TWG: Zombies!As I mentioned in my last post here, I'm designing a game in which everyone gets a death posts, except for a few people, that is. I'm expecting it to function as a pseudo-cardflip, in which people have to weigh the benefits of confirming their humanity with waiting until late in the game to give much-needed insight or push an important suspicion.
Wolves1.
Master Wolf2.
Wolf Shaman:
Does not get a death post3.
Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems.
Does not get a death postHumans4.
Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian.
Does not get a Death post5.
Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6.
Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night.
Begins with the Magic Conch!7.
Human:
8.
Human: All human roles are the same.
9.
Human:
10.
Human:
11.
Human:
12.
Human:
13.
Human:
Zombies14.
Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night.
May not be revived. Does not know his partners.15.
Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life.
Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.16.
Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities.
Does not get a death post.
May not be revived. Does not know his partners.Now with Magic Conch!Magic Conch: Starts with the vigi. During Night 1, he must pass it to another player. Let's call that player Jimmy. During Night 2, Jimmy has two jobs:
First, Jimmy must put two names into the conch.
Second, Jimmy must pass the conch to a third player who cannot be the vigi. Let's call this person Bobby. If Jimmy tries to pass the Conch to the vigi, I'll decide who gets it via random number generator.
Bobby may put two names into the conch as well during Night 3.
At the start of Day 3,
if neither Jimmy nor Bobby is a wolf, the conch will release the list of the people whose names were put in the Conch and how many of those people are wolves, zombies, specials, and humans, but not which ones go with which roles. It will also tell the thread that Jimmy and Bobby held the conch. If one of Jimmy or Bobby is a wolf, the conch will say nothing. If either Jimmy is killed Night 1 or Day 1 or Bobby is killed Night 2, or Day 2, the conch explodes. I'll tell the thread if the Conch explodes.
Important notes:
1. Zombie followers are people resurrected by the Grave Robber and bitten by the Zombie Leader
on the same night. If the Zombie leader bites someone on Night 3 and they're resurrected Night 4 (or vice versa), that person simply comes back to life. Zombie followers do
not count toward the Zombie win condition.
2. If a person becomes a zombie follower once and is lynched, they aren't automatically a Zombie follower if revived. They could still theoretically be revived, they just can't be controlled to kill people unless bitten again.
3. Win Conditions: The humans win when they eliminate both the wolves and the Zombies. The wolves win when their number equals the number of humans + the number of Zombies remaining. The Zombies win when their number equals the number of humans + the number of Wolves remaining. The Zombies' win condition overrides the wolves' win condition.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. Waddle Bro
Replacements:
1. FSM-Reapr
It is now Night 1. Night 1 ends on March 19th at 11:59 EST.Role PM's
Vermilionvermin: You are the Master Wolf. You are the only wolf who gets a death post. Your partners are Vermilionvermin (Shaman) and Vermilionvermin (Totem).
Vermilionvermin: You are the Wolf Shaman. You get one seering per night. You do not get a death post. Your partners are Vermilionvermin (Master) and Vermilionvermin (Totem)
Vermilionvermin: You are the Wolf Totem. Once in the game, you may replace the Totem Guy's message with one of your own. When the Totem Guy dies, you may commandeer all of the totems, but you won't be notified of his death. You also get two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. You do not get a death post. Your partners are Vermilionvermin (Master) and Vermilionvermin (Shaman)
Vermilionvermin: You are the Guardian. Keep in mind that, each time you guard the seer or vigi, you decrease his ability to use his power by 1. When you die, you may choose to pass on your guardian power to another player, whose guardian will have the same effect as your guard. That player may not pass it down when they die. If that player is a wolf or a zombie, they will gain the ability to choose not to make their vote count.
Vermilionvermin: You are the Seer. You have 5 uses of your power and may only use one per night. Each night you are guarded, you lose one use of your power.
Vermilionvermin: You are the Vigilante. You have 3 uses of your power, and you lose one use of it each time you are guarded. You have the Magic Conch!
(description of Magic Conch)
Vermilionvermin: You are a human.
Vermilionvermin: You are a human.
Vermilionvermin: You are a human.
Vermilionvermin: You are a human.
Vermilionvermin: You are a human.
Vermilionvermin: You are a human.
Vermilionvermin: You are a human.
Vermilionvermin: You are the Zombie Leader. Each night, beginning Night 2, you may bite one dead body. If, on that night, you bite the same person the Grave Robber resurrects, that person will become a Zombie Follower. For every Zombie Follower you have alive at night, you may kill one person. You may not be revived.
Vermilionvermin: You are the Grave Robber. Each night beginning night 2, you may choose one person in the graveyard (dead) that you want to resurrect (revive). If that person is the same person as selected by the Zombie leader, that person will become a Zombie follower, who does not count toward your win condition. If the Zombie leader is dead or does not bite the same person you revive, that person will be revived with their normal role.
Vermilionvermin: You are the Totem Guy. Each Night, you may post one Totem. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or guardian has guessed your identity, you may learn the names of your pals! If either one of your friends dies, you may take over for them, becoming green as well (though still maintaining your totem abilities).
Let the games begin!
Games
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Vermillionvermin
Mashi
As always, I find myself in the regrettable position of not having read the roles prior to signing up.
I should do that.
The guardian should claim.
He could than eighter guard himself, which does not cause the number of seer/vigi powers decrease, or guard the seer/vigi (seer would help us find the wolves, while the vigi helps us kill the revived zombies), which do decrease their number of power uses, but also means that one of them is safe from being wolf'd, and if the guardian is wolf'd, he can pas his guarding ability to the seer/vigi.
Yeah, guardian should claim.
Having the vigilante or seer claim presents obvious downsides and trying to find a human alliance mouthpiece through the seer or the magic conch are not foolproof, thanks to the master wolf and zombies respectively.
Quote from: davy on March 17, 2013, 02:49:10 PMThe guardian should claim.
He could than eighter guard himself, which does not cause the number of seer/vigi powers decrease, or guard the seer/vigi (seer would help us find the wolves, while the vigi helps us kill the revived zombies), which do decrease their number of power uses, but also means that one of them is safe from being wolf'd, and if the guardian is wolf'd, he can pas his guarding ability to the seer/vigi.
CAN the guardian guard himself? It doesn't seem to mention that in the role description??
I think the assumption is that the guardian is capable of guarding everyone unless it's explicitly stated that they can't.
Also: after guardian claims, we should start trying to figure out the identity of the Totem Guy. Chances are he'll be lying low, since by doing so he can pass unseen along with anyone else who does so.
lol, I just realized: What happens if the Totem Guy's identity is guessed, Verm?
Quote from: Bird on March 17, 2013, 02:41:03 PMAs always, I find myself in the regrettable position of not having read the roles prior to signing up.
I should do that.
No, the guardian cannot guard himself/herself. EDIT: And TZP,
QuoteIf, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he [the totem guy] will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 17, 2013, 03:13:23 PMlol, I just realized: What happens if the Totem Guy's identity is guessed, Verm?
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 17, 2013, 03:13:23 PMlol, I just realized: What happens if the Totem Guy's identity is guessed, Verm?
Probably just not learning the identities of the Zombie leader and grave robber.
So... nothing.
That's what I got out of the description.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 17, 2013, 03:45:54 PMNo, the guardian cannot guard himself/herself.
In that case, I don't think it would be the best idea for the guardian to claim... lest we have a situation like last game, with multiple specials dying during the early phases...
Dude is correct. The goal of the Wolf Totem and Guardian's guessing is to prevent the Totem Guy from learning his partner's identities.
Imo the vigi should claim. I think that having a seer who could seer 5 times is better than vigi with 2-1 times.
Wait, I didn't know that after all the vigi times are gone you can't guard him. Let me rephrase this:
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 17, 2013, 04:24:32 PMImo the vigi should claim. I think that having a seer who could seer 5 times is better than vigi with 0 times.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 17, 2013, 04:24:32 PMImo the vigi should claim. I think that having a seer who could seer 5 times is better than vigi with 2-1 times.
I agree.
I am the vigilante.Go ahead and claim to me.
Also can we not do that thing where nobody claims since everybody is paranoid for no good reason? It would be extremely dumb for anyone to false claim vigi, since the real vigi would just kill them immediately.
There are 16 players. It would be highly appreciated if everybody would have time to claim to Bird so we wouldn't have to guess what was the role of the player who died this phase.
deja vu
@ Waddle Bro: Specials who have run out of powers may still be guarded.
:O next time verm make clearer rules
I wish I had known that, in that case it probs would have been better for the seer to claim but oh well.
But then we'd have less seers?
Derp
It's late so let me be
waddle and bird tag-team wolves-- I sees it. they just want you guys to claim to them for their evil schemes.
Quote from: spitllama on March 17, 2013, 05:34:44 PMwaddle and bird tag-team wolves-- I sees it. they just want you guys to claim to them for their evil schemes.
your logic is flawless
darn bird
spit caught us
we might as well give up
i give up
jk
I have 4 human claims and one Guardian claim. Keep 'em coming.
Real vigi, take out Bird now. :P
Remember guys: If we Seer someone purple or red, they should be vigi'd or lynched immediately. Right?
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 17, 2013, 08:00:59 PMRemember guys: If we Seer someone purple or red, they should be vigi'd or lynched immediately. Right?
Yes.
Anyway, I've received claims from the following players:
K-NiGhT
Yugi
blueflower999
TheZeldaPianist275
spitllama
Dude
Waddle Bro
Meaning I still need claims from:
BlackDragonSlayer
MaestroUGC
Thiannon
davy
The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Bubbles7689
Mashi
wolf
Just waiting on three more claims.
You got mine, right?
Yep. Just two people now.
All right, obligatory Neverending White Lights Night One check-in post. Thanks to vermillionvermin and FSM for helping me get into the game.
Yeah, that's all I've got.
Dear wolves,
We should work together in finding the totem guy. It would be extremely lame if we picked the same person, or if you guys wolfed the person we were picking! So, without even looking at the role list, I suggest we split things this way, at least for this night phase:
We'll pick a totem and seer target from the top half of the list (1-8).
You guys pick a totem, wolfing, and seer target from the bottom half of the list (9-16).
With a system like this, we'll have a pretty good chance of getting those darn Zombies before they can do anything about it. And I know it looks like I'm just manipulating you guys into attacking people in the top half of the list, but it's really for the greater good! We can switch what half of the list we get on night 2. And I can't think of a way of splitting the list or targets that's more fair (without revealing information about the alliance anyway).
So yeah. Please follow along, even if you don't want to!
As it doesn't matter wether I'm lynched or not as Totem guy can take over my role , I claim Grave Robber.
i claim wuff ::)
Quote from: Yugi on March 18, 2013, 02:22:46 PMAs it doesn't matter wether I'm lynched or not as Totem guy can take over my role , I claim Grave Robber.
Bird, I'm reminding you that
Yugi should be vigi'd this phase!
Not entirely sure why Yugi claimed that. ???
Most likely to try get the other zombies to claim to him.
I'm not sure if that's worth the penalty considering that there's only 3 of them and it could have been done anyway by the Totem Guy if he stayed undercover.
*and unite the zombie team
ninja'd
http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.NFnet.org&channel=%23TWGNSM
come you ducks
Wait, what, no, don't claim to Yugi. I'm the Grave Robber.
Ugh, no one had better have claimed to him so suddenly.
Wolf
-.-
Quote from: wolf on March 18, 2013, 10:18:47 PMWhats wuff?
Un perro.Un perro
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But not
un perro. It's the evil cousin of
el perro. The wolf.
No es un perro
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A.K.A. Woof woof.
K-NiGhT already answered, but... Not much is going on right now... perhaps in the day...? ;P
Ohhhhhhhh.........
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 17, 2013, 02:19:24 PMIt is now Night 1. Night 1 ends on March 19th at 11:59 EST.
Is that PM or AM?
Quote from: davy on March 19, 2013, 11:36:12 AMIs that PM or AM?
If it were Noon, I think the phase would've ended by now, so I think he means around Midnight EST.
Yeah, I meant PM. I usually only use 11:59 instead of 12 to avoid confusion with the date.
I'll update the phase tomorrow at 11:59 PM EST because NSM was down for a lot of today.
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you see what happens when you make night phases 72 hours long???
.gifs happen!!!
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The worst part is that there's nothing really significant to talk about! D:
DAMMIT WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE TO BE POSTING GIFS WHEN I'M ON A SCHOOL COMPUTER.
NOW I CAN'T POST MY SOOPER SECRET STASH OF GIFS.
OHWELL YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE GIF IN MY AVATAR.
Does phase end in 1hour and 30mins or so?
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 19, 2013, 11:11:19 PMI'll update the phase tomorrow at 11:59 PM EST because NSM was down for a lot of today.
Tomorrow meaning today? You posted that at 2 AM
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 20, 2013, 03:26:00 PMDoes phase end in 1hour and 30mins or so?
Its about 6:30 now so I'm guessing no XD
I guess my timezone is not EST.
EST is the eastern coast of the United States, so no. :P
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 20, 2013, 03:33:21 PMEST is the eastern coast of the United States, so no. :P
So, essentially, PST time + 3 Hours = EST??
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 20, 2013, 03:33:21 PMEST is the eastern coast of the United States, so no. :P
I was close.
Only a few thousand miles out..
When would phase end GMT?
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Yes, we are that bored. :P
Grave Robber and Totem Guy, claim to me. :(
Quote from: Mashi on March 18, 2013, 04:10:49 PMWait, what, no, don't claim to Yugi. I'm the Grave Robber.
Ugh, no one had better have claimed to him so suddenly.
I CAUGHT YOU MASHI :o
Mashi loses.
You see what happens Verm? You see what happens when we get bored during a TWG?
(also, I'm not sure whether Mashi or Yugi are actually who they say they may be... they may be wolves or other zombies trying to cover for the Grave Digger)
What did I just watch. O_O
....wow.
Yeah, I seriously doubt either Mashi or Yugi are the Grave Robber. Unless Mashi's using reverse REVERSE psychology.
Isn't my seductive banana amazing?
Yes, the phase ends tonight. In about about four and a half hours. I'm operating on PST, but converting the time to EST for where I think the plurality of TWGers lives.
:o I thought you were one of us east-coasters!
TWG: Zombies!Wolves1.
Master Wolf2.
Wolf Shaman:
Does not get a death post3.
Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies, he gets to write ALL the totems.
Does not get a death postHumans4.
Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian.
Does not get a Death post5.
Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6.
Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night.
Begins with the Magic Conch!7.
Human:
8.
Human: All human roles are the same.
9.
Human:
10.
Human:
11.
Human:
12.
Human:
13.
Human:
Zombies14.
Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night.
May not be revived. Does not know his partners.15.
Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life.
Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.16.
Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities.
Does not get a death post.
May not be revived. Does not know his partners.1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. Waddle Bro
Replacements:
1. FSM-Reapr
Quote from: Totem
Spitllama done died. It is now Day 1. Day 1 ends at 11:59 PM EST on Friday, March 22.
Well fuck you too wolves. I held up my end of the deal.
In de chat right now.
http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.NFnet.org&channel=%23TWGNSM
Voting Mashi as he counterclaimed me.
Anyway, it's kind of obvious at this point but Mashi and Yugi were both human. Yugi told me he was fishing for claims, and Mashi told me he was trying to prevent Yugi from receiving claims (since he didn't want the zombies to get together).
I'm waiting on seer results, but I'll form a suspicion list once my people get back to me.
Well, I say they're both human, but what I mean is there isn't any evidence of them being wolves/zombies from Night 1's activities. You get the idea.
Quote from: Bird on March 20, 2013, 09:09:56 PMWell fuck you too wolves. I held up my end of the deal.
Total warfare time?
Quote from: Bird on March 20, 2013, 09:28:24 PMAnyway, it's kind of obvious at this point but Mashi and Yugi were both human. Yugi told me he was fishing for claims, and Mashi told me he was trying to prevent Yugi from receiving claims (since he didn't want the zombies to get together).
I'm waiting on seer results, but I'll form a suspicion list once my people get back to me.
Plus the fact that it wouldn't be smart for the zombies to rush out and claim like that...
If neighter Yugi nor Mashi are the graverobber, I've got the feeling that
Waddle Bro is the graverobber.
After Yugi claimed, he said:
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 18, 2013, 02:40:34 PMBird, I'm reminding you that Yugi should be vigi'd this phase!
The true graverobber would not want to claim publicy, because it would get him lynched, but he would also want to prevend the zombies from claiming to the fake claiming graverobber, which is essentially what Waddle Bro did by asking Bird to vigi Yugi.
Huh. That's goofy. Why was Spit wolfed?
Only things he did: 1) Make the joke about Waddle and Bird being wolves and 2) Claim to Bird.
I think the wolves were specifically trying to take out someone who had been lying low for the purpose of giving us nothing to go on. So who would that be? Who's a paranoid wolf who's afraid that someone will guess his identity Night 1?
blackdragonslayer
JK. Let's stay aware of that for the time being though.
For now, my vote is on Waddle Bro for that panicky post. Don't really have much more to go on right now.
Ha, funny. I already have to give up since I'll be busy because of schoolwork. I will most likely be unable to participate the next TWG, too.
Holy shit, if I get lynched for making a post that intended to help the human team, I promise that it's time for me to take a longer break from TWG.
I only said it because at the time I thought the Night Phase was going to end 24 hours after it had started. I remember saying to Blueflower in the Mibbit chat that when he asked "when is the phase going to end?" I said: "normally idk" or something like that. I don't have the log, but ask Blueflower. He should confirm this.
Bird wasn't online at the time and there was only hours until the phase is going to end(when I thought that Night Phases last 24 hours, like they usually do) and I was going to be busy for the rest of the evening trying to finish my book report for the English class. I definitely didn't want the Zombies to unite so I made a reminder post for Bird so he would see it and wouldn't have a chance of missing it if he'd come online only minutes before the phase ends. I have always seen life that it's better to regret you did then something what you didn't do. I legitimately didn't see what harm could making that post do to me. I see now.
Besides, I was always positive that if Yugi was false-claiming, there would be no doubt that he wouldn't tell Bird his plans to avoid him getting lynched. I might have said Blueflower something about this, I'm not exactly sure. Anyways, if you honestly think that I didn't think of an obvious fact like that, you're underestimating my TWG skills. Big time.
Also, I honestly was going to do exactly what Mashi did, just in case Yugi was actually the real Grave Robber just avoiding to get vigi'd and still possibly receive claims. But Mashi was faster by
seconds before I told Bird my plan, he can prove this!
I actually will vote for
Yugi. I think Yugi is actually the Grave Robber, trying to play false-claiming to Bird, since that's what I would have done if I was him. But, I'll most likely change this to match the top name on Bird's suspicion list he'll post.
Here's a PM I sent to FSM containing my thoughts, so he could take over me with no worries.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 20, 2013, 03:47:31 AMHi bro(and vermverm).
I heard I was supposed to send you a PM containing my thoughts.
Unfortunately I'm able to tell you that I have to leave from the current TWG since I'm too busy with schoolwork. I know, it's sad. :(
I think Yugi is actually the Grave Robber, trying to play false-claiming to Bird, since that's what I would have done if I was him.
As you can see, this proves that I'm not the Grave Robber. Why the hell would have I said that I think Yugi's the one if I'm myself the one?!
(also by "him" I mean grave robber in the end. I should of chosen my words better, sorry)
Also I wish FSM would take over me in the middle of this Day Phase because I'll be busy rest of the Day and I honestly have no time to waste, I was supposed to do my Finnish essay but this post took most of the time I had. :(
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 21, 2013, 07:58:57 AMI actually will vote for Yugi. [...] But, I'll most likely change this to match the top name on Bird's suspicion list he'll post.
I'm flattered, but I don't know much more about the wolves than you!
Unless you're a wolf anyway.
The seer didn't find any lynchable results, so we're going to have to figure things out manually. Everybody should make suspicion lists. You don't have to list everyone, just top 5 and bottom 5 with explanations on why you think they're a wolf/zombie/human. It's imperative that we identify at least 5 suspicious players this phase, since we not only have to lynch somebody, but we need to come up with totem candidates for the guardian and for the wolf guy who does totem stuff.
I'll release my list once a few other people have made theirs. I don't want people to just restate my own opinion back to me.
Also, please replace Maestro with FSM.
Waddle
I thought you were quite out of character at the start of this phase. I don't know if you were just being extremely enthusiastic to help humans or trying to look good for the post game or what but I'm getting this feeling your trying too much to look human/help humans.
Just a feeling from you. No strong push towards you like 'kill himm nowww!' But you do just seem a little too enthusiastic.
I'll replace the one who asked first.
I'm most likely going to get lynched as far as I think, so I think it would be best that FSM would replace the inactive Maestro instead of me.
Also idk why people are voting me even though I provided a good defense imo, lol. You should vote later since the least what we want is an insta.
Also TBWCW, I want to get one thing straight. You can never try too hard to help humans. If you are not willing to give your 110%, you're not a guy I'd exactly call a team player.
Also working on a suspicion list.
Triple post because I can
I came up with a plan to find out is a dead guy a zombie, wolf or a human.
Since most of the bad guys aren't given death posts, all you have to do is to make a death post and we can see are you a wolf, since if you don't make a death post, you're 100% wuff or a zombie. This would be recommended to do as soon as you die.
Safety on TZP because I have no fucking clue what to think just yet.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 21, 2013, 10:25:47 AMTriple post because I can
I came up with a plan to find out is a dead guy a zombie, wolf or a human.
Since most of the bad guys aren't given death posts, all you have to do is to make a death post and we can see are you a wolf, since if you don't make a death post, you're 100% wuff or a zombie. This would be recommended to do as soon as you die.
Only one flaw with that: the Master Wolf gets a death post, but the Guardian doesn't.
Also, I'm not really sure if I could pick five people total who are suspicious, especially so early... Waddle Bro is obviously acting rather suspicious, whether or not that means he's non-human (wolf OR zombie), but it wouldn't be entirely smart to jump on the bandwagon... yet. :P
And aside from Yugi-Fox and Mashi's claims, which Bird seems to trust as being to try and lure the zombies, nobody else seems to be doing much to justify my "odd suspicion(s)"...
Removing vote from Waddle Bro for what was indeed a good defense.
Also: Verm, what was up with that blank totem? Was that intentional?
My suspicions:
I was literally about to actually write this, but then I looked at the player list again. Wolf. Maestro. Bubbles. Thiannon. K-Night. Davy. These guys have all been super inactive. I have no clue what to say about them.
Also, I was about to change my vote to Boy for continuing to attack Waddle, but reread his post and it seems like an innocent reason, even if it's weak. Boy, I'd strongly recommend removing that vote. I see what you're saying, but the vibe I got wasn't excitement as much as intensity, for lack of a better word.
Bubbles for now, because of an uncharacteristically small amount of activity. Last time she did this, she was the Meta.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 21, 2013, 07:58:57 AMHa, funny. I already have to give up since I'll be busy because of schoolwork. I will most likely be unable to participate the next TWG, too.
Holy shit, if I get lynched for making a post that intended to help the human team, I promise that it's time for me to take a longer break from TWG.
I only said it because at the time I thought the Night Phase was going to end 24 hours after it had started. I remember saying to Blueflower in the Mibbit chat that when he asked "when is the phase going to end?" I said: "normally idk" or something like that. I don't have the log, but ask Blueflower. He should confirm this.
Bird wasn't online at the time and there was only hours until the phase is going to end(when I thought that Night Phases last 24 hours, like they usually do) and I was going to be busy for the rest of the evening trying to finish my book report for the English class. I definitely didn't want the Zombies to unite so I made a reminder post for Bird so he would see it and wouldn't have a chance of missing it if he'd come online only minutes before the phase ends. I have always seen life that it's better to regret you did then something what you didn't do. I legitimately didn't see what harm could making that post do to me. I see now.
Besides, I was always positive that if Yugi was false-claiming, there would be no doubt that he wouldn't tell Bird his plans to avoid him getting lynched. I might have said Blueflower something about this, I'm not exactly sure. Anyways, if you honestly think that I didn't think of an obvious fact like that, you're underestimating my TWG skills. Big time.
Also, I honestly was going to do exactly what Mashi did, just in case Yugi was actually the real Grave Robber just avoiding to get vigi'd and still possibly receive claims. But Mashi was faster by seconds before I told Bird my plan, he can prove this!
I actually will vote for Yugi. I think Yugi is actually the Grave Robber, trying to play false-claiming to Bird, since that's what I would have done if I was him. But, I'll most likely change this to match the top name on Bird's suspicion list he'll post.
Here's a PM I sent to FSM containing my thoughts, so he could take over me with no worries.As you can see, this proves that I'm not the Grave Robber. Why the hell would have I said that I think Yugi's the one if I'm myself the one?!
(also by "him" I mean grave robber in the end. I should of chosen my words better, sorry)
Also I wish FSM would take over me in the middle of this Day Phase because I'll be busy rest of the Day and I honestly have no time to waste, I was supposed to do my Finnish essay but this post took most of the time I had. :(
ok your argument about the 24 hour long night phase seems reasonable.
I think the risk of dying for Yugi would be a bit to high to try to claim like that, but that's just my opinion.
The PM does not prove your humanity, it could have easily be faked, and none of the players recieving the PM can confirm it, since one of them is the host, and the other one is not playing. Saying that it proves that you're not the Grave Robber only increases my suspicion for you (also, isn't there a rule that you may not sent messages containing TWG information to members that are not playing in/not hosting the current game?).
In the end, that defense lowered my suspicion of you, but not enough to remove you from my list.
Moving on to my suspicion list:
Since not so much has happened so far, none of my suspects are very suspicious, but just more suspicious than the rest of the players.
1.
MashiMashi said he counterclaimed Yugi to prevent the zombies from setting up. Later however, he makes this post:
Quote from: Mashi on March 20, 2013, 03:53:47 PMGrave Robber and Totem Guy, claim to me. :(
in which he reveals that he's not the Grave Robber. That could eighter be a mistake of the Zombie Leader or of a fake claiming normal human. However, by asking the Grave Robber to claim to him, he is revealing that he doesn't think Yugi's claim is real. If Mashi would be a human, Mashi would have counterclaimed because he thought Yugi's claim was real, whereas as a Zombie, Mashi would have counterclaimed because he thought Yugi's claim was fake.
2. Waddle bro, see above.
3. Yugi
Claimed Graverobber, and if neighter Mashi nor Waddle are the graverobber, Yugi is pretty likely to be it.
4. Spitllama
Didn't make a death post yet.
5. Bubbles, because she's the only one on TZP's list where I agree on.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 21, 2013, 11:20:07 AMRemoving vote from Waddle Bro for what was indeed a good defense.
Also: Verm, what was up with that blank totem? Was that intentional?
My suspicions:
I was literally about to actually write this, but then I looked at the player list again. Wolf. Maestro. Bubbles. Thiannon. K-Night. Davy. These guys have all been super inactive. I have no clue what to say about them.
Also, I was about to change my vote to Boy for continuing to attack Waddle, but reread his post and it seems like an innocent reason, even if it's weak. Boy, I'd strongly recommend removing that vote. I see what you're saying, but the vibe I got wasn't excitement as much as intensity, for lack of a better word.
Bubbles for now, because of an uncharacteristically small amount of activity. Last time she did this, she was the Meta.
As described above, I only agree on Bubbles being suspicious with her inactivity. Wolf is quite being his normal self, Maestro is never this inactive (neighter as a human, nor as a wolf), while Thiannon is usually laying low (both as a human and as a wolf). K-Night has an excuse due to the story he's trying to finish, and as for myself, I only make posts when they have a real input into the game, which I did three times now.
As for the bottom of my suspicion list (nearly typed 'as for my bottom'):
1st lowest: Myself, if that counts, because I have read in my role PM that I am a normal human.
2nd lowest: Bird, uncounterclaimed vigi.
3rd lowest: Dude, has been active so far, which often means he's a human.
4th lowest: TZP, has been quite helpful to the human team so far.
5th lowest: Wolf, so far he played quite like he did in his last game, in which he was a human.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 21, 2013, 07:58:57 AMI actually will vote for Yugi. I think Yugi is actually the Grave Robber, trying to play false-claiming to Bird,
But I actually
shared my claims with bird (The Claim was sadly a fake though), why would I do that if I was really a Zombie?
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 21, 2013, 11:20:07 AMBubbles for now, because of an uncharacteristically small amount of activity. Last time she did this, she was the Meta.
Im not really THAT inactive ::) Just apparently the only one on nsm that isn't currently on spring break/has access to internet before 6PM -.-
The phase ended at about 12 AM my time (EST), and spitllama has been online since then. I don't really think he would not make a death post if he were able to, so does this almost-confirm him as a zombie/guardian?
Waddle's defense seems legit, but TBWCW's suspicion of him doesn't. He voted because of a "feeling" of his being "enthusiastic" and trying to look good? If you look back, this was AFTER Waddle made his defense. I can't tell if TBWCW is just bandwagoning, looking for a lynch, or just picking on the Otso bros again (IM NOT TAKING A SIDE IN THIS ARGUMENT OK). TZP, personally I think the post's weakness outweighs its innocentness
Despite all this I still don't know if I want to vote for him XD Just remove your vote man (boy? :P)
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on March 21, 2013, 03:17:57 PMIm not really THAT inactive ::) Just apparently the only one on nsm that isn't currently on spring break/has access to internet before 6PM -.-
You're not the only one, although I can get onto the internet a selected times at school.
why can't everyone be kool like davy
There is a limit to my coolness and Davy breaks my limit.
Quote from: Bird on March 21, 2013, 03:27:19 PMwhy can't everyone be kool like davy
HIS EDGY PLANET NEEDS HIM.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 21, 2013, 03:29:57 PMThere is a limit to my coolness and Davy breaks my limit.
THIS is why TBWCW is not on my suspicion list.
jk, actually overlooked his post with his vote, which puts him on 2 in my suspicion list.
Davy, I wasn't accusing the inactive people or even saying they were suspicious. Just saying that I didn't know what to think about them.
And waitwaitwaitaminute, Social actually got claims? I missed that.
Fine Bird. -__-
1.
Bubbles Not quite sure what to make of her defense. I'll leave my vote on her for now.
2. Mashi- Pretty weird shenanigans. See Davy's post.
3. BlackDragonSlayer- Nobody attack me for this. I'm just getting kind of a weird vibe from how he's acting this phase.
4. Maestro- I know he usually doesn't say much, but he hasn't said ANYTHING.
5. Blueflower- Uncharacteristic inactivity, but not quite to the extent that Bubbles is.
6. TBWCW- His attack on Waddle was extremely frivolous.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on March 21, 2013, 03:17:57 PMor just picking on the Otso bros again
^ that made me lol.
7. Yugi- His claim seems a bit more legit than Mashi's.
8. K-Night- I was wuff with him last game, and I think he would have behaved a bit differently than he is now.
9. Waddle Bro- Meh. See Davy's post.
10. Wolf- I know he's new, but new players usually post more than this.
11. Thiannon- I've never done TWG with him before, so I'm going off what Davy said about his activity level. I am ready and waiting to boot him higher up my list.
12. Davy- You're thinking through your arguments well, so you're pretty low. For now.
13. Dude-
Quote from: Dude on March 21, 2013, 10:43:59 AMSafety on TZP because I have no fucking clue what to think just yet.
Yup. Sounds like Dude.
14. Bird- Uncounterclaimed.
15. TZP- AWWWWWWWWW YEEEAAAAHHHHHHHH
On a side note, does someone want to explain the "I am the please" joke to me?
It's just a joke that Mashi uses. Not really sure if there's any logic behind it. Mashi doesn't need logic because he is the please.
Hey, its day 1, not much to go on.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 21, 2013, 03:44:40 PM1. Bubbles Not quite sure what to make of her defense. I'll leave my vote on her for now.
My "defense"? Theres nothing really to defend since its just an inactivity thing
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 21, 2013, 03:44:40 PM3. BlackDragonSlayer- Nobody attack me for this. I'm just getting kind of a weird vibe from how he's acting this phase.
Don't worry; that's normal to think. :P
I don't think Yugi is the Grave Robber. I sent him a false claim trying to pretend to be a Zombie that counterclaimed to cause confusion (in case he truly was the Grave Robber; I couldn't really tell whether it was planned by the conversation I had with Bird), but he didn't respond, despite having been online. If he were the Grave Robber, I would imagine that because of that fact, he would have at least felt inclined to respond, instead of a Human, who would probably ignore it. I only say this because in the past (in my memory), I've noticed that Wolves had been more prone to responding to such shenanigans than Humans.
Then there's also the fact that he tried to have Zombies claim to him to out them in the thread. I presume that he told Bird of his plans prior. And I also presume that Yugi is rational and realises that claiming as a Zombie isn't a good idea. So it really would make more sense for him to false claim as a Human than truly claim as a Zombie, as the latter would lead to a huge loss on his team.
Also, in rehard to davy, hahaha, whoops, I forgot the role I false claimed! I seem to have grown a fancy for that since last game (I might have made that same mistake in my false claim to Yugi too; whoops!!!). My mistake; though, I don't really see why you would think I make such an outrageous mistake like that. I'm careless sometimes; look at last game and how my Seer claim to BlackDragonSlayer occurred at the eleventh hour.
Anyhow, I'm looking positively towards Yugi currently, despite relative suspicion by a couple of Players. I feel that, as a Wolf, he wouldn't be prone to thinking of plans like false claiming a Zombie Role. This type of false claiming plan sounds like something he would more likely come up with as a Human, but that's just me, anyhow.
Suspicion list a bit later.
Quote from: Yugi on March 21, 2013, 03:12:27 PMBut I actually shared my claims with bird (The Claim was sadly a fake though), why would I do that if I was really a Zombie?
In that case I will remove my vote! Sorry, I had no idea! idk
MaestroAlso this is my last phase, it seems that FSM will take over me, asap I guess. I'll be gone most of tomorrow.
I got my role PM.
There
Gah I leave for one day and there's like 5 pages to read.[/exaggeration]
Anyway. I really am not sure who to vote for :|
This is me posting to confirm that FSM is replacing Waddle.
Did we find this totem guy?
I bet it's you Wolf.
So I was a few paragraphs into this post when Windows crashed and destroyed it and I don't really feel like typing it all up again. The gist of it was that I don't think Waddle's actual defense was all that good; it goes a long way toward making him not seem like a zombie, but I can definitely see it as something a wolf would make, mostly because I can see someone getting really frustrated for getting lynched because of suspected zombie leanings when he's actually a wolf. I still think Waddle's probably human, though, and that it's at least worth keeping FSM around for a couple phases to get a read on him. Waddle's point about death posts was a really good one.
TBWCW's pseudo-bandwagon vote didn't strike me as particularly odd. That's sort of how he plays, isn't it? TZP's assertion that Waddle's defense was a good one is one I disagree with, but that doesn't necessarily make him a wolf. One thing that I did think looked odd was TZP's over-analysis of the kill--I could see both an inexperienced wolf and an inexperienced human doing this. What did everyone else think?
Finally, I think it's worth considering what players would have disregarded Bird's request that the wolves kill from the bottom half of the player list. Maestro, Waddle, and Dude come to mind.
Suspicious People:
Bubbles7689
MaestroUGC
spitllama
K-NiGhT
TheZeldaPianist275
Dude
Waddle Bro
I'm voting Bubbles for now. Might as well make her work to stay around. I do think we should lynch an inactive this phase. Day 1 lynches typically fail because they're almost always of humans making dumb mistakes. Also, it's entirely possible I'm not on before the end of the phase, as I'll be out of town the next two days looking at grad schools. I'm only here right now because I can't sleep (nice of NSM to provide a silver lining in that respect).
Also, I think everyone should make a death post who can, except for Bird and anyone else who ends up confirmed.
I did think Waddles defence was made mainly directly at the favt that he can not be the Grave Robber. I didn't vote him for being grave robber though so my vote is actually staying.
And yeh, Thiannon's right. I tend to make votes to watch reactions a lot and I nearly always get some good results. I don't tend to 'random vote' though, so my votes always do have some meaning in them.
Quote from: wolf on March 21, 2013, 11:51:54 PMDid we find this totem guy?
Wolf, are you even reading along with this? I would be paying attention if I were you.
Quote from: Thiannon on March 22, 2013, 12:34:31 AMI could see both an inexperienced wolf and an inexperienced human doing this
Well thanks >_<
Quote from: Thiannon on March 22, 2013, 12:34:31 AMI'm voting Bubbles for now. Might as well make her work to stay around.
This bothers me. Might as well make her work? Thiannon, I'm pretty sure you're better at TWG than this, so why don't you state your REAL reasons for voting her out loud to the thread.
I'm here to wreck havoc!
So idk what to exactly do, since I'm not sure what was going inside Waddle's head. He only told me that he was suspicious of Yugi last Night Phase, but that's all.
Waddle's defense was based on the accusation of him being the Grave Robber. Nobody blamed him for being a wolf, so I think that's why he focused on providing information for not being the Grave Robber. I don't see any reason why he/I would be especially wolf or a human based on everything Waddle had said.
Thiannon, I think it would piss humans off as much as wolves to get lynched because people thought that he's/she's a zombie. That's pretty much only thing I disagree with you.
Gonna make a suspicion list later.
I'm going to keep my vote on Waddle until someone else turns up suspicious.
I'm not even sure if FSM could provide a good enough defence for Waddle because they are different people .
I'm not even sure what should I defend myself against!
i do not no
I guess I'll vote for Boy for now until I can get any good suspicions going.
Also, Thiannon, can you tell me why you feel I'm suspicious?
Awh, phase ends round 5am for me. :/
Okay, I went through the thread again and took notes on some of the player who stuck out. There are still a ton of inactive players, and they should probably start posting more since I'm going to vigi one of them tonight.
Anyway, five suspicious players:
Thiannon - Put spitllama on his list of suspicious people. Thiannon is too meticulous to make an oversight like this, leading me to believe it was put there on purpose to make us think he's not a wolf (as in, a wolf would be aware of who was wolfed, so since he didn't know, he's not a wolf).
Bubbles - I agree with everyone on Bubbles. Her inactivity often points to her being a wolf, and she's not being super active this game, whatever her excuse may be.
Davy - Has been really helpful so far, but I'm baffled by wolf and Dude being on his most human list. I can't really see how you can make a judgement like that when they've both made like two posts.
Yugi - Claimed grave robber. He told me that he was doing this to fish for claims, but I could easily see him being the actual graverobber, getting some actual claims, then telling me that nobody fell for it.
blueflower999 - First he made a post (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5452.msg204157#msg204157) about how purples and reds should be lynched. This seems kind of obvious to me, and strikes me as a post a wolf might make in order to appear helpful without actually helping. Second, he told me in a PM that I should try not to reveal who has claimed, since the wolves would determine who the special roles are through it. This is actually helpful, but part of me wonders if the only reason he thought of this was because he himself was a wolf trying to determine the specials through it.
And three human players:
Me - Obvious
BlackDragonlayer - Expressed concerns about the guardian claiming, which was pretty good, since if the guardian had actually claimed we would have been screwed over.
Waddle Bro - Not sure why he was voted for, he seems very helpful so far. He introduced the idea of the vigi claiming, which was an excellent idea, and suggested that Yugi be lynched, which is also pretty helpful.
Naturally I have a few more human players up my sleeves, but I don't want to give the wolves too much information. For the record, I'm totally fine with a Bubbles lynch, but I feel like we can do a little better with some discussion. I'd like each of the people in my suspicious section (as well as the people in everyone's suspicious sections) to respond to those allegations before making a decision.
Additionally, the inactive players need to start helping. And some of the players who are active need to start helping more by making more decisive posts. Looking at you Mashi!!! I would especially like to see more information from the following:
Dude
wolf
k-NiGhT
Other Thoughts:
TheZeldaPianist275 - My current candidate for totem guy, considering his out of place totem-related post on night 1.
Pretty sure I wouldn't tell you that if I was a wolf.
Probably. You're definitely the weakest of the 5 suspicions, but I think you're selling yourself short as a wolf. I wouldn't put it past you, anyway.
The last time Bubbles was quiet like this was when she was the Meta.
Quote from: Bird on March 22, 2013, 01:08:02 PMDavy - Has been really helpful so far, but I'm baffled by wolf and Dude being on his most human list. I can't really see how you can make a judgement like that when they've both made like two posts.
Well bird, I tend not to make suspicion lists so soon in the game (look at earlier games if you want to), because most players are not easy to make a judgement on by now. I can't make a solid justification for both active and inactive players so early in the game, so if there's only a weak reason for players for entering my most human list, it's already enough of a reason to enter my list.
Quote from: Mashi on March 21, 2013, 05:30:03 PMAlso, in rehard to davy, hahaha, whoops, I forgot the role I false claimed! I seem to have grown a fancy for that since last game (I might have made that same mistake in my false claim to Yugi too; whoops!!!). My mistake; though, I don't really see why you would think I make such an outrageous mistake like that. I'm careless sometimes; look at last game and how my Seer claim to BlackDragonSlayer occurred at the eleventh hour.
Claiming late is something completely different from claiming different roles. And while I could see you being a human with this defence, this is also exactly the thing I would aspect a wolf or zombie to use in his defense, so I'll keep my vote on you.
Going to Florida tomorrow so I'll be gone for the entire day.
But I'll have a computer down there so I'll be active after tomorrow. ^^;
Inactivity, blah blah blah. Spring break just started, so I AM GOING TO BE HERE OK
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 22, 2013, 08:11:33 AMI'm going to keep my vote on Waddle until someone else turns up suspicious.
I'm not even sure if FSM could provide a good enough defence for Waddle because they are different people .
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 22, 2013, 08:19:31 AMI'm not even sure what should I defend myself against!
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 22, 2013, 08:34:15 AMi do not no
What? If you cant think of something for FSM to defend himself against, then why do you have your vote on him? You're basically saying "I'm want to lynch you but I have no actual reason at all". I personally feel that since FSM is essentially a new person, we should keep him alive for longer so we can actually see what he does, not what his previous inactive person did. I was holding off my vote on you earlier, but really.
TBWCW.About Thiannon, I don't really know his playing style, Bird says hes meticulous, and TZP says hes "a better player than this". And adding spitllama to the suspicious part of his suspicion list? Bird brings up a good point if Thiannon is as good as people are saying he is.
I agree with davy in that Day 1 is a little early to make a suspicion list that's actually effective. If I had to pick my top three, I would probably say TBWBW, Thiannon, and wolf/K-night, the latter two being just for inactivity reasons. This is Day 1 however, which means that none of these are particularly strong, just stronger than the others
I'm sorry for my inactivity. Solo/Ensemble contest is tomorrow and I am literally in 14 things. I will have more time to play after tomorrow, I hope.
Hrm... although, like you said, Bubbles tends to be inactive when she's a wolf (or the Meta :P), it seems as if she was preoccupied; if this inactivity continues, I think she would make a good Day 2 lynch, but at the current moment, it wouldn't be such a good idea to bandwagon on ANYBODY so hastily.
Bubbles, for now.
Given everything that's happened, I'm going to vote Mashi
Vote count:
SocialFox- Mashi
Davy- Waddle Bro/FSM Mashi
TZP- Waddle Bro/FSM Bubbles
Waddle Bro/FSM- Yugi Maestro
TBWCW- Waddle Bro/FSM
Dude- TZP
Thiannon- Bubbles
K-Night- TBWCW
Blueflower- Bubbles
Bubbles- TBWCW
Bird- Bubbles
Maestro- Mashi
People who have yet to vote: BlackDragonSlayer, Mashi, Wolf.
Neither Mashi nor Bubbles seems to be a very good pick at this point (for reasons I have stated earlier, etc. etc. :P).
I'm really conflicted in my head who else I should vote for. My spider-sense Dragon Slayer-sense is telling me to be wary of Maestro... and I certainly don't want to cause a KiTB by voting for Mashi (plus, I doubt he's a wolf/zombie in the first place)...
So, until I can completely make up my mind, or the phase ends before I do:
Safety on Davy
Quote from: davy on March 22, 2013, 02:37:38 PMAnd while I could see you being a human with this defence, this is also exactly the thing I would aspect a wolf or zombie to use in his defense, so I'll keep my vote on you.
so no matter what my defence is, youre keeping your vote on me???
I'm also rather conflicted about a Bubbles7689 lynch. I'm not sure if she can be deemed as inactive simply for not posting much for two Phases. The reason I suspected her last game was not solely due to inactivity (though, I'll admit that it was a factor), but because she gave me a suspicious feeling when I PMed her (her believing in my allegation that the Guardian was still alive, for example). To be frank, I would prefer a MaestroUGC lynch over her, considering that he seemed to have given a copout bandwagon vote on me for no explained reason. I'm not sure if he was in a rush or something of the like when making the post, but I would imagine he mention it if he were.
But anyhow, I'll be in the #TWGNSM chat until the Phase ends and vote in a bit. BlackDragonSlayer, you should come!!!
Also, sorry for not posting a suspicion list yesterday! I had a lot of tests today and fell asleep while studying yesterday.
I've thought about it for a bit and have decided to vote for
MaestroUGC. I'm more suspicious of him than Bubbles7689 at the moment, and Bubbles7689 doesn't seem to be anything but mundane (in the TWGing sense, not personally!) from the chat I had with her. She doesn't even seem to care about dying, and if my past experiences hold true, Humans are much more inclined to 'giving up' than Wolves or other third party Roles.
MaestroUGCSpoiler
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BlackDragonSlayer Quack quack Mashi.
Mashi Yaaay.
Mashi Ducks are cool.
Mashi omg
Mashi genius idea
Mashi i am going to make a game
Mashi with a duck role
Mashi blackdragonslayer thx
Mashi you are my inspiration
Mashi TWG: Duck, Duck, Goose
Mashi Yes
Mashi ANYWAY.
Mashi Suspicions???
BlackDragonSlayer I had an idea where the humans' powers are based off of their activity for the first Night and Day phases, and activitated Night 2.
BlackDragonSlayer And the wolves' powers are based off of how many humans have their powers activated.
Mashi How would you go about that?
Mashi Do you mean, they choose to activate a power?
BlackDragonSlayer Depending on how active people are, for example.
Mashi How would that be gauged?
BlackDragonSlayer They're assigned a role, for example, vigi, or miller, with an unactivated power; they're not told what until it's activated.
Mashi How will it be activated?
BlackDragonSlayer Depending on how "productive" they are, or active, during the first day and night phases, their power is either activated or left inactive.
BlackDragonSlayer For example, if you just go around posting pictures of stuff and not doing much else, your power will be left unactivated.
BlackDragonSlayer However, the more humans that have their powers activated, the more powerful the wolves become.
Mashi Hahaha.
BlackDragonSlayer It might work out; it would take a long time to balance, though.
Mashi Interesting idea, but I would imagine it difficult to choose whether to activate a power objectively.
Mashi Yeah, it's a good idea though.
Mashi It'll motivate people to actually participate!
BlackDragonSlayer Muhuhuhu.
BlackDragonSlayer Anyway, onto suspicions: For some reason, I feel wary of Maestro.
Mashi Yes, I concur.
Mashi I didn't like his random vote on me especially!!!
BlackDragonSlayer And Blueflower seems a bit suspicious, especially because he was just barely active enough (or so I thought) the first night...
Mashi Speaking of which, anyhow
BlackDragonSlayer If he were the totem guy, he could use the fact that no totem was posted to lie low.
Mashi Do you think the Totem Zombie is inactive or chose not to write a totem?
Mashi Oh, right, the Totem one was the Guy.
Mashi lol
BlackDragonSlayer It could be either; I'm guessing that he chose not to, though, since it wouldn't prove of much value at this point, when his main objective is to stay alive.
Mashi I keep thinking Zombie Guy, Grave Robber, and Totem Zombie.
Mashi I haven't really looked towards blueflower999 with much interest yet, to be honest, he's mostly neutral to me.
Mashi Thread rereading timeee.
BlackDragonSlayer Asides from those people, though, there don't seem to be too many suspicious folks yet.
Mashi It's Day 1, so it's understandable.
BlackDragonSlayer For some reason, I feel more conflicted than I usually do.
BlackDragonSlayer I think the last couple of games dulled my sense a bit when it came to suspicions:
Mashi That's good!
BlackDragonSlayer As Jekyll/Hyde, I had no reason to form suspicions, except to find Dr. Doom.
Mashi Remember my TWG Golden Rule???
Mashi The more confident you are, the more likely you're wrong!
BlackDragonSlayer As a wolf, obviously, all I had to do was try and cover for myself.
BlackDragonSlayer And, most recently, I died very early.
BlackDragonSlayer But you're right: especially in a game with 16 players, things might move very slowly at first.
Mashi Bird needs to show up already!!!
BlackDragonSlayer I generally find that chats are among the best ways to find out if people are wolves or not: maybe we should, on day 2, try to get as many people in here as possible.
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BlackDragonSlayer Because they're spontaneous, and people are more likely to let something slip.
BlackDragonSlayer Quack quack bubbles.
Mashi Bubbles7689!!!
bubbles quack
bubbles Maestro just made my brain explode
bubbles hes got some hard puzzles
Mashi Hmm?
bubbles fiwrttyyu,yrbrnwdhrt.
bubbles and i decoded it
bubbles because im smart
Mashi Sounds boring!!!
bubbles
bubbles Its been about 45 minutes
Mashi You could have been TWGing those 45 minutes!!!
bubbles D:
bubbles but PUZZLES
Mashi That's not a puzzle, that's a waste of time!
bubbles
Mashi A puzzle isn't something that requires one to painstakingly think of various possibilities of some sort of scenario or circumstance.
bubbles Its using phoenetics though
Mashi The idea is the same.
bubbles so it says "If I were to try you, your brain would hurt"
bubbles apparently ::)
BlackDragonSlayer There were ducks in our pool earlier today; I think they were the same ones as last year.
Mashi
bubbles What do you guys think of Thiannon putting spitllama in his "most suspicious" part of his suspicion list?
BlackDragonSlayer Not sure...
BlackDragonSlayer It doesn't seem "very legit" at first, but still...
bubbles I really dont see how you could properly analyze the players and make that mistake
bubbles just putting that out there, because apparently Im going to die
BlackDragonSlayer
BlackDragonSlayer Poor bubbles. D:
Mashi If it means anything, I'm not very suspicious of you!
bubbles oh and mashi btw
bubbles Defense is with an s
BlackDragonSlayer Unless he didn't see that Spitllama died... or he COULD be a zombie...
Mashi In America.
Mashi Not Britain.
bubbles If he didnt see that spitllama died, then he didnt see the end of night 1
bubbles which means he hjad virtually no info to go on
bubbles official info that is
BlackDragonSlayer Or he could've just glanced over the post(s) rather quickly.
bubbles official meaning confirmed
bubbles I need to type better
bubbles In america?
bubbles But you live in america
Mashi Also, while we're correcting grammar mistakes.
Mashi "If I had to pick my top three, I would probably say TBWBW, Thiannon, and wolf/K-night, the latter two being just for inactivity reasons."
bubbles
Mashi Former and latter are only ever used for two subjects.
bubbles that was an odd sentence
bubbles but you NEVER make a mistake
bubbles catching you is almost as rare as catching maestro!
Mashi Well, objects, in this case.
Mashi I maek mistakes all the time.
Mashi
Mashi brb
bubbles where is everyone
bubbles there usually a party right before the end of a day phase
BlackDragonSlayer We can't stop here.
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoS0Qd9QFOU&feature=player_embedded
BlackDragonSlayer Poor Bloop has no views. D:
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Y447mzPV0
BlackDragonSlayer Somebody needs to arrange that.
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gXoHYmte0s
BlackDragonSlayer I'm working on arranging THAT as part of a project... it's going to take a long time.
BlackDragonSlayer *personal project
bubbles dratini is 5 foot 11
BlackDragonSlayer To get some Heroes of Might and Magic music on this site!
bubbles how
bubbles thats scary
BlackDragonSlayer Dratini is a snake-like Pokemon... so...
bubbles Im sorry Im listening
BlackDragonSlayer Not really tiny, though.
bubbles well thats still huge
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGBh_3J25g
BlackDragonSlayer Somebody NEEDS to arrange that.
bubbles i would if i didnt suck at arranging
BlackDragonSlayer I know.
BlackDragonSlayer I would arrange it, if I didn't suck at arranging.
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQeLs9TX2JA
BlackDragonSlayer And that as well.
BlackDragonSlayer Always a good thing.
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjdqz00bs4
BlackDragonSlayer Simply amazing.
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMODqEAYAsI
BlackDragonSlayer That was recent. Wow!
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PLruFRPo-k
BlackDragonSlayer SHEET MUSIC!
BlackDragonSlayer Ermahgerd! Shreet mursic!
BlackDragonSlayer ERMAHGERD SHERT MAHSERC
BlackDragonSlayer According to the "translator"
BlackDragonSlayer Bubbles?
BlackDragonSlayer Did I scare you off?
BlackDragonSlayer Mashi?
bubbles i here
BlackDragonSlayer Yaay.
BlackDragonSlayer Only two more videos:
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4zi24wXEWk
Mashi Back.
BlackDragonSlayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t54R-aIPlqc
BlackDragonSlayer Last one!
Mashi Are we going to discuss TWG???
BlackDragonSlayer I suppose, now that we're all here again.
Mashi So, suspicions???
Mashi psst bubbles
bubbles I cant tell if Im actually suspicious of TBWCW or his obscurity is just making me mad
bubbles and thiannon for reasons stated above
BlackDragonSlayer My "top 3 suspicious people": Maestro, Blueflower, Thiannon.
BlackDragonSlayer Not in any order.
bubbles Why blueflower?
BlackDragonSlayer Because his patterns of activity so-far mean that he might be the Totem Guy, or at least I think so.
BlackDragonSlayer Barely active enough, to the point where he could use the fact that he didn't send in a totem to his advantage.
BlackDragonSlayer At least, I saw it as "barely active enough."
bubbles I dont really understand the point of a totem
BlackDragonSlayer Yeah; that's why I said he might be able to use it to his advantage without sacrificing any valuable information.
BlackDragonSlayer Then again, if I were the totem, I could use it to hunt down the wolves.
Mashi How would you do that?
BlackDragonSlayer Find out who the wolves are, then post the names of, at most, two (since I don't want just the humans to win).
BlackDragonSlayer Craftily find out. Deduce.
Mashi
Mashi This chat hasn't been particularly fruitful.
bubbles I know
bubbles I gotta go but Ill still be on nsm
bubbles byee
bubbles woah
bubbles Ill looks like lllllllll
bubbles llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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BlackDragonSlayer Goodbye now.
BlackDragonSlayer
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Maestro isn't playing!
Anyway, Mashi/Bubbles are both kool w/ me
Eek; you even included the videos! :o
Quote from: Bird on March 22, 2013, 08:43:28 PMMaestro isn't playing!
He's number 3 on the player list... though he's not very active. D:
Bubbles got lynched, night phase ends tomorrow night at 10:00 PM PST, 1:00 AM EST.
Bubbles and spitllama, it would be appreciated if you could make death posts ASAP.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 21, 2013, 11:20:07 AMBubbles for now, because of an uncharacteristically small amount of activity. Last time she did this, she was the Meta.
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 22, 2013, 01:12:36 PMThe last time Bubbles was quiet like this was when she was the Meta.
Why did you say almost the exact same things.
i am the master wolf
i am the wolf shaman
i am the wolf totem
i am the zombie leader
i am the grave robber
and i'm also the totem guy
fsm
We found the totem guy guys!!! Take him down!!!!
no plz
im also the vigi
Yay
Anyone else up for a gif war while we wait? :P
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First person to guess all of these gets to host the next game.
Come to chat guys, you should be going all the time and not just when people say so!
http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.NFnet.org&channel=#TWGNSM
Quack.
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Eario! :D
Relating more to the game, I think we should wait until Day 2, and THEN get as many people as possible into the chat room... although that might be a bit confusing. :P
Wolves1.
Master Wolf2.
Wolf Shaman:
Does not get a death post3.
Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems.
Does not get a death postHumans4.
Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian.
Does not get a Death post5.
Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6.
Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night.
Begins with the Magic Conch!7.
Human:
8.
Human: All human roles are the same.
9.
Human:
10.
Human:
11.
Human:
12.
Human:
13.
Human:
Zombies14.
Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night.
May not be revived. Does not know his partners.15.
Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life.
Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.16.
Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities.
Does not get a death post.
May not be revived. Does not know his partners.1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist27511. Bubbles768912. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Totem:
Quote
TheZeldaPianist275 died. It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends on March 25th at 11:59 PM EST.
So no one was revived.
Now what?
Quote from: Yugi on March 23, 2013, 10:07:42 PMSo no one was revived.
Now what?
The zombies must be inactive, which is good for us.
...which either means that they ARE inactive, or are really dedicated to getting us to wipe out all the inactives so that it'll make their victory easier. :P :P Probably the first option.
Yeah, zombies are inactive or dead. Which would be pretty cool.
Anyway, that phase worked out really well. As always, waiting on seer results before doing anything rash.
And if any of the dead players want to uh... prove their humanity, they should feel free to do so.
I already sent them a PM to do so.
Sorry for not being active yesterday, I was gone the entire day.
Quote from: Mashi on March 22, 2013, 06:58:47 PMso no matter what my defence is, youre keeping your vote on me???
No, if you could convince my that it was your strategy to counterclaim different roles, I would have removed my vote from you. However, I know that you are a good player, and I expect from you that you do not make mistakes like that, especially if making that mistake would be a good move if you were a zombie.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 24, 2013, 12:38:43 AMI already sent them a PM to do so.
FSM, this seems to me as dead-living talk, which is, as you should know, not allowed.
Oh, and Verm, I think you've forgotten wolf's phantom.
I am allowed to send the dead people PMs. They can't reply to me. That's the rule.
See? SEEEEEEEE? I'm positively human. (well, almost)
Confirming that FSM did send that PM. Interpret it how you want, but I'm inclined to think he/Waddle Bro is human.
Ugh, we have so little to go on this game.....
You could of told us your role :(
I'm pretty sure it's human, because no zombie or master wolf would claim themselves and it would be dumb to reveal that the guardian or seer is dead publicly.
*it'd
Looks like the Bubbles lynch wasn't a bad one after all. I was a little concerned that she didn't kick and scream all that much. (Aside: do players often kick and scream when they're being lynched on NSM?) Anyway, I'm back home and should be more active from here on.
Bird: I voted for Spitllama because he hadn't made a death post at that point (and still hasn't, of course). Credit goes to davy, I believe, for pointing that out. But that would be an amusing wolfibi for an inexperienced player.
K-Night: You struck me as someone who would disregard Bird's "kill from the bottom" directive. Also, you seemed inactive, not that I should be one to judge.
I'm leaning human on FSM/Waddle now. I'll have more later today.
Quote from: Thiannon on March 24, 2013, 09:10:20 AMK-Night: You struck me as someone who would disregard Bird's "kill from the bottom" directive. Also, you seemed inactive, not that I should be one to judge.
I'll admit I have been inactive. Solo/Ensemble contest kinda ruled my life this past week. I should have more time to be active starting now.
Mashi was seered purple.
Don't insta please.
Mashi.
Figured as much.
Grave Robber, Zombie Leader, claim to me. Someone guessed that I was Totem Guy, so I don't know your identities. I'll unite you two to zombify people.
If you both are simply paranoid for no reason, revive and zombify TheZeldaPianist275 next Night Phase.
Wolves, Guardian is dead, you should wolf Bird next Night Phase.
Oh, and for future reference, if you two don't unite (such as if I'm Insta'd before then), just zombify whoever is dead by going down the Player list from the top. So, if Yugi and Thiannon were dead, for example, you would zombify Yugi, since he's higher. If BlackDragonSlayer were dead, you would zombify him instead.
Sorry for playing so poorly, you two! Messed up badly when I messed up a claim to Yugi. I wanted to be able to make it so that I could say I was false claiming that too, but I really butchered that! My mistake; good luck you two!
Hmm... perhaps this could have been handled better. As in, with vigis.
I'm really off my game lately!
Also, insta him.
Haha, don't worry, Bird, that makes two of us.
Also, going to take a random guess that K-NiGhT is the Seer.
o no i'm cawt. mashi u r too smaurt for me.
No, Insta Bird!!!
Also, in regard to the zombifying; to be perfectly clear, zombify TheZeldaPianist275 and then move on to the zombifying plan. spitllama was Guardian and Bubbles7689 was a Wolf, so skip them for the plan!
Ninja'd: Yeah, probably should wolf K-NiGhT too.
inb4 spit/bubbles was grave robber and zombie leader is going to waste his time biting corpses for rest of game
If either of them were, I would be seered Green and be informed of one of their deaths.
Nice try, Bird!
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It seems to me that Bird has become an...
Angry Bird.
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Hey Wolves, if I make a few suggestions.
Wolf Bird, K-NiGhT, and then Thiannon in that order. You should also seer K-NiGhT and Thiannon also; I'm thinking one of the two is the Seer; leaning towards K-NiGhT still.
Was going to save my death post till a more opportune time that could maybe offer some information, but looks like that can't happen now.
Yes. I have a death post. So there. I am/was a regular human.
:'(
Never mind about spitllama being Guardian dead. Just wolf whoever then, I guess, Wolves!
Thanks, spitllama!!!
It looks like I missed quite a lot while I was sleeping!
Mashi
Zombies and Wolves, you'll probably have to team up together to beat the Humans, since the Humans have suspects for a Wolf and Zombie due to the Magic Conch (possibly more, if Bird lied to me).
i know everyone's role
Plot Twist: Bird is also a Zombie.
bird it doesn't really matter if you tell the wolves to team up or whatever
bird all they can do is kill players, and i doubt they'll be able to determine which players are human and which players are zombies
Good point.
Wolves and Zombies, all of you should claim to me. I'll be able to coordinate the kills so that you don't accidentally kill each other while trying to pummel the Humans. I promise also that I won't reveal the Wolves's identities to the Zombies. It's cheap of me to use underhand tactics like a promise (I don't break my promises), but this is a desperate time in TWG!!!
yeah great idea, definitely do that wolves
But actually, only claim to Mashi if you really want the zombie team to win. Otherwise you're an idiot.
Hey, I don't break promises! That's why this is the first time I've done it in a TWG! I don't want people to say "omg mashi promise you're human" because that would just make it obvious that I'm a Wolf when I don't!!!
And Wolves, I'll try to make the coordinated kills neutral and make sure not to be revealing. Humans are in the running for victory right now, so I think it's better to team up.
I understand if you don't trust me though. It's unconventional to trust an opponent like this. But if any of you know me at all, you'll know that I wouldn't break a promise (ergo, why I don't make promises in TWG; otherwise, it would be obvious that I was a Wolf if I didn't promise I was Human!).
So if you do claim to me, you're not an idiot. If you don't, you're still not an idiot. Bird is just being harsh!
The reason its dumb for the wolves to claim to the Zombies is because the Zombies are the most powerful team at the moment.
Yeah.
They're going to be raising a Zombie-aligned vigilante every single phase from Night 3 onwards. I don't think I'm revealing too much by saying I don't have a lot of vigis remaining, so we're going to have to devote our lynches to taking down the resurrected players each phase. We might be able to find one of the zombies with the magic conch, but it's still not super likely.
And not only that, even if you (the wolves) "team up" with the zombies in order to defeat the humans, this is a stupid way to do it. When the zombies know each other, they are a much bigger threat than the wolves. And you're only making that advantage larger by having it so they know you but you don't know them!
Evil Mashi up to his old tricks again.
I'm not going to tell my Zombie Partners who the Wolves are. That's what I promised, so I have to keep it!
But anyway, if you think Zombies are going to be all powerful, that's up to you. To be honest, I feel that we're rather crippled currently, but that's just me. Do as you wish, anyhow.
How can they work together without knowing each other?
They would just do whatever Mashi said.
So dumb.
do whatever Mashi said and dominate the Human Team*
Doing what Mashi said will certainly lead to the human team's defeat.
But it will also set the wolves up for a crushing defeat against the zombies. That's why I'm arguing that the wolves revealing themselves to the Zombies is a stupid move.
So I read through the thread quick
Mashi
Just two more votes.
Also it's insanely stupid for the wolves to claim to Mashi.
Don't do it wuffs.
I think that the end of the game would rely more on chance in that regard, to be honest Bird, favouring the Wolves (or maybe a tie? Not sure how it would work) since I would imagine it be more likely for one Zombie to remain than one Wolf.
Our priority is eliminating the zombies at this point... poor wolves, becoming the second priority... :P
Anyhow, to be clear. The plan is to zombify people in this order, Zombies:
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
If a Player is living or has no death post, skip him/her.
Yay I'm last
<3
Everybody needs to false claim to Mashi as a zombie or a wolf.
Why didn't I say this earlier I'm so dumb!!!!
Quote from: Bird on March 24, 2013, 11:48:14 AMEverybody needs to false claim to Mashi as a zombie or a wolf.
I hope my PM doesn't seem too fake! ::)
:P
Mashi
bird hey mashi
bird i'm the grave robber
bird just fyi
Lynch Bird, not me!!!
By the way, everyone, if anyone wants to be a Zombie Follower (and possibly join the Zombie Team; I'm iffy on that though. Need Host confirmation), PM me and I'll see what I can do. I know the Wolves and Zombies now, so I can pull some strings.
No one should Insta me until I have the order of zombification. :(
It's one vote more, so if someone ends up ruining someone else's possible win, blame that someone!!!
how is this insta taking so long anyway, jesus
oh right its because maestro came online, read the thread, then didn't vote
Only one Wolf has claimed to me. My promise, however, only stated that I wouldn't reveal the Wolves's identities to the Zombies. No mention of the Human Team.
Shall I barter this identity for my life!?!
no
bird maybe being rude isn't the solution to this problem
Mashi
Mashi Yeah, it sounds like a jerk thing to reveal the Wolf.
Mashi I think the promise sort of curtailed no revealing whatsoever anyway, even if it weren't clearly stated.
Mashi wait no thats not the right word
Mashi curtailed revealing*
Mashi or connoted no revealing
Mashi Whichever.
We already settled this. I'm not a jerk!!! :(
Damn, shouldn't have wasted time reading. Mashi.
yay
I-I-I-INSTAAAAAAAAA
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Mashi was I-I-I-INSTAAAAAA'd. It is now Night 3. Night 3 ends on March 25th at 11:59 PM EST.
<3 that Verm.
Holy shit what.
:-[
Just a little too late! Mashi is always wuff
Note to all: Read what has been happening.
If any humans false claimed a role to Mashi, please tell me what that role was through a PM. Thanks.
So based on how I read Mashi's post if zombifying targets, today's Zombie target will be TheZeldaPianist.
What was that post for FSM?
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 24, 2013, 04:29:28 PMI said this just in case someone would be really stupid and not bother to read Mashi's post. We could possibly get TZP revived without the doubt that he'd be a follower. I thought that was worth a shot.
thx 4 ruining it
How would that get TZP revived without the doubt that he'd be a follower? Wouldn't a post like that just get the zombie master and grave robber to target the same player, effectively ensuring that TZP was revived as a follower?
I was just trying to help!
Geez Bird, chill out a bit.
It looks like you were trying to help out the zombie team.
I can't see how a post like that would possibly be beneficial to the humans.
idk
I would really appreciate it if you would explain yourself. Even if it seems dumb in hindsight, what logic led you to think that "we could possibly get TZP revived without the doubt that he'd be a follower," by making that post?
I'm planning on using my power tonight. I have two uses left, and I don't want to make a big mistake due to poor communication.
I'll be out of town today so I'll explain tomorrow when I get back.
You just made another post, surely you have time to explain yourself.
Quote from: Bird on March 24, 2013, 04:52:46 PMYou just made another post, surely you have time to explain yourself.
I think I can sort of explain it:
It's likely that the zombies clearly read Mashi's post; they're going to revive TZP either way. However, not all humans may have read it, especially the more-inactive ones; they may become more confused if TZP is revived and we need to lynch him.
???
Still doesn't make much sense, though...
He's acting extremely odd.
The original post didn't make sense, he's dodging explanations, and I saw him sending and receiving PMs after Mashi claimed (which he didn't explain to me until after my post (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5452.msg205213#msg205213)). On top of all of that, I keep getting weird PMs from him that don't make any sense. I haven't said anything in response to him, yet I keep getting messages that say things like "Do you have their claims?" and "Not yet, sorry! I'd have to look like a wolf to make that work the best as possible." This, coupled with the fact that Mashi said he received both Zombie claims between his original "I'm the Totem" post and an IRC chat two hours later makes me think that FSM is probably a zombie.
So what do we do if someone is revived?
Mashi
Oh shit, I didn't notice the rest of the pages.
Reading... Please wait warmly...
Quote from: Dude on March 24, 2013, 09:03:30 PMOh shit, I didn't notice the rest of the pages.
Reading... Please wait warmly...
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The more you know!
Quote from: Yugi on March 24, 2013, 09:03:35 PMgj dude
thx yugi
Not really much to say that hasn't been said already so...
Someone text me tomorrow to tell me to be active because I totally forgot until just a few minutes ago.
Wolves1.
Master Wolf2.
Wolf Shaman:
Does not get a death post3.
Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems.
Does not get a death postHumans4.
Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian.
Does not get a Death post5.
Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6.
Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night.
Begins with the Magic Conch!7.
Human:
8.
Human: All human roles are the same.
9.
Human:
10.
Human:
11.
Human:
12.
Human:
13.
Human:
Zombies14.
Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night.
May not be revived. Does not know his partners.15.
Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life.
Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.16.
Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities.
Does not get a death post.
May not be revived. Does not know his partners.1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT10. TheZeldaPianist27511. Bubbles768912. Bird
13. Mashi14. Dude15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Totem:
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The conch is silent! K-NiGhT died. Dude died. Spitllama un-died. It is now Day 3. Day 3 ends on March 27th at 11:59 PM EST.
Spitllama I guess?
I made a mistake in the first posting of the update, but I've fixed it. Dude died as well.
Sorry spitllama, but I must assume that you're a zombie follower. D:
Verm are players notified if they're a zombie follower?
Players are not notified of being a zombie follower.
Let's not lynch spitllama just yet.
Also, Dude and k-NiGhT, please make death posts if you're human.
Sorry guys, but because of some stuff going on in my life, I'm going to drop out.
I can still frequent the board for a while, do some random stuff, put games in Hosting/Balancing.
I might come back to playing at TWG 52.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 25, 2013, 09:06:15 PM1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
everyone around Bird dies
we have to guard wolf tonight
Quote from: Yugi on March 25, 2013, 10:55:32 PMwe have to guard wolf tonight
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Hate to have left everyone hanging for so long regarding alliance information, but I'll be revealing a good bit later in this phase. I'm just waiting on death posts (the relevant parties have been PM'd), and seer results.
Quote from: Yugi on March 25, 2013, 10:55:32 PMwe have to guard wolf tonight
As in me or the werewolf?
Yes wolf. We are guarding the werewolves.
We shall stop the people that we are trying to kill from dying.
Ok.
Quote from: Yugi on March 26, 2013, 01:24:34 AMYes wolf. We are guarding the werewolves.
We shall stop the people that we are trying to kill from dying.
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Throw logic out of the window.
Guh. I was a human this round. Not sure what else to put in this post.
Just a check-in post from me. I'll be around tonight for the fireworks.
If anybody can text Dude asking for a death post, that would be way kool.
Come to the chat ducks! (and Birds ;) )
http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.NFnet.org&channel=#TWGNSM
Hi
Thanks Dude.
And I believe I said that I would be revealing some information later this phase. Well, here goes:
The Magic Conch started with me. I gave it to the Guardian, who gave it to Davy. Davy was one of the two players who had claimed seer; after he correctly seered Mashi to be purple, I figured he was the more trustworthy of the two. It turns out, I was totally wrong! The Conch released no names meaning that Davy is a wolf. Or the Wolf Shaman, more accurately. And since Bubbles has still not made a death post, it's probably safe to say that she was the Wolf Totem. Since all the non-green roles are confirmed at this point, the seer results really don't matter, but I guess here they are anyway.
Spoiler
MaestroUGC - Green
BlackDragonSlayer - Green
wolf - Green
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 26, 2013, 01:51:48 PMRIP Dude. D:
So... who are we lynching??
A zombie, preferably. Our options are either to kill the revived player every single phase (since he'll just keep reviving) or to try and get rid of the zombie leader/grave robber. The latter is definitely the better option. Killing the zombie leader would be awesome since after he dies, spitllama can be a regular human again. I think it would be wise to focus our attention on the zombies rather than on the wolves (aka Davy) since the wolves are not much of a threat at this point. Additionally, even if we lynched Davy right now, they would get another kill tonight. But right now we have a chance to completely stop the zombie team in their tracks, and I think it would be advisable to take it. That goes for the wolves as well: if you know anything about the identities of the zombies, please share it.
We'll have two shots to get a zombie. Today's lynch and I'll use my second Vigi this night phase.
We also have a few hints as to who the zombies might be. He let this slip in the chatroom approximately two hours after his original "claim to me" post. Times are in CDT.
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(1:50:00 PM) Mashi: Yeah, it's a bit too late for that, unfortunately.
(1:50:06 PM) Mashi: Sorry, Bird!
(1:50:21 PM) bird: i don't think it's too late
(1:50:27 PM) bird: or is it
(1:50:30 PM) bird: do you know both of the zombies
(1:50:34 PM) Mashi: Fine by me.
(1:50:42 PM) Mashi: It'll only hinder me from knowing the Wolves.
(1:50:44 PM) Mashi: Yeah.
(1:50:50 PM) bird: so they were both online
(1:50:51 PM) bird: i see
(1:50:56 PM) bird: ty for the info
(1:51:03 PM) Mashi: Oh, whoops.
(1:51:05 PM) Mashi: lol
Which I think significantly narrows the pool of possible zombies. I've identified three players who I think are most likely to have been partners with Mashi. Each case has evidence for and evidence against the partnership.
1. FSM-Reapr:
- Was online in the appropriate time window.
- I saw him checking his messages after I saw Mashi sending a message in the aforementioned time window.
- Put a lot of effort into not getting wolfed for no real reason (tried to make himself look suspicious on purpose since he was worried he'd be killed).
- BUT, he's been helpful and active this entire game.
- AND, he sent me a PM containing his "false claim" to Mashi, along with Mashi's response. Could have been faked though, I suppose.
2. MaestroUGC:
- Was online in the appropriate time window.
- Checked the thread in the appropriate time window, but decided not to vote for Mashi.
- Has been really inactive and not super helpful this entire game.
- BUT, when BlackDragonSlayer told me about his extremely fake Zombie Master claim to Mashi, Mashi responded with something along the lines of "Great, Maestro is your zombie partner,"
3. Yugi:
- May have been online in the appropriate time window.
- I could see his original grave robber claim being legitimate. He actually claims the role, then tells me he's fake claiming. If he doesn't get claims, he looks human, and if he does, he just says he didn't get any claims. It' a clever way of assembling a team in the beginning, and strikes me as very Yugi.
So yeah. Pick 2.
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And that's what I got.
Have another idea? Think it's stupid we're going for zombies rather than a confirmed wolf? Speak up about it.
Quote from: Bird on March 26, 2013, 03:38:20 PM1. FSM-Reapr:
- Was online in the appropriate time window.
- I saw him checking his messages after I saw Mashi sending a message in the aforementioned time window.
- Put a lot of effort into not getting wolfed for no real reason (tried to make himself look suspicious on purpose since he was worried he'd be killed).
- BUT, he's been helpful and active this entire game.
- AND, he sent me a PM containing his "false claim" to Mashi, along with Mashi's response. Could have been faked though, I suppose.
2. MaestroUGC:
- Was online in the appropriate time window.
- Checked the thread in the appropriate time window, but decided not to vote for Mashi.
- Has been really inactive and not super helpful this entire game.
- BUT, when BlackDragonSlayer told me about his extremely fake Zombie Master claim to Mashi, Mashi responded with something along the lines of "Great, Maestro is your zombie partner,"
3. Yugi:
- May have been online in the appropriate time window.
- I could see his original grave robber claim being legitimate. He actually claims the role, then tells me he's fake claiming. If he doesn't get claims, he looks human, and if he does, he just says he didn't get any claims. It' a clever way of assembling a team in the beginning, and strikes me as very Yugi.
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And that's what I got.
Have another idea? Think it's stupid we're going for zombies rather than a confirmed wolf? Speak up about it.
I think that we should lynch FSM, and you should vigi Maestro, and then we should go after the wolves; this gives a high probability that, since in my opinion, they're the most likely zombie candidates, we'll be able to eliminate them (even if we only kill one zombie, the other can't really do much, right?).
Changing vote to FSM-Reapr.
Kill ALL the people around Bird!! :o
I agree with the FSM lynch. Vigi Yugi.
UGH.
I've been talking to Thiannon, and he's totally right. Regarding Mashi's claim that he knew both his partners already:
(10:02:29 PM) Thiannon: Do you necessarily trust Mashi on that, though?
How could he be sure he had united his team when at least 5 players hadn't even been online? Why would he post an order of zombification if they knew each other? It doesn't necessarily add up, especially since there's a lot of evidence going against the only people online at the appropriate time to be zombies.
So if we want to kill a zombie (or the master wolf I guess), it's coming from this list of 8 players:
BlackDragonSlayer
Yugi
MaestroUGC
Thiannon
The Boy Who Cried Wolf
blueflower999
wolf
FSM-Reapr
Important question: Has Yugi actually dropped out? Why is he still posting? If he submits a power usage, will it go through?
Until I can find a replacement for him, he still is fully in the game. By that I mean he can be lynched, use powers if any are applicable, and vote.
worst drop-out ever. Verm, could we also hear the order of operations with powers and stuff?
Also, Thiannon made another incredible insight that I had completely overlooked: Bubbles is just as likely to be the wolf totem as she is to be the Zombie Master. Which would be hilarious. This is just more reason to not to kill spitllama yet.
Quote from: Bird on March 26, 2013, 03:38:20 PM1. FSM-Reapr:
- Was online in the appropriate time window.
- I saw him checking his messages after I saw Mashi sending a message in the aforementioned time window.
- Put a lot of effort into not getting wolfed for no real reason (tried to make himself look suspicious on purpose since he was worried he'd be killed).
- BUT, he's been helpful and active this entire game.
- AND, he sent me a PM containing his "false claim" to Mashi, along with Mashi's response. Could have been faked though, I suppose.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 24, 2013, 07:11:31 PMThat didn't cross my mind. :< My main thing with that post was to make it just in case someone like wolf(that sounded so mean and I'd apologize him now if I could) would be another one of those zombies and didn't understand Mashi's post. He'd target TZP while the other one would target spitllama, making the revived one a human with no drawbacks. This was my way of thinking when I made that post. I know it's not that good of a defense, but it's the truth. (also it was 0:25 am when I made that post)
I was dodging explanations because I thought you were trying to make me look suspicious and I was trying to help you in it. Then you made this post and I realized that you were serious the entire time. Also I was sending PMs to Vermverm asking can the person who's revived be vigi'd the same phase he was revived. The answer was no btw. I was gone for three hours, from 20:30 to 23:30 German time. I haven't sent or received any other PMs that you have not seen. Except thisSpoiler
Spoiler
I replied to this PM. I was interested that was that were you assuming or did they send you their claims. I should have chosen my words better.
Spoiler
This was sent because I thought you were trying to make me look suspicious.
Spoiler
Now for the most cheesy part that sickens me to even say out loud because it's so cheesy.
I enjoy playing TWG a lot and frankly put it feels awesome to make all sorts of strategies and see when they work. I think this is the reason why I try so hard. Also it's the most fun I've had over the time I've been at the clinic. I don't want it to end. :(
That's all I got.
Good night, Bird. And Verm. I'll hit the bed.
Too lazy to actually make another defense so I copypasted this one.
If you subtract the "online at the right time stuff," Yugi looks like the best option. I think doing weird claim stuff like that is pretty typical of him, isn't it? As a bonus, he's dropping out anyway.
Bird and I discussed this, and I'm on board with the SocialFox/Yugi lynch.
Oh god the quotes do not come with a quote :<
Spoiler
Quote from: Bird on March 25, 2013, 01:40:07 AM
How would that get TZP revived without the doubt that he'd be a follower? Wouldn't a post like that just get the zombie master and grave robber to target the same player, effectively ensuring that TZP was revived as a follower?
That didn't cross my mind. :< My main thing with that post was to make it just in case someone like wolf(that sounded so mean and I'd apologize him now if I could) would be another one of those zombies and didn't understand Mashi's post. He'd target TZP while the other one would target spitllama, making the revived one a human with no drawbacks. This was my way of thinking when I made that post. I know it's not that good of a defense, but it's the truth. (also it was 0:25 am when I made that post)
Quote from: Bird on March 25, 2013, 02:20:34 AM
he's dodging explanations, and I saw him sending and receiving PMs after Mashi claimed (which he didn't explain to me until after my post).
I was dodging explanations because I thought you were trying to make me look suspicious and I was trying to help you in it. Then you made this post and I realized that you were serious the entire time. Also I was sending PMs to Vermverm asking can the person who's revived be vigi'd the same phase he was revived. The answer was no btw. I was gone for three hours, from 20:30 to 23:30 German time. I haven't sent or received any other PMs that you have not seen. Except this
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Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 24, 2013, 07:42:18 AM
Hi.
I know you're not allowed to say anything, but nothing I see prevents me from doing this PM.
You all should make death posts, all of you, asap.
Quote from: Bird on March 25, 2013, 02:20:34 AM
On top of all of that, I keep getting weird PMs from him that don't make any sense. I haven't said anything in response to him, yet I keep getting messages that say things like "Do you have their claims?" and "Not yet, sorry! I'd have to look like a wolf to make that work the best as possible."
1.
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Quote from: Bird on March 25, 2013, 01:51:50 AM
ugh. I don't know. And then he was acting really weird in the thread.
What I meant was that I thought that, maybe more than 3 people claimed, but I think the claimers that Mashi believed were: Maestro (as a wolf), FSM and k-NiGhT.
I replied to this PM. I was interested that was that were you assuming or did they send you their claims. I should have chosen my words better.
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This was sent because I thought you were trying to make me look suspicious.
Quote from: Bird on March 25, 2013, 02:38:55 AM
Your original plan didn't make any sense. Why would you be at risk of getting killed? Everybody was extremely suspicious of Waddle Bro on Day 1, and it doesn't look like you've done anything to make yourself look very human. You say you made a post that would make you look like a wolf. You say this post had a spelling error. I don't know what post you're talking about. Feel free to point it out to me, but all I see is tons of evidence pointing to you being a zombie.
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Quote from: Bird on March 22, 2013, 10:08:02 PM
Waddle Bro - Not sure why he was voted for, he seems very helpful so far. He introduced the idea of the vigi claiming, which was an excellent idea, and suggested that Yugi be lynched, which is also pretty helpful.
If the human alliance leader thinks I'm a human, I feel like I have a target on my back and if I was a wolf, I would go after the most active who seems human.
Now for the most cheesy part that sickens me to even say out loud because it's so cheesy.
I enjoy playing TWG a lot and frankly put it feels awesome to make all sorts of strategies and see when they work. I think this is the reason why I try so hard. Also it's the most fun I've had over the time I've been at the clinic. I don't want it to end. :(
That's all I got.
Good night, Bird. And Verm. I'll hit the bed.
Voting for
Maestro, since in his last game where he was a third-party role(and I hosted) he was one of the most active players and ended up being wolf shamaned. It was most likely because of his activity why he was seered. I think he learned his lesson and hasn't even posted once on this thread in this game(I think)! Also not voting for Mashi when he saw that he's trying to receive claims strikes me as insanely suspicious.
ninja'd x2
I don't want to bandwagon but I'll change my vote to him if I
really, really have to.
Yeah, he's my vigi pick.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 26, 2013, 09:17:49 PMVoting for Maestro, since in his last game where he was a third-party role(and I hosted) he was one of the most active players and ended up being wolf shamaned. It was most likely because of his activity why he was seered. I think he learned his lesson and hasn't even posted once on this thread in this game(I think)! Also not voting for Mashi when he saw that he's trying to receive claims strikes me as insanely suspicious.
;)
I seered him in that game because I was suspicious of him after a chat.
;)
Quote from: Bird on March 26, 2013, 09:06:28 PMIf you subtract the "online at the right time stuff," Yugi looks like the best option. I think doing weird claim stuff like that is pretty typical of him, isn't it? As a bonus, he's dropping out anyway.
I'm pretty sure if you were being truthful, this would be the first time I would have done this, so it can't be typical of me.
To me the Yugi claiming thing seems like something he would do as a human but probably not as a zombie.
Wait a minute... if Yugi is a zombie (specifically, the Grave Robber), then that probably means that FSM is the Zombie Leader, and Maestro is a human (but too inactive :P) who's inactivity was taken advantage of by Mashi. :P Remember that, according to Mashi, Maestro claimed Grave Robber.
However, if Maestro is a zombie, that probably means that the other, real zombie wasn't able to claim before Mashi was lynched.
Quote from: Bird on March 26, 2013, 08:23:50 PMUGH.
I've been talking to Thiannon, and he's totally right. Regarding Mashi's claim that he knew both his partners already:
(10:02:29 PM) Thiannon: Do you necessarily trust Mashi on that, though?
How could he be sure he had united his team when at least 5 players hadn't even been online? Why would he post an order of zombification if they knew each other? It doesn't necessarily add up, especially since there's a lot of evidence going against the only people online at the appropriate time to be zombies.
So if we want to kill a zombie (or the master wolf I guess), it's coming from this list of 8 players:
BlackDragonSlayer
Yugi
MaestroUGC
Thiannon
The Boy Who Cried Wolf
blueflower999
wolf
FSM-Reapr
Well, I'll only tell you all this, I'm not a zombie.
I'm actually going to go with FSM (I always seem to think you!)
I thought Waddle was strange at the start and FSM seems to be carrying on Waddle's personality.
Anyway, why would a human 'act' suspicious to save himself? You don't act suspicious to help your team. You be suspicious if you want to take the death for another role or to protect it. No human cares about his role. He must have some sort of power or special role.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 27, 2013, 05:46:38 AMI'm actually going to go with FSM (I always seem to think you!)
gee i wonder whyQuote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 27, 2013, 05:46:38 AMAnyway, why would a human 'act' suspicious to save himself? You don't act suspicious to help your team. You be suspicious if you want to take the death for another role or to protect it. No human cares about his role. He must have some sort of power or special role.
You do realize that when there's a less chance of a human being wolfed, a chance of a zombie being wolfed rises? No? Well now you do.
I already explained why I don't want to die, and I'm not going to repeat it because it's soo cheesy. A part of me would like to delete that part, lol.
If someone thinks I'm picking on FSM you can go away
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 27, 2013, 02:08:08 AMWait a minute... if Yugi is a zombie (specifically, the Grave Robber), then that probably means that FSM is the Zombie Leader, and Maestro is a human (but too inactive :P) who's inactivity was taken advantage of by Mashi. :P Remember that, according to Mashi, Maestro claimed Grave Robber.
However, if Maestro is a zombie, that probably means that the other, real zombie wasn't able to claim before Mashi was lynched.
If Maestro is a zombie, he likely did not claim to Mashi. I was stalking the who is online list pretty carefully during that period, and after he read the thread, he began reading other threads rather than sending a PM.
To those of you suspicious of FSM... do you really think that, if he were a zombie, he would have claimed to Mashi and then immediately afterwards created a false claim to Mashi to send to me? That's some incredible foresight that I don't think any TWG player in this game has.
And for some reason, I thought Yugi did some dumb claim stuff in another game, like Uprising Madness or something. Guess I was mistaken. The theory still holds, even if it isn't something Yugi's done in the past.
And did wolf just admit to being the master wolf?
About Wolf, I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to jump into it.
Wolf, if your the masterwolf claim to Bird and maybe you can help us kill 'em zombies!
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 27, 2013, 05:46:38 AMI thought Waddle was strange at the start and FSM seems to be carrying on Waddle's personality.
Anyway, why would a human 'act' suspicious to save himself? You don't act suspicious to help your team. You be suspicious if you want to take the death for another role or to protect it. No human cares about his role. He must have some sort of power or special role.
At first, Waddle and FSM seem to be really similar, but they have slightly different playing styles.
Quote from: Bird on March 27, 2013, 09:54:35 AMIf Maestro is a zombie, he likely did not claim to Mashi. I was stalking the who is online list pretty carefully during that period, and after he read the thread, he began reading other threads rather than sending a PM.
To those of you suspicious of FSM... do you really think that, if he were a zombie, he would have claimed to Mashi and then immediately afterwards created a false claim to Mashi to send to me? That's some incredible foresight that I don't think any TWG player in this game has.
And for some reason, I thought Yugi did some dumb claim stuff in another game, like Uprising Madness or something. Guess I was mistaken. The theory still holds, even if it isn't something Yugi's done in the past.
And did wolf just admit to being the master wolf?
But then, in that situation, there's still one zombie missing.
BDS, there is no harm for one zombie being loose for a while. First one of the zombies should be killed, then all the wolves and if the game doesn't end there(I'm not sure of the winning conditions, I'll check them after I finish this post), then the last zombie.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 27, 2013, 02:08:08 AMRemember that, according to Mashi, Maestro claimed Grave Robber.
Wait what?!
It matches with the PM Mashi sent to me when I false-claimed Grave Robber to him.
Quote from: Mashi on March 24, 2013, 12:40:24 PMYou're supposed to false claim Zombie Leader!!! I already have a Grave Robber claim!!!
I highly doubt Mashi would say something like this without a reason. I have a feeling he's trying to frame Maestro, because that PM didn't look like something Mashi would say. Idk, opinions people?
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 27, 2013, 02:16:10 PMWait what?!
It matches with the PM Mashi sent to me when I false-claimed Grave Robber to him.I highly doubt Mashi would say something like this without a reason. I have a feeling he's trying to frame Maestro, because that PM didn't look like something Mashi would say. Idk, opinions people?
Yep; I claimed Zombie Leader.
I even included a picture of the Mutant Enemy Logo:
Grrr Argh
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fscaled%2Flanding%2F135%2Fmylittlegrrarrghdude.png&hash=1d2a611c4565f120f2854c53c353c500d6dc61c4)
How authentic can a claim like that be... I mean, seriously! :P
Anyway, I think it's more likely that he didn't believe YOUR claim, unless he said something later to contradict it.
I thought about defending myself for a while, but that's stupid since no nsm player would not claim guardian to bird when they are guardian.
Bird
Quote from: davy on March 27, 2013, 03:28:43 PMI thought about defending myself for a while, but that's stupid since no nsm player would not claim guardian to bird when they are guardian.
Bird
What? Why are you voting for Bird if he is the alliance leader and vigilante? Are you admitting that you're a wolf? :P
I am in favor of an FSM lynch.
Voting for Yugi because I don't wanna dieeeeeeee
also it's now Yugi 3- me 4
You should at least give reasons why you voted for me so I'd at least have a chance to defend myself!
Also I'm the only one of those three who have actually posted a defense and I have the most votes.
You people are absolutely frivolous.
Defences are for shnubs.
Yugi
FSM won't be havin none of dat lynchin stuff.
FSM
Yugi - Spitllama FSM
BDS - Spitllama FSM-Reapr
spitllama - FSM-Reapr Yugi
Bird - Yugi
Thiannon - Yugi
FSM - Maestro Yugi
TBWCW - FSM
Davy - Bird
blueflower - FSM
Yugi - 4
FSM - 4
Bird - 1
Yugi, why are you so desperate not to get lynched. You wanted to drop out not long ago!
And none of the players who have voted for FSM have responded to the fact that FSM false claimed to Mashi.
Well there is evidence of FSM not being human, plus, his voting for me because he "doesn't want to dieeeeeeeeee" is pretty much bandwagoning.
And I'm still dropping out.
That was a reference to shadowkirby in 72 Hours Remaining.
btw if you're dropping out wouldn't it be best that you'd be lynched
just saying
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 27, 2013, 06:02:08 PMThat was a reference to shadowkirby in 72 Hours Remaining.
btw if you're dropping out wouldn't it be best that you'd be lynched
just saying
Well someone might want to play.
Plus if that were true you wouldn't be here.
Quote from: Bird on March 27, 2013, 05:30:56 PMYugi, why are you so desperate not to get lynched. You wanted to drop out not long ago!
And none of the players who have voted for FSM have responded to the fact that FSM false claimed to Mashi.
So... you're saying that Yugi, if he's a human (although I doubt it a little), should drop out with a bang (e.g. being lynched) and potentially harm the human team?? :P
About the second part: How do we know if he really
false claimed to Mashi?? He might have just told you that; for all we know, he could have been in cohorts with Mashi and the other zombie (assuming that Maestro is NOT a zombie), unless there's more information that you can use to prove he's human?
You know what, I have a grand idea!!!
How about, we lynch one of them, and then vigi the other (e.g. lynch FSM, and vigi Yugi :P). That way, we can be pretty much 100% certain that we've got the Zombie Leader. If Maestro is the Grave Robber, then somebody might get revived, but nobody else will die! Understand my logic??
It's a crazy plan, yes... but it just MIGHT work!!! :P
that is a horrible plan
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 27, 2013, 06:45:51 PMSo... you're saying that Yugi, if he's a human (although I doubt it a little), should drop out with a bang (e.g. being lynched) and potentially harm the human team?? :P
About the second part: How do we know if he really false claimed to Mashi?? He might have just told you that; for all we know, he could have been in cohorts with Mashi and the other zombie (assuming that Maestro is NOT a zombie), unless there's more information that you can use to prove he's human?
Because he sent it in very late and got a fake-claim-response type of response from Mashi. Like "FSM, I you were supposed to claim Zombie Master!!! I already have a Grave Digger Claim!!!!" or something.
It's just a lot easier to believe that he sent in a fake claim than it is to believe he sent in a real claim, got a response, then got a fake response to share with the thread.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure he's human.
Me no like KitB :(
Quote from: Bird on March 27, 2013, 07:15:54 PMBecause he sent it in very late and got a fake-claim-response type of response from Mashi. Like "FSM, I you were supposed to claim Zombie Master!!! I already have a Grave Digger Claim!!!!" or something.
It's just a lot easier to believe that he sent in a fake claim than it is to believe he sent in a real claim, got a response, then got a fake response to share with the thread.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure he's human.
?? What ?? How do you know that he didn't just say that that's what Mashi sent him ??
...but we need to kill the zombie leader...
Quote from: Mashi on March 24, 2013, 12:40:24 PMYou're supposed to false claim Zombie Leader!!! I already have a Grave Robber claim!!!
[quote author=Mashi link=action=profile;u=1062 date=1364154024]
You're supposed to false claim Zombie Leader!!! I already have a Grave Robber claim!!!
[/quote]There is no possible way to fake the "date=1364154024" that indicates when the PM was sent, unless I would have written it down when I was making that PM. Which I think we all can agree, is very farfetch'd.
There's your proof that this PM is real.
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 03, 2013, 03:47:01 PMI is a zombie
Just in case you're wondering, that is from a PM sent by Sheikah during TWG XLVIII, except with altered text. :P
In "The Werewolf Game Rules and Guide" it even says:
Quote7. Players are allowed to share PMs and chat logs sent from other players. They are allowed to forge fake PMs and chat logs sent from other players. But they are not allowed to impersonate other players or the host, fake logs or PMs from the host or anything of that nature. If you have a question about any part of this rule, ask the host or the TWC before making a mistake.
However, since Bird really thinks you're a human:
Yugi
Wait.
Quote from: davy on March 27, 2013, 03:28:43 PMI thought about defending myself for a while, but that's stupid since no nsm player would not claim guardian to bird when they are guardian.
Bird
There is a pretty much
comfirmed wolf here, and people are deciding to lynch a person who defended all suspicion on him.
BRILLIANT.
Quote from: Yugi on March 27, 2013, 08:30:50 PMWait.
There is a pretty much comfirmed wolf here, and people are deciding to lynch a person who defended all suspicion on him.
BRILLIANT.
Bird want to at least cripple the zombies before we go after the wolves... although, if none of our suspicions are right, it won't matter either way... D:
But in 72 Hours Remaining, the wolves used that to their advantage.
I'm not going to switch my vote to davy until two people voting for FSM vote for davy. Then I can take my vote off without dying.
I thought I already explained myself, but I'll do it again in case anyone is unclear.
What good will lynching Davy this phase do? There's another wolf alive, so they'll keep making night kills. And at the same time, it would allow the zombie team to get stronger. They'll make a night kill, and revive another player so that they can make two night kills the following phase.
Since the zombie team is getting stronger every phase unless we do something about it, and since the wolf team won't get any weaker from a wolf lynch, we should try and go for zombies right now.
Quote from: Yugi on March 27, 2013, 01:14:11 AMI'm pretty sure if you were being truthful, this would be the first time I would have done this, so it can't be typical of me.
Bird, would it be possible to look at my defense.
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Yugi was lynched. It is now Night 4. Night 4 ends on March 28th at 11:59 PM EST.
I can make a death post. Right?
Alright, I'm going to vigi Maestro unless somebody can make a really compelling case for someone else.
Quote from: Yugi on March 27, 2013, 08:47:42 PMBut in 72 Hours Remaining, the wolves used that to their advantage.
I know; I was a wolf in that game, wasn't I? :P Even though I was lynched before the HMS...
Quote from: Yugi on March 27, 2013, 09:01:57 PMI can make a death post. Right?
RIP Yugi. Look who was right; he wasn't a zombie. Big surprise there, eh?? Te he... he...
Quote from: Bird on March 27, 2013, 09:08:50 PMAlright, I'm going to vigi Maestro unless somebody can make a really compelling case for someone else.
All right.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 27, 2013, 08:16:14 PMJust in case you're wondering, that is from a PM sent by Sheikah during TWG XLVIII, except with altered text. :P
I meant that it'd not be possible to re-create a fake PM's time stamp, like I showed to you.
Also the Zombie Master is allowed to make a death post. Just saying.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 27, 2013, 09:56:32 PMI meant that it'd not be possible to re-create a fake PM's time stamp, like I showed to you.
Also the Zombie Master is allowed to make a death post. Just saying.
??? Use the timestamp of an existing PM, like I showed you.
But I thought Bird said that Yugi was probably the Grave Robber (did he say that somewhere?)??
He claimed grave robber on night 1. If he were zombie leader, why wouldn't he just claim that?
Anyway, I'll probably go for Davy tonight.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 27, 2013, 10:15:19 PM??? Use the timestamp of an existing PM, like I showed you.
Oh, didn't know that.
you've done this be4 haven't you
I told you guys.
I told you all.
Noone believed me...
I'm going to say the wolves are; Davy, Wolf and Bubbles
And the zombies are; Mashi, FSM, Maestro.
@BDS Here's your proof
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2F15rjfbp.png&hash=157365fe763067b1a1d376f72c4ba029ded5e7fd)
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 28, 2013, 05:42:37 AMI'm going to say the wolves are; Davy, Wolf and Bubbles
And the zombies are; Mashi, FSM, Maestro.
I'm interested to hear why Bubbles would more likely be a wolf instead of zombie. To me they have equal chances.
You just broke da rules. You'll get modkilled now.
Mashi was zombie. Bubbles was wolf.
??? Am I not allowed to screencap PMs? Because in the last game Mashi asked me to screencap all kinds of PMs I had, making me think it's allowed.
Also totes taking an advantage of the situation here:You jumped right at the moment when you said I'd get "modkilled", which I find a bit suspicious. But I'd more likely lean on the fact that you want me dead(in every game), no matter what I do, making it seem like your normal behavior.
I'd recommend you to check out this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief_bias
because that's what is happening to you right now. Seriously.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 28, 2013, 06:39:31 AMBubbles was wolf.
Idk how you confirmed that?
My mistake! I thought any screenshots of pm's resulted in a modkill. Woops!
And I don't want you dead every game? I was suspicious of you last game and I'm pretty sure you are a zombie this game.
After you decided to started dislikin' me, almost every one of your votes have been FSM with mostly bandwagoning reasons.
But idc about that.
What I do want to know is that how could have you figured that Bubbles was a wolf instead of a possible zombie?
Well Spit was revived after bubbles died so she couldn't have been a zombie. No death post. So that means wolf.
Thanks. You did well.
This is a PM that indicates that I was testing that did you figure out what I did, or could have you been Bubbles' wolf partner.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 28, 2013, 07:19:49 AMSo, like you might have seen, I asked TBWCW why Bubbles would more likely be a wolf than a zombie. He seems very confident about it. It'd make sense for a wolf to know that his wolf partner is I know why Bubbles is a wolf, but I'm not sure has TBWCW figured it out the same way I have.
Zombie Master is the only zombie role that can make a death post. Bubbles hasn't made one, even though I told her to. The Grave Robber revived someone after she died, so it's impossible for her to be the GR. And Mashi was the Totem Guy.
I want to see has TBWCW figured this out by himself, or "did he have a gut feeling", like a wolf would say because I can't see a reason for TBWCW be positive of Bubbles being a wolf without him figuring out what I did or being her wolf partner.
Also I didn't finish my 3rd sentence in that PM lol
Okay dokay.
I think everybody should make suspicion lists containing why you're suspicious or not of that person.
Working on mine, I'll hopefully have it up before the phase ends.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 28, 2013, 05:42:37 AMI'm going to say the wolves are; Davy, Wolf and Bubbles
And the zombies are; Mashi, FSM, Maestro.
(which is essentially what I said) :P
@FSM
Fine. :P
Really sorry about being late.
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
BlackDragonSlayer Died! Davy died! Bubbles was revived! It is now Day 4. Day 4 ends on March 30th at 11:59 PM EST.
It's a good day to be alive.
It looks like the Zombie Leader is dead, meaning that the zombie team has been neutralized offensively. All they can do now is just be annoying and revive people. Which is honestly still awful, since they'll probably keep reviving the wolves for no reason. What, you guys don't like humans or something?
We still need to go for the zombies, since if we lynch a wolf, they'll just be revived and the wolves will get a free wolfing. I'm out of vigis by the way.
Oh, and let's not insta anyone.
So zombie lynches. Let's make 'em happen!
Out of all the people alive, I think that
Maestro is most likely the Grave Robber.
Quote from: the last twg where the humans won thx to this quote yaaayThere is no fucking way I'd ever give a victory to someone who has done absolutely nothing for the human team.
also my last day's reasons:
Spoiler
Voting for Maestro, since in his last game where he was a third-party role(and I hosted) he was one of the most active players and ended up being wolf shamaned. It was most likely because of his activity why he was seered. I think he learned his lesson and hasn't even posted once on this thread in this game(I think)! Also not voting for Mashi when he saw that he's trying to receive claims strikes me as insanely suspicious.
Maestro Just so we can be sure.
Voting Maestro, safetying blueflower in the event I can't get back on before tomorrow night.
BDS could you make a death post for us, dahling?
BDS mentioned on mibbit he was going away camping for the weekend, I don't know if he is away yet but if you're not BDS then please make a death post!
He is away.
Bird asked me to be more active. So I'm more active now.
Bird because he woke me from my slumber.
how dare you
Maestro
I only didn't want to vote/insta since I thought 3 phantoms still equaled an ejection. But since it doesn't, we'll have to get rid of wolf the old fashioned way!
Maestro
Does anyone know is blueflower999 is normally this inactive as a human/wolf/3rd party?
Yes
I wasn't talking to you gosh!!!!!
Yes, for example Bowser's Big Blast.
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
MaestroUGC was lynched! It is now Night 5. Night 5 ends on March 31st at 11:59 PM EST.
Soooooomewhereeee oveeeeeer theee raaaaaainboooow
/bored
new guardian is way better than last guardian
Oh right, I completely forgot about that.
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Boy always cried wolf
Then one day he stopped crying
Because he was dead
The Boy Who Cried Wolf died! It is now Day 5. Day 5 ends on April 2nd at 11:59 PM EST.
8)
Bubbles
you wouldnt want to
burst my bubble
Bubbles
psst
that means
dont vote meee
Bubbles
also verm what is it with you and haikus lately
Oh right, I completely forgot this too.
Maestro, if you could make a death post, it'd be highly appreciated.
On the merits of Villainy:
The Hero of any story is the person, who above all else, the audience agrees with and sees them as right or otherwise morally sound. But at what point does the Hero begin to lose meaning in the idea of the archetype?
When the Villain is gone. Every Hero needs a Villain, but not every Villain needs a Hero. Villainy, or any form of negative attitudes and behaviors render the need for a Hero to correct the balance. Therefore the Villain is crucial to the story, not the Hero. The Villain, as a must, therefore, be the most interesting character and have a complete backstory and characterization. The Hero, while unique and interesting in his own right, is ancillary to the Villain. An interesting Hero allows for both a bland Hero, by sheer contrast, and a dynamic Hero, to counter or mirror the Villain. A dull Villain renders the Hero equally dull, as there is nothing to counter to make him stand out and apart. If the Villain is dull and boring, but the Hero is bold and dynamic then there is no conflict of characterization.
The conflict doesn't come from right or wrong, it comes from "I'm right, you're wrong;" a battle of will. Its in the characterization that drives the true conflict, the impetus is ancillary as it serves only to begin the plot. But where does the Hero belong if no Villain presents itself? Nowhere. The argument can be made that the Hero creates the Villain, but that's never true. Villains are born out of their own circumstance, not out of the shadow of a Hero. Therefore the Hero only comes to be in the face of true Villainy.
Without the Villain, the Hero cannot be. The Villain upsets the balance, and the Hero corrects it. Once the Villain is vanquished, there is no longer a need for a Hero. He's done his job and is rightfully pushed aside so as to not upset the status quo. If the hero fails, and the Villain proves to be right and true then he becomes an Anti-hero; a bit of a jerk but nonetheless necessary. The Anti-hero never fades away, as he doesn't feel an obbligation to the status quo like the Hero, and therefore can continue to do as he pleases, establishing a new status quo.
The Villian is what always remains, the Hero is simply a tool to deliver the moral, for better or worse.
No fucking way.
The Grave Robber is still alive, since Maestro made a death post.
I say that we don't lynch Bubbles this phase.
People that would most likely be Grave Robber:
1. blueflower999
2. Thiannon
3. wolf
Bird you're in charge of this lynch. Pick your choice. We can lynch Bubbles later.
I don't really know any more than any other player, so I think we can make this vote a bit more egalitarian than before.
But, uhh... Why not just go for Bubbles? We know Bubbles is the last wolf (since that PM incriminated Yugi as a partner with her and davy). By lynching her, we deny the wolves a kill tonight. The worst thing that can happen is Bubbles getting revived again, bringing us to the same situation we're in now. The best thing that can happen is the grave robber forgetting to use his power.
All I can say is, im not the grave robber.
Oh, it looks like I wasn't using my brain lol. I just thought that since you said all kinds of stuff that the zombies are our priorities so we should lynch them. Nvm then. Carry on people.
inb4 an endless circle of lynching wolves and grave robber reviving them
Btw wolf, could you say "Bubbles" and bold it so it would become "Bubbles"?
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on April 01, 2013, 12:24:28 AMOh, it looks like I wasn't using my brain lol. I just thought that since you said all kinds of stuff that the zombies are our priorities so we should lynch them. Nvm then. Carry on people.
Yeah, well it makes sense to have zombies as the priority if you can't take out all the remaining wolves in one fell swoop.
If there were two wolves left, killing one of them (only to have them revived the next day) would be really dumb since they'd still get their night kill. So instead of things going back to normal, they'd go back to normal minus one human. With one wolf left, we prevent them from making a night kill at all.
And we don't have to go for Bubbles if we don't want to. It's definitely the most cautious option though, even if it isn't the fastest one.
i swear to drunk im not allah
TBWCW, if you could make a death post it'd be appreciated, since there's a chance you could have been the Grave Robber.
Idk why didn't I think of this earlier.
ninja'd Yeah. It'd be wise to see can TBWCW make a death post first.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on April 01, 2013, 12:27:58 AMBtw wolf, could you say "Bubbles" and bold it so it would become "Bubbles"?
sure
BUBBLES
lol
Verm does that count as a vote?
Well, I'd like to hear what blueflower has done for the human team since, I dunno, the beginning of the game.
Though I think it's more likely Maestro is the GR and just didn't realize he didn't get a death post since he never read the game structure.
Quote from: Thiannon on April 01, 2013, 05:19:30 AMWell, I'd like to hear what blueflower has done for the human team since, I dunno, the beginning of the game.
Otso Syrjänen 29.3.2013 22.56
What have you done to help the humans?
Blueflower999 29.3.2013 22.56
Nothing
29.3.2013 22.56
:P
Quote from: Thiannon on April 01, 2013, 05:19:30 AMWell, I'd like to hear what blueflower has done for the human team since, I dunno, the beginning of the game.
Though I think it's more likely Maestro is the GR and just didn't realize he didn't get a death post since he never read the game structure.
I asked Verm. All death posts were fine.
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Bubbles was lynched! It is now Night 6. Night 6 ends on April 2 at noon EST.
Isn't TBWCW dead, just wondering?
whoops
Thanks for looking into that for me, FSM!
I guess wolf's vote counted. As for Maestro, I was (mostly) kidding.
I should say that was the first time I ever lynched someone.
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Bubbles was revived! It is now Day 6. Day 6 ends on April 4 at 11:59 PM EST.
lol
So... what now? :o
let's lynch bubbles again it'll be funny
I'd go for blueflower or Thiannon with today's lynch. Idk if one of them is the seer.
I doubt wolf would be the Grave Robber.
i don't think he even knows how to send in a reviving pm
Idk, I just get this vibe from him.
Hm, possibly.
It looks like we're going to get at least two lynch attempts for the zombie, which gives us pretty good odds of winning. There are 4 unconfirmed players we should be looking at, one of whom was recently made the guardian (which doesn't really matter in terms of who we lynch):
FSM-Reapr
Thiannon
blueflower999
wolf
We don't have a lot of information on who might be the grave robber, but we do know two things. The first is that the zombie revived somebody out of the typical order, which can be interpreted a bunch of different ways. Perhaps the two zombies knew each other, enabling them to agree on out of order revivals (unlikely, since they went for spitllama first). Perhaps the reviver assumed the zombie leader had died, and decided that bringing back a non-follower wolf was less risky than trying to bring back a follower human. Or maybe the reviver just didn't really care.
The other thing we know about the grave robber is that he forgot to revive on one night. This goes really well with both blueflower999 and wolf. Thiannon may be a tricky enough player to avoid reviving in order to lead to inactive players being lynched, but I think it would have been more important to make revives this late in the game, and I think he would have realized that as well.
I think that the person most likely to follow through with the above two behaviors is blueflower999. I don't think that wolf has the independence or confidence to revive somebody not explicitly put forward by Mashi's original outline (which is to revive from the top down). Since the reviver went with the plan first, they must have decided to try something else later on, and blueflower999 is a thoughtful player. Thiannon and FSM-Reapr would also be capable of acting in this way, but I don't really think that they would miss a revive. Blueflower999 also has the weird behavior of acting helpful in the first game, then doing literally nothing for the rest, while Thiannon and FSM have had consistently helpful actions.
As of now, my second choice would be either Thiannon or wolf, and I can't really decide which. Hopefully blueflower999 is the zombie, though, so I don't have to decide.
Well, it looks like you're going to have to decide if you go through with lynching me! I've actually been paying as close attention as I can to this game. I just can't think of anything helpful to say. There's also not really that much that I can say to defend myself from an accusation like "ur inactive so ur wuff", so I still can't think of anything helpful to say!
You could weigh in on the lynch. If you're human, come up with a convincing argument for one of the other three players. If you've been playing close attention, you shouldn't even have to reread the thread.
Honestly, I think the missed revive seems like FSM more than anyone. I can see him going against the percentages in trying to mislead the humans (and wolves, I suppose) into thinking the GR is dead or inactive. That said, he's been the most consistently productive of the four suspects we have remaining, including me, and it's tough to lynch the guy who's done the best job acting human. If he is a wolf, he's done a great job enacting what I like to call the Seizure Man Strategy, which is to make it look as if you're working harder for the human team than some or all of the humans and thereby make yourself effectively indispensable. It's an effective strategy that is really frustrating because it obviously breaks down in games with a higher effort level than what we're seeing here.
blueflower, if you want to avoid getting my vote--remember, if you are human and we lynch you, there's a roughly 66% chance we lose this game--I'd encourage you to review FSM's actions (or wolf's, I guess, though I don't think there's much to read) and make the case against him.
Greetings, I'm back
No
I'd be happy to defend myself against any accusations you have.
Quote from: Thiannon on April 02, 2013, 11:17:16 AMHonestly, I think the missed revive seems like FSM more than anyone.
I'm think the missed revive is just that -- a missed revive. As in forgotten. The only person I've ever seen purposefully miss a power usage to get inactive lynched was Verm and he isn't playing. And with so many players inactive, missing a night due to forgetfulness strikes me as much more plausible, no matter who it might be. I suppose it's possible, but the small benefit doesn't seem like enough to get a person to overcome their natural instinct of defaulting to the status quo.
As for FSM, he has a bunch of stuff going his way. He claimed to Mashi very late (after I had asked for people to false claim to him, I believe), and he said in the claim that he was the Zombie Master, rather than the grave robber. That claim was almost certainly false (otherwise why did Mashi respond jokingly, the way he did). And I can't see him making a real claim, then sending in the false claim afterwards to create an alibi, just because nobody does stuff like that. On top of that, he's done an exhausting amount of work for the humans, including finding out the identity of the remaining wolf (which would be dumb for a zombie to do since the humans were clearly winning) and a bunch of other stuff involving TBWCW. Plus, he's too 8) to be a zombie.
Yeah, the past couple of games are the ones I've tried to play as best as I could. It's also been a lot of fun!
Quote from: Bird on April 02, 2013, 12:25:20 PMPlus, he's too 8) to be a zombie.
^This mmd, thanks Bird. It means a lot to me to hear something like this from you.
blueflower999
becuz I can
Fair enough. Let's get this show on the road, then.
blueflower999
blueflower
>.>
Someone actually throw a legitimate accusation against me other than that I've been lazy this game so that I have a chance to defend myself for the sake of the human team.
The suspicion of you stemmed from the fact that you "fit the bill" better than anyone else, not because you did anything outright suspicious (indeed, how could you when you've been this inactive?). If you wanted to avoid lynching, you'd have to, as I said before, make a case against someone else.
Which you didn't!
Don't say we never gave you a chance.
Why is Bubbles helping the lynch
Good question. I wouldn't really worry about it, though, as there's no way she knows who the Grave Robber is (as evidenced by FSM finding out all the wolves by claiming grave robber to her).
its nice to be helpful sometimes
Let's assume that blueflower999 was not the zombie, and that the wolves will successfully attack somebody tonight. Let's also assume that the zombie will revive a wolf.
Time | Action | Number of Wolves | Number of Humans | Number of Zombies |
End of Day 6 | Human (blueflower999) lynched | 1 | 4 | 1 |
End of Night 7 | Human wolfed, wolf revived | 2 | 3 | 1 |
At this point, we can try to lynch the zombie. If successful, it'll be [2, 3, 0] which will cause a wolf victory when they wolf one of us. If unsuccessful, it'll be [2, 2, 1], which will also cause a wolf victory when they wolf one of us.
The alternative is to lynch a wolf. This will bring the total to [1, 3, 1]. After the wolfing, it'll be [1, 2, 1]. If a wolf is revived in this scenario, the wolves win again. If a human, or nobody is revived, these are the two scenarios that can arise:
1. Human is revived [1, 3, 1]: If we lynch a wolf, the wolf will be revived and it repeats. If we lynch a human, a human will be revived and a wolfing will occur, bringing us to [1, 2, 1] (see 2). If we lynch the zombie, the wolf will attack and the humans will finally see a winnable outcome of [1, 2, 0].
2. No one is revived [1, 2, 1]: If we lynch a wolf, they will be revived and it repeats. If we lynch the zombie, the the wolf attacks and wins. If we lynch a human, the human is revived, the wolf attacks someone, and the game comes to [1, 1, 1]. At this point, the zombies will attempt to lynch the humans, the wolves will attempt to lynch the zombies, and the humans won't give a fuck who wins, and will likely screw over the zombie since they put the humans in an unwinnable situation for no reason even though they found out the identity of the wolves.
It is impossible for the zombie to win in any of these outcomes, with the exception of 2. And even in 2, we won't let the zombie win because we'll despise him at that point.
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tl;dr: The zombie can't win, and basically has the outcome of the game in his hands. If he revives two wolves in a row, the wolves win no matter what. If he does anything else, it's up in the air between humans and wolves.
I edited my post because I didn't want to see all that work go down the drain due to a stupid number typo.
Humans: please start producing zombie and grave digger fan art to sway the zombie to our side.
im the gravy robber
draw a zombie kirby with a top hat and im all yours
TOO SLOW HOOMINS
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F72hJOuj.png&hash=937f22609f71ff78f9e5f70dec93e100df48e253)
lol
that's plagiarized, i don't think the wolves really care about their relationship with the grave digger
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Blueflower was insta'd! It is now Night 7. Night 7 ends on April 3 at 11:30 PM PST. That's 2:30 AM on April 4 for all you East-Coasters. 24 hours from this post.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on April 02, 2013, 10:09:26 AMI'd go for blueflower or Thiannon with today's lynch. Idk if one of them is the seer.
I doubt wolf would be the Grave Robber.
I will not tell a lie.
I'm not the graverobber.
Quote from: wolf on April 03, 2013, 12:05:34 AMI will not tell a lie.
I'm not the graverobber.
That would be correct.
Because I am the great Grave Robber.
And I know that spit is the new guardian and he'll be wolfed tonight. Just saying. Good thing he can't guard himself. ;) That will wreck the last piece of hope the human team has.
I unfortunately was unable to revive anyone last Night. :/ Well, that can be fixed.
Bird, when I claimed to Bubbles, I was actually being serious. :3
I made one huuuuge mistake that no one luckily noticed. I said I claimed Zombie Master to Bird, but in the PM I screencapped, it said the opposite thing. Mashi should have just said what I told him to say: "Sorry, but you were counterclaimed!!!". I told him to send me a PM that would make me look like that I was false-claiming to him. It worked out perfectly!
I'm pretty sure I'll go with the outcome 2 you mentioned, Bird. If you want to lynch me tomorrow, the wolves win.
If the wolves want to wolf me, the humans win. If you want to help me to win, we lynch wolves from now on. Although I do accept a forfeit from both teams if you want to save time.
I think it would be fair to give the victory to the one who has played the game best. That would be me.
I know you humans will say that "no we'll never let you win, so you might as well help us". No. If I somehow don't win, the wolves win. You humans have 0% chance of winning, unless some wolf would like to be really stupid and wolf me and let the humans win.
Good game guys. Good game.
Deathpost to confirm human
FSM:
Revive a wolf and we lynch you tomorrow, no matter the cost.
Revive a human and I post my incredible Bird + grave robber fan art which I finished last night.
Your Choice!
And just in case you doubt the validity of my threat, consider the following:
If a wolf is revived, and a human is lynched, the totals will be 2 wolves, 3 humans and 1 zombie for the next day phase. If we don't follow up on our promise, the only possible action for us to prolong the game is to lynch a wolf. Then, you will revive nobody and a human will be attacked leading to [1, 2, 1] for the next day phase, or scenario 2 (since there's no way we can convince the wolf to attack the zombie, since for the humans to continue playing, they need to keep lynching wolves).
In scenario 2, the humans have already lost.
So since we're doomed no matter what if a wolf is revived, we would have absolutely no reason not to follow up on our threat. Team Zombie has already lost, and are now simply deciding between letting the humans win and letting the wolves win. I think the humans are far more deserving and you'll get art out of it.
Spoiler
We don't negotiate with zombies!!!
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Yep I'm totally definitely the guardian might as well wolf me now! ::)
I wouldn't win without the humans anyway. So I don't give a fuck if you'd lynch me or not. I just think the Zombies played a better game than the wolves.
Sorry Bird, even though I'm going to die, I'm going to die proud, knowing I fucked you over. 8)
Hey Bird, do you know what you have done? You lost to a loser. That will look good on your resumee.
Man, why are you being so mean? I'm only doing this because it's the only way by which the humans can win. I don't have any hard feelings towards the zombies, since they definitely did play better than the wolves. I don't see why you're so eager to screw us over anyway. We definitely played better than the wolves, who are only still relevant because of revivals. I thought you were 8)!!!
At least this game will stand as a strong argument against three-team games. And at least it's almost over.
hey the wuffs played pretty well excuse u
be quiet bubbles you're going to win anyway!
I couldn't miss an opportunity to mess with you. :3 It feels awesome to just claim zombie and mess with the rest of you without anything to worry or regret about.
Also besides, I think you should look into the mirror. If you'd be 8) you'd rather give the victory to someone who actually deserves it. But I guess not. I think you're just a bitter jerk. :( Otherwise you'd show some sportsmanship.
I need to follow up on the thread, otherwise promises in future games won't be credible.
Besides, allowing you to win would take a really long time, and I'd rather the game just be over at this point.
*sigh* We should have had him, Sauce.
The Zombies played the best game, but they chose to screw over the team that played the second best game--the humans, my team--despite the fact that they were mathematically unable to win the game. I don't think it's a bitter action for me, Bird, and the other humans to lynch FSM next day. An eye for an eye, and all that. wolf, Spit, I hope you'll agree with me.
Goddamn that Seizure Man.
Credible promises on TWG? What is this blasphemy?!
Like I said, I would accept a forfeit from both teams.
Yah I placed a vote on FSM earlier in the game and then took it off of him. Dumb move. I feel obligated to finish the job now.
I actually would want the humans to win rather than the wolves(I know, frivolous). But you see, reviving a wolf is my only shot towards victory. I'm pretty sure most of you wouldn't give up in my place. I'm only doing what I have to, I hope you understand that. Giving up is never an option, except when it's sure that you can't win.
ninja'd
:<
Sorry, but all of your identities were found out and at one point all of you were dead!
But you can't win, FSM! You will be lynched next day phase if you revive a wolf. Sorry. :(
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Davy was revived! Spitllama died! It is now Day 7. Day 7 ends on April 5 at 11:30 PM PST. That's 2:30 AM on April 6 for all you East-Coasters. 24 hours from this post.
Hey guys, I'm back!
Quote from: Bird on April 03, 2013, 11:19:12 AMMan, why are you being so mean? I'm only doing this because it's the only way by which the humans can win. I don't have any hard feelings towards the zombies, since they definitely did play better than the wolves. I don't see why you're so eager to screw us over anyway. We definitely played better than the wolves, who are only still relevant because of revivals. I thought you were 8)!!!
At least this game will stand as a strong argument against three-team games. And at least it's almost over.
Where are you all getting the idea from that wolves played the worst? If I look at what all teams did well and did wrong, I reach the following:
Zombies
+Creating an alliance (which I don't even know for sure, since the leader was dead before it could be put into action).
+FSM screwing bird over (which couldn't have helped him win the game anyway)
+FSM deciding to revive wolves (which couldn't have helped him win the game eighter)
-Waddle asking bird to vigi yugi
-Mashi claiming to yugi
-FSM consistently reminding players to make death posts (which is in the advantage of the GR, and which is something the humans should have noticed).
Humans
+Creating an alliance
+Lynching Bubbles
+The conch plan
+Lynching yugi (although you mistakenly lynched him for being the Zombie Leader/Grave Robber)
+?Vigi'ing the Zombie Leader (I don't know this for sure, since Dude and K-Night died during the same night, but one of them should be the Zombie leader)
-Lynching Mashi instead of vigi'ing him
-Lynching Maestro and Blueflower
Wolves
+Creating an alliance+Me claiming Seer to protect Bubbles and me from being seer'd
+Yugi sharing Mashi's claim to Bird
+Me seering Mashi
+Me sharing Mashi's seering with Bird (this is something different from the above, because the above caused us to kill an enemy, while this caused me to gain more of Bird's trust).
+Me being suspicious of Waddle/FSM, which I could have used to lead the lynch against him during day 3 (if the conch plan had failed).
+Wolfing the guardian
+Wolfing the guardian again
+?Wolfing the Zombie leader (I don't know this for sure, since Dude and K-Night died during the same night, but one of them should be the Zombie leader)
-Bubbles appearently not being active enough (I feel so sorry for her, now she always have to be active during the game, or she'll be accused of not being a human).
-Not wolfing the guardian during night 2 or 3 (which would have prevented the conch plan).
-Me not telling my suspicion of FSM to yugi
I might have forgotten/not known some things, but currently, I don't see why people are saying that the zombies played best.
gg humans
The wolves played the worst because they were all found out and killed at one point. I think you're not supposed to do that. I consider your victory as a fluke, since the way you could have won was because I only needed you to kill people for me. I was controlling the wolf team in the end. 8) Unfortunately the human team wanted you to win rather than us.
Zombies would win the game if the humans would have some sportsmanship.
Also davy, because I won't give up and I love Bubbles more.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on April 04, 2013, 05:52:31 AMgg humans
The wolves played the worst because they were all found out and killed at one point. I think you're not supposed to do that. I consider your victory as a fluke, since the way you could have won was because I only needed you to kill people for me. I was controlling the wolf team in the end. 8) Unfortunately the human team wanted you to win rather than us.
Zombies would win the game if the humans would have some sportsmanship.
Also davy, because I won't give up and I love Bubbles more.
FSM, being found out and being killed are both passive things. Passive mean that things happen and that the subject is not actively doing the action (unless the subject is also the determination of means, but that's not the case here, because wolves did neighter found themselves out nor did they kill themselves). Also, you're supposed to be able to win the game, which you are not atm, and I doubt that the humans and the wolves will let you win this game (Although I don't know what Bubbles thinks, I prefer if the humans win over a Zombie victory, and the humans have already said that they prefer a wolf victory over a Zombie victory). Also, we were as much controling the Zombie team as you were controling the wolf team. The zombies had no power of their own with which they could win the game, and we can during any night phase decide to end the game for you and your team.
If you think the Zombies played the best, that's okay, but do not imeadiately think that everyone shares your opinion.
But I wasn't even playing Night 1? ???
fsm
FSM, this isn't poor sportsmanship. Despite being mathematically unable to win the game, you chose to undermine the opposing team you felt performed the best and subsequently mocked them in the thread for being deceived by you, resorting to petty name-calling and throwing a tantrum when you didn't get your way. In other words, you treated us exactly the way we're presently treating you, but with the addition of condescension and self-congratulation. Sorry, but in choosing to gloat, you cost yourself any benefit of the doubt you might have received from me.
Also, davy makes some pretty good points!
FSM
Quote from: Thiannon on April 04, 2013, 11:52:20 AMAlso, davy makes some pretty good points!
you are not allowed to edit your posts is this a good point too?tnx
lol the sportsmanship thing was the last attempt to convince you to help me. I thought that mr nice guy act wouldn't have helped me at all. In a case few years ago where I tried to be nice people took an advantage of that and backstabbed me in a way I have troubles of forgiving. But later I realized that if I'd use my appearance and a... well... let's just say a tougher attitude, a few people would have troubles standing up against me.(damn language barrier, that makes me sound like a bully) But I forgot how well you can stand up against someone over the Internet. I legitimately apologize everything mean I said.
The convincing the other team help your team to win thing is a paradox, since neither side would give up. Only good TWGers fight until death. I actually have to congratulate you for not giving up! Good job!
BTW, to show good sportsmanship, if you decide to lynch davy/Bubbles today, I'll revive a human. I give you my word. Now I think it's okay to do this since two humans have their votes on me.
Also lol, TBWCW had his post removed where he said I didn't play that well since he found me out Night 1. xD
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on April 04, 2013, 12:34:49 PMBTW, to show good sportsmanship, if you decide to lynch davy/Bubbles today, I'll revive a human. I give you my word. Now I think it's okay to do this since two humans have their votes on me.
If you'd want to do this, I recommend to remove your vote from me before Bubbles comes online.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on April 04, 2013, 12:36:31 PMIf you'd want to do this, I recommend to remove your vote from me before Bubbles comes online.
Meaning I'd vote
FSM or because Id be mad?
Im ALWAYS online ;)
Darn.
welp
gg
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
INSTAAAAA FSM-Reapr was Insta'd. It is now Night 8. Night 8 ends on April 5 at 4 PM EST.
Verm, when did the insta occur?
After Bubbles' vote.
wouldn't it be hilarious if the wolves wolfed themselves instead of wolfing a human
i think it would be
Wolves
1. Master Wolf
2. Wolf Shaman: Does not get a death post
3. Wolf Totem: Once per game, may replace the Totem Guy's Totem with a Totem of his own. He also gets two guesses of the Totem Guy's identity per day phase. If the Totem Guy dies or takes over the role of another Zombie, he gets to write ALL the totems. Does not get a death post
Humans
4. Guardian: In order to guard the seer or vigilante, must reduce their power use by 1 each attempted guarding. He also gets three guesses of the Totem Guy's identity on Day 1. When he dies, he has one phase to decide who he passes his power to. If he selects a Wolf or a Zombie, that player will gain a guardian power (with the same limitations) and the ability to choose whether or not their vote counts. If he selects a human, that player will lose their vote but gain a Guardian ability with the same limitations as the original Guardian. Does not get a Death post
5. Seer: 5 uses of power. May only use one per night.
6. Vigilante: 3 uses of power. May only use one per night. Begins with the Magic Conch!
7. Human:
8. Human: All human roles are the same.
9. Human:
10. Human:
11. Human:
12. Human:
13. Human:
Zombies
14. Zombie Leader: Beginning Night 2, he may bite dead bodies. If, on any night, he bites the same player the Grave Robber resurrects, that person becomes a Zombie follower. The Zombie leader may direct each one of his Zombie followers to kill one person per night. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
15. Grave Robber: Beginning Night 2, he may choose one of the people who are in the graveyard each night to resurrect. If he and the Zombie Leader choose the same person, that person will be revived and kill one person at the command of the Zombie leader PER NIGHT. If he selects someone the Zombie Leader doesn't pick, that person can just come back to life. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
16. Totem Guy: May post a Totem each night. If, by Day 2, neither the Wolf Totem or Guardian have guessed his identity, he will learn the identities of the Zombie Leader and the Grave Robber. If either the Zombie Leader or Grave Robber dies, he may take over for them, becoming green as well. However, he will maintain his Totem abilities. Does not get a death post. May not be revived. Does not know his partners.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Yugi
3. MaestroUGC
4. spitllama
5. Thiannon
6. davy
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
8. blueflower999
9. K-NiGhT
10. TheZeldaPianist275
11. Bubbles7689
12. Bird
13. Mashi
14. Dude
15. wolf
16. FSM-Reapr
Phase ended a little early because wolves sent in a wolfing a little early.
Wolves win.
death post!!!!!!!!