Up is INTERESTING.
Speed Swap will have very interesting effects on the tiers if it's viable; if enough Pokemon get it, it might be the new Trick Room.
Purify is pretty great also... might also be good in singles, if a little gimmicky (I'm thinking of a status-centric team that uses more than one status effect, especially helpful if you're only able to get one layer of Toxic Spikes up).
trop kick best kick
best description ever
Aurora Veil might be good for Hail teams... as long as they have a better Hail setter.
Genesis Supernova is one of the most awesome move names ever. It's interesting how the name suggests only Mew gets to use it, not Mewtwo (though if that were the case, then RIP Ubers).
Nice to see at least that Shell Trap is so powerful.
In general, I'm loving the Z-Move animations so much, especially the starters' moves. They make you feel SO POWERFUL.
Dark Void got a heavy nerf in accuracy. RIP singles Darkrai. We had to lose your best/most frustrating attribute to save doubles. Also, it now "can only be used by Darkrai," which makes the accuracy decrease just rather sad.
Wailord can learn Noble Roar now, apparently.
Flygon gets Dragon Dance now! \o/
"Each Starter gets a Z-Move. Z-Moves also bypass Protect... but deal less damage (roughly 25% of the original). Marshadow, Mew, Pikachu, Snorlax, Alola Raichu, and Eevee also have their own Z-moves. There is also a "Pikashunium Z" in the game, which is used for the Ash-Pikachu (the one with the cap).
Z-Moves benefit non-attacking moves too! Every status move not called Nature Power, Metronome or Assist gain a side-effect when used as a Z-Move. For example, Z-Splash grants +3 Attack, and Z-Destiny Bond redirects all attacks to the user. Z-Celebrate/Happy Hour/Hold Hands/Conversion/Geomancy raise all stats +1 stage, and Z-Nature Power transforms into the respective Z-Move based on terrain (e.g. Energy Ball –> Bloom Doom). Z-Hidden Power always turns into Breakneck Blitz regardless of what type the Hidden power is. Z-Belly Drum restores HP before deducting 50%, allowing it to be used when the user has less than 50% HP."
Snorlax has to know Giga Impact to use its Z-Move... likewise, Eevee's move only works with Last Resort, Raichu's with Thunderbolt, and Mew's with Psychic.
Story
Only Hau is surprised about the revelation that Lusamine, Lillie, and Gladion are a family. Lusamine describing the ultra beasts as her "sweet beasts" is especially chilling.
Guzma and Lusamine are working together?
Colress reappears?
"Guzma specializes in Bug-types."
Other
Gengar nerf is AWFUL and WHY EVEN DID THEY DO THAT.
Gale Wings was also nerfed (only works at full HP, IIRC), which is actually pretty nice. Might make Talonflame UU (or lower...), but overall I think it promotes more balance.
legendary beasts now all have inner focus as hidden abilities
they did not need this nerf why
PELIPPER GETS DRIZZLE NOW. TORKOAL GETS DROUGHT. GIGALITH GETS SAND STREAM, BUT LOSES STURDY. VANILLUXE GETS SNOW WARNING!
Beartic gets a new ability called Slush Rush instead of Snow Clock. Is Hail buff actually happening?
"A few Pokémon have an increase in Attack. Arbok's Attack has increased from 85 to 95, while Dugtrio's increased from 80 to 100. Farfetch'd now has 90 Attack instead of 65. Beartic's and Crustle's both increased, from 95 to 105 and 110 to 130 respectively." Beartic's gonna be a beast now (say goodbye to PU, at least?).
"Dodrio, Electrode, and Delcatty have increased Speed stats. Dodrio's is now 110 instead of 100 and Electrode's increased from 140 to 150. Delcatty's Speed was raised from 70 to 90." electrode gotta go fast
"Exeggutor, Ariados, and Corsola have increased Special Defense. Exeggutor's went from 65 to 75, Ariados's from 60 to 70, and Corsola's from 85 to 95. Corsola also has an increase of Defense (from 85 to 95) and HP (from 55 to 65)."
"Noctowl's Special Attack is now 86 instead of 76. Swellow's Special Attack also increased from 50 to 75, and Pelipper's from 85 to 95. Masquerain has an increased Special Attack (from 80 to 100) as well as an increase in Speed (from 60 to 80)." masquerain will be the hero we deserve
"Qwilfish's Defense was raised from 75 to 85.
Mantine now has 85 base HP instead of 65. Lunatone and Solrock both now have 90 HP instead of 70, and Woobat has 65 instead of 55.
Volbeat and Illumise now have 75 Defense and 85 Special Defense, raised from 55 and 75 respectively.
Cryogonal now has 80 HP instead of 70 and 50 Defense instead of 30."
Starters have pretty good hidden abilities.
Alola has a bunch of slow Pokemon ehehehe.
Wishiwashi School Form has 620 BST. However, regular Wishiwashi is incredibly, incredibly weak.
Toxapex is going to be THAT annoying defensive Regenerator 'mon. Though, if you don't use Regenerator, for some reason, its main ability will make Venoshock pretty powerful.
salazze gen 7 heliolisk confirmed
also female-only for some reason
i am disappoint
Passimian seems pretty good as the new Defiant Pokemon to stop Defog, and has less of a glaring weakness than Bisharp... and more speed, too. Receiver seems rad as well, if gimmicky.
Golisopod is a BEAST. I wonder how that ability works, though; it's somewhat concerning given its lack of speed. Does it only work after it's done attacking, or does it happen right away? Because that might be bad. Seems like a better Barbaracle minus Shell Smash, though.
Pyukumuku might be good if it had like 20 most attack, but as it is, it's kind of meh.
Silvally is going to be NOICE.
Minior is disappointing, but probably solid NU material.
Togedemaru actually gets Sturdy!!! Mimikyu is somewhat disappointing as well, but its a total cutie so that's ok.
Anchor being Ghost/Grass is interesting. I'm pretty sure its ability gives it an effective Steel STAB, which is AWESOME. also "steel creeper" pokemon lol
Kommo-o has Overcoat as a Hidden Ability. That's all I need to say. At least it gets Belly Drum...?
The Island Guardians have fair BSTs, and Tapu Lele has pretty nice stats in particular.
Cosmog and its evo are interesting, but completely useless competitively. Do they... evolve into the legendaries!?
Solgaleo's stat spread is LUSCIOUS. Lunala's is ok given its ability/weaknesses, even if they're both just the same numbers swapped around a little. Still disappointed it wasn't Fairy/Dark to compliment/contrast with Solgaleo.
The Ultra Beasts are a little bit of a letdown, for being so hyped. Pheromosa, Xurkitree, Kartana, and Guzzlord are probably the most worthwhile ones. And Buzzwole will probably be ok with the Gale Wings nerf.
Marshadow is a Fighting/Ghost type; it looks like it has some nice moves at its disposal, but its ability isn't exactly the most helpful given its speed.
Alolan Raticate gets Thick Fat, and seems a little more defensive than offensive.
ALOLAN SANDSLASH GETS SLUSH RUSH... and a nice base stat spread refinement. Loses a little SpA, which is useless to it anyway, in exchange for defensive boosts.
Alolan Ninetales gets Snow Warning as well, which is NICE.
Alolan Persian is... a special attacker.
Alolan Golem is Rock/Electric and has the same base stats, and has Magnet Pull, Sturdy, and a new ability called Galvanize (Electric-type Explosion, anybody?).
Alolan Muk gets a hidden ability called POWER OF ALCHEMY, which might lead to some interesting combinations.
Alolan Exeggutor does get Harvest as a Hidden Ability.
Zygarde-Complete has a 216/100/121/91/95/85 base stat spread. That is all.
It's taking everything I've got not to dig into all of the new tracks and start arranging them
How does pokemon bank work?
You pay $5 a year to be able to store 3000 Pokémon in the cloud. You can transfer Pokémon freely between whatever game card you have inserted in your 3DS, and presumably any compatible downloaded version as well. Lots of free Poké Miles, or probably better, BP.
Specifically in regards to glitch pokemon and rby
For glitch Pokémon I'm assuming you're referring to just RBY? Anyway, I don't think compatibility with the VC games has been implemented yet.
It should be implemented in January, I believe.
Can't stop laughing over this article (http://kotaku.com/pokemon-sun-and-moon-pokedex-entries-get-pretty-dark-1788760230?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow)
Does This Need a Spoiler?
Woah, that Mega Evolution stuff is pretty messed up.
https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/
Team builder. Obvious spoilers here.
Pokedex entries getting brutally honest.
Quote from: Nebbles on November 09, 2016, 09:15:59 PMhttps://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/
Team builder. Obvious spoilers here.
Currently have Decidueye, Raichu, Crobat, Passimian, Sandslash, and Ash-Greninja in the final lineup. Obviously might change as I actually play through the game, but I think this might work.
Some of my thoughts:
Story
Like several others, I was wrong--no human character is an Ultra Beast. In fact, Lusamine semi-fusing with UB-01 "Symbiont" a.k.a. Nihilego is as close as it gets. Guzma does report being possessed by an Ultra Beast at one point, though--I suspect he was either possessed by Nihilego (its flavour text reports that it possesses others to the point that it moves like a young girl) or UB-03 "Lightning" a.k.a. Xurkitree (i.e. the one that resembles him).
I'm now stuck making this theory for why so many people resemble Ultra Beasts: It's actually the other way around. People made themselves resemble Ultra Beasts. Gladion's heard his mother Lusamine spout her mouth off about them for long enough (although technically, the 'mon that Gladion took the shoulder spikes from, Necrozma, is not treated as an Ultra Beast). Lusamine's beauty-obsessed enough to make herself resemble UB-02 "Beauty" a.k.a. Pheromosa. Maybe that possession rubbed off on Guzma.
In the meantime, I don't know whether Lusamine was entirely motivated by a desire to bring her husband back (as Gladion rationalizes) or she got shot with euphoria drugs by Nihilego a long time ago. Given its flavour text in the post-storyline and its Rock/Poison typing, Nihilego looks like the Pokemon representation of drugs.
Interestingly, Cosmog evolutionary line confirmed, and that line is treated as an Ultra Beast by the Aether Foundation.
Flavour Discussion
Seems like the Pokedex entries are more macabre this time around. They get to the point where I doubt that the Dragonite(s) treated this man well in this Pokedex entry:
"This Pokemon saved a shipwrecked man, taking him to a remote island--a paradise occupied solely by Dragonite."
For reference, this is Dragonite's other Pokedex entry:
"Incur the wrath of this normally calm Pokemon at your peril, because it will smash everything to smithereens before it's satisfied."
In the meantime, Golisopod is pretty hilarious. Wimpod runs away once it's injured hard enough, and then it evolves into Golisopod, a giant, macho sumo wrestler crustacean that...strategically retreats once it's injured just as hard.
Competitive Discussion
Shame loads of move pools are shallow overall (although that might be expected). Tapu Koko and Tapu Bulu don't get Play Rough despite being physical-leaning Fairies. Kommo-o's highest-powered physical Fighting move is Sky Uppercut. I'm hard-pressed to find Pokemon that have just enough coverage to take care of everything.
Silvally looks disappointingly weak with a 95-in-all-base-stats spread, but at least it gets Parting Shot and a wide move pool (for once).
The Guardian Deities have pretty good base stat spreads--they just don't necessarily have the move pools to back them up, as I've mentioned above. It does look like Tapu Lele has all she needs coverage-wise, though, with Focus Blast to go along with Moonblast and a Psychic attack.
The Ultra Beasts (and Necrozma) have pretty scary base stat spreads. Pheromosa has Deoxys-A-like stats and boosts its Speed with each KO. Just be thankful that they have holes in their coverage.
Marshadow has unresisted coverage in its Ghost/Fighting types alone, and it gets Technician STAB Shadow Sneak. It also has base 125 attack and speed. It's already scary. Imagine this getting another form in the next Gen 7 games...
Pokemon Showdown
This is the first generation where I'm interested in trying out Pokemon Showdown--I want in on this new, high-powered meta. Something like this is likely the first team I'll be trying in OU (I lurk on Smogon regularly but have never played on Pokemon Showdown before):
Tapu Koko @ Life Orb
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spd
Naive Nature
- Wild Charge
- Dazzling Gleam
- Work Up
- Roost
I am determined to make Tapu Koko work. He's got one of the best typings among Guardian Deities (he's notably neutral to Steel), and with Electric Surge automatically putting up Electric Terrain, his Electric attacks hit like mack trucks. I've read some calcs saying that even a special attacker Tapu Koko (his base special attack is 95, while his base attack is 115) has comparable power to Xurkitree, who has a base special attack of 173. Imagine how hard the physical variant can hit. I want him to be more of a set-up sweeper with Work Up and Roost.
Magearna @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Soul Heart
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Timid Nature
- Fleur Cannon
- Flash Cannon
- Aura Sphere
- Volt Switch
Magearna has just enough of a move pool to have All She Needs coverage-wise. Volt Switch lets her be more hit-and-run. Her Speed sucks the most, so a Choice Scarf should patch that up. ...No, I don't care how much Mega Mawile will probably be the better Steel/Fairy while it's legal.
Landorus-T @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 8 SpD / 8 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- U-turn
Boring old defensive Landorus-T is going to be my main Ground resist immunity and SR setter. I'll be leaning on him pretty hard as a defensively synergistic pivot (because the two Fairies above are both weak to Ground), so I've put Leftovers on him instead of the standard Rocky Helmet.
Wishiwashi @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Schooling
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpA
Brave Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- U-turn
At this point, I think I need a bulky Water just for the resists, and I'd rather not have a third Fairy. I'd try something like Manaphy, but given Wishiwashi School Form's base stat spread (45/140/130/140/135/30), it looks like Aegislash Returned to me. ...Except for not having to press King's Shield to get its good defences back and for sucking when at 25% health or below. I predict that the meta will be fast-paced enough that Leftovers will leave it in Solo Form for too long.
Decidueye @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow (Long Reach instead when it's available)
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Spirit Shackle
- Leaf Blade
- Roost
- U-turn
The Rowlet line is still my favourite starter evolutionary line of this generation (I like Rowlet the most), and this guy's goal is to lure Dark-types and U-turn into the two Fairies (and, hopefully, Tapu Koko can set up on the forced switch). It'll no doubt attract too many Normal-types, and it's stuck using Leaf Blade and U-turn against them, but at least Normal doesn't resist anything besides its Ghost immunity. I prefer it over the other Grass/Ghost Dhelmise, who has a Steel-type trapping move that nothing is immune to, because Decidueye should be better at luring Dark-types with its trapping move.
Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Recover
- Defog
I'm running out of ideas for 6th 'mons, so I may as well get a Defogger that hits hard. Having another Ground immunity is nifty, and his Dark, Dragon, Bug, and Ice weaknesses are pretty well-covered.
Regarding Primeape's entry
Once upon a time there was an angry Primeape.
He was so angry that he died.
The end.
Quote from: Dude on November 10, 2016, 05:25:43 AMRegarding Primeape's entry
Once upon a time there was an angry Primeape.
He was so angry that he died.
The end.
That right there is a quality post.
Isn't that basically it!?!?
That's what makes it quality.
NOA/TPCI took down the PP leaks so I can't find out what they said about myself (Braixen), my pet Articuno, and my god Spewpa... :(
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on November 11, 2016, 01:42:01 PMNOA/TPCI took down the PP leaks so I can't find out what they said about myself (Braixen), my pet Articuno, and my god Spewpa... :(
Shoot, if I only knew what PP leaks were...
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 11, 2016, 04:24:24 PMShoot, if I only knew what PP leaks were...
hehe
Peepee leaks
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 11, 2016, 04:24:24 PMShoot, if I only knew what PP leaks were...
Project Pokemon
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on November 11, 2016, 01:42:01 PMNOA/TPCI took down the PP leaks so I can't find out what they said about myself (Braixen), my pet Articuno, and my god Spewpa... :(
TheDreamingHawk is braixen1264??? Whaaaat???
Game Theory: BRAIXEN1264 is THEDREAMINGHAWK??
Game Theory is a load of bullshit
But that's just a theory.
8)
A GAME THEORY
I don't like YouTube channels that have degenerated into clickbait, but I suppose it's what you have to do once YouTube becomes your job.
Or you can just be a good YouTuber who doesn't need to rely on clickbait to get views
Quote from: Dude on November 11, 2016, 07:05:24 PMhehe
Peepee leaks
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F245wzg2.png&hash=3d71eeb59d5913a9359c6d968200fc9c01ae3e86)
C-c-c-combo breaker!!!
Quote from: braixen1264 on November 11, 2016, 08:09:25 PMGame Theory is a load of bullshit
thank you
EDIT: FUCK YOU TOO BDS GOSH
You're a mod you can just delete his post
anyway
5 DAYS
Preordered my copy today! GameStop is doing 40% extra trade in credit if you put it toward a Pokémon preorder, so my copy of Mario Kart 7, Corpse Party, and Fire Emblem Awakening combined gave me $75 in store credit 😬
My 3DS has been constantly crashing during gameplay. I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Probably karma for being a scalper.
My dad asked me if there was one I was wanting of the two, and I said Moon, and he said "Alright, I'll tell Mom (his mother) to get you Sun for Christmas."
You don't joke with me like that, man!
Quote from: Olimar12345 on November 13, 2016, 06:05:59 PMProbably karma for being a scalper.
stfu I didn't wait outside in Alaska to buy the NES mini with the intention of reselling
I'm only reselling because people are stupid enough to buy it for hundreds of dollars even though it's getting restocked sometime next week
the Famicom mini has already been restocked in Japan
I probably should have told you guys earlier but, if you don't want to be spoiled, don't go to Smogon's Sun and Moon forum section. It's smothered with new Pokemon and Alolan Form names (out of context), and you can make some decent deductions about which 'mons have the most interesting move pools and best stats by seeing which names are on the first page.
On a slightly related note, when do you predict Sun and Moon will be out on Pokemon Showdown? The optics look horrible if it's out on the day of the NOA release, but Smogon's Research thread has enough information to build a decent Showdown version of Sun and Moon already.
Quote from: shadowkirby on November 13, 2016, 06:10:46 PMI'm only reselling because people are stupid enough to buy it for hundreds of dollars
pretty much definition of scalper
I totally forgot about this game, preordered it months and months ago when Amazon decreed 20% discount for preorders, got a nice surprise when I see it pop up as shipping soon...!
Lol I already have Sun, I'm starting tomorrow.
i didn't budget any money for it because i thought it was going to be shit, but one of my friends already has it and he says it's actually pretty good
so that's cool
How do people already have it
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 09, 2016, 04:55:25 AMMay as well warn everyone:
The data miners have already gotten hold of the full game and spilled very nearly all its contents.
Additionally, the 4chan user has released the ROM s/he used. (The data miners must have used a different ROM, as they started leaking before that ROM was released.)
I'm guessing that everyone with the game downloaded a leaked ROM. Dunno where the Sun one's from, as the 4chan user leaked Pokemon Moon.
It also did leak early in some places.
I'm not allowed to buy games so idk how I'm gonna get my hands on this game but I'll get it somehow
Reviews have been nothing but positive for Sun/Moon so far, apparently.
While I typically don't trust most main series Pokemon reviews (either due to most not making it to the post game which is a make/break situation), I did enjoy Nintendo Life's review as they flat out confirmed it's the most challenging of the main stories out of all the Pokemon games. This makes me happy I'm planning to pick it up on friday, although my amazon woes (https://seafoamgaming.com/2016/11/13/my-rough-experience-with-pokemon-moon-on-amazon/) may make me have to go to Gamestop on friday instead.
...most challenging main story?
I AM READY.
Quote from: Nebbles on November 15, 2016, 03:56:17 PM...most challenging main story?
I AM READY.
Ohhh boy.
Me is hyped :D
Kill myself
4 hours in. I fought one of the early boss-type characters 3 times before I beat them. Lvl 6 Pokemon are giving my Lvl 10 Pokemon a challenge. Definitely harder.
I'm in love with this game. Everything feels so alive, the colors are incredibly vibrant, the story, even early on, is intruiging, the soundtrack is beautiful, and it's just an amazing Pokemon game. At this point It's right up there with Heartgold/Soulsilver as best Pokemon. I'm obviously not to the post-game yet, and HGSS's will be hard to beat. But the pre-post-game is amazing.
Quote from: shadowkirby on November 15, 2016, 10:50:59 PM4 hours in. I fought one of the early boss-type characters 3 times before I beat them. Lvl 6 Pokemon are giving my Lvl 10 Pokemon a challenge.
kill myself then bury the body
A level 12 Rufflet who keeps calling for help will do it for you!!!!!! RIP in peace, Pearl the Pikipek
I can't see the resemblance tho...
Spoiler
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette2.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fnickelodeon%2Fimages%2Fc%2Fc9%2FPearl_Krabs_the_Whale_SpongeBob_SquarePants_Nickelodeon_TV_Series_Character_3.png%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20151226185148&hash=a2f5b14053cb8d4c075e95f6a5ee7dc31dcfcc08)
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemon-sunmoon.com%2Fmedia%2Fuploads%2Fjune_14_assets%2Fpikipek.png&hash=3293fa514db077583a27bf8485993524a4c7d177)
(https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.228898070.1565/sticker,220x200-pad,220x200,ffffff.jpg)
I feel the need to share this:
https://www.gamnesia.com/news/pokemon-sun-moon-reference-igns-infamous-7.8-10-too-much-water-review
*slow nod*
Also, if "UB-03" isn't banned to Ubers, I'm definitely using it on my team.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on November 16, 2016, 05:38:13 PM*slow nod*
Also, if "UB-03" isn't banned to Ubers, I'm definitely using it on my team.
Spoiler
Last time I looked at Smogon, the leading Ultra Beast candidates to get banned to Ubers were UB-02 "Beauty" a.k.a. Pheromosa and UB-04 "Blade" a.k.a. Kartana (i.e. the one with chopsticks on its body).
Prepping for the line at Gamestop at midnight, hopefully the game isn't sold out by the time I get it!
BTW What are all your guys team plans (if you have one like me)?
Mine is: Incineroar, Vikivolt, Slowbro, Mudsdale, Turtonator, and Metagross.
Quote from: DocDoom2 on November 17, 2016, 06:22:48 PMPrepping for the line at Gamestop at midnight, hopefully the game isn't sold out by the time I get it!
BTW What are all your guys team plans (if you have one like me)?
Mine is: Incineroar, Vikivolt, Slowbro, Mudsdale, Turtonator, and Metagross.
I'm currently using Pearl the Toucannon, Torracat, Jolteon, Sylveon, and Psytama the Psyduck.
Quote from: DocDoom2 on November 17, 2016, 06:22:48 PMPrepping for the line at Gamestop at midnight, hopefully the game isn't sold out by the time I get it!
BTW What are all your guys team plans (if you have one like me)?
Mine is: Incineroar, Vikivolt, Slowbro, Mudsdale, Turtonator, and Metagross.
lol how does a game sell out at midnight
Ran into Etika at Nintendo NYC while waiting for Pokémon :3
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 17, 2016, 07:55:34 PMlol how does a game sell out at midnight
Oh I meant like by the time I get there since it most likely will be after midnight when I do xD
Quote from: Latios212 on November 17, 2016, 08:12:34 PMRan into Etika at Nintendo NYC while waiting for Pokémon :3
Did he have his "Switch" with him?
Quote from: DocDoom2 on November 17, 2016, 08:17:39 PMOh I meant like by the time I get there since it most likely will be after midnight when I do xD
Did he have his "Switch" with him?
how does a game sell out the day it comes out
Phew, so glad I got to the store in time to get my copy of Sun! /s
(There were still 3 displayed copies of each)
Lol yeah people are freaking out about stock but Nintendo literally shipped over ten million copies of this game to America
Also I named my Rowlet Miles because he reminds me of Edgeworth
Said "fuck it, I'm an impatient bastard" and downloaded the game digitally onto my 4Gb SD card. Had to delete Pokémon Picross and Planet Robobot to do it but NO REGRETS
IMMA HAVE A NEW POKÉMON GAME WHEN I GET HOME FROM WORK
Lol I feel lucky to work the night shift
Amazon preorder master race got my copy yesterday in the mail.
I'll try to get it next year
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T-WAVE AND SUCKER PUNCH GOT NERFED! OOOOO.
Sun and Moon are great, y'all. Current mainstays of my team are Dartrix (Decidueye), Hariyama, and Gumshoos. Looking at finalizing it to Pelipper (unless I get another good water-type), Ribombee, and either a fire-type or an electric-type (I have a Pikachu, all I need is a Thunder Stone).
Gumshoos is still the best ever btw
How appropriate! (And punctual, by jove!)
I started about an hour ago. I am so incredibly impressed by the diversity of plant life both inside and outside. Alola is so beautiful. And I got to hold a baby leaf owl.
10/10 Best game ever.
Can someone make a gif of gumshoos using breakneck charge because it's the funniest thing I've ever seen in a pokemon game
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479333500
Gen 7 OU is LIT.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479353411
Trying a hazard variation. Works rather well in concept.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479377004
V3, featuring Zygarde.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479391152
Another good battle, featuring a slight modification to V3.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479394423
GEN 7 SO FULL OF POWERFUL NUKES I CAN'T EVEN
Yay finished the game! Yeah... Kinda binge-played...
But my reaction to the end of the story:
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"Heck no, that ship has my name on it Lillie, don't you dare! NO... I wanted to go back to Kanto..."
Also was annoying having a blizzard hit 5 times in a row, along with focus blast, I appreciate Game Freak trying to make the games a bit harder, but when it just feels like you're in the Battle Maison all the time it's no fun...
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on November 19, 2016, 03:53:45 PMhttp://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479333500
Gen 7 OU is LIT.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479353411
Trying a hazard variation. Works rather well in concept.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479377004
V3, featuring Zygarde.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479391152
Another good battle, featuring a slight modification to V3.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-479394423
GEN 7 SO FULL OF POWERFUL NUKES I CAN'T EVEN
Last time I checked Smogon, leading candidates to get banned from OU are Aegislash (again), followed by
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UB-02 "Beauty" a.k.a. Pheromosa
Admittedly, if they're that scared of the second 'mon on that list, I can see why they didn't unban Darkrai despite
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the Dark Void nerf--its accuracy is now reduced to 50% and Smeargle can't profitably Sketch it anymore, so Darkrai may as well not use that move anymore in Singles
Greninja (all versions) are on track to not get re-banned.
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Toxapex laughs at Water/Ice/Poison/Fighting/Fire/etc. coverage and can apparently shrug off Dark/Grass coverage. Tapu Koko outspeeds and OHKOs and some people already want that Guardian Deity banned, too...
I have to admit that nukes.meta is part of why I'm trying Pokemon Showdown now, although I seem to be slapping Landorus(-I/-T) on every team and he's still scared of how common Ice coverage is. I did have a hilarious time once when I made Decidueye Roost twice in a row against my opponent's Mega Mawile Sucker Punching twice in a row, though...and then I KO'd the already weakened Mega Mawile after I figured my opponent wasn't dumb enough to Sucker Punch a third time.
I just got moon yay
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pokebankdoublesou-479585710
I call this one, "The FABULOUS Ultra Beast."
I FINALLY GOT MIMIKYU
Anyone else find the story and characters boring to the point of obnoxious?
@Gladion
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Yup pretty much
I also just finished the game. Here's my short thoughts on some endgame story things (I'll save technical gameplay thoughts for my website review)
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First off that stupid Magnezone. Never has a single pokemon given me such a hard time in a CPU battle since Ghestis's Cofagirius in BW1. Don't know whether to love it as I missed such a challenge or to hate it due to the fear it gave me afterwards...
...When I spent FIFTY MINUTES in the ending. For crying out loud, so long and drawn out without being able to save, and trying to catch Tapu Koko in 30 ultra balls only to fail drove me insane.
In regards to the postgame I'm sorta mixed how its taking the BW1 route of having every CPU be overleveled instead of at a level where you would be able to progress naturally.
Though I did enjoy the Anabel battle, and that was the thing that made me decide to buy the game to begin with, so thank you Game Freak for at least acknowledging that they exist. Now to try and fight her in the battle tree...
Pre-Island 4 spoilers
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near endgame
alright so I'm in front of the elite four mountain now. This is literally the fastest I've ever played through a game. I really disliked how predictable everything was and I don't like the new cookie cutter story routine with the 3DS pokemon games. Mostly I have nothing but complaints about this game, but I didn't dislike it. Like, I wasn't expecting much to begin with and I went in blind, so a lot of pokemon really confused me, especially typing since I legitimately couldn't tell what types any of the pokemon were. I think I'm going to write a review in my boring thread though where I'd go more in depth about what I specifically liked and disliked about it
Sorry, but I just have to rant about the Battle Royal and I refuse to let anything stop me. Good god, I think it may be
worse than the Battle Maison. All the enemy pokemon gang up on you and can use Mega Evolution along with Z-Moves. And this is just the Normal Rank BTW, I dread to think of the Master Rank.
Like usual CPUs use abilities you can't even earn yet due to fake padding by the game developers, (Protean Greninja is still irritating) not to mention that it has an obsession with duplicating Pokemon. (I just fought two Swamperts with similar movesets in the same match) I barely made it through my round alive thanks to a lucky Power Whip, but it also managed to bring the point home of how every pokemon in this region is so damn slow. My team DID OHKO the enemy pokemon when we got a hit, but we were so slow and being attacked by three at once just led to all out hell.
Seriously, just let me get my EV Trained Articuno and Noivern brought over so I can boomburst blizzard everyone to death. Or at least make the World champion QR teams available so I can rent those teams until bank is released from prison.
Of course the first obvious reply you may give is to EV Train my Pokemon... But the thing is, you can't. Seriously, there's no super training and SOS EV training is impossible since you can't attack with a Level 1 Pokemon. (If you can distribute EVs to level 1 Pokemon without having them go to Poke Pelago or battle themselves I'd love to learn) I can't seem to unlock the IV Training mode either and that seems to be because you need to be at level 100 to do so, something that I think will be downright impossible to do in this game without endless rematches against
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The Elite Four/Title Defense. There, I gave a spoiler tag out of courtesy since I'm not dumb.
EDIT: Already found a possible exploit looking back on my match. If you sent out an electric type like I did, teach it moves that would be SE against the types that would be SE against it. For example a power whip for taking out ground types.
To my research, all I have left to do is collect Zygarde Pieces and TMs... And then I'll run out of stuff to do outside of completing the dex.
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Which is going to be a bit boring even when the fake padding is removed as lo and behold THEY FUCKING REMOVED THE NATIONAL DEX. You get the Shiny Charm for completing the Alolan dex instead.
I mean, I guess I could play with people at the local TCG league (Already fought against my friends online) every tuesday, but I think I may be heading back to La Mulana soon. At least the post-story was good this time around.
When I get my overall motivation back and let my anger over recent events in my life subside I'll write my review of this game to give more thoughts in detail on the game as a whole. Thankfully the cheapness of the battle royal is the only major issue I've had so far. (Haven't tried battle tree yet due to me not having a capable team, as this whole fiasco proved)
So I finished the game. I'm very pleased with it, all in all. I thought the story was actually really good. It was also slightly challenging due to the team I had put together. I was missing some key type coverage going into the Elite Four and nearly paid dearly for it.
ending
Of course, the whole thing culminated in the battle with the "Champion," Professor Kukui, which was a very exciting match. It came down to my last Pokemon, my signature Jolteon that I've had through every game that he was obtainable in the series, which was already at low health from the previous opponent. Kukui's last Pokemon ended up being his Braviary, which worked out in my favor. Unfortunately, I misclicked the first turn and used Thunder Wave, which ended up working out in my favor because para hax won the day, and I ended it off with a sick Gigavolt Havoc to beat the game. It was so fitting that my favorite Pokemon was the one to beat the Champion, especially since he hadn't done much at all through the rest of the game. Nearly brought a tear to my eye.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 20, 2016, 12:12:36 PMAnyone else find the story and characters boring to the point of obnoxious?
@Gladion
I'm not that far into it yet but I'm laughing because we always have the opposite opinions on game stories
Anyway Hau is my favorite character right now
As a rival, Hau is the worst rival of all time.
As a character, Hau is f***ing hilarious and I love him.
Quote from: Dudeman on November 21, 2016, 04:48:10 PMAs a rival, Hau is the worst rival of all time.
He has the basic decency to actually
heal your Pokémon when ambushing you for a battle
I just want another scumbag rival :(
there hasn't been a scumbag rival since GEN 2 HGSS don't count, those are remakes
Barry struck me as a scumbag
@poll
Tapu Koko is clearly the best. Reasons:
- Tapu Koko brings forth Electric Terrain, which makes Xurkitree even scarier.
- Tapu Koko does not hide in its shell like Tapu Fini; no, it goes forth and FIGHTS, like a TRUE GUARDIAN DEITY.
- Tapu Koko doesn't want anything to do with that prissy-a** Psychic Terrain like Tapu Lele does. Like seriously, whoever designs this stuff had a serious grudge against all things priority. TWO abilities weren't enough already? Thanks for breaking BH, guys!
- Tapu Koko doesn't cower in fear against Poison types like Tapu Bulu; also, Tapu Bulu's about as ugly as I thought it would be.
- Tapu Koko has great speed. It has the greatest speed. It puts the speed of all the others to shame.
Eh you know what, screw Ash-Pikachu... I want Tapu Koko wearing Ash's hat!!!
Quote from: Dudeman on November 21, 2016, 05:19:29 PMI just want another scumbag rival :(
there hasn't been a scumbag rival since GEN 2 HGSS don't count, those are remakes
Gen III may was that way IMO as she'd come out of nowhere and battle you when you least exoect it
And then blocks the entrance to a helpful store if you don't battle her
Moreso entitled than anything else
Primaries is basically water gardevoir
No Move Tutors... WHY? (I mean other than Draco Meteor, Volt Tackle, etc.)
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on November 21, 2016, 07:48:06 AMAt least the post-story was good this time around.
I haven't figured out if I'm even in the postgame yet lol
Quote from: DocDoom2 on November 21, 2016, 07:58:05 PMNo Move Tutors... WHY? (I mean other than Draco Meteor, Volt Tackle, etc.)
I haven't figured out if I'm even in the postgame yet lol
All the good move tutors are in the third game and the remakes of each generation. At least stuff can learn Draco Meteor in every game.
In the meantime, I'm still amused at how none of the Guardian Deities fulfill any "duties" towards guarding humanity:
- Tapu Koko often won't answer calls for help, although it/he'll likely rescue you if it/he's passing by.
- Tapu Lele hands out healies and Stimpaks to everyone, regardless of whether anyone actually needs them. Game Freak even says this over-distribution is harmful.
- Tapu Bulu will defend its/his territory, but is otherwise too lazy and/or docile to care.
- Tapu Fini outright thinks enough of humanity is evil to force everyone to go through thick fields of fog for its/her healies.
...Well, at least Tapu Koko goes out and meets people.
A day or two later, leading candidates to get banished to Ubers from OU are Aegislash (again), Pheromosa, and Zygarde (at least with Power Construct, 50% Forme, and Thousand Arrows). Landorus-I is avoiding getting called out like a boss. I hear the occasional mutter that Magearna will get the axe after Aegislash does because she checks too many Pokemon in a similar manner.
endgame/ending
After hearing multiple proclamations about the Merged Lusamine battle being hard/annoying, I found it to be much easier than I expected. Her clefairy was annoying in the sense that it used recover 3-4 times in a row, but other than that it wasn't all that bad. My pokemon were 0-3 levels above hers, with the exception of my lvl 48 kadabra (which contributed significantly against bewear). It would've been a lot harder (and more interesting) if it was some sort of 2 on 1 battle where we fight Merged Lusamine along with her team but I can see why that didn't happen
Imo the Mallow trial was more difficult (not the only one, but the one that stands out the most) and I actually had to restart a few times. Maybe it was just my unbalanced team composition leaning towards more SE moves against Lusamine as opposed to Lurantis. I don't fare well against grass and fire either
All that being considered, I can definitely see how this game is harder than the average pokemon game and it makes me intrigued to see how a nuzlocke (especially randomized with the whole calling for help thing) would play out. Also, the game seems like it could have a sequel with the league fully built-in as well as some Kanto business with Lillie (it doesn't have to mean returning to Kanto ourselves), but I'm not expecting it
Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 21, 2016, 12:19:30 PMSo I finished the game. I'm very pleased with it, all in all. I thought the story was actually really good. It was also slightly challenging due to the team I had put together. I was missing some key type coverage going into the Elite Four and nearly paid dearly for it.
ending
Of course, the whole thing culminated in the battle with the "Champion," Professor Kukui, which was a very exciting match. It came down to my last Pokemon, my signature Jolteon that I've had through every game that he was obtainable in the series, which was already at low health from the previous opponent. Kukui's last Pokemon ended up being his Braviary, which worked out in my favor. Unfortunately, I misclicked the first turn and used Thunder Wave, which ended up working out in my favor because para hax won the day, and I ended it off with a sick Gigavolt Havoc to beat the game. It was so fitting that my favorite Pokemon was the one to beat the Champion, especially since he hadn't done much at all through the rest of the game. Nearly brought a tear to my eye.
taking the spoiler into account
I share nearly the same sentiment as you about the game, except the Title Defence battle was more enjoyable due to the setting/circumstances rather than it being that close of a battle. Overall I really liked the new direction GameFreak took (not just this, but in general)
I was really disappointed that kanto isn't in the post game, I thought that was gonna happen. I saved my master ball for mewtwo and everything
Edit: that being said this post game is AWESOME. I just ran into this pokemon named necrozma?
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 21, 2016, 11:08:09 PMAegislash (again)
It's hard to support this when I have so much on my teams that can setup in its face without danger and then proceed to OHKO Aegislash-
Shield. Personally, the more Aegislash, the merrier.
QuotePheromosa
Understandable, though I worry about how it will fare in Ubers.
QuoteZygarde (at least with Power Construct, 50% Forme, and Thousand Arrows)
I understand why, but I wouldn't like it. Coil Zygarde-Complete is an absolute beast (and it beats Dragon Dance sets!).
QuoteLandorus-I is avoiding getting called out like a boss. I hear the occasional mutter that Magearna will get the axe after Aegislash does because she checks too many Pokemon in a similar manner.
I wouldn't mind Landorus-I getting banned, personally, if only because it would make my team work so much more smoothly. I've only encountered a few Magearna thus far; IMO, it's better in Doubles, and rather lackluster in singles because of its low speed (super prone to getting revenge killed, which makes its ability less useful).
Meanwhile, Alolan Marowak is being a pretty nasty thorn in my side in non-Pokebank OU (and unlike any of the others you mentioned, it has a very very low probability of being banned). At least it doesn't get STAB Earthquake anymore.
The day stupid Landorus T gets banned from VGC/Rating battles is the day I'll be happy
Sick of seeing that stupid thing everywhere
Speaking of competitive, I just spent a good 15 minutes grinding on SOS gastly for EVs and when I took out who knows how many of them my stupid Komono gained only like 10 evs
I miss super training and horde battles already. Seriously how do folks get so many EVs with these SOS battles? It can't just be Pokerus and Power items, since the EVs for SOS battles are supposed to double and I defeated around 20 of them at least, so shouldn't I have over 100 or so?
Argh, add one point to my hatred of artificial padding out of a game since I can't import my Pokerus spreaders and finding a new one is impossible
EDIT: Found out I was only getting two per battle the entire time despite guides that claimed it would constantly double
I feel angry right now.
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me. Towards the end of the game MY TEAM CONTRACTED POKÉRUS NATURALLY
THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE I'M SO HAPPY
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 20, 2016, 12:12:36 PMAnyone else find the story and characters boring to the point of obnoxious?
@Gladion
It can't be worse than X/Y at least..right
I FEEL THE NEED TO SHARE MY UNFATHOMABLE GLEE WITH YOU AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE. I was trying to get a good nature for my Litten and ended up with this on the fifth attempt! ;D
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O: Nice!
Smogon did it--they quick-banned Power Construct from Zygarde (all other forms). Makes sense, given that Zygarde-50% is hard to OHKO and Zygarde-Complete has base HP that's more than 4/3's of Giratina-A's, yet still retaining Giratina-A's offences and defence (and having Giratina-O-like special defence).
In the meantime, it does seem like lower-rung Pokemon Showdown ladder play is significantly worse than higher-rung. I've seen opponents switch Kartana in on my strong resisted special attacks at least twice already. I OHKO'd it each time. Guys, that's not how to use Kartana. Sadly, I keep having a roughly 50/50 win rate, so I can't break out of the lower ladder.
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 23, 2016, 05:12:40 AMSmogon did it--they quick-banned Power Construct from Zygarde (all other forms). Makes sense, given that Zygarde-50% is hard to OHKO and Zygarde-Complete has base HP that's more than 4/3's of Giratina-A's, yet still retaining Giratina-A's offences and defence (and having Giratina-O-like special defence).
Golly! Now what am I going to do to replace it!? D:
QuoteIn the meantime, it does seem like lower-rung Pokemon Showdown ladder play is significantly worse than higher-rung. I've seen opponents switch Kartana in on my strong resisted special attacks at least twice already. I OHKO'd it each time. Guys, that's not how to use Kartana. Sadly, I keep having a roughly 50/50 win rate, so I can't break out of the lower ladder.
Yeah... regardless of how well you build a team, it's impossible to anticipate some of the inane curveball gimmicks often used in lower ladder (I notice this especially in Doubles and BH; guess there's more material to work with there). *shudder* I just try to find times when there are less likely to be trolls (fortunately around afternoon/evening in my timezone), or hope I get lucky.
Also, I'm playing Ubers now, and I've missed a bunch of vital Precipice Blades/Focus Blasts, which has cost me a few games already. Other than that, though, the team works well. Never had this many Precipice Blades misses before.
Quote from: fingerz on November 22, 2016, 10:51:38 PMI FEEL THE NEED TO SHARE MY UNFATHOMABLE GLEE WITH YOU AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE. I was trying to get a good nature for my Litten and ended up with this on the fifth attempt! ;D
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Awesome! Did it have a good nature, too?
Was it shiny during the cutscenes when you received it? That'd be really impressive, but I'm guessing it suddenly turned shiny when it entered your party.
Does anyone know how to get to the secret area northeast of route 1? I can't find an entry point on my map
Noc
If you're referring to the area by the ocean cave, there's a secret entrance in the Melemele Meadow. Search the southwest edge of the meadow carefully.
Ah thanks I found it
Screw that though without help there's no way I would ever have found it
I GOT POKÉMON MOON TODAY!!
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 23, 2016, 11:06:51 AMAh thanks I found it
Screw that though without help there's no way I would ever have found it
To be fair I found it, though I'm also super meticulous
I caught Lunala in one dusk ball lol
What a great battle theme that was though, holy shit
Lol, I got it with a Quick Ball. Tapu Koko was harder. :P
nickname
also you better have named it Nebby or you're dead to me
So I got to Route 2. >:/ Misdreavus, why u do this??
Currently SR-ing for shiny Adamant Wimpod. Wish me luck
I caught Solgaleo in a Luxury Ball and Tapu Koko in a Poke Ball.
I caught a shiny Minior!
I beat the game and 10/10 what a good game
Y'all already finished and I'm still at Paniola Ranch
I'm still on Route 2!!
Quote from: Oronoco on November 23, 2016, 07:36:27 AMAwesome! Did it have a good nature, too?
Was it shiny during the cutscenes when you received it? That'd be really impressive, but I'm guessing it suddenly turned shiny when it entered your party.
Well, it was Special Attack up, Defence down. Not really going to use any special moves, but at least it wasn't attack down!
Nup, only shiny when it got to the naming screen. Totally caught me by surprise, I can tell you! ;D
What the fuck are these gengar pokedex entries.
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Sun: Should you feel yourself attacked by a sudden chill, it is evidence of an approaching Gengar. There is no escaping it. Give up.
Moon: It apparently wishes for a traveling companion. Since it was once human itself, it tries to create one by taking the lives of other humans.
Sun's is fantastic lol
Can someone breed an Adamant Jangmo-o by any chance and trade the egg to me ok thanks
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so when you beat the game if you go back to the altar of [sun/moon] there's a portal there THAT TAKES YOU TO THE OTHER GAME
SO COOL
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 24, 2016, 12:19:12 AMSpoiler
so when you beat the game if you go back to the altar of [sun/moon] there's a portal there THAT TAKES YOU TO THE OTHER GAME
SO COOL
Spoiler
Not really. It just flips the time around and lets you get cosmog. Version exclusives remain the same and Rockruff/Cosmoem still evolve into the version based off your game.
Spoiler
it also switches the locations of the altar and lake though so it is technically you going to the dimension that would be moon. At least I think that's what they intended from a flavor standpoint
Help plz
So, I'm itching to go after the Ultra Beasts, so I look up how to get them. Apparently the International Police is supposed to approach you outside your house after you've beaten the main story to initiate the quests to get the UB's, but they haven't. I don't know if there's some trigger I'm missing or someplace I've forgotten to go, but I want them and I can't figure out how to start this. Help?
EDIT: nvm I'm an idiot and forgot about an item I got
EDIT2: If anyone has Sun and needs a Pheromosa, I've got three extra. Would appreciate a Buzzwole in return.
I got a Mimikyu over Wonder Trade today :3
I'm trying to complete the Pokedex and I'm at... 44 percent. Whee.
Quote from: fingerz on November 23, 2016, 11:25:22 PMWell, it was Special Attack up, Defence down.
I think that's Mild, which I got too! (Except I didn't try to get a Shiny xD)
Congrats on that BTW.
Quote from: Nebbles on November 24, 2016, 08:09:23 PMI'm trying to complete the Pokedex and I'm at... 44 percent. Whee.
idek what I'm at 40 something percent, but dang am I having trouble getting Braviary since I'm too lazy to level up my Rufflet...
Edit: Nevermind I forgot I traded my Rufflet for a Vullaby
I'm having a lot more fun on my second play through. Just got Golisopod!
Quote from: DocDoom2 on November 24, 2016, 08:17:34 PMidek what I'm at 40 something percent, but dang am I having trouble getting Braviary since I'm too lazy to level up my Rufflet...
Give Rufflet a Lucky Egg, get its Affection level to 1, drop it at the front of your party and start grinding in the Poni Gauntlet by switching out to a stronger party member right at the start of a battle. You'll get at least a level per battle probably until close to Lv. 40. (Haven't actually gotten that far with anything I'm evolving, but I've achieved two levels per battle up through Lv. 30.)
ninja'd:
Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 24, 2016, 08:17:59 PMI'm having a lot more fun on my second play through. Just got Golisopod!
Wow, you're playing through it again already? (also good choice, Golisopod's a BAMF)
Quote from: Dudeman on November 24, 2016, 02:14:33 PMHelp plz
EDIT2: If anyone has Sun and needs a Pheromosa, I've got three extra. Would appreciate a Buzzwole in return.
deal the little pieces of crap are ugly
Quote from: Dudeman on November 24, 2016, 08:20:29 PMGive Rufflet a Lucky Egg, get its Affection level to 1, drop it at the front of your party and start grinding in the Poni Gauntlet by switching out to a stronger party member right at the start of a battle. You'll get at least a level per battle probably until close to Lv. 40. (Haven't actually gotten that far with anything I'm evolving, but I've achieved two levels per battle up through Lv. 30.)
Thanks for the tip, I'll try that! I actually encountered a Braviary in Poni Plains on my first try, but of course it had whirlwind...
would there be any interest in a sun/moon competitive/casual tourney? Maybe battle royal or multi battles?
My highest level Pokemon is like lv20 but sure
Ooh, sounds like a fun way to test my HA Alolan Muk strategy!
I should probably unlock the IV Judge first though...
I find it a tad annoying that you have to unlock the IV judge, but I guess it gives you a reason to actually try out the post-game battle attraction.
EDIT so that I don't double post:
Legendaries
I'd like to thank GameFreak for the approach they're taking with version-exclusive legendaries this time around. The version-exclusive Ultra Beasts have multiples so that you can trade for the ones you can't get without losing the ones you had, and you get a Cosmog that can evolve into a second Solgaleo/Lunala to trade for someone else's second Lunala/Solgaleo. It's a win-win situation, and I'm a big fan of that.
my level 30 ghost team is gonna destroy ya'll
I HATCHED A SHINY LITTEN
how do you guys get so many shinies
I've only ever gotten a shiny zubat a long time ago
I wasn't even trying, I was just mass breeding Litten to throw on the GTS to fill out my Pokedex. Just pure luck!
why are you all such lucksacks
Hey, I have encountered a grand total of zero shinies in all my years of Pokémon (Red Gyarados doesn't count). Consider yourself lucky that you found even a Zubat.
I can't ever top finding a shiny Spinda in Omega Ruby. That's in my top ten favorite Pokémon.
Quote from: Dudeman on November 25, 2016, 03:46:17 PMHey, I have encountered a grand total of zero shinies in all my years of Pokémon (Red Gyarados doesn't count). Consider yourself lucky that you found even a Zubat.
You're not the only one...
I've only ever seen 2 shinies (both in Pokemon Emerald). One was a Golbat, in Victory Road. The other was a Ralts, WHICH WAS PART OF THE "HOW TO CATCH A POKEMON TUTORIAL".
RIP IN PIECES
Too bad it doesn't stay shiny in further encounters. That would've been a hilariously nasty kind of rubbing salt into the wound.
Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on November 25, 2016, 05:40:45 PMToo bad it doesn't stay shiny in further encounters. That would've been a hilariously nasty kind of rubbing salt into the wound.
Wait, really? Well, bummer. Wally with a shiny Gardevoir would have been badass.
The trainer in the Seafolk Village Pokemon Center made me so mad, until I found out he automatically has a shiny exeggcute...
I still remember my first shiny (granted it was only just in 1 year ago in ORAS), it was a Shuppet in Mt. Pyre.
Also I finally got a Feebas at Brooklet Hill, so proud of myself!
72 percent completion rate on dex...
that's fast
Between GTS, Wonder Trade, and friends I've been able to make great progress.
I envy you, I've only just completed the Melemele dex and I'm around 50% overall...
I have no friends nearby who have Pokemon (let alone a 3ds).
If any of you guys need milotic in your dex I have a feebas and a prism scale that I need to evolve if you'd be willing to trade it back :3
Quote from: Nebbles on November 25, 2016, 09:37:46 PMBetween GTS, Wonder Trade, and friends I've been able to make great progress.
I've never had much luck with any of those...
Sometimes you do, sometimes you get 5 Wingull in one night.
I'm going to complete as much of the dex as I can without using the internet. I just got to the third island and I have 86 in my dex, which is I think like 34%. Unless I'm totally wrong. I haven't played since last night.
I kinda want to complete the dex, so I've been catching everything I encounter. So far I just made it to Route 4 and I have ~15% of the dex completed. Also Grubbin is love, Grubbin is life.
I can always offer to help once I complete my dex.
I think whoever was writing the descriptions for the pokedex was going through some struggles
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 26, 2016, 04:33:01 AMI'm going to complete as much of the dex as I can without using the internet. I just got to the third island and I have 86 in my dex, which is I think like 34%. Unless I'm totally wrong. I haven't played since last night.
100 is 33%, so yeah...
Quote from: braixen1264 on November 26, 2016, 09:14:48 AMI think whoever was writing the descriptions for the pokedex was going through some struggles
When I evolved my trapinch in moon I thought I was in the shadow realm when reading the pokedex description
This is by far the best pokedex in ages, even though I'm sad that they cut the national dex (Would love to see what it said about Braixen, Noivern, Spewpa or Articuno)
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on November 26, 2016, 10:24:33 AMThis is by far the best pokedex in ages, even though I'm sad that they cut the national dex (Would love to see what it said about Braixen, Noivern, Spewpa or Articuno)
Hey, when the games become Bank-compatible, who knows what crazy stuff might come out. Granted they might just copy the X/Y Pokédex entries, but you never know.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 26, 2016, 09:38:00 AM100 is 33%, so yeah...
Yeah, I'm currently at about 95 which is like 32% so I was wrong about the percentage haha
Same place, just arrived at the third island. I just went back and caught some that I had missed.
Quote from: Dudeman on November 26, 2016, 10:45:07 AMHey, when the games become Bank-compatible, who knows what crazy stuff might come out. Granted they might just copy the X/Y Pokédex entries, but you never know.
Part of me thinks they'll flip some of the descriptions' moods around for already scary Pokemon such as Giratina and Darkrai. Perhaps they'll do stuff like this, for example:
- Giratina-A: As a being of antimatter, Giratina is forced to reduce its surface area and assume this form whenever it enters a world made of matter...such as this one.
- Giratina-O: It requested its own banishment to avoid being annihilated by matter and thrashing violently in pain. It is more relaxed in this form, as it associates it with its new home, the Distortion World.
- Darkrai: As it caps its nightmares to a certain severity so they remain nonlethal, some people go to Darkrai-inhabited islands to treat their night terrors.
...Though I think the trend of doom-and-gloom Mega Evolution Pokedex entries will continue, with these probably incorrect guesses of mine:
- Mega Gallade: Mega Evolving gave it delusions of grandeur. It honestly believes it's a superhero now.
- Mega Diancie: One wonders how morally correct it is to Mega Evolve Diancie before it gets married.
Perhaps Alola is culturally against Mega Evolution but won't outlaw it for the sake of tourists.
Quote from: Dudeman on November 26, 2016, 10:45:07 AMHey, when the games become Bank-compatible, who knows what crazy stuff might come out. Granted they might just copy the X/Y Pokédex entries, but you never know.
Dataminers confirmed the national dex is gone with no logical way of inserting it into the game. They'll get a "cloud" dex on Pokemon Bank, but nothing in the actual games themselves, making switching from game to bank and back a tedious chore.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on November 26, 2016, 05:51:25 PMDataminers confirmed the national dex is gone with no logical way of inserting it into the game. They'll get a "cloud" dex on Pokemon Bank, but nothing in the actual games themselves, making switching from game to bank and back a tedious chore.
updates exist
does anyone want to get multis/battle royal going
Churning out Brave Dhelmise if anyone wants one~
So I'm supposed to be doing the Ghost trial again but I just taught my Golisopod False Swipe so I've been going around catching a ton of Melemele mons and putting them into slave labor on the Poke Pelago.
Also I found a Rufflet and instantly put him on my team. I don't care that he evolves at like level 54 he is my son and I love him.
Ghost Trial is hard when 5/6 of your team is ghost type >_> Had to bring back my masqerain with stun spore and intimidate to prevent my entire team from getting outsped and one shot.
And I just throw pokeballs at the full health melemele mons and catch them ezmoney
ghost trial was probably the one i had the least issue with on my first playthrough. I just had Decidueye use spirit shackle on everything because he's surprisingly bulky and didn't get one-shot by like anything
Spoiler
so I put my Dartrix in the PC becuase my goal was to have an all ghost team and it fucking evolves into a ghost type wtf never going spoiler free again
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 26, 2016, 06:04:33 PMupdates exist
Tell that to the people who defended XYORAS's shallow postgames only to realize the harsh truth.
"They'll update XY with an actual post-game!" or
"They'll add the battle frontier as DLC!"Those dataminers who dug through the game have zero faith that they'll update it to include the national dex now that its a bank thing. They will update the game to include balance updates of course, but not to include features. From what it seems the base game
already works with the updated bank which is why the bank update being held back is artificial padding and nothing more.
I'd love to be proven wrong but right now any expectation/hope for such an update is in the negatives right now. Especially since they didn't bother hiding Marshadow (something that could be done by not making him visible until an update)
Granted, people already saw leaked shiny Marshadow sprites in the datamined demo, so why bother hiding that 'mon anymore?
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 27, 2016, 08:06:40 AMGranted, people already saw leaked shiny Marshadow sprites in the datamined demo, so why bother hiding that 'mon anymore?
The build of the game was inevitably finished in October or so since they would need to prepare the physical copies.
And you know as well as I do that when they officially confirm Marshadow they'll be like "OoooooOOOOOOooooOOOO Spooky brand new pokemon"
Does anyone have a Vanillite?
I was going to go catch a vanillish and finish that up
I'm surprised at how easy it is to fill up this pokedex, I'm at like 260 and I have access to the rest of the pokedex, outside of oranguru, which I'll just find on the GTS. Compared to the Sinnoh region, where I'm still at 400 after a decade.
90 percent, oh god, I'm so close...
Smh using the GTS doesn't even count as a full Pokédex imo you just let others do the work for you
Unless of course it's a Pokémon that you can't get naturally in your own game, like Passimian/Oranguru or the version-exclusive legendaries. I believe in trading the equivalent in those cases.
Quote from: Dudeman on November 27, 2016, 12:25:40 PMUnless of course it's a Pokémon that you can't get naturally in your own game, like Passimian/Oranguru or the version-exclusive legendaries. I believe in trading the equivalent in those cases.
Absolutely, those are exceptions. Also obviously Pokémon that only evolve by trading.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 27, 2016, 12:49:58 PMAbsolutely, those are exceptions. Also obviously Pokémon that only evolve by trading.
so basically the pokemon that people use the gts for
lol
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 27, 2016, 12:54:06 PMso basically the pokemon that people use the gts for
lol
Hey, I just searched the GTS for Popplio and LITERALLY THE FIRST TWO AND A HALF PAGES WERE ALL REQUESTS FOR LEGENDARIES
Good ol GTS, or what I like to call it, the Global Trade Shitshow.
Quote from: Dudeman on November 27, 2016, 01:04:19 PMHey, I just searched the GTS for Popplio and LITERALLY THE FIRST TWO AND A HALF PAGES WERE ALL REQUESTS FOR LEGENDARIES
yeah that ticks me off. I was searching for rowlet and I was lucky to find one that was requesting kartanas. Literally all it is is children who think level 100 legendaries are cool. If you keep looking you'll find more reasonable offers. And this is pretty much just for the starters, other pokemon like machoke and stuff are very reasonable
The best only luck I've had on the GTS is in Gen 4, where someone was trading an Empoleon for an Abomasnow. So I went to Mt. Coronet, caught one, used a few Rare Candies on it (I don't remember what level the request was, but it might have been 40-50 or something), and got an Empoleon!!!!
the fishing mechanics in this game are the worst. It's starting to really tick me off that all I'm catching are magikarps and wailmers.
PLS BRING BACK THE SUPER ROD UGH
Yeah, I'm not too fond of it, especially since a lot of the harder to get Pokemon for the Dex are fishing exclusive...
I consider myself lucky that I caught a dratini after 15 minutes
Quote from: Dudeman on November 27, 2016, 01:04:19 PMHey, I just searched the GTS for Popplio and LITERALLY THE FIRST TWO AND A HALF PAGES WERE ALL REQUESTS FOR LEGENDARIES
They have an option to filter out people asking for legendary/mythical pokemon as well as one to only show trades that you are capable of doing :3
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 27, 2016, 03:50:13 PMthe fishing mechanics in this game are the worst. It's starting to really tick me off that all I'm catching are magikarps and wailmers.
PLS BRING BACK THE SUPER ROD UGH
I agree they're weird, but I do like not having to work around multiple fishing rods and that I won't have to come back to the old locations just for fishing later (I've collected all of them so far minus evolutions; Mareanie and Barboach were both a pain to acquire).
Also!!
Malie City
Samson Oak
asked me for Alolan Persian so I evolved a Meowth I had caught at the beginning of the game, and after showing him, he talked about
Spoiler
Samuel Oak and Blue, and said Blue had Z-crystals?? Are they going to show up, too?
Speaking of which, I'm still only at the observatory, but my thoughts on the story are
Spoiler
pretty good overall, even though it's way too obvious that Aether Foundation are the true villains (just a guess here, but I don't see another possibility). I love Colress SO MUCH and I really want him to be involved with the story and not have that cameo be his only appearance. Other than that, loving all the weird territory they're going into with the Aether Paradise, and the characters are great, especially the entire Team Skull lot and Hau. I'm not sold on Kukui or Burnet, though.
"Way too obvious"
THANK YOU for agreeing with me
and do you want an answer to the blue thing
Nah I'll get there eventually but YES NOC WE AGREE ON A STORY
Are there people that disagree?
92 percent on dex.
I'll have it completed this week and the shiny charm is allll mine... the quest for a shiny Mimikyu will begin.
what are you still missing?
96 percent. Missing Chansey, Blissey, Clefairy, Clefable, Lucario, Krookodile, Tapu Fini, Tapu Bulu, and the Moon Ultra Beasts.
I aim to have this done tonight.
I've got a chansey if you wanna cheat
Happiny just evolved, so I'mma get it into a Blissey soon.
Quote from: Nebbles on November 28, 2016, 02:34:35 PMthe Moon Ultra Beasts.
Aside from Pheromosa. ;)
mucha lucha was worth the trade
98 percent
so close
How did you get riolu? He's in the same spot as lucario right?
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 28, 2016, 05:11:31 PMHow did you get riolu? He's in the same spot as lucario right?
I remember running into one by itself at the beginning of the Poni Island postgame area. Accidentally killed it, but I know you can get them there.
Just hatched myself a 5 iv Rockruff in 6 eggs from a 4 iv Ditto and 3 iv Rockruff! Unfortunately it's 5th iv is in Sp Atk not Speed and it has Keen Eye...
Caught a Mimikyu and bred a few since the one I caught had a lame nature and I'm using it on my team. Thanks to the magic of the GTS, I now have Popplio and Litten--guess people don't want to go to the effort of finding Mimikyu? Either way, it's nice to have that done. I'm only going to use the GTS for those two and the Sun exclusives. By the way, I have a LOT of the rare Pokémon from the game up to where I am since I basically don't leave an area until I've collected all the Pokédex data for it--so if you have Sun exclusives, hit me up! That's including the fossils for Sun.
Current team:
Dartrix "Miles" -- named after Miles Edgeworth
Slowpoke (Slowbro) "Hyacinth" -- named after Hyacinth Hippo, the ballerina hippo from Fantasia
Misdreavus "Mia" -- named after Mia Fey
Salazzle "Slander" -- thought this seemed like a cool play on its name and couldn't think of a better nickname; I'm taking suggestions
Togedemaru "Spiky" -- I just think Spiky is a really cute name and I've never gotten to use it
Mimikyu "Quirk" -- I got the idea for the name because it has a Quirky Nature, but it also fits the Pokémon because it's a very odd little creature
Former teammates:
Muk "Grimy" -- love love LOVE this Pokémon and it's really powerful (not to mention the really awesome type combo or the fact that Poison is my favorite type), but I'm dropping it in favor of Mimikyu now that I have the Pokédex for Muk
Lycanroc (Midnight Form) "Howler" -- come on, it's a WEREWOLF. Dropped this for Togedemaru because it was kind of overpowered and wasn't holding my interest, and Togedemaru fulfills basically the same role as a speedy hard hitter.
Raichu "Jolt" -- it was kind of underwhelming and I just didn't LOVE it. I dropped it for Salazzle at Level 20, but I later grew it up to Level 29 and evolved it while raising a Meowth to evolve for Samson.
I hit 100 percent last night, and got the shiny charm.
I've been hatching so many Dhelmise. Help.
Hahahaha, I geddit, it's named after Mia because it's a ghost type and MIA IS DEAD.
I have Sun exclusives and am willing to trade
alright so I've been reading up on breeding and if I've understood this then:
Giving a destiny knot to one pokemon and a power item to the other means the 6 IVs are fixed?
Destiny knot guarantees 5 IVs from both parents, combined, will pass down to the child. Not sure about the power item.
I think the power item guarantees that it's corresponding IV will be passed down, then the Destiny Knot will pass down 4 random ones.
I tried that once, but it was a long time ago and I can't remember xD
Destiny Knot passes down 5 random IV's, which means if the other parent is holding a power item, you could only end up passing down 4 if the Destiny Knot grabs the power item's stat. I always prefer an Everstone on the other parent to ensure the right nature. Good luck getting a Destiny Knot this time without getting BP, though. thanks a lot, gamefreak
Destiny Knot + Everstone are the prime items for breeding, anyway, so you get the good IVs and right nature.
Honestly, (non-Pokebank) OU is so annoying right now. Toxapex, Special Defensive Decidueye, Celesteela, and Alolan Marowak are everywhere now that there's no arrow-wielding demon dragon to send them back to the fiery pits of hell where they belong (or for that matter, any Ground-type that can deal with at least three of those at once). It's getting tiring seeing what are pretty much the same teams over and over again with only a little variation.
Corrosion Salazzle is about to come in handy right about now.
Quote from: Dudeman on November 30, 2016, 09:14:15 AMDestiny Knot passes down 5 random IV's, which means if the other parent is holding a power item, you could only end up passing down 4 if the Destiny Knot grabs the power item's stat. I always prefer an Everstone on the other parent to ensure the right nature. Good luck getting a Destiny Knot this time without getting BP, though. thanks a lot, gamefreak
I already have a destiny knot...
so there's no way to guarantee I start churning out 6 IV pokemon? I've got a 3 IV dratini now, so I was hoping its stats would always carry down with the destiny knot. Oh well.
Since slow posted his current team, I guess I'll share the team I've been using to beat the elite four:
Powdered Wig (Butterfree): Butterfree's compoundeyes gives its sleep powder 100% accuracy, so it's super easy to sweep with a quiver dance or two.
Screwed (Magnezone): I dunno, he wasn't that great, but having a steel type really helped coverage.
Arcanine (Arcanine): Sadly, I got this one in a wonder trade, so no nickname for me. Arcanine was the absolute bomb, pretty much OHKO'ing everything it had coverage on.
NotAWhore (Primarina): This was actually still a Popplio the first time I entered the hall of fame, but I had to let it evolve for the power boost the second time around. Worth noting this one's a male. Tryna keep my pokemon off the streets is all.
Solgaleo (Solgaleo): SORRY I DIDN'T NAME IT
Spoiler
NEBBY
Penumbra (Umbreon): This basically replaced Popplio as my partner pokemon. It used to be named alti as a pun on altissimo's name, but then it evolved into an umbreon so I switched it. Man umbreon is the literal best. I found a leftovers from a munchlax super early into the game, so it was given a leftovers right away. Also has a careful nature, so he was taking dazzling gleams like a champ.
I have 60:00 exactly on this game, 142 in my Pokédex, and I just beat the third island kahuna.
Ugh Haina Desert was the absolute worst place in the game. Pro tip for anyone who hasn't gone there yet: bring ten Max Repels at least.
Best characters so far: Guzma, Guzma, and Guzma (I am all about that battle music).
For real, he's probably my favorite, along with Hau.
Guzma is just the best no question
IT'S YA BOY, GUZMA
when u sneak out da bag
(https://i.redd.it/9g0v1pzqdt0y.jpg)
Has anyone had any remote success with fishing? My Pokedex says I still need to fish up a lot of pokemon but it seems impossible to find anything but magikarps or the odd wailmer
It really depends on what you're fishing for. Those bubbly spots only increase the chance of getting a rare thing instead of guaranteeing it (which I find stupid). Dhelmise, for instance, only has a 1% spawn chance in Seafolk village in a non-bubble spot. With bubbles? 10%. Not fun.
Should I be using adrenaline orbs?
Also depends. SOS battles usually only spawn 'mons in the same evolutionary line, with a few exceptions (Mareanie with Corsola, Sableye with Carbink).
Pichu spawns happiny, I just assumed anyone could orb anyone
The chansey line can spawn from anyone I think
Quote from: FireArrow on December 01, 2016, 04:41:05 PMThe chansey line can spawn from anyone I think
Not anyone, but they are in quite a few spots.
How did you guys figure this out?
Edit: ok found dhelmise after about 11 bubble attempts. Looks like its not even worth fishing if there's no bubble
1. Happiny and Chansey spawn with certain baby Pokémon.
2. Fishing with no bubble isn't really worth it. Took me almost two hours to get Barboach.
3. In addition to changing the likelihood of finding Pokémon, the bubble will also let the Pokémon that appear by calling for help be different. For example, a Magikarp found at a bubble spot can call for help and get a Gyarados.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 01, 2016, 04:47:45 PMHow did you guys figure this out?
I read up on Serebii once I figured out what this "SOS" thing people kept referring to was. I'm amazed how quickly they've gotten their information.
I don't like the term SOS, I hope someone comes up with $something better
I just gave up completely on fishing, I don't have any sort of patience for that sort of repetitiveness.
Also, unrelated, I think the Poke Pelago is a really great mechanic to add, mostly because I always felt super guilty about leaving my poor Pokemon in boxes for all eternity. That mindset probably came from Ranger and Mystery Dungeon, to be honest. Now they get to like run around and stuff, and I feel way better about just focusing on my main team. I do wish that it was able to be accessed earlier though, because I kept running out of Poke Beans.
oh god 9 boxes of dhelmise send help
I think poke pelago is cool, but an unnecessary waste of space
So I'm on the verge of consistently hatching 5 iv dratinis so sound off if you want one and I'll be willing to shoot one your way
Got the shiny Dhelmise!! Only took around 300 eggs
Time to try for a shiny Mimikyu!
I found a Dhelmise on like my fourth bubble attempt. Relicanth, on the other hand, took me maybe upwards of twenty bubble attempts.
AUGH I hatched my first shiny pokemon but it's a terrible caterpie
Guys
I think I'm done with fishing
And I still haven't even beaten the game
I just use the GTS to fill in the holes, since leveling up is a pain in my hiney in this game.
EV Training though is faster than in XYORAS to me now that I found out that Poke Pelago will max out an EV in one stat after four days of non-stop training, and you can put 18 pokemon in at once!
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on December 03, 2016, 11:27:28 AMI just use the GTS to fill in the holes, since leveling up is a pain in my hiney in this game.
Quote from: Dudeman on November 24, 2016, 08:20:29 PMGive [Pokémon you want to train] a Lucky Egg, get its Affection level to 1, drop it at the front of your party and start grinding in the Poni Gauntlet by switching out to a stronger party member right at the start of a battle. You'll get at least a level per battle until close to Lv. 40.
This goes really,
really quickly for me. The only thing I got annoyed leveling up was a Vullaby since it doesn't evolve until Lv. 52.
There's nothing more satisfying than that tangible feeling of existential horror when your opponent has been sending out their weaker Pokemon to stall out the rain, but then they realize the rain isn't ending and there's a +3 Xurkitree about to completely pummel them.
Quote from: Dudeman on December 03, 2016, 11:38:34 AMThis goes really, really quickly for me. The only thing I got annoyed leveling up was a Vullaby since it doesn't evolve until Lv. 52.
Ah I've been sticking mine in Isle Evelup. It's almost Level 40 now and I haven't personally trained it a lick, haha.
Also, I caught the legendary Pokémon. In one Dusk Ball. Before it was even down to half health. Oh Game Freak. What a weird story though.
Quote from: Dudeman on December 03, 2016, 11:38:34 AMThis goes really, really quickly for me. The only thing I got annoyed leveling up was a Vullaby since it doesn't evolve until Lv. 52.
But what about when the trainers run out? There's no point to fighting wild pokemon when the battles are so short and switching out pokemon is an outdated method from Gen I. (Plus evolving my Weavile one level took forever compared to when I fought trainers on the route for the first time and leveled up my normal team like crazy.) They should have made for some easy rematching like in Gens III-IV, not this limited number mess. That's bad game design and I'm surprised they are still continuing it. Heck, even freaking ORAS had the option to rematch trainers in secret bases/certain routes.
Part of me remembers something in BW2's join avenue that was easy to abuse in order to level up my staraptor to level 100. I forgot what it was though...
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 03, 2016, 12:24:00 PMAh I've been sticking mine in Isle Evelup. It's almost Level 40 now and I haven't personally trained it a lick, haha.
Also, I caught the legendary Pokémon. In one Dusk Ball. Before it was even down to half health. Oh Game Freak. What a weird story though.
Like BW1/BW2/XY they force you to catch the legendary. I tried knocking out Lunala but it acted as if nothing happened and made me try again. One ultra ball did it, though thankfully they made up for this with the catch rate of the Tapus/third legend
Um, just spam the elite four. Your pokemon go from 1 to 40. Plus you get money
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 03, 2016, 03:47:49 PMUm, just spam the elite four. Your pokemon go from 1 to 40. Plus you get money
That's repetitive and doesn't help you get to level 100 with your team in the slightest. I do it quite often already for evolving pokemon (And gained tons of pokedollars from combining Snorlax happy hour with amulet coin) but there has to be other places to fight trainers and rematch them. from what it seems the only other options is the once a day Game Freak employee (Which gives a nice amount of EXP) and the battle buffet. (where everyone is weak and goes down in a single hit and doesn't give much of anything)
Seriously, I'm sick of pokemon games taking steps back on content that were in prior games. The National dex getting axed and the lack of any CPUs to battle outside of the battle tree make this game one that's fun for 60 hours only to dry up unless you're a competitive number nut. I only have a few more TMs to get, 199 more pokemon to catch and then I already 100%ed the game. All before bank comes out, which is pretty scary if you ask me since I did the same with XY launch and I still had a long way to go due to the national dex. Pelago is something I'm going to tinker around with to build a temporary team in the meantime, but without Pokerus or any good battle items I doubt I'll last long no matter who I EV train. If you can't get to level 100 to use the IV changing bottle caps, why have them?
The patch that adds bank support adds the national pokedex
I do miss the VS Seeker, I agree on that.
Quote from: Maelstrom on December 03, 2016, 04:02:23 PMThe patch that adds bank support adds the national pokedex
Only in the bank app. I don't know how many times I have to explain this to people on the websites I visit. It's in the bank app, but will
not be added in the games themselves, meaning its not practical to switch between game and bank just to check to see what Pokemon you're missing. If anything the national dex in bank is future proofing for whatever game is coming next.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on December 03, 2016, 03:40:45 PMBut what about when the trainers run out? There's no point to fighting wild pokemon when the battles are so short and switching out pokemon is an outdated method from Gen I.
I, uh, was referring to wild battles in the first place. The point to fighting wild Pokémon is to get experience, so I don't see why them being short is a bad thing. Also if you could explain your "outdated method" reasoning, I'd appreciate it. If a 'mon is in battle, it'll get all the experience possible now; if it isn't, then it gets half. I'll take all over half any day.
Quote from: Dudeman on December 03, 2016, 04:30:29 PMI, uh, was referring to wild battles in the first place. The point to fighting wild Pokémon is to get experience, so I don't see why them being short is a bad thing. Also if you could explain your "outdated method" reasoning, I'd appreciate it. If a 'mon is in battle, it'll get all the experience possible now; if it isn't, then it gets half. I'll take all over half any day.
In gen 1, the EXP all was a worthless item, so in order to level up pokemon you had to send them out first and then switch them with an attacker to take a hit. This was a very repetitive thing to do in every battle and they didn't even gain much levels because of it. In future gens it got better because the EXP Share held item splits the XP between two pokemon, and in XYORAS it got a bit rougher by returning to the EXP All system, but it actually gave your enough EXP to level up (at the expense of the game being made easy.) This combined with lucky eggs made it easy to gain levels quickly, especially with it off.
While I'm super happy they returned to the Gen V level scaling in favor of a good challenge, the scarcity of spots to level up your pokemon in general (much less to level 100) is glaring, and while typically the EXP share (whether it's on one pokemon or all of them) helps to spread the experience to everyone, focusing on one gets risky unless you're at a higher level.
Sure, I could send out my defenseless level 1 Bagon to fight a level 59 bewear, but what's the point if I'm pulling it back in favor of a Pokemon that can actually damage it? To me it seems pointless since the EXP share would do the exact same thing without the switching but to more pokemon. My point is that lucky egg or no, you aren't really going to be seeing much of a fast level up unless your pokemon is capable of taking down those enemy pokemon on their own, either with FEAR or destiny bond, which is why I found fighting the poni gauntlet trainers helpful as they gave me more experience but won't let me rematch them.
It's somewhat simple to level your mons up to level 50 in SM with your method, yes but now we're back to having Level 100 be a mythical phase when XYORAS gave you places to fight high leveled trainers for that purpose. Part of me thinks that golf course was meant to be this region's Battle Chateau or at least a good place to level up but we can't go there, leading to this issue.
I mean, sure you could argue that going to level 100 in an age where they round stats down to level 5r0 isn't a big deal, but with those bottlecaps requiring level 100 pokemon for some stupid reason it kinda defeats the point if its hard to reach that level. With my level 84 Necrozoma I tend to gain about one level for it during a E4 rematch with the EXP share on, and MAYBE close to two with it off. If I have a lucky egg I could gain a few more levels, but unless you somehow get boosted EXP by having you loan your mons to a friend it seems harder than ever.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on December 03, 2016, 04:50:31 PMSure, I could send out my defenseless level 1 Bagon to fight a level 59 bewear, but what's the point if I'm pulling it back in favor of a Pokemon that can actually damage it? To me it seems pointless since the EXP share would do the exact same thing without the switching but to more pokemon. My point is that lucky egg or no, you aren't really going to be seeing much of a fast level up unless your pokemon is capable of taking down those enemy pokemon on their own, either with FEAR or destiny bond, which is why I found fighting the poni gauntlet trainers helpful as they gave me more experience but won't let me rematch them.
This isn't true, and I'm speaking from experience. Any Pokémon that takes part in a battle gets all the experience possible. Let's say I've got a Lv. 1 something out in front, and I switch it out for my Lv. 60-something Decidueye. The Decidueye knocks it out and gets maybe 2,000 experience. The Lv. 1 something? 11,000-12,000, consistently. Enough for at least 15-20 levels.
Then the EXP Share applies, but I've noticed through other methods that the experience gained from the EXP Share is calculated separately for each Pokémon. I was grinding with Pickup 'mons for a Destiny Knot in Route 1. My Decidueye in front was only getting 1 EXP, and I assumed the rest of the party was getting that as well (half of 1 EXP rounded up 'cause they have to get EXP from the battle). However, after checking, I noticed that they got 7 or 8 EXP instead. This only makes sense if the EXP Share is halving the
potential EXP a 'mon can gain, and not the EXP the 'mon in front receives.
I don't really see where you're getting your evidence from. My experience speaks for itself (pun absolutely intended).
Yeah, to me it sounds like your complaints are theoretical in nature. My arcanine and umbreon are already up to level 80 after my 4th elite 4 victory
Quote from: Dudeman on December 03, 2016, 05:01:14 PMThis isn't true, and I'm speaking from experience. Any Pokémon that takes part in a battle gets all the experience possible. Let's say I've got a Lv. 1 something out in front, and I switch it out for my Lv. 60-something Decidueye. The Decidueye knocks it out and gets maybe 2,000 experience. The Lv. 1 something? 11,000-12,000, consistently. Enough for at least 15-20 levels. Then the EXP Share applies, but I've noticed through other methods that the experience gained from the EXP Share is calculated separately for each Pokémon. I was grinding with Pickup 'mons for a Destiny Knot in Route 1. My Decidueye in front was only getting 1 EXP, and I assumed the rest of the party was getting that as well (half of 1 EXP rounded up 'cause they have to get EXP from the battle). However, after checking, I noticed that they got 7 or 8 EXP instead. This only makes sense if the EXP Share is halving the potential EXP a 'mon can gain, and not the EXP the 'mon in front receives.
I don't really see where you're getting your evidence from. My experience speaks for itself (pun absolutely intended).
I don't get it. I swore it's done in a way that makes your in-charge pokemon get experience, then it splits with any other pokemon who's sent out in battle but doesn't defeat the enemy Pokemon before going for the EXP share split. All this number talk hurts my head. All I know for sure is that it's not as easy or practical to get to level 100 in this game as it was in XYORAS. Then again, I was probably spoiled by EXP Daycare, Battle Chateau and Secret bases...
Does anyone have a caterpie with one or two perfect ivs that they're willing to trade to speed up the breeding process?
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on December 03, 2016, 05:49:37 PMSecret bases...
Oh yes. It's almost criminal how easy it is doing it that way.
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on December 03, 2016, 04:12:29 PMOnly in the bank app.
because sun and moon will never have updates of their own, right?
I'm also wondering why you're so upset about half of the things you're talking about. I've only ever gotten one Pokémon to Level 100, my Sceptile in my very first Ruby game. I've gotten like two others to Level 93-ish.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 04, 2016, 11:45:52 AMI'm also wondering why you're so upset about half of the things you're talking about. I've only ever gotten one Pokémon to Level 100, my Sceptile in my very first Ruby game. I've gotten like two others to Level 93-ish.
Same here. I only just got my Decidueye to level 100 (somewhat unintentionally, too), and I can't remember the last time I got
anything to that point. I've never seen it as something I need to attain in any of the prior games. If anything, 50 is the highest I care about since that's the level the post-game battle arenas cap your team at.
Why even bother to level 100, anyway? Unless you have a Pokemon that learns something at that move....... like Volcarona....ahem... there's really not much of a point to.
Anyway, I've hatched around 12 boxes of Mimikyu and still no shiny :)
Also, unless I'm mistaken, the move relearner lets your Pokémon learn moves they haven't even gotten yet. All of my Pokémon's full movesets were available when I talked to her, even though none of mine are Level 50 yet.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 04, 2016, 12:32:35 PMAlso, unless I'm mistaken, the move relearner lets your Pokémon learn moves they haven't even gotten yet. All of my Pokémon's full movesets were available when I talked to her, even though none of mine are Level 50 yet.
Woah, are you serious? Awesome!
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 04, 2016, 12:32:35 PMAlso, unless I'm mistaken, the move relearner lets your Pokémon learn moves they haven't even gotten yet. All of my Pokémon's full movesets were available when I talked to her, even though none of mine are Level 50 yet.
I think you're right on that, actually, it just still pains me Volcarona isn't supposed to learn it until 100. Also, you know, evolving at level 64 but ANYWAY yeah lmao what's the big deal if the Battle Tree/Royale/literally any battle modes set you to 50 anyway??
Quote from: Dudeman on December 04, 2016, 12:34:00 PMWoah, are you serious? Awesome!
Yeah! Miles had the opportunity to learn Feather Dance from her, and then learned Feather Dance after gaining a level during an Elite Four battle.
Edit: Miles is my Decidueye I literally forget they have actual names
Quote from: Nebbles on December 04, 2016, 12:36:21 PMI think you're right on that, actually, it just still pains me Volcarona isn't supposed to learn it until 100. Also, you know, evolving at level 64 but ANYWAY yeah lmao what's the big deal if the Battle Tree/Royale/literally any battle modes set you to 50 anyway??
Exactly. I suppose Hyper Traininng requires a Level 100 Pokémon, but other than that, nah.
Also it's Zweilous that evolved at Level 64. I think Larvesta is something equally bad though like 52-57
Alright, FINALLY getting to the post game, but I messed up on UB-01 (didn't have a synchronizer) can I still catch it at Diglett's Tunnel even though I already caught it at Wela Volcano, or is it a one time deal?
Also is that the case for the other UBs?
There's only 1 nihilego, but there's multiple copies of the other ones until the last one
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 04, 2016, 12:42:30 PMYeah! Miles had the opportunity to learn Feather Dance from her, and then learned Feather Dance after gaining a level during an Elite Four battle.
Edit: Miles is my Decidueye I literally forget they have actual names
Exactly. I suppose Hyper Traininng requires a Level 100 Pokémon, but other than that, nah.
Also it's Zweilous that evolved at Level 64. I think Larvesta is something equally bad though like 52-57
Wait, no, it's 59. Zweilous is 64.
Gross back when I played pokemon there were 3 that evolved at higher than level 50 why are there so many now
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 04, 2016, 01:38:20 PMGross back when I played pokemon there were 3 that evolved at higher than level 50 why are there so many now
Basically, in Black and White, the Pokémon you find are designed to evolve after you've trained them a bit. You find Deino and Vullaby when the wild Pokémon are about Level 45, hence evolution at Level 52/64 and 54, respectively.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 04, 2016, 01:31:36 PMThere's only 1 nihilego, but there's multiple copies of the other ones until the last one
Thanks! Guess I'll have to make the best with the Nihilego I have lol
I somehow ended up with 7 Pheromosa.
Help.
Quote from: Nebbles on December 04, 2016, 03:57:42 PMI somehow ended up with 7 Pheromosa.
Help.
I, uh, think one of those is mine.
Yep. And then I got one over Wonder Trade. Then, you know, the other 4 you get. Then a friend gave me another one as a joke.
Help.
Wait you get 4 pheromosa
Dudeman you owe me a celesteela and all you get is a kartana
yes
there's so many
help
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 04, 2016, 06:47:23 PMWait you get 4 pheromosa
Dudeman you owe me a celesteela and all you get is a kartana
I uh already traded out my spare Celesteela for a Kartana via GTS.
Quote from: Nebbles on December 04, 2016, 07:12:49 PMyes
there's so many
help
Get a couple Focus Sashes and ruin some people's days.
"But first ya have to battle me and my team of 6 level 100 pheromosa "
the fun never ends!
Think of all the sets you could run!
I decided to make a monotype Bug team to honor mah boi Guzma (sorry ghosties, you're still my faves tho).
Current Lineup
- Ribombee (Modest, Shield Dust) @ dunno yet
- Moonblast
- Bug Buzz
- Psychic
- Quiver Dance
- Araquanid (Impish, Water Bubble) @ Leftovers
- Liquidation
- Leech Life
- Spider Web
- Stockpile
- Golisopod (Adamant, Emergency Exit) @ Assault Vest
- First Impression
- Liquidation
- Leech Life
- Sucker Punch
- Scolipede (Hasty, Speed Boost) @ Focus Sash
- Protect
- Swords Dance
- Megahorn
- Baton Pass
- Scizor (dunno yet, Technician) @ Scizorite
- Bullet Punch
- Other stuff eventually
- Leavanny (literally no idea yet)
I think choice band scissor with u turn is the best way to build him
Breedin' some Rowlet in hopes to get a shiny, I'll gladly give out some breedjects.
So I just got Sun, because Singapore is too small or somehing? :p
(That and poor planning haha)
It's the first game that I've gone into with almost zero spoilers (learnt from my Undertale misadventures ahaha), so I don't know who's who, and most importantly I don't know the numbers. What I do want to do is to build an in-game team of underdogs because that's what I like doing! ^^ Especially the utility-type underdogs like Whimsicott (possibly my favourite poke), just love those. That, and I'm trying to stick with the Alola-exclusive/Alola Form pokes ^^
Here are my in-game impressions! I guess you can laugh at my cluelessness or something ahaha
~
daj goes into Sun and Moon blind:- only knowing the soundtrack
- and the names of the legendary pokes
- and for once, no knowledge of any stats and numbers
~
Spoiler
Chapter 1:
051216 - to the end of Melemele (?) Island
#1: Lillie is freaky, and hopefully she's a dynamic character...?
#2: Alola is full of life and awesome <3
#3: For once Route 1 isn't linear. Love the design here.
#4: Hau'oli City seems to have really few accessible buildings considering that wonderful facade. Tiny letdown.
#5: Alolan Meowth probably sucks. but screw it I'm gonna train one :D
#6: Litten isn't that bad. C'mon, guys.
#7: Lots of old pokes here, yet the game feels fresh and uplifting. How?
#8: Team Skull is fucking hilarious i swear oh my goodness
#9: I frikkin love the whole calling for help idea. Was a pain in the DQ games, but in Pokemon? Yes please <3
#10: My bro tells me the first trial was easy because his Rowlet knew Razor Leaf. Starting to regret my team choices a tiiiiny bit.
#11: why the heck is crabrawler a fighting type it's a crab aint it
#12: NO ONE WILL EVER STAND BETWEEN ME AND MAH CUTIEFLY and no i will not check its stats
#13: Cutiefly sweeps Hala with ease. Take that, haters ;)
#14: Meanwhile Alolan Meowth pulls down the team with its crap offensive stats
#15: Tauros Ride = Pegasus Boots from LoZ? :p
#16: my bro tells me that there are Bagons on Route 3 and I'm just like "naaaahhhh i got a cutiefly"
CUTIEFLY SQUAD WE RIDE TOGETHER WE DIE TOGETHER
So basically what I did, but instead of only gen 1 pokemon you're doing only gen 7
Quote from: Nebbles on December 05, 2016, 04:56:01 PMCUTIEFLY SQUAD WE RIDE TOGETHER WE DIE TOGETHER
WAIT UP I WANT IN ON THIS
Quote from: Dudeman on December 05, 2016, 05:21:49 PMWAIT UP I WANT IN ON THIS
ME TOO
I SPENT 8 HOURS CHAINING FOR A SHINY ONE RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST TRIAL
she's the most OP member of my team now :^)
Quote from: dajwxp on December 05, 2016, 04:50:17 PMSo I just got Sun, because Singapore is too small or somehing? :p
(That and poor planning haha)
Gahhhhh you just got the game and you're already further than I am. I've had it since the release, but I'm just now searching for a Cutiefly before my first trial. It'll be my first Fairy-type ever so it'll be fun. I'm ready to harness the power of ribbons and the moon.
I'm so pleased with everything so far, and I'm still obsessed with the amazing indoor plants everywhere. And Slowpoke is my new best friend.
YES I'LL MAKE T-SHIRTS
Slowpoke is my co-pilot
My Slowbro is my rock and she is beautiful
Kelsey has been affectionately referred to as a Slowpoke since 8th grade.
I actually dropped slowpoke because he just wasn't good enough
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 05, 2016, 07:57:14 PMI actually dropped slowpoke because he just wasn't good enough
It does take too long to evolve. Slowbro is absolutely awesome though and it and Mimikyu are the reasons I could beat the Elite Four (well, I probably could have used a lot of items and still won, but I only used like one revive the whole time as it is).
Quote from: Dude on December 04, 2016, 10:50:11 AMbecause sun and moon will never have updates of their own, right?
Game Freak has
never added anything on a major scale into a Pokemon game via updates, and I doubt they ever will. If it's not in the code, then its not coming, and i'll be pretty damn surprised if they do. People thought they'd update XY with a second region/more pokemon and they never did, and they also hoped for a Battle Frontier DLC update in ORAS, but they never did.
I don't think it's out of the question for Gen VII though. Hopefully they'll add it to Stars/DP remakes/whatever is next.
Besides, it doesn't excuse how it should have been in there from day one considering that you can catch out of Alola Pokemon without bank via the Island Scan and it's a series staple.
Quote from: Nebbles on December 04, 2016, 11:56:54 AMWhy even bother to level 100, anyway? Unless you have a Pokemon that learns something at that move....... like Volcarona....ahem... there's really not much of a point to.
That's typically what I would say in most cases as well. (Heck back in Gen III I only got two Pokemon to level 100, my Espeon and Vaporeon but I honestly forgot how) Unfortunately, you NEED to be level 100 for the bottle caps to max out your IV stats. I don't know why, but that's a requirement, and therefore THAT is what's causing my issue. I can't make my Pokemon as super strong as I'd like them to be until I get them to level 100 for the IV maxing. I got the EVs all figured out now but the battle tree seems to want you to be at level 100 and get scaled back to level 50 for you to survive the super mode. (Don't even get me started on the battle royal...) Basically, the game only gives you a chance to survive the post-game facilities if you max EVs/IVs and are at level 100, but doesn't give you much of an easy way to GET to level 100 (despite it giving you easy EVs/IVs if you know what you're doing.)
Speaking of EVs, I'm quite pleased that I have nearly 20 pokemon ready to get max EVs for training. I don't think I've had that many in the other games so I'm happy they made it easier to track via the status screen/pelago. It's more useful than I expected.
....I had no idea you had to be level 100 for the bottle cap things. Hoo boy.
Quote from: Nebbles on December 05, 2016, 10:15:22 PM....I had no idea you had to be level 100 for the bottle cap things. Hoo boy.
This is why I'm quite content with breeding the old fashioned way.
Well, just in case I ever breed a shiny with not perfect IVs, I'll keep that in mind.
Man I wish I knew bottle caps maxed out ivs, I would have kept my shiny caterpie
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 06, 2016, 01:23:04 AMMan I wish I knew bottle caps maxed out ivs, I would have kept my shiny caterpie
Bottle caps only add padding to IVs so they behave like they're maxed out (this is important for HP, speed, attack, defence...although you may not want to max out HP, speed, or attack depending on the Pokemon set). Importantly, they leave Hidden Power alone, so you're stuck with whatever your true IVs generate for it.
I'm waiting with bated breath for the day that Pokemon Showdown implements Hyper Training (a.k.a. bottle caps). True max speed 'mons with Hidden Power Fire, here we come...
Watched the first two episodes of the Sun and Moon Anime, and... yeah...
Never thought I'd see the day where I couldn't follow along with a cartoon. It took a minute after watching each episode to process what the heck even happened.
(BTW didn't see a pokemon anime topic, so sorry if this is in the wrong place)
Quote from: Nebbles on December 05, 2016, 04:56:01 PMCUTIEFLY SQUAD WE RIDE TOGETHER WE DIE TOGETHER
Cutiefly with eviolite. I'm making it happen. I wish it got Pollen Puff too though...
Quote from: DocDoom2 on December 06, 2016, 09:32:42 AMCutiefly with eviolite. I'm making it happen. I wish it got Pollen Puff too though...
Given its stats, I'm not entirely sure that'll go so well...but good luck anyway!
aaaaaand now I'm thinking about Eviolite Dewpider. Hmm.
Eviolite Mudbray with Stamina.
Quote from: Nebbles on December 06, 2016, 10:26:24 AMEviolite Mudbray with Stamina.
That's actually a thing, though I've seen most people use Berry Juice in Little Cup.
Quote from: Dudeman on December 05, 2016, 10:29:00 PMThis is why I'm quite content with breeding the old fashioned way.
Can't breed legendaries/Ultra Beasts, though.
I might make a Little Cup team this time around, actually. Gotta ponder on it.
I need to breed myself a proper Dewpider for Assault Vest Araquanid fun times...
Quote from: Nebbles on December 06, 2016, 09:01:57 PMI need to breed myself a proper Dewpider for Assault Vest Araquanid fun times...
I could breed up a spare 5 IV Impish Dewpider if you're interested.
I'll take it for the IVs, but I was planning on making mine Adamant.
I was screwing around on pokemon showdown (and it won't let me save this team and battle with it) but my goal is to at some point have my ingame team look something like this:
Butterfree (F) @ BrightPowder
Ability: Compound Eyes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sleep Powder
- Bug Buzz
- Air Slash
- Quiver Dance
Arcanine (M) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Body Slam
- Iron Head
- Fire Fang
Dragonite @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
IVs: 22 SpA
- Roost
- Outrage
- Dragon Dance
- Fire Punch
Blastoise @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 84 Atk / 252 Def / 172 SpD
Impish Nature
- Waterfall
- Rest
- Power-Up Punch
- Rapid Spin
Golisopod @ Choice Band
Ability: Emergency Exit
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- First Impression
- Leech Life
- Poison Jab
Lycanroc
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Accelerock
- Stealth Rock
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge
Not bad at all! But Weakness Policy Dragonite is really funny too. I'd try it out.
I don't think Choice Band and First Impression is the best pairing.
Yeah, I'd slap Lefties on Golisopod instead.
oh is he forced into struggle
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-491511152
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2016, 09:18:07 PMI don't think Choice Band and First Impression is the best pairing.
Just what I was thinking. Pretty sure it would use Struggle, but quick research isn't bringing up anything on what happens if you used Fake Out while choiced.
In Bug-team news, Scolipede is being struck from my team 'cause you can't get HA Venipede in S/M. Taking a look at Vikavolt and Butterfree (thanks Noc) now.
EDIT: Also probably gonna run non-Mega Scizor 'cause I like things simpler.
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Butterfree http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-491536321
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7monotype-491539916
erm what
well I think it's safe to conclude at least that golisopod is definitely a top tier pokemon
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 06, 2016, 11:14:44 PMerm what
well I think it's safe to conclude at least that golisopod is definitely a top tier pokemon
I've been running Golisopod a lot lately and he's ok but his ability really hinders him. First Impression is gdlk tho
you have to play around it. I do think he works best as a bulky bander because it turns his ability into a free switch. Specifically with priority moves because it works as a way to break the band
Just checked the GTS for a Lunala and there was one offered for a Porygon Z.
Luckily I had one and I got it, and I can't believe it!
Actually, it's Adamant and has horrible IVs. Now I believe it xD
lmao DAMN, rip that lunala
On a luckier note I got my Atk, Def, Sp Def IV and Careful nature Buzzwole in about 5 SRs (Yes, it's a weird assault vest set I want xD)!
Buzzwole's pretty well off running bulky sets, so Careful is worth it, IMO.
Thanks! I'm having such a hard time figuring out a Xurkitree set now xD
If any of you have a good idea please tell me since the only ideas I have so far are these:
Xurkitree @ Life Orb
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt/Thunder
- Protect
- Tail Glow
Xurkitree @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt/Thunder
- Energy Ball
- Signal Beam
Xurkitree @ Life Orb
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
- Energy Ball
- Thunderbolt/Thunder
- Tail Glow
- Protect
Don't use legendaries in ou
Scarf seems fine
Don't listen to Noc.
Also, I'm pretty hesitant about Choice Scarf, given the prevalence of Alolan Marowak. Protect is pretty useless on Xurkitree, IMO, and Thunder should only be used if you have Rain; also, Tail Glow and Volt Switch don't go together well, and really hurt Xurkitree's coverage when together (probably the only time you should use two Electric-type moves on Xurkitree is with Choice Scarf). If you're playing on Pokemon Showdown, you'd also want to highly consider Hidden Power Water or Ice.
I bought the guide book today. I think it's gonna tell me everything I wanna know
Thanks! I'm still a noob at move sets lol
I think this is what I'll do, again tell me if I messed something up!
Xurkitree @ Life Orb
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
- HP Water (If I can get it quickly with SRs, otherwise some other special attack)
- Thunderbolt
- Energy Ball
- Tail Glow
Why 252 hp? Wasted potential imo
Like I don't know anything about xurkitree but he seems like the kind of thing you'd stick a sash on to guarantee a tail glow and then go ham with t/bolt or volt switch
Quote from: DocDoom2 on December 09, 2016, 08:46:31 PMThanks! I'm still a noob at move sets lol
I think this is what I'll do, again tell me if I messed something up!
Xurkitree @ Life Orb
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
- HP Water (If I can get it quickly with SRs, otherwise some other special attack)
- Thunderbolt
- Energy Ball
- Tail Glow
I would recommend 252 Speed EVs as well; Modest nature is fine, but (personally!) I'd recommend Sticky Web support if possible to maximize Xurkitree's potential. Also, if you can't get the right IVs, you could probably just have Dazzling Gleam and build the rest of your team to deal with Alolan Marowak and other stuff not covered by Energy Ball. :P
Quote from: DocDoom2 on December 09, 2016, 08:46:31 PMThanks! I'm still a noob at move sets lol
I think this is what I'll do, again tell me if I messed something up!
Xurkitree @ Life Orb
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
- HP Water (If I can get it quickly with SRs, otherwise some other special attack)
- Thunderbolt
- Energy Ball
- Tail Glow
This set is resisted by Dragons (although not Alolan Marowak), which is why more people prefer Hidden Power Ice. Given Xurkitree's speed problems, I also recommend 252 speed EVs and Timid.
Alright, let's see if I've got this all correct!
So 252 Speed and Special Attack, Life Orb, Timid, HP Ice or Dazzling Gleam instead of Water?
Thanks for the help!
Wow. That was an impressive cover imo.
That cover is awesome. All I want now is a cover of Festival Plaza (Night) and then I'd be fine with no more Sun/Moon covers.
I still think a sash would be better on something as flimsy as xurkitree
Still no shiny Rowlet :( Send me your energy, guys.
Quote from: Dekkadeci on December 10, 2016, 05:59:11 AMThis set is resisted by Dragons (although not Alolan Marowak), which is why more people prefer Hidden Power Ice. Given Xurkitree's speed problems, I also recommend 252 speed EVs and Timid.
From personal experience, I've found that, without Zygarde-Complete present in OU, Alolan Marowak is more of a threat to Xurkitree than Dragons, since it can completely wall it even with some SpA boosts (immune to Electric-type and resistant to Xurkitree's primary non-STAB moves); Dragons, on the other hand, still fear Xurkitree's STAB, especially if they're neutral to it like, say, Dragonite is. Of course, you could always replace Tail Glow with Dazzling Gleam if you can trust that you'll get enough boosts simply through KOs (entry hazards also help with this).
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 10, 2016, 01:45:36 PMI still think a sash would be better on something as flimsy as xurkitree
Honestly, it probably wouldn't make much of a difference; if you can't OHKO something, you're just doing to go down next turn, and if you do OHKO something, you're still just going to go down next turn anyway! It needs power to guarantee OHKOs or speed to guarantee it has enough time to take out 1-2+ things before it goes... hence why I recommend Sticky Web, so you get both power and speed advantages.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 10, 2016, 01:45:36 PMI still think a sash would be better on something as flimsy as xurkitree
sash in general is a pretty crap item
Quote from: FireArrow on December 10, 2016, 04:12:52 PMsash in general is a pretty crap item
I disagree with that! It's simply that Pokemon that can take advantage of it would most often rather a power or speed boost instead. It still has its uses, of course!
sash is for the pokemon that need to survive a hit to get off a stat boost like ninjask
idk zurkitree's stats but from what I understand it's super glass cannon
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 10, 2016, 05:16:50 PMsash is for the pokemon that need to survive a hit to get off a stat boost like ninjask
idk zurkitree's stats but from what I understand it's super glass cannon
It's a bit frail but I wouldn't especially call it "super glass cannon."
Pheromosa, on the other hand...
then maybe life orb is better if it can take a neutrally effective hit
Sash is good on some suicide leads and that's pretty much it. Ninjask should never run it because substitute is way better.
If you're going for a tail glow Xuxitree set, I'd use life orb/zap plate and maybe expert belt/leftovers if that's more your style.
Sash is great on my Shell Smash Cloyster :^)
well there are 2 ways to build ninjask
the first is the traditional +6 speed boost baton pass that dies to priority taunts. The second is the Swords Dance/X Scissor Sash lead that can occasionally OHKO grass type leads
Although I just played against a pokemon called Whirlisomething and apparently that's just a better ninjask so ninjask is just irrelevant now
Quote from: Nebbles on December 10, 2016, 05:28:46 PMSash is great on my Shell Smash Cloyster :^)
It's a gimmick. If there are hazards on the field or the opponents team has any priority whatsoever you completely wasted an item slot (note: those two situations are really common.)
Quote from: FireArrow on December 10, 2016, 05:40:46 PMIt's a gimmick. If there are hazards on the field or the opponents team has any priority whatsoever you completely wasted an item slot (note: those two situations are really common.)
battling in general became a gimmick after 5th gen
Quote from: FireArrow on December 10, 2016, 05:40:46 PMIt's a gimmick. If there are hazards on the field or the opponents team has any priority whatsoever you completely wasted an item slot (note: those two situations are really common.)
Oh, I'm completely aware. But if you get it off turn one, entry hazards aren't a worry to it, and I can just ride Smell Smash + Skill Link bullshit unless I'm facing someone who actually knows how to deal with it.
does mold breaker stop skill link
I mean, it should?
It doesn't. Mold Breaker only applies when the Pokémon with Mold Breaker is attacking the target.
man the fairy trial was my favorite
edit: my signature was supposed to be this dunsparce but this works too
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Hau'oli city (Day) is my new alarm tone
part two of my clueless impressions! ^^ Did up to the second island this weekend~
~
daj goes into Sun and Moon blind:- only knowing the soundtrack
- and the names of the legendary pokes
- and for once, no knowledge of any stats and numbers
~
Spoiler
Chapter 2:
111216 - Akala done and dusted~
Mallow looked cuter when I was watching LPs.
Paniola Town's night version. So heartfelt and human. Tear-worthy <3
Though Paniola Town is actually kinda useless ahaha
The Ranch also has a great bgm track and I just stood there listening to it despite having arranged and analysed it <3
I love how Route 5 is constructed. Makes you have to backtrack at some point for sure. Reminds me of Zelda and zelda is yay
Lana's personality is as washy as the fishes she trains. But that's a nice touch I guess ^^
That being said the Water Totem fight was actually quite challenging, the rain made it a pain.
The first check I made on serebii.net - how the hell does Wishiwashi change forms? (apparently just sending it out in battle would have shown me the truth)
"oh yeah so those sudowoodos were annoying so i unloaded an overpowered attack in them. no worries tis cool" welp lana gives zero fucks clearly
Kiawe's trial is absolutely fucking amazing. Oh my goodness. The sheer amount of troll. Everywhere. I won't spoil this one for those who haven't played the game, because oh my god it's brilliant. Love it, great one Game Freak <3
Easy fight though, rockruff destroyed it.
Mallow's trial was a little disappointing because I thought it'd be some happy-go-lucky thingy based on the OST. Turns out the "Mallow's Trial" track only plays when you're mashing the ingredients. Haiz.
The totem fight was legit tough though. Synthesis, welp.
Aether people are scary and weird and probably evil.
The whole white thingy too, whut.
Wait, did that lady just admit that the Pokedex is messed up? Corsola bits?? whaaaatttt
The only thing I care about President Lusamine is her amazing musical themes. And, also judging from the OST she's probably evil.
Her hair tho
So I guess that means the whole Aether thing is a misguided evil group or just a bunch of fake people...?
(fighting the thing that came out of the space hole oh my) what the fuck did i just fight and how did it kill my ribombee
Also yep, confirmed. Lusamine is evil. Very evil. She's probably going to take advantage of the whole "chosen one" thingy and whatever else not
Which reminds me that I'm probably a chosen one or something
TM Psychic?? Ooh. That's nice.
Seeing Hau down his malasada and casually giving zero shits about the death of the world (c'mon, it's coming) is pretty heartwarming <3
Hey we're at literally the same stage of the game so I could read that without spoiling the game for myself yay
thank you for again being proof that the story is in every way entirely too obvious
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 11, 2016, 01:08:49 PMthank you for again being proof that the story is in every way entirely too obvious
i read you guys say earlier that the team aether being evil was way too easy to guess but they literally reveal it in an opening cutscene, so it's not like they were hiding it to begin with
I predicted it when they were first revealed lmao
look, if you're wearing matching uniforms, you're the bad guy. Although technically the Aether foundation wasn't really the bad guy, it was almost strictly just lusamine (who still wasn't even that bad, just a bit obsessed)
I should just tear the story apart because I really did not like it that much
I loved the story, it just wasn't that surprising. The characters were awesome and I ended up loving them all by the end. I'm not the sort of person who needs plot twists or shocking developments to enjoy a good story; it's just got to have good characters who are interesting to be with.
Yeah, I agree with Slow.
Which, by the way, was why I felt the story of XY came up short. I didn't care about any of the rival/friend characters and literally the only parts of the story I cared about were with Lysandre and Team Flare. Even then, the interesting aspects of the plot were ignored by the game and it ended up falling flat. Sun and Moon, on the other hand, did exactly the right things with the characters it introduced. I can't think of any off the top of my head that came across as annoying or less-than-great, except maybe Kukui (and even he was likable, just not overly interesting or unique). But yeah, it's like? A lot of the Ace Attorney cases literally start off by telling you who the murderer is and the fun is from the smaller surprises, like the way the characters react to one another or small details about the murder plot or the people involved that make you view the case in a different light. It's not all about the shock value or surprise twists for me.
Slow hit the nail on the head about the story. I agree fully.
I don't really understand what the aether foundation/lusamine was doing wrong. I don't exactly know how to articulate what I'm thinking but I didn't see why we were trying so hard to stop them from whatever it was they were doing
Agreed with Slow. <3
Nothing was more disappointing than XY's shallow storyline (and shallow OST ahaha), and I absolutely love how the events are unfolding in Sun and Moon. The added mechanics (turns out Z-moves are really cool) and the whole "not-Pokemon" thingy with Ultra Beasts and stuff is brilliant. Love the way these elements are weaved into the story.
As a side note I guess Lillie isn't a dynamic character, but she is really intriguing I guess. Waiting to figure out which part of Aether she messed up~
@Nocturne
Spoiler
The short answer is heavily implied experimentation on Pokémon (I got an "animal experimentation" vibe somewhere there), which I guess was confirmed when you see all of the Pokémon Lusamine has forced into cryogenic sleep. It was also mainly Lusamine, who was acting under Nihilego's influence, who was power hungry and a horrible person (she forced her daughter to dress like Nihilego while obsessed with it, and literally neglected Gladion and Lillie when they didn't obey her every wish) and not the entire Aether Foundation, as in the post game most of the members express guilt over the events of the game.
@dajwkp I actually didn't really care that much about Lillie for most of the game, but I ended up loving her by the end. I'd say Hau was the least dynamic character, as he's pretty much the same at the beginning as he is at the end. I mean that was fine by me since I love the kid to pieces, but I'd say it's fair to argue he didn't have any development.
Spoiler
At one point one of the grunts is like "so now you know the truth about us" or something like that "you've seen the dark side of the aether foundation" idr. I didn't get a pokemon experimentation vibe at all. Like I guess the whole cryogenic sleep thing is supposed to be bad, but literally she's doing it because she wants to be with her pokemon forever... The only clear antagonist I could potentially see is nihilego, which is just a parasitic legendary pokemon so it doesn't really have a conscience or like a knowledge of right and wrong. I don't know much about XY but Lysander seems like a much cooler villain to me based off of that one webcomic. Maybe lusamine is a terrible mom and not a good person in general but from an ideology standpoint I don't really see how she could be an antagonist. At best I felt like an observer in some silly family drama that I shouldn't have gotten involved in
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 11, 2016, 06:18:32 PM@Nocturne Spoiler
The short answer is heavily implied experimentation on Pokémon (I got an "animal experimentation" vibe somewhere there), which I guess was confirmed when you see all of the Pokémon Lusamine has forced into cryogenic sleep. It was also mainly Lusamine, who was acting under Nihilego's influence, who was power hungry and a horrible person (she forced her daughter to dress like Nihilego while obsessed with it, and literally neglected Gladion and Lillie when they didn't obey her every wish) and not the entire Aether Foundation, as in the post game most of the members express guilt over the events of the game.
@dajwkp I actually didn't really care that much about Lillie for most of the game, but I ended up loving her by the end. I'd say Hau was the least dynamic character, as he's pretty much the same at the beginning as he is at the end. I mean that was fine by me since I love the kid to pieces, but I'd say it's fair to argue he didn't have any development.
Further answers to NocturneOfShadow from reading about the game and some of its script, not playing it:
Spoiler
Lillie figured out that Lusamine's plans to stress out the Aether Foundation Cosmog so much that it makes Ultra Wormholes in attempts to escape would kill it fairly quickly. She ran away with Cosmog and Nebby's probably happier with her. If you're morally against abusing and killing Pokemon, you're morally against how Lusamine's abusing her inheritance of the family Aether Foundation business.
If you're morally against kidnapping (I've heard vicious things about mothers kidnapping their own children IRL), you're also morally against Lusamine getting people to kidnap Lillie and Cosmog back.
That Gladion ran away (for Team Skull, no less!) with another 'mon cryogenically frozen by Aether doesn't help Lusamine's reputation. I'd like to think that Gladion ran away after becoming pretty disillusioned by what Aether was doing to (relatively few, but still) Pokemon. He cares about his sister a lot more than he cares about his mom. (Gladion seems like he has every intention of freeing every frozen Type: Null, and gives you another post-game.)
As far as I know, all those Ultra Wormholes are perilous tears in the universe that pour out Ultra Beasts, which add to the danger. The Tapus may not give two hoots about protecting humankind and may not give a hoot about humanity in general (though I'd think that Tapu Koko is the most interested in how humans behave), but they're guarding the islands from Ultra Beasts no matter what.
Gladion eventually rationalizes that Lusamine behaved this way because she lost her husband to Ultra Space experimentation--all that was left afterwards were the Aether Foundation Cosmog and some notes--and she's doing all this to get her husband back. ...Though if Ultra Space intruded that badly, I think that's when she fell under a Nihilego's influence...
For another angle, as far as I can tell, the Aether Foundation and Team Skull were at odds for pretty much the entire lifetime of the group founded second, but they're agreeing to kidnap Lillie and Cosmog back.
All this is making me wonder whether all of Guzma's talk about being "destruction in human form" is hyperbole like I first assumed before Sun and Moon's release or it was tainted by Ultra Beast (Nihilego or Xurkitree) influence.
remember these are 11 year old kids. Assuming that
Spoiler
any stressors to cosmog is technically causing it physical pain
seems like a rash assumption to make. Like, I have no doubt that all their processes adhered to the scientific method and was generally humane in practice.
Spoiler
as far as IRL custody kidnappings, those can only happen when the mother doesn't have legal custody of the child. Again, this was literally just an overblown family argument where the kids ran away from home. Since apparently there's no CPS in the pokemon world, kids just kinda go out and become pokemon trainers (or bums living with shirtless professors, depending on how defenseless you are).
I'm not necessarily defending anyone's actions, just that strictly calling them morally wrong is a bit of a stretch.
I liked the story, the only place where I think it tripped up is:
Spoiler
How Lusamine is suddenly good after being separated from Nihilego.
Maybe I missed something, but overall I really enjoyed the characters.
The only exception was Hau who felt a little generic to me, but he was still a cool character.
Quote from: DocDoom2 on December 13, 2016, 08:30:44 AMI liked the story, the only place where I think it tripped up is:
Spoiler
How Lusamine is suddenly good after being separated from Nihilego.
My response to the spoiler:
Spoiler
When I last read the script, I don't remember finding any lines from Lusamine after she separated from that Nihilego and passed out. Put it this way: she's in a bad enough state that Gladion, her son and a known Type: Null thief and defector to Team Skull, is the new Aether Foundation president.
Quote from: Dekkadeci on December 13, 2016, 08:50:51 PMSpoiler
she's in a bad enough state that Gladion, her son and a known Type: Null thief and defector to Team Skull, is the new Aether Foundation president.
wow that's like four people
#OxfordCommaMasterRace
oh you didn't even play the game
DISCREDIT YOU
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 13, 2016, 09:00:09 PMoh you didn't even play the game
DISCREDIT YOU
The closest I'm going to get to playing any of this generation's games is playing on Pokemon Showdown. Great, now I've got to stop coming up with teams and playing there...
Yay! Shiny Mudbray in about 100 S.O.S.'s!
My second Shiny in Sun!
Congrats! :) I hatched a shiny Rowlet earlier today too.
I gave Torracat an everstone.
EDIT: Nvm I need it to evolve for the Pokedex
Quote from: Nebbles on December 15, 2016, 08:54:43 PMCongrats! :) I hatched a shiny Rowlet earlier today too.
Thanks! Congrats to you too! I need to get started on getting shiny starters myself.
Got a shiny Ledyba and Rattata! My shiny luck is actually good for a change!
Quote from: braixen1264 on December 16, 2016, 12:47:22 PMI gave Torracat an everstone.
EDIT: Nvm I need it to evolve for the Pokedex
You could breed it and then evolve the Litten if you want to keep Torracat.
Before I saw Incineroar's stats I liked Torracat more, but it in the end it got beat out beccause I love tank/tankish pokemon for some reason...
I just finished the game
Disclaimer: I really don't know what I'm talking about, just going off of feeling. I suck at videogames.
Characters: 9.8/10
I actually genuinely love the characters for once. Team Skull is hilarious, which I totally didn't expect. Hau could have been better, but Lillie and Gladion more than make up for that. I felt really connected to the story for the first time in a very long while. Omega gud job
Mechanics and Side Stuff:7.5/10
I'm bad at videogames so if I didn't grind my Pokémon past lv60 I probably would've found it impossible to defeat the Elite 4 and Kukui. I like the ride pager, pretty nice way to get rid of HM slaves. Pikyumuku chucking, battle buffet, shopping for clothes, hair customization, etc were really pretty cool. Nothing really new and outstanding here, but it's nice. Side quests are fun too, like those trainers that battle you after you defeat every other one on the route. Poke Pelago felt a bit useless to me, but I'm just bad at using it I think. I did like Join Avenue better than Festival Plaza, though. I think the communication features could have been a lot nicer, and it wasn't really what I wanted. I don't know if I'm in love with the whole island trial thing, and the elite four idea seems to just come out of nowhere. No Victory Road was a little disappointing, honestly. The road to the elite four was a tad bit underwhelming for me, but the final stretch looked really cool with all the snow and whatnot. I don't like how MC is always smiling in the cutscenes; it freaks me out.
Music: 9/10
When I listened to some of these tracks for the first time, I hated them. Some of those being Konikoni City(Night), Pokémon Center, and the Team Skull themes. Eventually though, the music really grew on me. I love all the encounter music especially. Also Lusamine's battle theme is A+. They did a nice job setting the mood through the music imo.
Story: 0/10
Fuck you GameFreak, Lillie didn't have to go ;_;
Overall: 0/10
I'm actually so upset that Lillie left, you have no idea
Haha I was going to try to finish the game, buuuuut the League is actually quite tough. Guess I'll need to grind and wait for next week. And maybe use Solgaleo. sigh.
Braix i'll open your spoiler next weekend when I do finish the game haha. And um, I'll do that clueless impressions thing soon ^^
I really hope I get to see more Lillie though. Grown to love her as a character so much <3
Rip why does everyone hate my son Hau
Also Poké Pelago is the best new feature idk what you're talking about
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 18, 2016, 09:15:04 AMAlso Poké Pelago is the best new feature idk what you're talking about
Seconded, never before could you EV train in your sleep
Currently looking for someone to trade me a Scizor, Slowking, or Weavile if they have it. I used my King's Rock on Politoed and don't want to have to grind for hours at the Battle Tree to get the others' items. ALSO Honchkrow if you have it would be awesome because I only have one more Dusk Stone and wanted to train a Honchkrow competitively. Solgaleo is another one I'm missing, but I'm guessing I can trade one of my Lunala for it when I get the other one so it's not necessary.
Obviously I'll trade any of these right back, I'm just literally seven away from completing my Pokédex and need the data.
Quote from: Dudeman on December 18, 2016, 10:50:59 AMSeconded, never before could you EV train in your sleep
I love the Pelago just for this reason - I can hatch a batch of eggs and EV train while sleeping. It's so convenient and I really love it.
Update: I no longer need Scizor.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 18, 2016, 12:06:41 PMCurrently looking for someone to trade me a Scizor, Slowking, or Weavile if they have it. I used my King's Rock on Politoed and don't want to have to grind for hours at the Battle Tree to get the others' items.
I know that you can't get a Metal Coat through the Battle Tree; you'll have to Thief one off of a Magnemite. Better than grinding for BP but hey, I can understand not wanting to do this either. Coincidentally I'm currently breeding for a good Scyther so if you don't have a Scizor by the time I get one, I can help there. EXCEPT I GOT NINJA'D SO NVM :P
QuoteALSO Honchkrow if you have it would be awesome because I only have one more Dusk Stone and wanted to train a Honchkrow competitively.
If you're running low on evolutionary stones, you could expand Isle Aphun (if you haven't already) to get the rare stones path and use that. Usually gives a good selection.
I've used the stone Isle Aphun nine million times and never gotten a Dusk Stone.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 18, 2016, 12:38:41 PMI've used the stone Isle Aphun nine million times and never gotten a Dusk Stone.
oh wait you have sun right
I think I read somewhere that dawn and dusk stones are exclusive to sun and moon, respectively
oops
EDIT: nvm that's not a thing ignore this
I have Moon LMAO yeah man
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 18, 2016, 12:06:41 PMCurrently looking for someone to trade me a Scizor, Slowking, or Weavile if they have it. I used my King's Rock on Politoed and don't want to have to grind for hours at the Battle Tree to get the others' items. ALSO Honchkrow if you have it would be awesome because I only have one more Dusk Stone and wanted to train a Honchkrow competitively. Solgaleo is another one I'm missing, but I'm guessing I can trade one of my Lunala for it when I get the other one so it's not necessary.
Obviously I'll trade any of these right back, I'm just literally seven away from completing my Pokédex and need the data.
I'll trade my slowpoke for your politoed
You're actually too late, I got everything from the GTS. I had to sacrifice my Celesteela though rip
part three of my clueless impressions! ^^
stopped after getting rekt by Olivia in the elite four haiz my team why
~
daj goes into Sun and Moon blind:- only knowing the soundtrack
- and the names of the legendary pokes
- and for once, no knowledge of any stats and numbers
~
Spoiler
Chapter 3:
181216 - dont choose litten.
Can we accept that Malie City's BGM is a masterpiece? The oriental flavour is real.
I mean I'm not supposed to care about the soundtrack more than the game but hey this is NSM gimme some space
Guzma gets rekt, ahahaha what is bug type
Acerola's chibi face. I cannot.
Does the whole of Ula'ula outside the cities use the same BGM?? twas nice for a while but this is overkill ahaha
Lillie proves to be useless again.
I sincerely hope the Haina Desert isn't important, because that saves some backtracking.
welp, i backtracked anyway in the end
The Ghost trial was scarier in the OST. And the description Acerola gave. Still a brilliant one tho.
Mimikyu is kinda scary. Was an easy boss tho, welp.
oh god what was that. acerola went white. and dont think i missed what was going on in the background.
Lillie seriously needs to get her shit together. And maybe Acerola needs some help too.
That being said it's a yungoos wait is that how you even spell that
Grimsley is in the game. whuuuuuuut
Surfing route turns out to be kinda useless, unless I'm missing out on some great TM. Probably not worth the backtracking.
seriously is there only one route theme here
Po Town is a masterpiece. Both the lore and the BGM. I'll spend an entire post explaining why, but I love it. It's the first time we see something like this in a Pokemon game, and it's brilliant.
that being said i need to stop wrecking guzma he's too easy
Nanu is weird. Can we just agree on that? And how does he get his own theme?
Gladion starts a fight with me and I'm like "oh sure haha i'll take the exp"
Nanu shows up again. whuuuuut
Oh, apparently he's a kahuna. Cool. Maybe he'll smile after the battle.
he really did smile after the battle.
So the OST spoilt it for me, but when I took a boat with Gladion to Aether I knew what it was for. Stupid OST.
"infiltration", "the secret side of aether paradise", "battle lusamine" yeah ok i got it
Great soundtrack though. <3 the battle theme is beautiful, the whole concept of the music, yadda yadda
Faba gets burnt really bad by Hau. I'm just laughing out loud alone in my room welp
Meanwhile Hau doesn't get how serious this is gosh i love him
"hey you could just have gone into hiding and we would have never found the key right?" yeah i love this guy
Open the big door. Skull grunts lying on the ground amidst the white palace. The juxtaposition, dang <3
it's like the happy combination of black and white, except the white is really really white. idek
I love how the third grunt just doesn't fight you xD
And here, against Guzma, I blacked out for the first time. Lycanroc couldn't hit Rock Slide three times. That's a (0.05)^3 chance. Them odds.
Also apparently golisopod has water stab whoops no wonder my team was evaporating
see, the wonders of going in a game blind
So the whole Aether thing is a family thing. I guess the "mother and daughter" track spoilt it for me, ahaha
Didn't expect Gladion to be involved tho, whoop
So they're all weirdos. Makes sense.
Lusamine tho. She's actually a little crazy up there.
"ahh wow this jellyfish is beautiful i love it yayyyyy"
I actually struggled a little with her Clefable. And her Milotic could have wiped me. But welp, i guess she was kinda easy overall.
She's still crazy though holy shite
I've bashed the whole Aether thing a bit, but I'm actually really glad that this appeared in a Pokemon story. It's like a less real version of any dystopian story ever. Also more info in my Team Skull commentary <3
Lillie looks awesome without her princess suit, really. It's weird I'm saying this about a game character but y'know
I tried the lower option once, saw Lillie's pissed face, and now i swear i'll do anything to see her rage again ahahaha
Also apparently i'm not the chosen one, it's just that i have a friend with a cosmog. weeelllp.
Dang. With all the awesome plot points that were orchestrated on the last three islands, Poni island seemed a little rushed and sad. Love the BGM, but it was just weird when you got random Z-crystals from random places.
Exeggutor Island was also kinda useless. Except, it has a legendary item there. And I took it. So um, any random guy could just take it. inb4 i play the flute without practice
slightly hate myself for killing the long neck exeggutor. i didn't know it was a dragon D:
ah screw you ribombee why do you fail me at times like these
though ok at least you feed less than incineroar PLS DONT CHOOSE LITTEN GUYS it really sucks
Lake of the Moone is in Pokemon Sun. hmmmmmmm
Yeah, Poni Island feels like a last-ditch attempt to give us all the Z-Crystals. one disappointment, i guess.
The altar has nice music and nothing much else haha. welp.
Yeah, we play the flute without practice. In harmony. Makes for a great BGM track and lots of weird plot questions left unanswered.
Well, lots of things happened really fast back there, but we're in Ultra Space.
Ultra Space has a fantastic BGM track...and is tiny as hell. Even smaller than the Distortion World, which I thought would have been a nice model to work after. Ah well, at least I get my Lusamine fight.
Lusamine's beast mode is...tentacle-y. it's also freaky as hell.
I'm tearing when I hear the "Showdown (Lusamine)" track because it's woven in beautifully and I spent too much of my playtime wondering when this track would play. Yep, i love this track that much~
ALL OF LUSAMINE'S POKEMONZ ARE ANGRY AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
seriously tho, nice touch there <3
Her Clefable is the first time I needed +6 stats (6x Quiver Dance, ribombee mvp) in a Pokemon game. I could have swept i guess but i wanted to hear the track more
As a side note, I like how her team is based on the idea of daintiness and beauty. Except Bewear. but bewear is cute c'mon i love bewear
My Crabrawler is still a Crabrawler at lvl 50. Maybe it evolves to a dragon...?
(update: nope! It evolves to a feeder Ice/Fighting type that's slower than the pre-evo form. it also needs to level up at victory road. DONT GET A CRABRAWLER GUYS)
I love how Lusamine just loves Lillie after the Nihilego lets go of her.
On second thought maybe it's the Solgaleo's blast that woke her up AH WELL IT DOESNT MATTER
So I was right on something. Lillie is a dynamic character. whoop.
You can disagree with me, but I love the Solgaleo/Lunala fight theme. Yeah, it's simple, but it leaves frequency room for the low-end when Solgaleo uses its signature move. And it's decently hyped, so that's nice ^^
go jun'ichi i love you
Lonely Lillie is the most beautiful piano solo I've ever heard in any game ever, over KH even. the tears are real only because this track is so beautiful.
NO! LILLIE GOES AWAY D:
Pls tell me she comes back
AHAHA I LISTENED TO THE STAFF CREDITS TRACK!! HER THEME IS IN IT <3
Haha you blacked out vs guzma
Quote from: Dudeman on December 18, 2016, 10:50:59 AMSeconded, never before could you EV train in your sleep
Thirded. It's the best replacement for Pokerus IMO
Isn't it just so much faster to use the power items
I don't have the patience to grind for the BP
Man, if only they would give us battle frontiers again. I have hundreds of leftover bp in plat just from playing battle factory over and over
The Battle Tree is slow, and god there's some BS in there... I miss the frontiers sooo much...
The shiny charm is incredible. I found a shiny Pyukumuku after chaining 20 (sadly it interrupted my chaining for one with good IVs, but oh well) and the very first Murkrow I hatched trying to get a good IV one was also shiny.
...geez, I wish I had that luck with the shiny charm.
If it makes you feel any better, both of the shiny ones I have also have terrible stats
:( I've been trying to bred shinies for my friends for days upon end though, with no luck...
okay FINALLY got this game and because I'm dumb I didn't use all my extra time to think of the perfect nickname for my popplio ughh
I wanna name it Pop but I feel like that's soo unoriginal, and bubbles is cute but thats ME so I can't really use that either :cc maybe Poppy too that's kinda cute
Bubbles Jr
I'm so mad at myself I'm normally great at naming Pokémon/pets in general and popplio is so special to me he deserves the best but I can't do it 😢
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 24, 2016, 10:26:04 AMThe shiny charm is incredible. I found a shiny Pyukumuku after chaining 20 (sadly it interrupted my chaining for one with good IVs, but oh well) and the very first Murkrow I hatched trying to get a good IV one was also shiny.
Nice! I already have 7 shinies and I still don't have the shiny charm, I feel like I got a lucky copy of the game xD
Quote from: Bubbles on December 24, 2016, 05:51:46 PMI wanna name it Pop but I feel like that's soo unoriginal, and bubbles is cute but that ME so I can't really use that either :cc maybe Poppy too that's kinda cute
I'm not that good at nicknames but maybe: Popper, Popstar, or Poplioon?
ALSO: Merry Christmas everyone!
Even though it's not Christmas here yet...
For reference, I named mine NotAWhore
Puddles, Pebbles, Popple
I screwed myself over last gen naming my Fennekin Fifi, like how tf am I supposed to one up that 🙄
^My Fennekin when I got around to choosing one was Finicky. I loved that so much. And my Chespin was Chippy. Gen VI was a good nickname gen for me
I tend to not name my pokemon
I'm currently in the Po Mansion, and I've found all three passwords, but what does the guy mean by learning about Team Skull's history?
Also, speaking of nicknames, what should I call my Charjabug?
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on December 25, 2016, 11:09:54 AMI'm currently in the Po Mansion, and I've found all three passwords, but what does the guy mean by learning about Team Skull's history?
Clearly, you didn't read one of those password papers very thoroughly.
For the record, I didn't get it either. You have to answer "no" at the end.
SNED HLEP I NEED A CELESTEELA AND NOBODY HAS ONE PLS HELP ME ANYONE
Celesteela?
Spoiler
Isn't that the ultrabeast?
Yeees I've been on the gts for ever and I physically can't trade for one because they all ask for celesteela whyy
I'll trade you my extra one for a kartana
Edit: Buzzwole is good too, and there might be some other exclusives that I need but I already have turtonator and vulpix and I can't think of any others atm
I would trade one to you buuuttt. I kinda restarted my game for the lols.
It's too late I spent all day on the gts searching for one that wanted a kartana but they all wanted legendaries like why would you want more than one legendary so about 30 minutes ago I finally found a tapu koko and traded away my level 95 umbreon for that just so that I had 2 so that I could trade a LEGENDARY for an ultra beast that is necessary for me to complete my Pokedex, I don't even want or will ever touch because it's ugly, and that you get 4 of anyway because all 12 year old kids want is another rare pokemon that they can show off to their friends
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 29, 2016, 06:29:43 PMlike why would you want more than one legendary
*nervously looks at my 18 giratina*
uh
... ...
i'm sorry what
*Looks at 3 Arceus from Pokemon Black 2*
It's not hax, I traded with a kid at school. But the problem here is he had 2 Arceus, I dunno where I got the 3rd one from.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on December 29, 2016, 07:43:21 PMIt's not hax, I traded with a kid at school. But the problem here is he had 2 Arceus, I dunno where I got the 3rd one from.
How do you know the kid didn't hax
leave me and my 18 satanic children out of this
It's people like you that ruin the gts economy
I'll have you know all those Giratina came from events, soft resetting, and gifts to the glorious giraqueena.
You could... you could build a wall with all those Giratina.
I WILL BUILD
THE GREATEST WALL
SINNOH HAS EVER SEEN
TO BUILD IT IS MY REAL TEST
TO BLOCK THEM IS MY CAUSE
you guys have too much energy for me
THE GREAT WALL OF SINNOH
Wait a minute...
*looks at map of Sinnoh* But it's an island!
Is it really? A Sinnoh remake would make it so there are 3 pokemon island regions in a row...
SINNOH CONFIRMED!
Hmmm... if we're still going with that wall thing, I guess it would be a Civil War having erupted in the region.
...
SPACE VS. TIME
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on December 30, 2016, 08:51:37 AMIs it really? A Sinnoh remake would make it so there are 3 pokemon island regions in a row...
SINNOH CONFIRMED!
If you want to get down to the technical stuff, all of the Pokémon regions are based on real world locations. Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh are all based on areas of Japan, which is--you guessed it--a group of islands. ;D
japan confirmed
So, we haven't had anything but a bunch of islands... *Looks at Kalos*... That doesn't count.
Sigh. Unova and Kalos are based on New York City and France, respectively. So neither of those are islands.
I forgot about Unova... Oops.
Don't those four mean north south east and west in japanese
Not...not even close.
Where did you.....never mind
I hate Tapu Bulu honestly. He's a grass type that lives in a desert. His ability heals every pokemon on the screen. He's the second coolest-looking one but he sucks.
Yeah it'd be nice if they made Grassy Terrain only heal the pokemon of the person who activated it.
Tapu Bulu's stats are really nice though so that kinda makes up for that for me!
Turtonator disappointed me though, I was hoping he'd have, you know, a BST higher than 485...
Shoutout to shado, ruto, zeila, and dudeman for helping finish my pokedex, it was pretty crazy
Quote from: DocDoom2 on December 31, 2016, 09:04:40 AMYeah it'd be nice if they made Grassy Terrain only heal the pokemon of the person who activated it.
Tapu Bulu's stats are really nice though so that kinda makes up for that for me!
Turtonator disappointed me though, I was hoping he'd have, you know, a BST higher than 485...
Still better than Shiinotic's lousy 405...
Quote from: mastersuperfan on December 31, 2016, 10:48:25 AMStill better than Shiinotic's lousy 405...
I know right? Don't get me started on Shiinotic...
I suppose every generation has its bad Pokemon though.
Mudsdale with stamina is the best pokemon period.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on December 31, 2016, 07:05:15 AMI hate Tapu Bulu honestly. He's a grass type that lives in a desert. His ability heals every pokemon on the screen. He's the second coolest-looking one but he sucks.
And 4x weak to Poison-type. Has a nice Choice Band Wood Hammer, though.
Am I the only one who hopes every year that the legendaries are either good enough to be banned or bad enough to be unviable, and not simply strong?
Like I wish all the ultra beasts were kartana
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 31, 2016, 07:44:52 PMAm I the only one who hopes every year that the legendaries are either good enough to be banned or bad enough to be unviable, and not simply strong?
Like I wish all the ultra beasts were kartana
Kartana isn't the closest to getting banned by Smogon--Pheromosa is. (Genesect is the one who's currently being suspect tested, though.)
I haven't found Kartana to be quite so troublesome to face because it almost can't take any special attacks (I cleanly OHKO it with Latias Draco Meteor and Magearna Fleur Cannon, for example, and they're both
resisted) and its speed is slightly flawed at base stat 109 (i.e. Mega Metagross and Latios outspeed).
I wish for the generation that none of the mascot legendaries are thrown to Ubers by Smogon right off the bat. I thought Lunala and Yveltal looked fairly bad on paper BST-wise, yet they both got banned to Ubers straight away.
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on December 31, 2016, 07:05:15 AMI hate Tapu Bulu honestly. He's a grass type that lives in a desert. His ability heals every pokemon on the screen. He's the second coolest-looking one but he sucks.
I've found that several of my Pokemon Showdown teams have been crying for a Grass/Fairy type, and sadly, he's the best one out there (even though he hampers revenge killing by healing everyone and weakens everyone's Earthquakes, including my own).
Dude Kartana is 100% trash
Quote from: Dekkadeci on December 31, 2016, 08:00:33 PMI wish for the generation that none of the mascot legendaries are thrown to Ubers by Smogon right off the bat. I thought Lunala and Yveltal looked fairly bad on paper BST-wise, yet they both got banned to Ubers straight away.
Lunala has a decent niche in Ubers, even if there are plenty of things around that laugh at Shadow Shield via the existence of its dual 4x weaknesses. That being said, it would probably be ridiculously bulky in OU, and Moongeist Beam a tad too powerful (give it a Choice Scarf and imagine a better Gengar).
So apparently all the Trial Captains are age 11-19.
Adults don't exist.
Is that why molayne isn't a captain any more
Have Sun/moon been out long enough for us to consider an NSM tournament?
I'm totally in, though I kind of want to make legendary Pokémon not a thing that are allowed. But yeah I'd participate either way.
I'd participate as well, agreeing on Slow's rules. No legendaries, though I think UBs should be okay?
I was thinking we could decide on a metagame like maybe monotype or something cause that would be pretty cool
Also 100% for banning legendaries, they're usually just better options than existing pokemon
The format should be pre-pokebank though, so that the people who were competitive before Sun/Moon don't have an unfair advantage.
-Island scans should be allowed. They're not allowed for some official tournaments for some reason since they're not in the alola pokedex but eh
-I don't like ultra beasts that much but they seem pretty popular so maybe we can allow in certain quantities?
I was actually including the Ultra Beasts, but since people want to use them I don't mind. We could also use the rules of the Battle of Alola tournament that just happened, where legendary/mythical Pokémon and Ultra Beasts were allowed, but only one per team.
We'd also have to decide if we should use Link Battle rules (1-6 Pokémon allowed) or the general Battle Spot rules (1-3 Pokémon allowed).
Edit: I'm also all for the pre-Poké Bank update thing. I have old competitive Pokémon but I'm fine just using ones caught in Sun and Moon.
My current team completely was built in Moon anyway, so good for me. I'm fine with any rules tbh, 1-6 or 1-3.
Battle of Alola rules don't allow island scan pokemon if I'm interpreting them correctly
which means I don't get to use my Azumarill
I also like Link Battle rules with 6 slots because there's more space for team synergy and it promotes people trying out cool gimmicks that might be more fun
I'm not talking straight Battle of Alola rules, because that tournament didn't allow held items. Also, it allowed any Pokémon as long as they were caught in a Sun or Moon game.
I'm all for pre-Pokébank teams. I actually wish they would make the Pokébank update come out later because I wanted to play in the pre-Pokébank metagame.
Personally, I prefer 1-6 over 1-3. I'm fine with normal 6v6 singles or with Noc's idea of a monotype metagame tournament.
As for UBs, I'm a little iffy, since they're everywhere on Showdown, but either way is acceptable for me.
yeah I think UB usage is the big thing we have to work out, since some people want to use them and some of us don't want to use them. Any ideas?
I'll go with whatever the rest of you decide, but I'd personally advocate for only one legendary/mythical Pokémon or Ultra Beast per team. Using any more than that is just kinda cheap, and this should satisfy the people who want to use one in their team.
I think I might have a problem with baton passes into beast boost
One Ultra Beast or Legendary per team sounds good to me or at the least, some sort of limit.
Also I really like that idea of monotype!
can someone change the vote in the thread to gauge interest?
I'd say we need at least eight people to do a serious tournament.
oh also I've been on the PGL looking at tournament results and I think we should ban the Tapu, or at least Tapu Lele and Tapu Koko. They seem pretty strong.
We could also do round robin tournaments and then cut to a finals or something
I like the idea of monotype but I guess there's a possibility everyone would want to choose the same type...
Nah I'm not into monotype and I don't think we need to ban specific Pokémon as long as we keep the "one per team" rule
alright. Is there like a specific formatting to use when determining battle rules? Due to in game constraints I think it's forced to be at level 50 at least, and then one legendary max per team, 6 slots available, no duplicate pokemon or items is all I can think of
All of that sounds good to me. I'm pretty sure normal link battles knock your Pokémon to level 50 even if they're below, but everyone should try to reach level 50 just in case.
Link battles have 3 options:
1 sets all pokemon to level 50 regardless, 1 sets all pokemon above 50 to 50, and 1 leaves pokemon at their original levels. Though I prefer 100 level pokemon that's not realistic for any of us lol
so don't worry about what level your pokemon are, though I would recommend at least EV training them. It's super easy in this game, you only need to KO like 8 pokemon in an SOS chain to max out a stat
so ummm i'm going to interrupt this conversation because a lapras just wandered into my pokepelago! :D apparently it's the hardest poke to catch too, whee~
uhhh I didn't think it was that hard to catch but good for you :)
that was kinda rude I mean I didn't realize it was a rare pokemon so that's great
Quote from: Dekkadeci on December 31, 2016, 08:00:33 PMI thought Lunala and Yveltal looked fairly bad on paper BST-wise, yet they both got banned to Ubers straight away.
Don't be deceived just because they don't have 150+ in a base stat; they're plenty obnoxious. You don't even need to test Lunala, you can just look at how strong Hoopa-Unbound is to get an idea of how strong Lunala is (Lunala's basically a better Hoopa-Unbound).
nerdy calculations and explanation here
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hoopa-Unbound Dark Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow: 301-355 (93.7 - 110.5%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lunala Moongeist Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow: 321-378 (100 - 117.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Lunala tears apart pretty much everything with near unresisted coverage (just like Hoopa, which is why it was banned before), only she has more Speed and much better defenses. Dark-type is better than Ghost, granted, but it doesn't make up for those other factors. You just spam Moongeist Beam like you spam Dark Pulse with Hoopa for easy KOs, only it's harder to KO Lunala back.
Some other random calculations against bulky stuff.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lunala Psyshock vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 297-351 (46.2 - 54.6%) -- 59% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lunala Thunderbolt vs. 244 HP / 252+ SpD Mandibuzz: 250-296 (59.2 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lunala Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Celesteela: 240-284 (60.3 - 71.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lunala Moongeist Beam vs. 252 HP / 168+ SpD Ferrothorn: 195-229 (55.3 - 65%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
As for Yveltal, Yveltal's kind of a better Lunala (similar but slightly better stats and more diverse moves available).
Quote from: dajwxp on January 02, 2017, 07:52:02 PMso ummm i'm going to interrupt this conversation because a lapras just wandered into my pokepelago! :D apparently it's the hardest poke to catch too, whee~
Haha, lucky! Wish I had that kinda luck, I think I wasted maybe an hour catching a Beldum. :P One attempt I had lasted so long that a Beldum Struggled until it fainted (yeah, the battle lasted so long it burned out all its PP, and that's even with me putting it to Sleep...).
Anyways, I'd be down to play in a tournament! Just to make sure though, are you guys including the "big" legends like the Cosmog line and Zygarde for the "one per team" rule? I guess I should also ask if Necrozma and Silvally are included, just in case. And we're allowed to use the QR Pokemon/Greninja too, right?
Is this tournament on showdown or in the game? I probably wouldn't join the latter because my in game team is crap
In game. Sorry
you have time to get a team! My team still isn't finished yet
Also after thinking about the one legendary thing I think we should also include mega evolutions in the same counter so you can have a mega OR a legendary OR an Ultra Beast
I mean I'm not opposed to that rule but I don't really think Megas are in the same category
Again though the rule wouldn't affect my team at all so if you guys decide that's the way we should go it's totally fine
https://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/information/173540c6-ac2a-4d47-b5db-b9a2a197607e
thoughts?
Seriously though, FA, don't let that stop you. We don't have enough players for a good sized tournament yet anyway so you might as well. We'd wait for you
Question, since I haven't been keeping up with competitive (though I'm not sure if this is a competitive question): are Ultra Beasts considered Legendaries? Or are they in their own category?
I consider them legendaries
Also, filtering the GTS by only allowing non-legendary/mythical Pokémon also eliminates them, so yes
I mean I still haven't caught lunala yet or beat the elite four.
Doesn't matter, we can wait.
In other news I caught HA dratini so hmu if you want me to hyu
or just host multiple ones
well we have 4 people in right now and we're aiming for 8. You could probably get done before then (and some of us have 4 IV Dittos you could borrow to speed the process along)
Oh, guess I never said that I'd like to join the tournament. So, uh...I'd like to join the tournament.
nah I'll just join with my crap team
That's 6!
EV training is pretty easy though I'd recommend getting that done if anything
I'm in, too!
I'd also like to join, but I also haven't beaten Sun yet (haven't even touched it for weeks, but I'll get back to it soon, I swear).
Also, what about the Tapus? They're in a similar vein in the UBs since they also have a 570 BST.
The tapu are legendaries are they not?
The Tapu are considered legendary
MSF makes 7! If one more person expresses interest I guess I'll make an official thread for it
Oh ok
I caught a shiny Elekid!
can you remove EVs already on a pokemon
Pomeg/Kelpsy/Grepa/Hondew/Qualot/Tamato Berries?
Quote from: Latios212 on January 05, 2017, 08:51:27 PMPomeg/Kelpsy/Grepa/Hondew/Qualot/Tamato Berries?
It would help if they didn't spawn randomly at a single tree in the game (although once you do have one Poké Pelago makes growing them
so easy). It would also help if Game Freak had just kept something like the Reset Bag because goddammit that was so smart.
I have hundreds of all of them, lemme know which ones you need
Oh obviously I'm in too
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 04, 2017, 08:16:26 AMI think we should also include mega evolutions in the same counter so you can have a mega OR a legendary OR an Ultra Beast
Tempted to support this because I also haven't beaten the game yet and don't feel like grinding BP for the Mega Stones. >_>
That works out for me... I don't mind that idea, actually. I already have my mega anyway.
I finally started playing Pokemon Sun (late Christmas present), and right now, I'm stuck trying to soft reset for a female Rowlet (or just an Adamant one, whichever comes first), wondering why there need to be so many unskippable cutscenes in what should only take like two minutes a go.
because new pokemon games
"We want you to care about these people for no reason, so we'll shove them down your throat"
salt
cry moar
So there's an IV checker in this game. A frikkin IV checker that doesn't require you to shoot in the dark to check your stats.
HALLELUJAHHHHH
Will you be joining the tournament? :^)
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 11, 2017, 10:28:58 PMWill you be joining the tournament? :^)
eyyy just because i know the numbers doesnt mean i'm up for a tourney haha my team still sucks
Though being in a military camp kinda ruins a lot, so I probably can't commit to a comp schedule, weellllp
Is it okay for my starter to be Level 12 before I've reached Kukui's lab? I kinda like completely curbstomped Hau.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 12, 2017, 03:33:17 PMIs it okay for my starter to be Level 12 before I've reached Kukui's lab? I kinda like completely curbstomped Hau.
...IIRC, I think mine was 7.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 12, 2017, 03:33:17 PMIs it okay for my starter to be Level 12 before I've reached Kukui's lab? I kinda like completely curbstomped Hau.
were you ev training ._.
Quote from: dajwxp on January 12, 2017, 01:52:24 PMeyyy just because i know the numbers doesnt mean i'm up for a tourney haha my team still sucks
Though being in a military camp kinda ruins a lot, so I probably can't commit to a comp schedule, weellllp
isn't the military fairly regular? I'm sure you could find some time for a single match every week or so
Quote from: dajwxp on January 12, 2017, 05:13:18 PMwere you ev training ._.
No, not at all. Route 1 was just pretty long, and I wanted to catch a few Pokemon, sooo...
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 12, 2017, 06:26:49 PMisn't the military fairly regular? I'm sure you could find some time for a single match every week or so
sigh fiiiine dang them obligations :p
I completed the Alola Dex last night! eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Now I have to decide what shiny I want to hunt for.
Updated Thoughts
- I OHKO'd Totem Wishiwashi with a Razor Leaf Crit. Didn't even have time to call for help.
- Kiawe's trial was AMAZING. They completely avoided the tedium that comes from puzzles like that while still having it be fairly difficult (Totem Salazzle was moderately difficult because I insisted on not using my massively overleveled started to simply OHKO it until the very end, i.e. when my Pikachu and Wingull both got mercilessly devoured because of their awful Sp. Def).
- My Zubat evolved just in time to be the MVP of Mallow's trial (though I probably could've just used my starter, again, having a STAB Acrobatics was really fun). Pretty much went straight to Crobat because of the time I spent getting it to be friendly to me. <3
- On the other hand, my Pichu somehow took a ridiculously long time to evolve (IIRC, just before Kiawe's trial), but now it's a Raichu so that doesn't really matter. :<
- Evolved my starter into a Decidueye right before I fought Olivia. So now, all my Pokemon are evolved... and then I found the Eviolite.
- I'm pretty sure the reason all my Pokemon are currently overleveled, despite not using the Exp. Share, is because I'm only using four right now instead of six? Because there's like no way I should have fully evolved my started at this point, yet I did already.
- Decided to use a Pelipper for my final team instead of Ash-Greninja because I got lucky with a Hydration Wingull. Don't know how much it's gonna hurt not having a strong Dark STAB on my team.
- Taking pictures is addictive, as is Festival Plaza. Between two of the Lottery shops (two starts each), I've already gotten three Bottle Caps. HYPE.
- I was oddly thrilled when the Eevee egg hatched, as I somehow had no idea what it would be. In hindsight, I should have anticipated that.
- Nebby is ADORABLE and Lillie trying to pretend to be me by trying to get Nebby to use Splash was also great.
Lol my Pichu somehow evolved at Level 13
The GTS is totally weirding me out. There are incredibly strange trends in wanted Pokémon. I'm looking for a Pheromosa with a slightly better nature, right? So I'm trying to trade out the spare one I have for another one. Days go by, and no one trades. I try for a Buzzwole, same situation. I start looking into the listings for Pheromosas, and here's the kicker: overwhelmingly, the most wanted Pokémon for a Pheromosa is SOLGALEO. Like, wtf? How is that even a fair trade? So I start looking into Buzzwoles instead. Overwhelmingly, the most wanted Pokémon for a Buzzwole is Celesteela. Slightly more sensical, but still odd. I realize that there are four Kartanas and four Pheromosas, so I look into Kartanas. Overwhelmingly, the most wanted Pokémon for a Kartana is LUNALA. It's here that I start to lose it. I look into Solgaleos. THERE ARE LIKE ZERO REQUESTS FOR A LUNALA. Everyone wants 91 or above...anything, really, but there's an incredibly odd amount of Rhyperiors in the mix. Lunalas? Same situation. No Solgaleos, 91 or above anything. At my wit's end, I look at Pheromosas again, this time filtering out Legendaries. Requests for 91 and aboves are everywhere (except for a lot of requests for Lv. 1-10 Dragonites, [facepalm]), and I expected that, so I train my eye to look for level listings as "Any." And here's the strangest and most mind-bogglingly inexplicable trend to the whole ordeal: virtually every, I'm talking 99% of the time, every listing for a wanted Pokémon of "Any" level, is Kingdra. KINGDRA. THIS IS MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN MULTIPLE COUNTRIES ASKING FOR THE SAME POKÉMON, ONE THAT ISN'T EVEN IN THE ALOLA DEX. THE ONLY POKÉMON LISTED THAT'S WANTED AT ANY LEVEL. IS KINGDRA. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AND I CAN'T FIND ANY ANSWERS AND I AM SO CONFUSED RIGHT NOW AND ALL I WANT IS A PHEROMOSA WITH A BETTER NATURE THAN JOLLY AND WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE GTS AND WHY DOES NOBODY WANT PHEROMOSA. ALSO THAT PART, FORGOT TO MENTION THAT. NOBODY WANTS PHEROMOSA FOR ANYTHING.
I am so confuuuuuuuuused I want to punch something.
^I had the same issue. Ended up giving up my last Celesteela for Buzzwole.
Entering E4 with:
Primarina Lv. 50
Ribombee Lv. 52
Wigglytuff Lv. 50
Comfey Lv. 50
Alolan Ninetales Lv. 52
Granbull Lv. 50
I grinded with the Exp. Share on for half the game and then afterwards turned the Exp. Share off. I thought the rest of the game wouldn't be too hard since I was pretty overleveled once I turned it in off, but the level curve caught up to me by Poni Island and now I'm pretty underleveled.
Throughout this whole run, I've played on Set mode and I've refused to use any items in battle except to catch Pokémon, and I'll stick with that until the very end. Let's see how hard the E4 is, now...
Hoo boy, you're gonna have a fun time. E4 + Champion is easily one of the most difficult in recent generations, especially if you're not gonna use any items.
Well, I can still heal up outside of battle, so it's not that bad.
Anyways, I've beaten the first three on the first try, but the fourth one (rightmost room) is giving me a bit of trouble; I've already lost once.
EDIT: Won easily on the second try because of Pokémon Refresh hax (and a flinch hax, too). Onto the final battle!
Final Team:
Trucy Wright (Primarina) Lv. 51
Ribbon (shiny Ribombee) Lv. 52
Guildmaster (Wigglytuff) Lv. 51
Flora (Comfey) Lv. 52
Selkie (Alolan Ninetales) Lv. 54
Tooth Fairy (Granbull) Lv. 51
EDIT: Holy what is this impossible Champion battle
??? I had no issue at all but everyone is complaining
I also didn't use any items in battle, used a horribly imbalanced team, and didn't have the Exp. Share on for any point of the whole game so idk
yall are insane this is the easiest elite 4
except for olivia she's pretty hard :^)
YES I DID IT
I BEAT THE CHAMPION
IT ONLY TOOK LIKE 30+ TRIES AND A BUNCH OF REFRESH HAX BUT I STILL DID IT
(and I didn't even have to send out Ribombee)
Boy is a mono-Fairy team hard pressed for coverage against the Champion's team, especially when you've decided to use Wigglytuff and Comfey instead of, say, Clefable, Klefki, or Mimikyu. Oof.
Champion's Team
Magnezone, Braviary, and Snorlax were nightmares, I tell you... Flash Cannon, Brave Bird, Heavy Slam... ouch.
IT'S ALIVE
GEN I POKEMON ARE GIVEN THEIR HIDDEN ABILITIES
BANK UPDATE BOYSSSSSS
REST IN PIECES 2017-2017 No Guard Fissure Machamp
the dream is dead :'(
-Non glitch pokemon obtained through glitches can be transferred.
-There are level-based flags in place on different Pokemon to prevent absurdly low-level pokemon.
-A Missingno that has turned into a Rhydon will be transferable regardless of level.
-Gengar (and presumably the other trade pokemon) doesn't have a level flag in place.
-Mewtwo has a level flag in place.
-Mew gets flagged but I'm currently not sure if there are ways around it.
-You can dupe rare candies to level up pokemon to a normal level and they won't get flagged.
-I don't have surf yet so I can't figure out if pokemon over level 100 will get flagged. My guess is that it would roll over at level 1 instead of 101, but it may just flag the pokemon instead.
-I haven't tested hybrid glitch pokemon. I'm assuming transporter will ignore them like it does missingno, but since they have actual pokedex numbers, they may be read as the pokemon they're hybrids of.
-I haven't tested balanced or imbalanced non-glitch hybrid pokemon yet, outside of missingno/rhydon. Pokemon yellow needed, which means testing requires me to get my second DS.
-I'd recommend mew glitching the legendary birds, mewtwo, and the starters, because they're easy to throw away on the gts.
updates: I got a level 7 slowbro through. Maybe due to SOS battles it's a legal level for slowbro? Requires more experimentation. Still have yet to send a level 100 mew, but it probably won't work.
Tbh I was expecting the battle of alola friendly to be, well, friendly, not ninetales/team tapu/garchomp. Garchomp especially is difficult to deal with since I have no way of knowing if it's scarfchomp until it's too late. My team is subpar too, and I can't change it thanks to the locks. I should be doing a lot better otherwise (I'm 16-14)
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 27, 2017, 01:43:43 AM-Mew gets flagged but I'm currently not sure if there are ways around it.
Probably not through glitching. What it checks for is the OT I think, because Japan and the UK had events for Mew, so I think it checks for the trainer id and such for those events.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 27, 2017, 09:06:58 PMupdates: I got a level 7 slowbro through. Maybe due to SOS battles it's a legal level for slowbro? Requires more experimentation.
I believe it is not legal. Slowbro can only be found in the wild at Level 15-18 through SOS in Kala'e Bay, according to Serebii and Bulbapedia.
well well well...
I wonder how they flag pokemon then
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/9d/a0/44/9da044f76ed79711326af1653d83418c.jpg)
sounds accurate to me
That would explain the shiny Spheal and Ralts I got within 3 wonder trades of each other.
I'm slowly gathering legendaries by throwing away mewtwos lol
I swear garchomp makes me wanna kill myself
^Agreed. I hate Garchomp.
I'm going to look back at all my battles- I saved videos for everyone, and I bet only a handful didn't have garchomp in their 6
I did my mandatory three battles and didn't run into Garchomp once. But there are major hacks this tournament. It's kinda stressing me out how many Pokémon are shiny and perfect IV.
My favorite of the three battles was when I swept an entire Trainer with my Togedemaru. I wish I could have heard him swearing on the other end.
I also saw a lot of hail teams. Aurora veil is busted in half...
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 29, 2017, 02:35:51 PMI also saw a lot of hail teams. Aurora veil is busted in half...
I did see one of those
I'm not sure if this game is ridiculously long, ridiculously slow, or if I'm just spending too much time grinding/doing Festival Plaza stuff that it just seems really drawn out, but I don't feel like I'm making much progress, strangely enough. I'm about to head to Po Town.
The straight story took me under 20 hours. It's probably you grinding/not using exp share
I'm surprised Garchomp was as common as it was, because I think it's pretty bad for the Battle Competition considering how common Cloyster, the Ultra Beasts (Celesteela and Pheromosa in particular giving it trouble), and the Tapus are (it's not even a good answer for Tapu Koko).
That being said, Cloyster was the real cancer of the competition. Like 90% of my battles were Cloyster leads.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 29, 2017, 01:30:45 PMBut there are major hacks this tournament. It's kinda stressing me out how many Pokémon are shiny and perfect IV.
I dunno why you think those are necessarily hacks. Shiny Pokemon are easier to get than ever thanks to the Shiny Charm and 'call for help' battles, and between breeding for IVs and Hyper Training it should be expected that most people who care enough will have perfect stats.
if I saw a cloyster I used lycanroc who can ko with rock slide+accelerock.
At least cloyster is predictable and can't run a billion sets like garchomp can. Celesteela, gyara, and alolan marowak was a specific 3 that I saw a lot and I hated myself for not trying to predict the switch, but I was afraid of dragon dances. Tapus are cancer and should be banned online because their base stats seem normal until you realize they get 2x stab thanks to their abilities. I regret not sticking a scarf on my gengar because he would've been amazing.
Instead I used junky pokemon like my arcanine that I used in the main game ugh... Overall it looks like my record was 24-21 which I guess is fine, but if there's another tournament I ain't gonna be friendly.
oh also mimiku. Sooo many focus sash mimiku.
Mimikyu* but yeah by the looks of things this competitive scene is way more annoying than fun
yeah I mean obviously there are gonna be the cheesy strats like mimik...yu... that dominate lower ladders but I'd assume at some point the tapus' raw power will be supplanted by synergistic teams in top ladders. Then lower ladders will probably emulate the higher ladders but either way battle spot will continue to be obnoxious. I'll stick to my 6v6es
On a side note about online play, I'm really glad they got the Parting Shot thing fixed, because now I can show off how good Silvally can really be.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 29, 2017, 10:15:11 PMyeah I mean obviously there are gonna be the cheesy strats like mimik...yu... that dominate lower ladders but I'd assume at some point the tapus' raw power will be supplanted by synergistic teams in top ladders. Then lower ladders will probably emulate the higher ladders but either way battle spot will continue to be obnoxious. I'll stick to my 6v6es
Battle Spot-style Singles is usually summed up as "nuke something with Z-move, have a Sash or Scarf sweeper as backup."
6v6 Singles is better, but if you're playing Showdown, then Smogon's bans are not that great (or rather, the unbans, so there's a bunch of stuff that's too strong that right now). In particular banning Aegislash was dumb for Smogon because not only is it not as devastating as a bunch of the Pokemon that they unbanned this generation, Aegislash would've helped tone down a lot of the stuff that's dominant. Both Smogon and actual cartridge play will suffer from the same OP stuff like Tapus, Landorus, Greninja, Pheromosa, etc., though.
GameFreak seems to have realized that they let things go too far out of hand for Singles after Gen 3, so they balance the game around Double Battles.
nah I think gen 4 had a healthy competitive environment (well minus garchomp), it was hidden abilities and mega stones and z crystals and terrains and weather changes that screwed it over
did you guys know z splash raises attack 3 stages
I think azumarill can learn splash
Azumarill also learns belly drum (z or otherwise.)
I don't mid garchomp too much, Mega Metagross is dumb af tho.
yeah but no health drop
I know it sucks lol surely theres a pokemon that can use this though
Mega Lopunny?
wait lol nvm
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 29, 2017, 11:19:12 PMyeah but no health drop
I know it sucks lol surely theres a pokemon that can use this though
I had a Mimikyu that used Z-Splash on me, which is a fairly solid strategy. But I paralyzed it the first turn and broke its shield, and I was able to KO it before it got a hit.
Swords dance + life orb is generally better though.
Yeah, Swords Dance + Life Orb = 2 x 1.3 = 2.6 boost
Z-Splash is 2.5 boost
I think Mimikyu's better as a supporter with like Trick Room and Will-O-Wisp anyways.
Tsareena doesn't know Swords Dance iirc, so maybe that. Or just go all out and use Solgaleo for the lulz.
something else I've thought about is ambipom holding king's rock with fake out, fling, and thief. I saw it in the battle tree and it actually seems brilliant.
A bulky gyara set running splash over ddance maybe?
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 30, 2017, 10:59:39 AMsomething else I've thought about is ambipom holding king's rock with fake out, fling, and thief. I saw it in the battle tree and it actually seems brilliant.
It's more trolly than brilliant, but if it can also learn Acrobatics then it's better than nothing. You're missing a STAB move aside from Fling, for one.
QuoteA bulky gyara set running splash over ddance maybe?
You lose the speed boost in this case, but if it's bulky then maybe that's not a big deal.
Disabling the battle animations is making things go so much faster in Sun. I seem to recall this being somewhat of a problem in X/Y, but for some reason I don't remember it in ORAS at all.
LET ME SPEND HALF AN HOUR ACTIVATING MY ZMOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE
The rankings for the alola friendly are up
I got something like 2780th place
EDIT: and 365th place in US which looks much better
Way better than I did. I got 15,660th place lol
So I had a LOT of breedjects, so I decided to trade 100 of them away on wondertrade!
I tracked data from all of my 100 wondertrades if anyone wants to see, just click the spoiler!
It's not going to be incredibly accurate, but hey I just needed something fun to do :P
Spoiler
Amount of Pokemon received: 100
Here's a graph of all the different Pokemon I received:
(https://www.meta-chart.com/share/pokemon-2)
Amount of Pokemon holding items: 4
Amount of shinies: 1
Average level of Pokemon received: 12
Graph of the amount of Pokemon received from each region:
(https://www.meta-chart.com/share/amount-of-pokemon-from-each-region)
Graph of the amount of Pokemon received from each gen:
(https://www.meta-chart.com/share/amount-of-pokemon-from-each-gen)
Graph of the amount of each Pokemon type (NOTE: All types determined by primary typing with the exception of Flying):
(https://www.meta-chart.com/share/pokemon-types-2)
Your images appear to be broken, which is a shame, because I really want to see this.
Oh darn, I thought that was just a preview glitch.
Right clicking one and then opening it in a new tab seems to work for me.
Now that I think about it, I thought it was an image link, but it seems to be an actual link.
why didn't you gts any of them
the reward is 4000 FC for the mission right now
I'm planning on breeding a bit more, so I'll trade some of the breedjects I get and other random Pokemon that I don't need for the global mission.
I remember someone (Noc? Or am I messing up members/forums?) saying that the Exeggutor Island cutscene was their least favorite, but honestly, it's my favorite so far, and pretty much the only cutscene not chock-full of "Character enters scene, makes some gesture that they've arrived, intermittently does some zany facial expressions, then finally starts talking." Sure, the whole area could have just been another part of the main Poni Island area, but that scene in general really makes you care about more the characters.
Also Nanu in general is great, and in a similar fashion, Mina was amazing in her one scene. :P I stopped right after the final trial (Alolan Ninetales lol), but I'm probably going to take time to get a Scyther/Scizor before I finish up (my Raichu is sad trash, unfortunately). Finally, the Zygarde Cells are driving me nuts. I've been collecting a steady stream of them, but without using a guide, I feel like this is going to go on forever. Eep.
That cutscene just lasted longer than any other part of the game except for the wishiwashi, lurantis, and mimikyu battles.
To make the cell collection worse, some of them only appear at night or day, so you'll have to go back at random locations 12 hours later (the cores, however, are all located inside the houses of relevant characters, so thank goodness for that)
I caught Lunala in a Moon Ball
What a waste
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 07, 2017, 11:31:33 PMThat cutscene just lasted longer than any other part of the game except for the wishiwashi, lurantis, and mimikyu battles.
Really? In terms of cutscenes, even, it's nowhere near the longest, or most boring to sit through, for that matter. Unless you're referring to the entire scene that takes place on Exeggutor Island (from the time you arrive to the time you leave), in which case, it's still probably not the longest. :P To be honest, though, I really think that Exeggutor you fight should've been a Totem Pokemon... after all, it was mentioned that it used to be a trial site!
Quote from: braixen1264 on February 08, 2017, 10:01:10 AMI caught Lunala in a Moon Ball
I really wanted to catch a Beldum in a Heavy Ball until I found out you only get ONE. That's seriously cheap. WHY EVEN INCLUDE THEM. And, yeah, I'm not doing that because it would take ages to get the right nature.
Double post because I beat the game.
I made a pretty bad mistake toward the end of the game, resulting partly from my own laziness. Right before I went to fight Lusamine, I ditched my Raichu in exchange for a Beldum, and I didn't really go out of my way to train it before the Elite Four. So, instead of having a shoddy Raichu, I had a useless Metang. I almost lost on Kukui because I was careless with my team (and was NOT prepared for his Flare Blitz-spamming Incineroar), and the final matchup, Gem vs. Snorlax, ended up being super close (because of Pokemon Refresh stuff, it missed a Crunch that probably would have KO'd me).
Other than that, though, the Elite Four was pretty easy, yet still enjoyable. Capturing Solgaleo also had a lot of funny moments especially because I was determined to get a good nature (settled for Jolly in the end), including a few times of flinch haxing Solgaleo with Bite until I could capture it, getting Pokemon Refresh hax and avoiding all its attacks (and some combinations of the two previous options), actually PP stalling (and fainting) Solgaleo because for some reason it was determined to not get caught, and one time, throwing a Pokeball right off the bat and GETTING A CRITICAL CAPTURE.
The whole ending scene was pretty good, if a bit lengthy, and somewhat made up for other issues I had with the game. In the end, it made it feel like everything was worth it.
Final Team:
-Gem the Decidueye ♀ Level 64
-Parker the Crobat ♂ Level 63
-Murph the Pelipper ♀ Level 58
-Vuma the Ninetales ♀ Level 58
-Paco the Passimian ♂ Level 56
-Armos the Metang - Level 42
Team Write-Ups, From Best to Worst:
Number 1
Parker the Crobat ♂
Final Level: 63
Name Origin: One of the RAs of a nearby dorm is named Parker. He's a cool guy.
Duuuuuude, Crobat with Acrobatics is boss. From Mallow's trial onward, Parker was a beast, and further justifies my love of Crobat. Later on in the game, he was not only the top pick against Guzma (pretty much 1-shotting all his Pokemon), but also singlehandedly took out Lusamine the first time, readily handled Clefable, Lilligant and Mismagius the second time, completely swept Hala in the Elite Four, and finished the battle with Kahili. Definitely the MVP of my team.
Number 2
Gem the Decidueye ♀
Final Level: 64
Name Origin: There's a Druid character from Heroes of Might and Magic named Gem. She's associated with an archer named Gelu.
My trusty, hard-hitting, perpetual Z-Crystal holder, always-overleveled starter. Ah, good times. It's hard to think of a situation Gem didn't handle. Well, maybe Kiawe's trial. And stuff Parker did. And stuff I allowed Murph, Paco, or Vuma to take care of instead. :P To be fair, even overleveled, a non-competitive Decidueye begins to show its weaknesses late into the game: Against multiple strong opponents in a row, its bulk just isn't good enough, especially with Synthesis's low PP. Though she got past Olivia in the Elite Four unfazed, she had to be revived against Acerola (even though Vuma ended up finishing up instead) and Kukui, and used up two Leppa Berries before Kukui (PP was a mild issue as well, I might add). Also handled Lusamine's Milotic well, and completely (and laughably) walled Bewear. Co-MVP.
Number 3
Murph the Pelipper ♀
Final Level: 58
Name Origin: Like Agriculture the Aerodactyl in Y, probably some in-joke from an earlier generation.
She happened by chance. But it was legendary. Occupying the slot that was going to be held by Ash-Greninja, I instead chose to use Murph when I found out her ability as a Wingull was HYDRATION. Boy, was that lucky. I held back using her much early in the game because of a lack of bulk, and the quite-overleveled state of Gem and eventually Parker, but when I started really using Murph, I did not regret it. Drizzle-backed, Mystic Water-powered STAB Scalds are not something to laugh at. Her finest moments include carving through both Aether Paradise and Vast Poni Canyon, and being a great assist against Kahili (fought back against fellow physical tank Skarmory when I knew Parker couldn't do anything, then Mandibuzz) and Kukui, and also being a BRO with her fabulous U-Turning ability. Simply spectacular.
Number 4
Vuma the Ninetales ♀
Final Level: 58
Name Origin: Derived from "Zuma," as in the beach, and "Vulpix."
When I went into the game, I really wanted a Sandslash to finish up my team. Unfortunately, I picked the version that didn't have Sandshrew. Vulpix/Ninetales was actually a surprisingly good substitute, though! Even before she got Ice Beam (right before the Elite Four, which was pretty cool), having dual STABs of Dazzling Gleam and Aurora Beam was nice. Though she was only meant to be a temporary member of the team, she became Malibu's replacement.
Number 5
Paco the Passimian ♂
Final Level: 56
Name Origins: idk paco just sounds cool
Paco the Modest Passimian. Yeah, that was pretty bad luck. Other than that, though, Paco did his job, and did it fairly well. His two main issues were that he could've been a little faster, and that Brick Break wasn't always strong enough coming off such a low attack. That latter one got replaced by "Close Combat doesn't have enough PP" late into the game. Always my go-to-guy against Steel types, so that's a plus.
Number 6
Armos the Metang -
Final Level: 42
Name Origins: Armos from the Legend of Zelda.
Yes, I'm putting the "useless Metang" above the "shoddy Raichu," because I know Metagross is going to be a great Pokemon for my team. It's done its duty as being a Revive buffer so far, at least.
Number 7
Malibu the Raichu ♂
Final Level: 52
Name Origins: Malibu, as in the place in California.
Took forever to evolve from a Pichu, was pretty useless as a Pikachu, and still pretty useless as a Raichu. An ok Volt Switch user, but all in all, useless enough to be the only member to get KICKED OFF of my team. Malibu the Raichu, you are sad trash, and that's a fact.
Well, now what? Battle Tree? Ultra Beasts? Catch the Tapus? The world may never know.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 11, 2017, 03:51:48 PMBattle Tree? Ultra Beasts? Catch the Tapus? The world may never know.
I've already done the ultra beasts and tapus, but I have yet to fight Guzma or done the e4 again in order to defend the league title. I've heard you get some interesting opponents there.
Oh yeah, maybe I'll do that after I find the last few Zygarde cells... ugh....
I started the Ultra Beast missions, but I'm more hyped for the fact that I got a three-star Rare Kitchen after being stuck with a one-star one for so long.
three stars? that's cute.
:P
IT'S AN ACCOMPLISHMENT, OK NOC!?!? I just have really bad luck, apparently.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 16, 2017, 04:04:02 PMIT'S AN ACCOMPLISHMENT, OK NOC!?!? I just have really bad luck, apparently.
There is a way to soft reset for the booths in your plaza, or alternatively you can go to the subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFestivalPlaza/) to trade for more specific ones.
-pokemon above level 100 are automatically set to level 100. As a result, I have been mass producing jolly level 100 aerodactyls. Lemme know if you're interested.
-mewtwo has to be leveled down to 100 for some reason.
-easy IV dittos lol
-STILL haven't done anything with hybrid pokemon, I'm lazy.
-Ditto has a flag in place that's at least above level 7.
-should I spend dozens of hours finding the exact circumstances to make pokemon pass through transporter?
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYX3HzDC.png&hash=95d3c4e05777ed55030a12a314c054ddc8734f4a)
Pretty random, but today I learned that the Ultra Beasts' base stats and levels at which they learn new moves are all prime numbers (same goes for the box legendaries and Necrozma, who also have ties to Ultra Space). That's some really cool attention to detail and I just thought it was neat.
See you think that's cool attention to detail but I just think why
Because they're crazy alien monsters from another dimension? Thought the "why" would be pretty obvious...
http://i.imgur.com/myS7qS7.gifv
help me i am dying
So because I haven't touched Moon in so long, I only just got my Festival Plaza to rank 20. At rank 20, you get to name your Festival Plaza whatever you like, so I had only a few moments to come up with a name I would be proud of and wouldn't regret because I wanted to go do other things. So I named it.
Dudemanaheim.
I need serious help.
I named mine pixel plaza
In Xanadu did Sophocles
A stately pleasure-plaza decree
I named mine Xanadu you UNCULTURED SWINES.
all right, take it easy, citizen kane
Quote from: BlackDraegonSlayer on April 22, 2017, 09:32:10 PMIn Xanadu did Sophocles
A stately pleasure-plaza decree
I named mine Xanadu you UNCULTURED SWINES.
Do they both have the same story line?
Yes, they only have the different legendaries.
That, and Pokémon Moon's clock is set 12 hours ahead of whatever the real time is. i.e., it'll be night time if you play the game during the day.
It's not exactly twelve hours ahead, it's that it's reversed. Like, the calendar days have am hours before pm hours. Like the the day starts at 12:00pm and ends at 11:59 am
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 04, 2017, 03:15:52 PMIt's not exactly twelve hours ahead, it's that it's reversed. Like, the calendar days have am hours before pm hours. Like the the day starts at 12:00pm and ends at 11:59 am
ohhhhhh I never thought about it that way, that makes a lot of sense
Yeah, that's probably so if you catch a Pokémon it'll always be listed as the right calendar day.
how many charmander eggs must one hatch for even a single shiny
1 if you're good enough
Quote from: GlennGreene on July 05, 2018, 10:26:40 PMAnd how many if you are not good enough? Just joking!
Haha. Good sense of humor. Infinity if you're not good enough.
Quote from: Alcalas on May 16, 2443, 06:47:29 AMDo they both have the same story line?
Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon Wiki Strategy Guide features a full walkthrough for every Trial and Side Quest.
What is it with these bots responding to bots
How can you say that they are bots??
what is going on here
I'd imagine at least two of the above people are probably imposters bots. Usually if people only make one post and seem to posting an unusual link or advertising something, it's safe to say they're a bot.