Hi everyone. This is a modified version and I have a confession to make. CosmicProp made me mad by saying girls can't do this stuff so I became prideful and chose a hard Galaxy song. It was a huge mistake. NinSheetMusic is not a site where you post music because you want to be praised or congratulated. It is placed because you want to help others to play songs on the piano. I would like to apologize greatly for becoming prideful and dragging people to critique my work. I have decided to put Dusty Dune on temporary hiatus until I grow more advanced. I am going to start on something easy so I've taken down Dusty Dune. Again, I apologize for wasting your time and I hope you guys can forgive me. Here is Flip Swap Galaxy and I hope you can tell me how I did. Once again, sorry and thank you all. Love you guys!
Flip-Swap Galaxy, SMG 2
1) Original Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DViWavCNEs
1) Mus:https://www.dropbox.com/s/j4twxmg0ayofz63/Flip%20Swap.mus?dl=0
1) Midi:https://www.dropbox.com/s/54qmer9j8gv1iy1/Flip%20Swap.mid?dl=0
A Tense Moment, SMG 1
2) Original Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTzjEZmzKPI
2) Mus: https://www.dropbox.com/s/trpbxehrfg8dpmv/A%20Tense%20Moment.mus?dl=0
2) Midi: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lex3hx5heopnus/Super%20Mario%20Galaxy%20-%20A%20Tense%20Moment.mid?dl=0
*IN PROGRESS*
A Wish, SMG 1
3) Original Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc40v7-YouM
It's a start. Good that you have; 'tis the only way to get better, after all! For now, I'll focus purely on arranging issues, and ignore formatting (though you should have a look at that here (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=481.0))
The song sounds like it's in F# something, so I'd put it in F# minor for the sake of the key signature. It's probably in a mode of some kind, I'm not a theory guru, but it would help with all those accidentals.
Speaking of accidentals, I'd avoid doing things like going up on the staff for the sake of courtesy accidentals (like in measure 14). In that measure, you go E# to F flat, which looks like you're going up. In reality it's the other way around; you could just put F natural to E (f natural since there'll be 3 sharps in the key signature)
You're missing the bass line in most all of the measures with the melody, so you'll need to add that in.
One trick is to, if you're using earbuds as opposed to a headset, take one out (or just take off one side of your headphones) to listen to the voice better, if it's a stereo recording.
In measure 4, the bass line comes in a little to early, I think.
In measure 2, you could clean up all those 32nd rests and replace them with an easier rest value (just easier on the eyes).
If you do the things there (especially adding the LH bass line), you're on your way to a much improved sheet (though by no means am I an expert- I'm sure the other, more experienced arrangers will also give great advice).
Also, I know you had a bad experience on your introductory thread, but you need not worry about flames :) The majority of the users here are friendly, helpful people, so don't worry about it!
You can write "Arranged by mayastarr041" in the composer box, maybe, but I usually (when I used notepad) would just make another text box and put it below.
No, not F# minor.
Key signature is A minor with a modulation to D minor at measure 22.
Both are harmonic minor scales and should be notated as such, so:
-A minor: A, B, C, D, E, F, G#, A, nothing in key signature.
-D minor: D, E, F, G, A, Bb, C#, D, Bb in key signature.
The only accidentals in this should be G# in the A minor section and C# in the D minor section, everything else is included in the key signature (any other accidentals you have, use the enharmonic that doesn't require an accidental.)
That's why I was thinking two or three sharps, but yeah, you're right. I just listened closer and he's absolutely right.
Thank you guys! Greatly appreciated.
Welcome to the arranging team!
First of all, I would recommend taking a look at this: http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=481.0
The guidelines for what sheets should look like. So, you don't have to fill this in everytime you make a new arrangement, I would use a template and then edit the title, game name, etc.
You could use one of my arrangements on my page for a template if you like.
There's a template for download on the link that we gave, MLF.
(I say we because I gave it first ::))
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on July 10, 2015, 11:34:35 AM(I say we because I gave it first ::))
Whoops sorry. I didn't see you posted that.
It's all good, lol, just giving you a hard time~
Quote from: FireArrow on July 09, 2015, 11:46:24 PMNo, not F# minor.
Key signature is A minor with a modulation to D minor at measure 22.
Both are harmonic minor scales and should be notated as such, so:
-A minor: A, B, C, D, E, F, G#, A, nothing in key signature.
-D minor: D, E, F, G, A, Bb, C#, D, Bb in key signature.
The only accidentals in this should be G# in the A minor section and C# in the D minor section, everything else is included in the key signature (any other accidentals you have, use the enharmonic that doesn't require an accidental.)
Sorry, I don't know what you mean. Can you clarify for me more please?
The piece is in A minor until measure 22 where it switches to D minor. The typical key signature for A minor is no sharps, no flats (same as C major), and the typical key signature for D minor is one flat. That being said, G#'s and C#'s are common in A and D minor, respectively. If you use these key signatures, then the only accidentals you'll need to worry about are the G#'s and C#'s. Then you won't have to have bits like the G#-E#-Fb that you have in for instance m. 6.
That helps! Thanks! Also, I encountered 2 problems while doing it to a A minor. First, the notes get shifted either upwards or downwards, making it all the more confusing and I don't know how to change it to a D minor on measure 22. Does Finale Notepad allow it?
Quote from: mayastarr041 on July 10, 2015, 12:54:28 PMThat helps! Thanks! Also, I encountered 2 problems while doing it to a A minor. First, the notes get shifted either upwards or downwards, making it all the more confusing and I don't know how to change it to a D minor on measure 22. Does Finale Notepad allow it?
Notepad doesn't allow key changes. You can go to this thread (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=685.0) to ask for a new score with the specified key changes.
Notepad does allow key changes. It just doesn't allow you to keep the notes the same. It's a pain, but it's still doable.
Quote from: Maelstrom on July 10, 2015, 01:05:34 PMNotepad does allow key changes. It just doesn't allow you to keep the notes the same. It's a pain, but it's still doable.
What do you mean? I'm confused..
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on July 10, 2015, 01:21:17 PMWhat do you mean? I'm confused..
You can change the key, but, unlike finale, there is not an option to keeps the notes the same. So all the notes will move up or down when you change the key.
Note that you cannot change the time sig, no matter what you do in notepad
Hence why I use Musescore. :p
But, I can do a Musescore rewrite if you want me to that keeps all the music the same but incorporates the key signature changes, if you don't want to bother with Notepad's dumbness!
Quote from: Altissimo on July 10, 2015, 02:22:01 PMHence why I use Musescore. :p
But, I can do a Musescore rewrite if you want me to that keeps all the music the same but incorporates the key signature changes, if you don't want to bother with Notepad's dumbness!
Sorry for being so clueless, but are you talking to me, maelstrom, or pianist?
Talking to you. :p
Oh, well then that'd be perfect! I'd love it, thank you very much! ;D
MUS (https://www.dropbox.com/s/f7sh73z9t2mq5im/Dusty%20Dune%20Galaxy.mus?dl=0) / PDF (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ilbe8qqrle1jh5z/Dusty%20Dune%20Galaxy.pdf?dl=0)
Here you go - Dusty Dune with the key signatures implemented. :p
That being said, I'd suggest you check out your rhythms, as well as the octaves your notes are in. It's your arrangement, which is why I don't want to go through and fix all that for you, but your rhythms do seem a little inconsistent from time to time among each other, not to mention that the original is really rubato and you're probably going to want to find creative ways to notate the "timeless" feel of the original. The octaves in some places don't seem correct to my ears, though that's just on a first listen.
You did pick a tough one for your first arrangement, though - good luck! :p
I feel honored. Thank you.
I posted a new song on the first page. If you want, you can check it out! Thanks guys! :D
Flip-Swap is another hard one, though! (imo) Here are some things I noticed:
Formatting things:
-Don't forget to fill in the copyright info and the year at the bottom!
-The site url should be switched to the new one: http://www.NinSheetMusic.org/ (exactly, with the caps).
-It looks like you have too many measures; you can delete the empty measures by selecting both staves and pressing the delete key.
Musical things:
-Don't forget to include a tempo marking to indicate how fast or slow the piece should be played! This goes above measure 1!
-You could add dynamic markings to change the volume throughout the arrangement! If anything, have at least a single dynamic marking at the beginning so that we know how to play the piece!
-In my opinion, the first measure should be all quarter notes, with the fifth and highest note happening on beat one of the second measure.
-The sixteenth notes in the left hand throughout the arrangement might resemble the original more closely if you have the even-numbered notes one octave higher (having them switch between the two octaves).
Overall, it was a GREAT step in the right direction for a beginner! Definitely keep at it, you're more than capable of doing this with more practice!
Thanks Oli, it means so much. :)
Ok! I fixed up "A Tense Moment" for you!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/96y5jfzrb0yzdrs/Super%20Mario%20Galaxy%20-%20A%20Tense%20Moment.mus?dl=0
What I did:
-I changed it to 80 BPM instead of 40 BPM.
-I added way more notes in to make it sound fuller.
-I changed the dynamics on the part where the trumpets are really loud to make it more consistent.
-Fixed some incorrect formatting.
-Etc.
Tell me what you think.
I recommend you submit this one! :)
Mario.....I swear, I love you like heck right now. ;D ;) :)
No problem! Do you need a midi and pdf too so you can submit it?
That'd be nice. I just figured how to do the MIDI, so can you help me with the PDF? Thank you. ;D
Np.....I'll get them when I'm done mowing.
Ok guys, I partially completed the next song and yes, I will add the bass in later. Here it is! How was it?
MUS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kwd90gkhru1ofka/A-wa-wa-wa%21.mus?dl=0
Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Suf5E_FRlY&index=5&list=PL6akIKaXBeU2TVZUSrfyk3HQU3lxOt-Sw
This song is actually already done by Fingerz
Quote from: mayastarr041 on July 14, 2015, 01:24:59 PMThat'd be nice. I just figured how to do the MIDI, so can you help me with the PDF? Thank you. ;D
In order to possess the power to create your own PDFs, you'll need a 3rd party program such as CutePDF (http://www.cutepdf.com/) or PDFCreator (http://www.pdfforge.org/pdfcreator). I've used both but currently I'm using the latter.
Quote from: mariolegofan on July 20, 2015, 07:58:44 PMThis song is actually already done by Fingerz
There's no problem with that but it might be a bit of a friendly contest if you both try to submit them :P
Quote from: JDMEK5 on July 20, 2015, 08:08:47 PMThere's no problem with that but it might be a bit of a friendly contest if you both try to submit them :P
Good point! I'll give you some feedback tomorrow, Maya. I need to get some sleep.
Don't bother. I hate competition. I'm going to take down that song soon and go for a new one. Night!
Good night! I'll be looking forward to your next song :)
If you don't wanna compete then don't submit it to the sight, but that doesn't mean you should take it down! Someone browsing through the forums might like yours more, whether or not it's the one on site.
Quote from: mayastarr041 on July 20, 2015, 08:22:26 PMDon't bother. I hate competition. I'm going to take down that song soon and go for a new one. Night!
Like FireArrow said, you don't have to take it down if you want to avoid competition! That's what the Personal Arrangement Threads are for! All of your arrangements; not just the ones you want to submit. Well, you don't have to have all of them, but that's what a lot of us do. But don't let that sway you; do whatever you feel is best! :)
(PS: I use CutePDF for my PDFs. Its the other one JDMEK5 recommended. I've never had any issues, but I'm sure either one is fine.)
Quote from: cqk328 on July 20, 2015, 09:28:12 PM(PS: I use CutePDF for my PDFs. Its the other one JDMEK5 recommended. I've never had any issues, but I'm sure either one is fine.)
I never had issues with CutePDF it's just that once I had to get my laptop wiped so I had to redownload everything so I figured I'd give the other big program a shot and see and that's worked well for me too. I say they both will do just fine.
Quote from: FireArrow on July 20, 2015, 08:50:33 PMIf you don't wanna compete then don't submit it to the sight, but that doesn't mean you should take it down! Someone browsing through the forums might like yours more, whether or not it's the one on site.
Agreed ;)
Cute pdf might work! :D
You're on a good start with your arrangements. :)
I don't know what tools your using for arranging but I can highly recommend using http://www.audiostretch.com/audiostretchforflash/. This website let's you slow down songs how much you want to and it's all free!
Maybe not the best feedback, but I might do more precise feedback later. But this website is a good start.
The thing is, doesn't youtube have the audio slower also? To like 0.5.
They did but I think it was a beta thing that they've since removed. If it's there for you then by all means use it but for most of us I think, that's no longer an option. :P
Y it does. But this site can slow down songs to 0%. And I find it really useful, sometimes I need to slow down a song to 10% or even 0% at a specific place just to hear a note, maybe some harmony-notes. And if you have a keyboard or a keyboard software nearby to compare, it is a really efficient strategy.
Huh, that does seem like a good tool, but the main problem for me is the key/time signature changes and some songs are just too complicated, like glissandos and all those fancybstuff. Who knew arranging songs were this painstaking? Heck, even A Tense Moment which to the ear is really easy, had to be edited by MLF to make it sound good. I mean, seriously. I envy all you good arrangers.
Y, to answer some questions:
Some songs are deceptive, they seems really easy but are very hard. For example a song I arranged:
Simple Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iJtoYKTEG8
. It seems really easy but those harp chords took time...
A little tip: I started out with 8-bit songs for zelda games. And 8-bit songs and songs with lower sound quality are often way easier, rather than orchestral songs which often are hard. I also used to use midis (http://www.vgmusic.com/) for my early arrangements, which facilitates arranging greatly.
But with time you grow as an arranger and you learn and become better every day! And some day your arrangements might be just as good as those from the best arrangers on the site. :)
Thank you for your words, but at this rate I don't know where I'll go. I'm pretty sure there are no more 8 bit songs left as they already have been arranged, but hey, I guess I should stop wallowing in my self pity and start doing some shizz.
no 8-bit songs left. Not really.
I obviously don't want to make a big list about the games that still aren't arranged but some notables: castlevania(especially 3:draculas curse), ghost 'n goblins, Final fantasy, lot's of random games I don't know about etc.
I usually do games I played before and which soundtrack I like so Zelda: Oracles of Ages/Seasons was a natural starter for me. Even though there are already a lot of songs arranged for the game, there were still a lot of good songs left. And some songs might have old and bad arrangements and might need a replacement.
I guess so~
I was worse than you, Maya, when I started 3 years ago and I'm a slow learner. It just takes practice :)