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Title: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Zeta on January 18, 2016, 05:45:15 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Super Mario
Game: Super Mario Sunshine
Console: Nintendo GameCube
Title: Delfino Airstrip
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: E. Gadd Industries (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4357)


Replacement Information:

Links to Existing Sheet: MUS (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mus/307) | MIDI (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mid/307) | PDF (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/307)
Replacement Type: Challenge (new arranger)

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Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 18, 2016, 05:46:34 PM
One step further to bettering the Sunshine section!
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Sebastian on January 18, 2016, 06:06:08 PM
When Gadd and I were tightening this one up, we noticed that the tremolos didn't work on playback. Does anyone know why?
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: mikey on January 18, 2016, 06:10:25 PM
It's working for me.  Probably just your version of finale would have to be my guess
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 19, 2016, 04:11:11 PM
MakeMusic just needs to get its act together. XD
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: TheMarioPianist on January 19, 2016, 06:09:34 PM
Not a bad arrangement! Few things I would touch up, or at least look at:

Measure 1, beat 4: The right hand note should be a Db, not a regular D. Also, put a fermata on the left hand note; it's customary to have it on both.
Measures 10-13: That left hand part is awkwardly crossing over the right hand. I don't know what to do in terms of fixing it, but one possibility is raising the right hand up an octave. Let's see if someone else has a better way to make that less awkward.
Measures 14, 16, 18, and 20 (beat 3 in each): The second set of two eighth rests in each of these measures can be rewritten as a quarter rest since it falls on beat 3.
Measure 27: No dotted rests in 4/4. Split that dotted quarter rest into a quarter followed by an eighth.
Measures 28 and 29: Unless someone told you to do the tremolo that way, I think it would look a lot nicer to have one dotted half tremolo. I can send you the file with a cleaner tremolo and layer fixes that ensued. Oh, and I think I got the playback to work as well. No idea what the issue was :/.
Measure 30: That A natural with the accidental should actually be a B, I believe.

If you noticed, I picked on pretty small things here. That's because there weren't really any major flaws! Nice work! The biggest thing I would worry about is 10-13. That part would just be awkward to play as it is currently written.
 
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 20, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
Anyone else know how to go about fixing m10-13?
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Tobbeh99 on January 20, 2016, 06:06:08 PM
I don't think it's that bad. But I think everything in measures 10 and 13 should be play in RH, or the lower notes in LH the higher in RH. With some smart fingerings/hand choice I think it's Ok.

One other option is to make the LH one octave lower from the second half of measure 9 to measure 13 (goes up again on measure 14). That's maybe better.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: TheMarioPianist on January 20, 2016, 06:36:50 PM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on January 20, 2016, 06:06:08 PMI don't think it's that bad. But I think everything in measures 10 and 13 should be play in RH, or the lower notes in LH the higher in RH. With some smart fingerings/hand choice I think it's Ok.

One other option is to make the LH one octave lower from the second half of measure 9 to measure 13 (goes up again on measure 14). That's maybe better.
Personally, I was thinking RH one octave higher...then again, I haven't experimented with the left hand moving down at all. I was just thinking that as is, it would take some really challenging fingering to get it to work well. I could be missing something though.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Tobbeh99 on January 21, 2016, 05:25:52 AM
Here are my 2 solutions in an image. The first 2 measures is where I have lowered the LH one octave, and the other half is where I have moved around some notes to make it easier to play (high notes in the RH, low in the LH).

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1ZSgzRJ.jpg&hash=ff5c5d2b6a255ab41c2194f0bd3d65f485e9f335)
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 21, 2016, 07:43:21 AM
I think I'll take the second option. Sure, it'll be more challenging, but I will work with it. I'd rather do that than shift any notes up or down an octave.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Sebastian on January 21, 2016, 09:43:00 AM
I think the arrangement is fine the way it is (10-13); Granted, it is awkward to play. I would recommend moving the left hand down octave, not move the right hand up an octave.

About the tremolo in 28, I, unfortunately, don't know how to make that cleaner which is why it's the way it is. That file would be nice to have, TMP. I don't know how to do it :P
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 21, 2016, 01:06:37 PM
Everything has been updated!
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Tobbeh99 on January 21, 2016, 02:28:21 PM
Noticed a small error in measure 28-29: You have the note, on the last beat with a tie, in layer 1 and the note, in the next measure which it's tied to, in layer 2. This will result in the playback playing both notes, instead of playing it as a tie. You have to tie notes of the same layer else it won't work properly, so make all RH notes in measures 29-31 to layer 2, that will solve the issue.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 21, 2016, 05:21:19 PM
Fixed it
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 27, 2016, 08:45:49 AM
/me bumps the piece.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 30, 2016, 07:01:02 PM
Any other fixes needing to be made to the piece?
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 08, 2016, 02:31:34 PM
Bump
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 15, 2016, 01:10:04 PM
Bump
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 18, 2016, 08:30:31 AM
I don't see anything else wrong with the sheet. That might be just me, though. It looks a lot better than the one currently on site. Nice work!
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 19, 2016, 05:08:51 PM
Thank youuu! Anyone else see any errors?
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 26, 2016, 10:23:44 PM
Bump
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on March 07, 2016, 06:11:49 AM
Bump
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 07, 2016, 06:32:19 AM
In the RH of Measures 10 and 12, is there any way you could combine the quarter rest and the eighth rest? If there is, it would make said measures look less disorganized and complex. If that's not possible, then I really don't see anything wrong with the sheet concerning formatting. You've shown the third beat throughout the piece, which makes the rhythm notation correct.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on March 07, 2016, 06:48:42 AM
I've been told in the past not to condense rests like that, else I would.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on March 07, 2016, 07:41:18 PM
I'd flip the note beams in things like m.8 so that your layers are layered, for lack of a better word (second layer below the first one consistent with the half note), but it's not entirely necessary.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: TheMarioPianist on March 08, 2016, 06:53:51 PM
Hey, E Gadd and I talked about all the changes made in this (https://www.dropbox.com/s/700w9a62g4l8ccd/Super%20Mario%20Sunshine%20-%20Delfino%20Airstrip.mus?dl=1) file, so this is the most updated version. He should update the files in the morning.

Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on March 07, 2016, 07:41:18 PMI'd flip the note beams in things like m.8 so that your layers are layered, for lack of a better word (second layer below the first one consistent with the half note), but it's not entirely necessary.

PDS, E Gadd and I were slightly perplexed here, could you elaborate on what you're referring to? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on March 08, 2016, 10:01:43 PM
I looked at it again, and it's really unnecessary. FWIW I think it's ready to go.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on March 09, 2016, 06:06:06 AM
Righty right! I will update everything when I leave school (incredibly busy morning, alarm didn't go off)!

EDIT: The OP has been updated! Thank you, both TMP and PDS!
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on March 14, 2016, 06:19:54 PM
Soooo... Is it ready to be accepted?
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 14, 2016, 09:41:46 PM
It's pretty close:

-I would redistribute the measures-per-system to be 5-4-4-4-4-4-4-4 for consistency's sake.
-Measures 18 and 20, LH: I'd add a courtesy natural to the F at the end of the bars, to differentiate from the F# in the RH.
-Add a double bar line at 26 (key change).
-If you can, please make the "tremolo optional" text an expression rather than a text box. An expression is linked to the exact measure and will move with it, while a text box would remain stationary,if needed to move.
-Octave Bb's in measure 30 RH should be A#'s.

Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on March 19, 2016, 11:46:39 AM
Everything has been updated! Sorry about the wait, my teachers have been assigning a TON of homework as of recent.
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 19, 2016, 09:16:28 PM
Cool, good work!
Title: Re: [GCN] Super Mario Sunshine - "Delfino Airstrip" (Replacement) by E. Gadd Industries
Post by: Zeta on March 19, 2016, 09:16:37 PM
This submission has been accepted by Olimar12345 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot