TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoG6HYSCrAg)
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1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
PMs will be sent out soon.
Hello there!
Yesh! Finally! :D
Let's rumble.
And did Popo make it in?
Oops, missed him, I'll add him in and fix the game again back to the original format.
PMs sent out!!
A.I. will be distributed at the beginning of day 1.
It is Night 1. Night 1 ends Thursday, February 28, 10PM EST.
Oh, let's see who I go...
O_O
Who should claim to start the Allaiance?
Remember, there is a sniper. Let's be cautious.
Oops overlooked that.
Quote from: blueflower999 on February 26, 2013, 07:10:04 PMRemember, there is a sniper. Let's be cautious.
In this game, claiming WILL be difficult, with painter, Lopez, etc, Sarge, etc.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 26, 2013, 07:07:50 PMOh, let's see who I go...
O_O
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If I told you, I'd probably be sniped. Then again, mentioning that doesn't help either! D:
Then again, it's probably not of enough purpose to snipe; the wolves would want to snipe the guardian, and THEN wolf me. :P
Then again, none of that really made any sense to say at all.
Yay, this finally started :D
I think we should definitely have someone claim tonight. Seer, Vigi, and Brutal Human are really our only options. We have a day seer, but I think we're going to want as many seerings as we can get.
Between the other two, it's pretty close. With Brutal human, if he gets sniped, there's a remote possibility a special gets killed. With the vigi, we don't get our extra kills.
Can the brutal human choose not to use his brutal? If he can, I think he should claim. If not, the vigi is the safest bet I think.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on February 26, 2013, 08:01:38 PMBetween the other two, it's pretty close. With Brutal human, if he gets sniped, there's a remote possibility a special gets killed. With the vigi, we don't get our extra kills.
The vigi gets only one kill, meaning that he would be the best person to claim (I asked Sheikah after reading the first post, after I got my PM).
Thus being said,
I AM THE VIGISeer me if you don't trust me, but please guard me. :P As I said, the wolves may want to snipe either me or the guardian (me of less value, though, because there's only one vigi), but it would be terrible if I was wolfed. :-\
If the vigi had unlimited kills, I wouldn't be claiming right now, since it would be way too risky (if you think about it, I would be extremely deadly to the wolves with an unlimited vigi :P).
Please don't waste the seering on BlackDragonSlayer.
If he's a wolf, he's the blue one, so seering him does no good. He isn't the Meta because counterclaiming vigi is a horrible strategy for the meta.
I'm inclined to think he's human as opposed to wolf because I'm not sure wolves would have had enough time to chat to prepare for this counterclaim.
Oh gawd BDS as our alliance leader
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Quote from: vermilionvermin on February 26, 2013, 09:52:06 PMIf he's a wolf, he's the blue one, so seering him does no good. He isn't the Meta because counterclaiming vigi is a horrible strategy for the meta.
That's why I mentioned it would be hard to claim, because of the painter.
Kk I'm church the seer.
What? Oh wait ...ahhhh
This is why I should have read thread first .-.
I call shenanigans. I highly doubt TBWCW is the real seer.
The more specials that claim publicly, the greater risk is posed that multiple specials die early in the game (you can't guard everybody, you know :P); it's rather important that we keep our seer, while still forming a human alliance.
Guess who's here with a counterclaim?
Mmmmmmmmmmister T.!
I'm the seer, TBWCW is faking.
And you didn't claim to BDS privately.
Gj people.
Wut
haha no im just joking guys im not the seer
Seriously, shenanigans were pulled, won't happen again.
...if things don't go well before I'm killed (repeat of Jub from last game? :P), a human alliance will become a lot more difficult...
Quote from: vermilionvermin on February 26, 2013, 08:01:38 PMCan the brutal human choose not to use his brutal?
No. I keep telling sarge that "shotgun in the face" is not a contingency plan, but he just ignores me, saying: "Shotgun in the face can be applied in a variety of tough situations. For instance, watch how quickly it cures insubordination."
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 27, 2013, 12:32:02 PMNo. I keep telling sarge that "shotgun in the face" is not a contingency plan, but he just ignores me, saying: "Shotgun in the face can be applied in a variety of tough situations. For instance, watch how quickly it cures insubordination."
A+
Also, I'm here and I am the please claim to me #shenanigans
hay k-night i is the meta
no wai i am the plz.
i am also the meta
i am also south dakota
i am also wyoming
i am also washington
i am also church
i am also tucker
i am also caboose
i am also sarge
i am also normal human
Quote from: Yugi on February 27, 2013, 09:28:10 PMi am also caboose
No way. Yugi can't be the caboose. trust me
Just had a quick chat with wolf. This is what went down.
Quote23:58 Vermilionvermin Hey, that comment about yugi not being the caboose was weird
23:58 wolf It was?
23:59 Vermilionvermin Yeah I found it somewhat odd.
23:59 Vermilionvermin And it's pretty obvious that you're saying you're the caboose.
23:59 wolf ...
23:59 wolf That's not what I'm saying at all.
23:59 Vermilionvermin ?
23:59 wolf Caboose is da bomb
00:00 Vermilionvermin Yugi can't hack it as the Caboose
00:01 wolf The Caboose is popo, isn't it?
00:01 Vermilionvermin Why does the Caboose have to be popo?
00:01 wolf He is the last player on the list
00:01 Vermilionvermin So?
00:01 wolf Cabooses are always the last ones.
00:01 wolf That's what caboose means
00:01 Vermilionvermin No, I think Caboose is a character from Red vs. Blue
00:02 Vermilionvermin It doesn't have to be the last player to sign up.
00:02 Vermilionvermin It could be anyone.
00:02 wolf oh!
00:02 wolf Sorry then.
00:02 wolf So wait who's the caboose?
00:02 Vermilionvermin Idunno
00:02 Vermilionvermin could be anyone
Wolf why did you delete your post.
Because It was kind of like a swear.
It's still against the rules.
For anyone who didn't see Wolf posted "W.T.F" after Verm's log.
I don't think it's a big deal if he is using 'it was sort of like a swear' as his arguement, but yeh Wolf don't delete posts and swears are aloud but don't overly swear..
Ok.
TWC Post: Editing posts in TWG is against the rules. However, because wolf is still new and learning the rules of the game, and we have multiple people who can confirm the exact content of his post, no punishment other than a warning is required.
I doubt BDS will be counterclaimed, so I recommend everybody to claim to BDS. It's important that everybody claims to him before the Night Phase ends, so he wouldn't have to guess what was the player's who dies this phase role.
Also, please remember to send all your PMs to Sheikah (since he's the host, obviously :P) as well.
Night 1 is over, but I need a few minutes to take care of some other things irl before I can update. Give me 30 mins.
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue
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1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
Wyoming: Sorry BlackDragonSlayer, but I always get my man. Say good bye mate. Snipe was fired at 9:38PM EST.
wolf died of a heart attack due to an aspirin allergy.
It is now Day 1. Day 1 will end March 1, 10 PM EST.
A.I.s will now be distributed.
9:38PM on what date, if we're allowed to know?
-__- sure, it's the alliance leader. Did BDS send his claims to anybody else?
I actually didn't trust him for a while there. :-[ I'm getting almost as paranoid as he is.
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 28, 2013, 07:48:04 PMWyoming: Sorry BlackDragonSlayer, but I always get my man. Say good bye mate. Snipe was fired at 9:38PM EST.
wolf died of a heart attack due to an aspirin allergy.
RIP Wolf... oh wait...
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(there goes the human alliance)
Should sarge claim?
Why would he do that?
Just a quick question: Can the sniper fire during both day and night, or just night?
Here's a PM I received from BlackDragonSlayer. I'm not sure why he sent it to me, but he did.
QuoteHey verm...
TZP may be a wolf:
When claiming to me, he said his specific role (Doughnut), although Sheikah said that humans such as that are just told they are human.
He's somebody to keep an eye on; if I die, please inform everybody else about this. Since barely anybody else has claimed, this is one of the only leads we have to go on at the current moment.
I suggested that BDS vigi
TZP but BDS said he was worried that TZP might be the meta.
...Wow, that's some good evidence about the TZP fellow.
Quote from: Mashi on February 28, 2013, 08:06:03 PM9:38PM on what date, if we're allowed to know?
2-28-2013
Requesting 24 hour Day Phase extension in order for the Day Phase to be 48 hours long.
Also, there's no use in Instaing just yet; we have a whole Day Phase's worth of time to discuss things, so we would be best to use it for the extra time.
Can sniper dude use multiple snipes.
If yes then god help us.
Wait, if BDS was sniped wouldn't it have been posted in the thread at the time it happened? If it was because sheikah was confuzzled with the phase endings and needed to get his stuff together, or simply wasnt online, I understand. I'm just curious.
Also I find it weird that the wolves used their snipe so quickly. Is that the only way there could've been a snipe in this game?
Does that mean I died?
Yes.
And regarding the Sniper, my understanding of it was that the Sniper can only shoot once and it's whenever he/she wants to.
Okay. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: wolf on February 28, 2013, 09:30:06 PMOkay. ;D ;D ;D
Only one post after an unexpected death.
Well TZP? If you don't post a really good defence, I'm afraid you're sunk. :P
Oh, and the person who has the A.I. that allows you to talk to dead players should probably ask BDS some questions!
-__- I wondered if this would come up again. Crap.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 28, 2013, 08:07:58 PM-__- sure, it's the alliance leader. Did BDS send his claims to anybody else?
I actually didn't trust him for a while there. :-[ I'm getting almost as paranoid as he is.
I guess I have to claim now. I am Sarge. In case you didn't notice, I stated that I was paranoid of BDS even before Verm posted his evidence against me. What happened was I was indeed paranoid of BDS, and claimed Doughnut to him, not wanting to reveal my brutality. Because I knew who I was, I assumed the other humans did too. Obviously I didn't read the rules well enough. -___-
Yeah, sorry about that, guys. :-[
It's like 72 Hours Remaining all over again.
Guys let's think this through. The guy fails to claim a human role. After he's busted, he claims the brutal human. I like those odds.
The real Sarge should definitely not counterclaim him, making this clear.
Not voting him yet, I don't want an insta to occur.
Also just in case he's the South, I recommend using the Sigma A.I on TZP. This also negates the possible brutaling effect, if in some way he's the Sarge.
Gah darn busy schedule.
Safety on Mashi until I can read in the thread more in depth. Also to avoid an insta.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 01, 2013, 06:10:20 AMAlso just in case he's the South, I recommend using the Sigma A.I on TZP. This also negates the possible brutaling effect, if in some way he's the Sarge.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
Anyway, I'm still not entirely convinced that TZP is Sarge. I'm actually more convinced of him being a wolf, or worse, The Meta. Obviously, let's not jump to conclusions, but that's just my two cents.
Meh, screw it. I'll most likely be asleep when the phase ends so TZP.
TZP
Oops, I f'ed up a little.
Day 1 ends March 2, 10 PM EST.Quote from: Bubbles7689 on February 28, 2013, 08:59:49 PMWait, if BDS was sniped wouldn't it have been posted in the thread at the time it happened? If it was because sheikah was confuzzled with the phase endings and needed to get his stuff together, or simply wasnt online, I understand. I'm just curious.
Yeah, I was busy when it happened, and had to get some stuff sorted out before the phase ended, so I just put the snipe on the phase update.
Please don't insta yet. I'll explain when I get home.
If I were a wolf, why would I claim an actual human name to BDS? I would have known that humans are only told they're a human and not a specific name. The only reason I said Doughnut was because my own role PM confused me. >.< I honestly cannot believe I blew that.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 01, 2013, 01:34:21 PMIf I were a wolf, why would I claim an actual human name to BDS?
lol you serious bro
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 01, 2013, 01:34:21 PMI would have known that humans are only told they're a human and not a specific name.
Hey, what if you didn't know? :O
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 01, 2013, 01:34:21 PMIf I were a wolf, why would I claim an actual human name to BDS? I would have known that humans are only told they're a human and not a specific name. The only reason I said Doughnut was because my own role PM confused me. >.< I honestly cannot believe I blew that.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 01, 2013, 05:56:01 AM-__- I wondered if this would come up again. Crap.
I guess I have to claim now. I am Sarge. In case you didn't notice, I stated that I was paranoid of BDS even before Verm posted his evidence against me. What happened was I was indeed paranoid of BDS, and claimed Doughnut to him, not wanting to reveal my brutality. Because I knew who I was, I assumed the other humans did too. Obviously I didn't read the rules well enough. -___-
Yeah, sorry about that, guys. :-[
These are 2 different arguements ???
How so?
Even though we all know that TZP will probably be lynched, I still agree that we should hold off on the insta. I dont know what his reason is, but I think a day phase is a nice chunck of time to organize things and look over everything.
Basically:
Quote from: Mashi on February 28, 2013, 08:28:39 PMAlso, there's no use in Instaing just yet; we have a whole Day Phase's worth of time to discuss things, so we would be best to use it for the extra time.
And TBWCW, those seem like the same arguments to me. They may not be very good ones, but meh.
QuoteIf I were a wolf, why would I claim an actual human name to BDS? I would have known that humans are only told they're a human and not a specific name.
QuoteWhat happened was I was indeed paranoid of BDS, and claimed Doughnut to him, not wanting to reveal my brutality
QuoteBecause I knew who I was, I assumed the other humans did too
Idk, seemed like they were different to me. Contradicting each other perhaps?
No. Case one was if I had been a wolf. Case two is me being the brutal human.
Never mind about why I thought we had to hold off on the Insta. I originally thought that if we used the Sigma (vote/power revoker) AI on the Meta, he/she wouldn't be able to kill anyone. I was going to have TZP declare a player and then whoever had Sigma could use it on that player in the hopes of increasing the chances that the Meta wouldn't get an AI. If the Meta got an AI,
I think it might be good to insta because some people like Hunter and popo haven't viewed the thread yet, and if we could insta someone before that happened that would decrease the likelihood that the Meta gets an AI. Even if the Meta does get an AI, we'll know because that person will die and we'll be able to count those two out as possible Meta suspects.
You heard the man.
gogogo
So do we have an allaiance leader.
Also, I'm going to vote for FSM, because I'm not entirely convinced of verm's PM. And I don't want to insta anybody.
Yugi, instaing would actually benefit us right now for the reasons verm said. It would give the meta less a chance of getting an AI, and prevent the players who havent seen the thread yet from getting phantoms.
Also I think verm's pm was pretty much confirmed because TZP didnt disagree, and told the thread that he did in fact claim Doughnut
-__- why would I disagree?
I meant that if Yugi thinks that verm or BDS faked the pm about you, you would have pointed it out that it was fake since you're the one who claimed
I have no problem claiming that I have the Epsilon item 1. because I talked to BDS and 2. because if I am lynched the Meta gets my item. Don't believe me? Anyone who gets Epsilon after this phase can ask BDS whether I actually did talk to him and he'll confirm it.
I don't know how to quote it because I sent the message through Sheikah, but in quotation marks:
"Well TZP, it's obvious that wolf was killed because of his claim. Since I publicly claimed vigi, that means that anybody could be the sniper: somebody who did claim to me (one of the few people :P), or somebody who did not.
I would say that Verm is a wolf, but he DID post the PM like I asked him to about the claims, unless you're not a wolf, and he knew about that.
I got another Brutal claim, however, which means that either you or the other claimer isn't telling the truth (the other claimer didn't seem to trust me as well, as he told me that he set the brutal on me :P)."
DAT TONGUE EMOTICON
OK this is not adding up.
This means TZP isn't the Meta because the Meta can't receive items. If TZP isn't the meta, he's either got to be telling the truth or a wolf. If he's a wolf, why didn't the other wolves claim similarly to TZP? I'm guessing the wolves probably aren't communicating well, then.
Leaning towards lynching TZP because of his inconsistency but I can't think of a safety net that allows us to know the identity of the other claimant if TZP is the real brutal. If TZP isn't the brutal, he's a wolf, and he'd be able to tell his wolf partners who the brutal was before dying.
I don't know why BDS thinks I'm a wolf. Yes, I was the only person he told about TZP's claim (at least to my knowledge, but I think he'd have said other people's names if there were others). But I have no more incentive to kill BDS than anyone else does.
I'm all for instaing TZP. Though, if anyone gives me a good reason not to, I'll hold off.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 01, 2013, 06:43:14 PM"Well TZP, it's obvious that wolf was killed because of his claim. Since I publicly claimed vigi, that means that anybody could be the sniper: somebody who did claim to me (one of the few people :P), or somebody who did not.
I would say that Verm is a wolf, but he DID post the PM like I asked him to about the claims, unless you're not a wolf, and he knew about that.
This made me suspicious of Verm. hmmmm
Although TZP, I'm very interested to see what was the PM you sent to BDS that he replied later on.
Also if we don't lynch TZP this phase, the Meta will kill him this phase since he has an A.I. There's no questioning of that.
Although he used his A.I?
Idk how the A.Is work. Aren't they distributed in the end of the phase or did Sheikah distribute the Epsilon right after he used it? He said the Meta would get the Epsilon A.I if he's lynched so I assume it'll stay with him until the end of the phase.
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 26, 2013, 05:25:01 PMAfter they are used, they are randomly given to another player.
But the thing is that when they are given to another player?
Judging on the description, I'd say immeaditially.
But TZP's A.I. says he can talk Freely with dead players, does that mean his lasts a phase or until he indicates he's finished?
TZP because I'm not convinced. The basic thing is that if you false-claim to the alliance leader, you're not a human.
TZP
Sorry, bro!
So TZP received a brutal claim. If you're so certain of being the real brutal, why won't you share the name of that person? According to you, he must be lying then.
God I'm inactive. But yeah, TZP is the way to go.
I'm pretty sure this means TZP is dead, right? 8 out of 13 is an insta.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 02, 2013, 05:25:41 AMSo TZP received a brutal claim. If you're so certain of being the real brutal, why won't you share the name of that person? According to you, he must be lying then.
I haven't received a brutal claim. That's just what BDS said.
Quote from: Mr. Tanooki Suit on March 02, 2013, 10:01:41 AMI'm pretty sure this means TZP is dead, right? 8 out of 13 is an insta.
Yep :(
To the Director of Project Freelancer, from the Oversight Sub-committee Chairman.
Dear Director,
Due to recent confusion over the... maintenance of A.I. constructs, I find it necessary to remind you of our protocol and limitations. In the event that one of your soldiers is killed in the field with an A.I. construct, a recovery team must be sent out immediately, due to the possibility of theft of valuable UNSC property. We do acknowledge however, that recovery teams are limited. Thus, even if a solider has recently used one of our A.I. constructs, they are still susceptible to attack and their A.I. may not be recovered. I hope you will not take these standard protocols lightly.
I-I-I-INSTA!!!
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue
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1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
TheZeldaPianist275 was beaten to death with his own skull.
Mr. Tanooki Suit took the wrong teleporter and was never seen again.
It is now Night 2. Night 2 will end March 3, 10 PM EST.
Triple post FTW
QuoteA player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega).
I probably forgot to mention this specifically, but Omega is redistributed each phase, regardless of use.
Gj negating his brutal.
TIME WARP!
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue
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1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
Gamma has altered time.
It is now Day 2. Day 2 will end March 4, 10 PM EST.
High fives everyone, guess who negated the wolfing.
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Guys you know what this means. We should abuse the phase ending A.I. like FSM just did. Who ever gets the phase ending A.I should do what FSM just did, end the Night immediately as it begins. I recommend making the PM ready beforehand and as soon as the clock hits 10 PM EST, you should press the send button.
Also I'm now highly convinced that FSM is a human. I doubt the Meta would have got the phase ending A.I. this early in the game. Although anything can be possible, that's why I recommend the player with the phase ending A.I. claim to FSM, just to make sure it would be used the next Night(if the phase ending succeeds next Night, it is confirmed that FSM is not the Meta). This opens up a chance for a human alliance, featuring FSM as the leader. A wolf would not end the Night early, this is certain.
I agree.
Until the wolves get the A.I., anyway. Or the Meta dies.
I'll be expecting the Gamma claim.
Lets make it a bigger A.I. show, shall we?
We should search for The Meta like the HSM, if it is as easy in this game as it was then. FSM should become The Meta Hunt leader, because the time warp will not be counterclaimed. The past and current A.I. holders should PM FSM which A.I. they had/have and possibly prove the use of a used A.I., for example, by sharing a seering result or whatever the A.I. does. Then FSM could post in the thread if he had two or more claims of the same A.I at the same time. Also a list of the guys who haven't had an A.I. every phase could be useful, because The Meta is on the list.
If you have an A.I., use it and PM FSM that you did. Prove it if possible. The new holder should claim FSM the moment he/she receives the A.I. If Gamma isn't claimed after use, it's a shame, but that's another hunt then. The Meta can't claim any A.I.s, because then nobody would claim the A.I. The Meta used.
Claimers gogogo. The Meta Hunter FSM, brace yourself, the A.I. claims are coming.
Wait, is it possible for the Meta to randomly receive AI units? I thought it wasn't in earlier versions of the game but it isn't in the current game description.
And Now we have nothing to go off for our lynch.
Quote from: Yugi on March 02, 2013, 01:22:44 PMAnd Now we have nothing to go off for our lynch.
This is the part where people start claiming to me and we sort out the counterclaims.
Wait, what? No.
Don't claim. Just because he ended the Night Phase early does not mean that he's a confirmed Human; a Wolf could easily have done so to be 'confirmed' and received the claims. A conversation I've had with FSM-Reapr makes me highly suspicious of him. I've had a suspicion of him for a short while due to something else he mentioned in the main Skype chat, I'll work on a post to make sense of stuff, but don't claim to him.
EXACTLY MASHI.
And can you please show me that chat log?
At the very least tell him if you received an AI unit yesterday or if you have one currently. Maybe wait a little bit on this one because I'm not 100% sure the meta can't receive items.
Claimed to FSM. Even though I probably shouldn't have. :-\
I claimed also.
Yeh, guys I don't like how we are confirming someone due to 1 action they performed. Don't like that. I've also been suspicious of FSM due to reasons I forget. :P
My suspicions are of FSM-Reapr and TheBoyWhoCriedWolf.
TheBoyWhoCriedWolf:
False claimed Seer. How do I know this? I'm the Seer. I claimed to BlackDragonSlayer at the last minute (because I was worried that not everyone had viewed the topic yet , so he probably didn't receive it on time. I'll screenshot it (because I checked the box in my profile that says to save all my sent messages for once, so take that forum!!!) as proof. Further suspicion of him is warranted due to FSM-Reapr's post claiming to view TheBoyWhoCriedWolf's with a grain of salt, which I'll explain in FSM-Reapr's section.
FSM-Reapr:
My initial suspicion began (probably erroneously) based on this:
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[3/1/2013 7:25:34 PM] Saria: XDDD
[3/1/2013 7:25:56 PM] Saria: [removed so I don't embarrass a member]
[3/1/2013 7:26:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [I removed the name because I don't want things to become personal by it being more public]
[3/1/2013 7:26:26 PM] Saria: XD
[3/1/2013 7:26:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3/1/2013 7:26:42 PM] Saria: aiyiyiyi!
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im a wuff in the current twg
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Saria: [removed because name]
[3/1/2013 7:26:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [removed also]
[3/1/2013 7:26:56 PM] Saria: o
[3/1/2013 7:26:58 PM] Saria: xD
[3/1/2013 7:27:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: naah
[3/1/2013 7:27:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3/1/2013 7:27:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: or am i
[3/1/2013 7:27:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: =O
FSM-Reapr:
Spoiler
[5:53:57 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: fsm-reapr
[5:54:04 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: you do realise that im playing in twg right
[5:54:09 AM] Otso Syrjänen: Yeah.
[5:54:25 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[5:54:27 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: you said jk
[5:54:29 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: afterwards
[5:54:31 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: nvm
[5:54:35 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[5:54:36 AM] Otso Syrjänen: lol that
[5:54:40 AM] Otso Syrjänen: XD
[5:54:49 AM] Otso Syrjänen: Dude told me to delete that.
[5:54:56 AM] Otso Syrjänen: I was like nu-uh
[5:55:20 AM] Otso Syrjänen: On 2.3.2013, at 2.30, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
> It was merely a joke and I know people will understand it
[5:55:40 AM] Otso Syrjänen: also I had no caps in that
[5:55:46 AM] Otso Syrjänen: so yeah :P
So I had begun to suspect him since yesterday. Today, we had this long conversation:
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[3:48:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi do you have the A.I Gamma?
[3:48:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No.
[3:48:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Too bad.
[3:48:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I have no AIs. :(
[3:49:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Don't lie to me
[3:49:18 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3:49:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know you'd say that even if you had one
[3:49:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: But
[3:49:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I don't. :(
[3:50:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: my meta is on you today
[3:50:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3:50:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: i will help the humans by wasting a meta
[3:50:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm confused.
[3:50:59 PM] Otso Syrjänen: no one would die
[3:51:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Metas are the same as AIs???
[3:51:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: meta = meta kill
[3:51:36 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You're the Meta?
[3:51:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What do you mean by "my meta is on you today?"
[3:52:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im the meta
[3:52:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and i would be wasting a kill
[3:52:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Because I believe you!!!
[3:52:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[3:53:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Wait, why do you want to help the Humans if you're the Meta?
[3:53:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I was merely kidding
[3:53:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: lol
[3:53:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: People are making me the Meta Hunter
[3:53:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: idk
[3:54:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: maybe youre the
[3:54:11 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: metawolf please
[3:54:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: darn
[3:54:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: you caught me
[3:54:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: B)
[3:54:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: gg
[3:55:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: anyways
[3:55:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi
[3:55:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: start working on those Superlatinodancers!!!
[3:56:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I want to see what I won before I leave. :(
[3:57:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'll make sure to do iyours before your departure then!
[4:01:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi
[4:02:15 PM] Otso Syrjänen: people are legitimately claiming to me
[4:02:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what do i do
[4:02:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait what happened
[4:02:45 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I negated the Night phase
[4:02:52 PM] Otso Syrjänen: it's Day again
[4:03:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's all?
[4:03:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And people are claiming to you???
[4:03:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: read the thread
[4:03:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I know you did that, but
[4:03:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's the only reason people claimed to you?
[4:03:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk
[4:03:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or someone.
[4:03:36 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Whichever.
[4:03:41 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's frivolous.
[4:03:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Waddle's and Hunter's posts were convincing
[4:03:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: help
[4:04:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im the alliance leader now
[4:04:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: And I'm leaving soon
[4:04:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: D:
[4:04:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: They claimed Roles or having Gamma or...?
[4:05:00 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi if you're a wuff please wolf me
[4:05:05 PM] Otso Syrjänen: plz
[4:05:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm not. :(
[4:05:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I can't tell ]:)
[4:05:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jurk
[4:05:39 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ur always teh wuff please
[4:06:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:06:43 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No but seriously, if you're a wuff please kill me
[4:06:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: D:
[4:07:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You could always find a replacement.
[4:07:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I don't wanna be the alliance leader :(
[4:07:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It's nothing to worry about, don't worry.
[4:07:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im too good in twg
[4:08:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I end up as the alliance leader when I don't want to
[4:08:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:08:39 PM] Otso Syrjänen: my kind of luck
[4:09:32 PM] Otso Syrjänen: K so I now knoe the identity of the seer
[4:09:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: yaaay
[4:09:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:10:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: staph it people
[4:10:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: plz
[4:10:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[4:11:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: back
[4:12:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yay.
[4:14:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: how do you share skype chats
[4:14:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: sending this log to sheikah just in case
[4:14:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste.
[4:14:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:14:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[4:29:43 PM] Otso Syrjänen: So Mashi
[4:29:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Let's get serious fr a while
[4:30:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay.
[4:30:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Do you feel safe claiming to me?
[4:30:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Whom are you suspicious of?
[4:30:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I suppose.
[4:30:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Okay, do you have anything to be claimed
[4:31:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No.
[4:31:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Actually, yes.
[4:31:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I am the Please!!!
[4:31:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: You're a human without powers, right?
[4:31:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ya
[4:31:44 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Kä
[4:31:47 PM] Otso Syrjänen: *K
[4:31:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And you're a Wolf???
[4:32:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm actually a human without powers
[4:32:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Why were you asking me in particular of whether I had a claim?
[4:33:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I do that to everybody I'll chat with.
[4:33:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Who have you chatted with?
[4:33:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: It's important we'll get the alliance going.
[4:33:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Verm.
[4:33:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and received PMs from people
[4:33:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What I suspect.
[4:33:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Is that I'm the Herring
[4:34:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: One of the Wolves seered me Blue.
[4:34:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And then you decided to check whether I was a Special by asking that question.
[4:34:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: How do you know?
[4:34:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because you asked me specifically if I would claim.
[4:34:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And then asked me whether I was a Special.
[4:35:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Well, Human.
[4:35:13 PM] Otso Syrjänen: To be honest Mashi, I kinda set a trap for you.
[4:35:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:35:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because you're a Wolf???
[4:36:06 PM] Otso Syrjänen: On 2.3.2013, at 23.09, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
> K so I now knoe the identity of the seer
[4:36:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi 11:10:42 PM Viewing Who's Online.
[4:36:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: kinda sketchy
[4:36:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Lying about receiving a Seer claim is sketchy???
[4:36:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: isn't*
[4:37:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No one said I was lying.
[4:37:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:37:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I only decided to tell you about it.
[4:37:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You were; there were no hidden users and blueflower999 was the only TWGer online at the time, and he wasn't sending a message.
[4:38:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: And you rush to see who could have sent the PM.
[4:38:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: The problem with your argument
[4:38:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Is that I would have checked Whois Online whether I was a Human or a Wolf.
[4:39:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Fun fact: I received the PM 10:56:49 PM
[4:39:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: could you convert that to est for me
[4:39:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It's 4:39PM right now for me.
[4:39:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: 14 min before you checked WO
[4:39:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: 3:56PM???
[4:39:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[4:40:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I don't see why anyone would claim to you anyway, however.
[4:40:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know my trap wasn't much, but it was merely to see your reaction.
[4:40:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Your lie is difficult to believe in.
[4:40:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TheBoyWhoCriedWolf claimed Seer in the thread.
[4:40:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what lie
[4:41:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Your lie about receiving the Seer claim!
[4:41:13 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or claims in general even!
[4:41:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Actually I did receive claims.
[4:42:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi you're acting like you're worried of something.
[4:42:02 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No one rational would claim to you for such frivolous reasons.
[4:42:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ?
[4:42:45 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk You just seem that way compared to your previous style
[4:43:01 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Are you the Meta or the Wolf?
[4:43:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Well, a Wolf, rather.
[4:43:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Why would no one claim to me?
[4:43:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: FSM-Reapr, I clearly don't believe in you having received claims.
[4:43:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No use in arguing for it.
[4:43:42 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And I'm highly suspicious of you currently.
[4:43:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: K
[4:44:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: That can easily be proven
[4:44:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What can?
[4:44:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Me receiving claims.
[4:44:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Screenshot the PM and cross out the name then.
[4:45:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'll just tell the people to say publicly they claimed to me.
[4:45:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or that.
[4:45:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[4:45:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: XD
[4:45:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Wait, no, that's dumb.
[4:46:03 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because since ostensibly the Seer claimed to you, he/she would be one of the claimers.
[4:47:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Hmmm
[4:47:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait
[4:47:33 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You asked people to claim to you in the thread.
[4:47:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And now everything makes sense.
[4:47:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:48:21 PM] Otso Syrjänen: How does something suddenly make sense lol
[4:49:21 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait, omg
[4:49:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ive made so much sense of stuff
[4:49:32 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: thx fsm
[4:49:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:49:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TIME FOR A BIG POST.
[4:49:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what are you doing
[4:50:19 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm about to out some Wolves. ;)
[4:50:23 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You included.
[4:53:49 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: btw I see you sending that message.
[4:54:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Ya it's about telling people to claim publicly
[4:54:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: stalker!!!!
[4:54:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Screencap it.
[4:54:54 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:54:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or better yet, copy and paste it.
[4:55:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:55:03 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What you have so far.
[4:55:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And give it to me on Skype.
[4:55:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I just started lol
[4:55:46 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm listening Black and White soundtrack on Youtube
[4:56:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I haven't written anything yet
[4:56:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: but I will now!
[4:56:35 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste the Youtube link.
[4:56:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Right now.
[4:56:43 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: 5 seconds!!!
[4:56:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:56:54 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TIME'S UP.
[4:57:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You're caught, FSM-Reapr!
[4:57:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WxgaDW6LUY
[4:57:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: there lol
[4:57:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: idk
[4:57:54 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Should it really take so long for you to copy and paste a simple link?
[4:57:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: In no way I could have got to Youtube and search that song
[4:58:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yes, you could have!
[4:58:18 PM] Otso Syrjänen: -___-
[4:58:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Hmm, wait.
[4:58:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:59:23 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Checking something.
[4:59:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[5:00:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: How did you find that video?
[5:00:49 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I mean, how did you find it in the first place?
[5:02:17 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Sending another message???
[5:02:35 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste it!!!
[5:03:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: FSM-Reapr!!!
[5:06:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Are you there nowww?
[5:12:28 PM] Otso Syrjänen: WOW
[5:12:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: INSANE LAG
[5:12:44 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[5:12:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You should copy and paste the message now then!
[5:13:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I hate that little ball
[5:13:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: JESUS
[5:13:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: MY FIREFOX IS LAGGING BIG TIME
[5:14:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay.
[5:14:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: wait
[5:14:32 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[5:14:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste it before you go.
[5:14:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: laptopoverheating
[5:15:04 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I can't copypasta anything on firefox
[5:15:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yes, you can. :/
[5:15:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: There is this circle of death
[5:15:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste has nothing to do with browser.
[5:15:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[5:15:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No, there is this circle that doesn't allow you to click on anything
[5:16:04 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[5:16:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: overheating
[5:19:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: backk
[5:20:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Hi.
I would like you to tell publicly that you claimed to me. Don't tell what you claimed, just that you claimed.
[5:20:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It took your computer 3 minutes to stop overheating.
[5:20:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: sent to Waddle Bro, sending it to other people too
[5:20:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Ya
[5:20:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And also took you 3 minutes to write that?
[5:20:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You wouldn't even have needed to copy and paste it, you could have typed it out.
[5:21:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Why did you single out Waddle Bro?
[5:21:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm sending it to other people also, but laptop started being a pain in the ass.
[5:23:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and wb is my wuff partner duh
[5:23:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[5:23:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm not so sure to believe that.
[5:24:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Sounds like you're placing a red herring since I'm accusing you!
[5:26:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Actually, I think I'm pretty safe.
Bolded parts are most important. I initially didn't believe that FSM-Reapr was receiving any claims because I didn't realise people said in the topic that people should claim to him, so we argued about that for a while in the middle.
I became immediately suspicious of FSM-Reapr when he asked me specifically if I trusted him and would claim to him. Reason being as I mentioned; I suspected that I was seered Blue and he wanted to verify whether I was an actual Special or the Herring. He couldn't have seered me with the Seering AI (Delta) because he claimed to have used Gamma to end the Phase. Which means that if any seering occurred, it would be because he's a Wolf!
Afterwards, I caught him sending a PM again (FSM-Reapr 04:51:49 PM Sending a message.) and when I questioned why, he stated that it was about making people claim publicly. Even though I clearly stated that doing so under the presumption that all the claims were legitimate would root out Players for possibly being the Seer (which is false, as I'm the Seer!). blueflower999 and WaddleBro, what was the exact time you received the PM? And what did the PM say exactly?
(I asked blueflower999 on Skype and he's said:
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[6:04:41 PM] Blueflower999: Looks like 5:24 PM
[6:04:45 PM] Blueflower999: Our time
[6:04:46 PM] Blueflower999: I think
[6:04:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What about seconds?
[6:04:56 PM] Blueflower999: 12
[6:05:02 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay, thanks.
I left because my mother called me downstairs and when I returned:
[6:47:54 PM] Blueflower999: I'll talk about this later
[6:48:01 PM] Blueflower999: I have to go see a play my sister is preforming in!
[6:48:05 PM] Blueflower999: : D
[6:48:11 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Could you copy and paste it quickly?
[6:48:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's all I'm asking for.
[6:48:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And enjoy your sister's performance!
[6:48:29 PM] Blueflower999: Fine
[6:48:30 PM] Blueflower999: But just for you :P
[6:48:31 PM] Blueflower999: Hi.
I would like you to tell publicly that you claimed to me. Don't tell what you claimed, just that you claimed.
[6:48:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Thanks.
[6:48:43 PM] Blueflower999: Bye!
[6:48:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Byeee.
[6:48:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Tell her I said she was super ultra coll!
So FSM-Reapr's claim of sending it was legitimate, but the timing is waaay off.
Anyhow, when I asked him to copy and paste the message, he said he didn't start it yet (something which may be legitimate, I'm not so sure). He claimed to have been listening to Youtube Pokemon music at the time. When asked to copy and paste it, it took him about 48 seconds to do so (between when I told him to and when he actually did). He claims also that there was no way to have gone to Youtube to search that piece, which implies that he must have had that link opened still when I asked him to copy and paste it. Furthermore, try it out yourself; it takes no more than 5 seconds to copy and paste a link somewhere. Even with lag, it would take much less than 48 seconds (and even if FSM-Reapr wasn't lagging at the time, he didn't use it as an excuse at the time, so I highly doubt that he was lagging, as he would have mentioned it if he were). Using my sneaky tactics, I discovered that he was subscribed to the creator of the video:
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[6:38:14 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: hey fsm
[6:38:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I didn't mention it before, but
[6:38:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That Pokemon piece is A+++.
[6:38:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ya
[6:38:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[6:38:44 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know right
[6:38:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Jazz is super coll.
[6:39:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: correct
[6:39:17 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ;)
[6:39:28 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ;)
[6:39:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Also, circle nine is best number.
[6:40:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: correct again
[6:40:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: should i subscribe to this person
[6:40:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk
[6:41:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: are you subscribed to this person
[6:41:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ya
[6:41:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'll subscribe then!!!
[6:41:38 PM] Otso Syrjänen: icy wat u did thar
[6:41:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ;)
[6:41:50 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ;)
[6:42:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: dun
[6:42:42 PM] Otso Syrjänen: wat
[6:42:50 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Subscribing.
[6:42:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
As the video was new, I'm suspecting that he went to Youtube and probably clicked the first video on his homepage feed.
Anyhow, he started sending another message (FSM-Reapr 04:59:42 PM Sending a message.) and when I asked him to inform me of its comments about 3 minutes later, he complained of lag (first time I've heard of it happening. Waddle Bro, can you confirm whether that happens consistently?). What perfect timing! Anyhow, he stated that his laptop was overheating (more perfect timing!) and stated that he would brb. Yet he returned 3 minutes later. I don't know about other laptops, but from what I know about mine (because we all know I apparently have the worst laptop and computers ever!!!), it does not take 3 minutes whatsoever for a laptop to stop overheating. And when a laptop is put on rest, sleep, or shut down, Skype is logged out of (or at least, that's what happens to mine); but FSM-Reapr was online Skype the whole time!
Anyhow, he claimed to have sent the messages to Waddle Bro (specifically) and others. I think he wanted to place a red herring on him, as I mentioned in the log, but I'm not too sure; it's just speculation.
Anyway, one last reason I suspect FSM-Reapr, aside from his most likely telling of lies, is this. (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?action=post;quote=201086;topic=5412.15;last_msg=201783)
I could see him saying this if he were the Seer (he's not) or a Wolf (he probably is). Maybe as a Human too, but if he were a Human, I would imagine that he would state reasons for doing so (said reasons being that he would have expected TheBoyWhoCriedWolf to have read the game before claiming). I think that FSM-Reapr is a Wolf who said that in order to create separation between him and the false claiming TheBoyWhoCriedWolf in case TheBoyWhoCriedWolf was ascertained to be false claiming, by which FSM-Reapr would appear more Human as a result.
Anyway, here are my two messages to BlackDragonSlayer:
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(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi48.tinypic.com%2F34rccw7.jpg&hash=e45f3af3edfcac9dffa232516fd513ac55be59a8)
WaddleBro was seered Green, also.
This is going to be fun.
I'll make a good reply tomorrow. It's too late for me now.
Okay, read the post.
Don't worry, my defense will come tomorrow! You just wait.
(things like this make TWG very enjoyable)
Quote from: Mashi on March 02, 2013, 04:08:45 PMSpoiler
[3/1/2013 7:25:34 PM] Saria: XDDD
[3/1/2013 7:25:56 PM] Saria: [removed so I don't embarrass a member]
[3/1/2013 7:26:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [I removed the name because I don't want things to become personal by it being more public]
[3/1/2013 7:26:26 PM] Saria: XD
[3/1/2013 7:26:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3/1/2013 7:26:42 PM] Saria: aiyiyiyi!
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im a wuff in the current twg
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Saria: [removed because name]
[3/1/2013 7:26:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [removed also]
[3/1/2013 7:26:56 PM] Saria: o
[3/1/2013 7:26:58 PM] Saria: xD
[3/1/2013 7:27:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: naah
[3/1/2013 7:27:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3/1/2013 7:27:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: or am i
[3/1/2013 7:27:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: =O
Why did you have to delete that stuff D: Now I'm curious
Honestly, I didnt believe TBWCW when he claimed seer. I mean this
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on February 26, 2013, 11:53:21 PMKk I'm church the seer.
doesnt seem like he was legitimately claiming. But then his reaction, after "reading the thread"
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on February 26, 2013, 11:56:43 PMWhat? Oh wait ...ahhhh
This is why I should have read thread first .-.
means that apparently he was serious? I'm not really sure what went on there.
About the soundtrack, heres another thing to think about. If he was listening to a soundtrack, he wouldve had a playlist. Whenever I listen to a soundtrack on youtube, I find a playlist and put it on autoplay so I dont have to click on another link in order to go to the next song in the list (When you copypaste the link in a playlist, it will link to that playlist instead of the individual song, like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXWKhc2qQ6U&list=SPC89AC9766484B28F&index=1)). He still could've been changing the songs after every time, or just kept repeating that one on loop, but theres plenty of better ways to do it. Not that what he was listening to had a huge part in him being suspicious.
Also, heres a dumb question: Do the wolves know each other? Its really late in the game but I realized I dont really know -.-
I have a part in this. I'm still a bit confused this game, especially given Mashi's seer claim. Here's a conversation I had with Mr. T on Night 1.
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19:21 Verm I forgot to tell you that NSM has its own TWG chat
19:22 Mr. T Hi
19:22 Verm hi
19:22 Mr. T And btw, I pulled really crappy shenanigans
19:22 Verm Click on the green "Connect" link: http://search.mibbit.com/search/twgnsm
19:22 Mr. T Stupid TBWCW thretened to have someone snipe me
19:22 Verm wait what
19:22 Mr. T Yeah
19:22 Verm he should not have that authority unless he's a wolf
19:23 Mr. T Oh wait what
19:23 Verm The sniper is a wolf role.
19:23 Mr. T Kill him, then!
19:23 Verm How did he phrase it?
19:23 Verm Did he say something like "Retract your claim or you'll be sniped"?
19:23 Verm because that would imply something different
19:24 Verm the wolves have a sniper role, which allows them to kill one player during the middle of a phase
19:29 Mr. T Yeah, he said that
19:29 Mr. T I think
19:29 Mr. T Here, I'll show it to you
19:30 Mr. T Take back your claim now! There's a sniper, he'll snipe you! Say in the thread "Lol jokes, not really" Or something. If you think I'm a wolf, think again or else I'll have sniped you. If you didn't know, a sniper is someone who can kill any time they want. Which could be now.
19:30 Mr. T That's what he said
19:30 Mr. T I thnk it might just have been an awkward wording
19:30 Mr. T But who knows
19:31 Mr. T I don't trust him, personally
19:31 Verm he probably thinks you're the real seer
19:31 Mr. T Oh, okay
19:31 Mr. T Haha, you're probably a wolf
19:31 Mr. T And now I'll be dying soon
19:31 Mr. T No, I trust you
19:31 Mr. T Mostly
19:32 Mr. T I forgot, is Mashi playing or not?
19:32 Verm he is
I told FSM of this conversation, though I didn't actually send him the text. This conversation is causing me to have serious doubts about Mashi's claim. From this conversation, it's pretty clear that Mr. T didn't have an adequate understanding of what the sniper role does.
If that's the case, there's no reason for him to counterclaim TBWCW -- unless he's the real seer.
Furthermore, Mr. T likes to hang out in the LLF chatroom, which Mashi and I both frequent. That's where this conversation took place. I don't think it's out of the question that Mashi found out Mr. T's role just like I was. Mr. T didn't exactly hide it.
On the flipside, Mashi's means it would make a lot more sense for him to oppose claiming to FSM.
*On the flipside, Mashi's claim means it would make a lot more sense for him to oppose claiming to FSM.
Why is claim bolded?
Because I forgot it in my previous post.
So I just closed the fucking page with all of my text in it. Here we go again!
Going with these in the order they were done.
Quote from: Mashi on March 02, 2013, 04:08:45 PMAnyway, one last reason I suspect FSM-Reapr, aside from his most likely telling of lies, is this. (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?action=post;quote=201086;topic=5412.15;last_msg=201783)
I could see him saying this if he were the Seer (he's not) or a Wolf (he probably is). Maybe as a Human too, but if he were a Human, I would imagine that he would state reasons for doing so (said reasons being that he would have expected TheBoyWhoCriedWolf to have read the game before claiming). I think that FSM-Reapr is a Wolf who said that in order to create separation between him and the false claiming TheBoyWhoCriedWolf in case TheBoyWhoCriedWolf was ascertained to be false claiming, by which FSM-Reapr would appear more Human as a result.
Let me open with this PM I sent to TBWCW and BDS right after I made that post:
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 27, 2013, 12:30:54 AMOf course my post was made to make wolves not to wolf you TBWCW.
I wanted to make him even just a little bit suspicious so the wolves wouldn't wolf him. This was the time where there was only one seer claim.
Now onto the next one: the lies!!!
Quote from: Mashi on March 02, 2013, 04:08:45 PMFSM-Reapr:
My initial suspicion began (probably erroneously) based on this:
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[3/1/2013 7:25:34 PM] Saria: XDDD
[3/1/2013 7:25:56 PM] Saria: [removed so I don't embarrass a member]
[3/1/2013 7:26:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [I removed the name because I don't want things to become personal by it being more public]
[3/1/2013 7:26:26 PM] Saria: XD
[3/1/2013 7:26:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3/1/2013 7:26:42 PM] Saria: aiyiyiyi!
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im a wuff in the current twg
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Saria: [removed because name]
[3/1/2013 7:26:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [removed also]
[3/1/2013 7:26:56 PM] Saria: o
[3/1/2013 7:26:58 PM] Saria: xD
[3/1/2013 7:27:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: naah
[3/1/2013 7:27:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3/1/2013 7:27:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: or am i
[3/1/2013 7:27:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: =O
FSM-Reapr:
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[5:53:57 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: fsm-reapr
[5:54:04 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: you do realise that im playing in twg right
[5:54:09 AM] Otso Syrjänen: Yeah.
[5:54:25 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[5:54:27 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: you said jk
[5:54:29 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: afterwards
[5:54:31 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: nvm
[5:54:35 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[5:54:36 AM] Otso Syrjänen: lol that
[5:54:40 AM] Otso Syrjänen: XD
[5:54:49 AM] Otso Syrjänen: Dude told me to delete that.
[5:54:56 AM] Otso Syrjänen: I was like nu-uh
[5:55:20 AM] Otso Syrjänen: On 2.3.2013, at 2.30, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
> It was merely a joke and I know people will understand it
[5:55:40 AM] Otso Syrjänen: also I had no caps in that
[5:55:46 AM] Otso Syrjänen: so yeah :P
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Dude 2.3.2013 2.29
On 2.3.2013, at 2.26, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
> im a wuff in the current twg
you should probably delete that
2.3.2013 2.29
just in case
Otso Syrjänen 2.3.2013 2.30
lol I don't see why
Dude 2.3.2013 2.30
is anyone here playing?
2.3.2013 2.30
mashi?
Otso Syrjänen 2.3.2013 2.30
It was merely a joke and I know people will understand it
Dude 2.3.2013 2.30
whatever~
2.3.2013 2.30
gl
Otso Syrjänen 2.3.2013 2.31
thx
So I had begun to suspect him since yesterday. Today, we had this long conversation:
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[3:48:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi do you have the A.I Gamma?
[3:48:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No.
[3:48:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Too bad.
[3:48:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I have no AIs. :(
[3:49:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Don't lie to me
[3:49:18 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3:49:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know you'd say that even if you had one
[3:49:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: But
[3:49:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I don't. :(
[3:50:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: my meta is on you today
[3:50:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3:50:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: i will help the humans by wasting a meta
[3:50:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm confused.
[3:50:59 PM] Otso Syrjänen: no one would die
[3:51:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Metas are the same as AIs???
[3:51:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: meta = meta kill
[3:51:36 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You're the Meta?
[3:51:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What do you mean by "my meta is on you today?"
[3:52:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im the meta
[3:52:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and i would be wasting a kill
[3:52:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Because I believe you!!!
[3:52:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[3:53:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Wait, why do you want to help the Humans if you're the Meta?
[3:53:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I was merely kidding
[3:53:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: lol
[3:53:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: People are making me the Meta Hunter
[3:53:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: idk
[3:54:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: maybe youre the
[3:54:11 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: metawolf please
[3:54:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: darn
[3:54:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: you caught me
[3:54:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: B)
[3:54:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: gg
[3:55:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: anyways
[3:55:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi
[3:55:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: start working on those Superlatinodancers!!!
[3:56:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I want to see what I won before I leave. :(
[3:57:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'll make sure to do iyours before your departure then!
[4:01:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi
[4:02:15 PM] Otso Syrjänen: people are legitimately claiming to me
[4:02:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what do i do
[4:02:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait what happened
[4:02:45 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I negated the Night phase
[4:02:52 PM] Otso Syrjänen: it's Day again
[4:03:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's all?
[4:03:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And people are claiming to you???
[4:03:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: read the thread
[4:03:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I know you did that, but
[4:03:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's the only reason people claimed to you?
[4:03:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk
[4:03:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or someone.
[4:03:36 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Whichever.
[4:03:41 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's frivolous.
[4:03:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Waddle's and Hunter's posts were convincing
[4:03:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: help
[4:04:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im the alliance leader now
[4:04:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: And I'm leaving soon
[4:04:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: D:
[4:04:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: They claimed Roles or having Gamma or...?
[4:05:00 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi if you're a wuff please wolf me
[4:05:05 PM] Otso Syrjänen: plz
[4:05:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm not. :(
[4:05:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I can't tell ]:)
[4:05:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jurk
[4:05:39 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ur always teh wuff please
[4:06:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:06:43 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No but seriously, if you're a wuff please kill me
[4:06:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: D:
[4:07:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You could always find a replacement.
[4:07:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I don't wanna be the alliance leader :(
[4:07:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It's nothing to worry about, don't worry.
[4:07:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im too good in twg
[4:08:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I end up as the alliance leader when I don't want to
[4:08:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:08:39 PM] Otso Syrjänen: my kind of luck
[4:09:32 PM] Otso Syrjänen: K so I now knoe the identity of the seer
[4:09:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: yaaay
[4:09:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:10:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: staph it people
[4:10:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: plz
[4:10:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[4:11:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: back
[4:12:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yay.
[4:14:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: how do you share skype chats
[4:14:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: sending this log to sheikah just in case
[4:14:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste.
[4:14:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:14:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[4:29:43 PM] Otso Syrjänen: So Mashi
[4:29:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Let's get serious fr a while
[4:30:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay.
[4:30:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Do you feel safe claiming to me?
[4:30:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Whom are you suspicious of?
[4:30:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I suppose.
[4:30:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Okay, do you have anything to be claimed
[4:31:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No.
[4:31:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Actually, yes.
[4:31:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I am the Please!!!
[4:31:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: You're a human without powers, right?
[4:31:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ya
[4:31:44 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Kä
[4:31:47 PM] Otso Syrjänen: *K
[4:31:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And you're a Wolf???
[4:32:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm actually a human without powers
[4:32:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Why were you asking me in particular of whether I had a claim?
[4:33:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I do that to everybody I'll chat with.
[4:33:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Who have you chatted with?
[4:33:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: It's important we'll get the alliance going.
[4:33:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Verm.
[4:33:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and received PMs from people
[4:33:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What I suspect.
[4:33:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Is that I'm the Herring
[4:34:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: One of the Wolves seered me Blue.
[4:34:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And then you decided to check whether I was a Special by asking that question.
[4:34:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: How do you know?
[4:34:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because you asked me specifically if I would claim.
[4:34:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And then asked me whether I was a Special.
[4:35:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Well, Human.
[4:35:13 PM] Otso Syrjänen: To be honest Mashi, I kinda set a trap for you.
[4:35:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:35:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because you're a Wolf???
[4:36:06 PM] Otso Syrjänen: On 2.3.2013, at 23.09, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
> K so I now knoe the identity of the seer
[4:36:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi 11:10:42 PM Viewing Who's Online.
[4:36:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: kinda sketchy
[4:36:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Lying about receiving a Seer claim is sketchy???
[4:36:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: isn't*
[4:37:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No one said I was lying.
[4:37:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:37:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I only decided to tell you about it.
[4:37:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You were; there were no hidden users and blueflower999 was the only TWGer online at the time, and he wasn't sending a message.
[4:38:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: And you rush to see who could have sent the PM.
[4:38:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: The problem with your argument
[4:38:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Is that I would have checked Whois Online whether I was a Human or a Wolf.
[4:39:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Fun fact: I received the PM 10:56:49 PM
[4:39:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: could you convert that to est for me
[4:39:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It's 4:39PM right now for me.
[4:39:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: 14 min before you checked WO
[4:39:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: 3:56PM???
[4:39:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[4:40:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I don't see why anyone would claim to you anyway, however.
[4:40:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know my trap wasn't much, but it was merely to see your reaction.
[4:40:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Your lie is difficult to believe in.
[4:40:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TheBoyWhoCriedWolf claimed Seer in the thread.
[4:40:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what lie
[4:41:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Your lie about receiving the Seer claim!
[4:41:13 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or claims in general even!
[4:41:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Actually I did receive claims.
[4:42:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi you're acting like you're worried of something.
[4:42:02 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No one rational would claim to you for such frivolous reasons.
[4:42:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ?
[4:42:45 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk You just seem that way compared to your previous style
[4:43:01 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Are you the Meta or the Wolf?
[4:43:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Well, a Wolf, rather.
[4:43:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Why would no one claim to me?
[4:43:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: FSM-Reapr, I clearly don't believe in you having received claims.
[4:43:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No use in arguing for it.
[4:43:42 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And I'm highly suspicious of you currently.
[4:43:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: K
[4:44:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: That can easily be proven
[4:44:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What can?
[4:44:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Me receiving claims.
[4:44:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Screenshot the PM and cross out the name then.
[4:45:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'll just tell the people to say publicly they claimed to me.
[4:45:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or that.
[4:45:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[4:45:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: XD
[4:45:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Wait, no, that's dumb.
[4:46:03 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because since ostensibly the Seer claimed to you, he/she would be one of the claimers.
[4:47:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Hmmm
[4:47:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait
[4:47:33 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You asked people to claim to you in the thread.
[4:47:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And now everything makes sense.
[4:47:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:48:21 PM] Otso Syrjänen: How does something suddenly make sense lol
[4:49:21 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait, omg
[4:49:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ive made so much sense of stuff
[4:49:32 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: thx fsm
[4:49:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:49:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TIME FOR A BIG POST.
[4:49:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what are you doing
[4:50:19 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm about to out some Wolves. ;)
[4:50:23 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You included.
[4:53:49 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: btw I see you sending that message.
[4:54:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Ya it's about telling people to claim publicly
[4:54:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: stalker!!!!
[4:54:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Screencap it.
[4:54:54 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:54:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or better yet, copy and paste it.
[4:55:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:55:03 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What you have so far.
[4:55:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And give it to me on Skype.
[4:55:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I just started lol
[4:55:46 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm listening Black and White soundtrack on Youtube
[4:56:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I haven't written anything yet
[4:56:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: but I will now!
[4:56:35 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste the Youtube link.
[4:56:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Right now.
[4:56:43 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: 5 seconds!!!
[4:56:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:56:54 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TIME'S UP.
[4:57:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You're caught, FSM-Reapr!
[4:57:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WxgaDW6LUY
[4:57:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: there lol
[4:57:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: idk
[4:57:54 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Should it really take so long for you to copy and paste a simple link?
[4:57:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: In no way I could have got to Youtube and search that song
[4:58:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yes, you could have!
[4:58:18 PM] Otso Syrjänen: -___-
[4:58:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Hmm, wait.
[4:58:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:59:23 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Checking something.
[4:59:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[5:00:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: How did you find that video?
[5:00:49 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I mean, how did you find it in the first place?
[5:02:17 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Sending another message???
[5:02:35 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste it!!!
[5:03:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: FSM-Reapr!!!
[5:06:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Are you there nowww?
[5:12:28 PM] Otso Syrjänen: WOW
[5:12:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: INSANE LAG
[5:12:44 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[5:12:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You should copy and paste the message now then!
[5:13:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I hate that little ball
[5:13:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: JESUS
[5:13:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: MY FIREFOX IS LAGGING BIG TIME
[5:14:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay.
[5:14:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: wait
[5:14:32 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[5:14:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste it before you go.
[5:14:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: laptopoverheating
[5:15:04 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I can't copypasta anything on firefox
[5:15:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yes, you can. :/
[5:15:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: There is this circle of death
[5:15:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste has nothing to do with browser.
[5:15:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[5:15:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No, there is this circle that doesn't allow you to click on anything
[5:16:04 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[5:16:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: overheating
[5:19:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: backk
[5:20:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Hi.
I would like you to tell publicly that you claimed to me. Don't tell what you claimed, just that you claimed.
[5:20:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It took your computer 3 minutes to stop overheating.
[5:20:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: sent to Waddle Bro, sending it to other people too
[5:20:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Ya
[5:20:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And also took you 3 minutes to write that?
[5:20:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You wouldn't even have needed to copy and paste it, you could have typed it out.
[5:21:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Why did you single out Waddle Bro?
[5:21:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm sending it to other people also, but laptop started being a pain in the ass.
[5:23:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and wb is my wuff partner duh
[5:23:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[5:23:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm not so sure to believe that.
[5:24:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Sounds like you're placing a red herring since I'm accusing you!
[5:26:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Actually, I think I'm pretty safe.
Bolded parts are most important. I initially didn't believe that FSM-Reapr was receiving any claims because I didn't realise people said in the topic that people should claim to him, so we argued about that for a while in the middle.
I became immediately suspicious of FSM-Reapr when he asked me specifically if I trusted him and would claim to him. Reason being as I mentioned; I suspected that I was seered Blue and he wanted to verify whether I was an actual Special or the Herring. He couldn't have seered me with the Seering AI (Delta) because he claimed to have used Gamma to end the Phase. Which means that if any seering occurred, it would be because he's a Wolf!
Afterwards, I caught him sending a PM again (FSM-Reapr 04:51:49 PM Sending a message.) and when I questioned why, he stated that it was about making people claim publicly. Even though I clearly stated that doing so under the presumption that all the claims were legitimate would root out Players for possibly being the Seer (which is false, as I'm the Seer!). blueflower999 and WaddleBro, what was the exact time you received the PM? And what did the PM say exactly?
(I asked blueflower999 on Skype and he's said:
Spoiler
[6:04:41 PM] Blueflower999: Looks like 5:24 PM
[6:04:45 PM] Blueflower999: Our time
[6:04:46 PM] Blueflower999: I think
[6:04:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What about seconds?
[6:04:56 PM] Blueflower999: 12
[6:05:02 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay, thanks.
I left because my mother called me downstairs and when I returned:
[6:47:54 PM] Blueflower999: I'll talk about this later
[6:48:01 PM] Blueflower999: I have to go see a play my sister is preforming in!
[6:48:05 PM] Blueflower999: : D
[6:48:11 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Could you copy and paste it quickly?
[6:48:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's all I'm asking for.
[6:48:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And enjoy your sister's performance!
[6:48:29 PM] Blueflower999: Fine
[6:48:30 PM] Blueflower999: But just for you :P
[6:48:31 PM] Blueflower999: Hi.
I would like you to tell publicly that you claimed to me. Don't tell what you claimed, just that you claimed.
[6:48:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Thanks.
[6:48:43 PM] Blueflower999: Bye!
[6:48:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Byeee.
[6:48:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Tell her I said she was super ultra coll!
Anyhow, when I asked him to copy and paste the message, he said he didn't start it yet (something which may be legitimate, I'm not so sure). He claimed to have been listening to Youtube Pokemon music at the time. When asked to copy and paste it, it took him about 48 seconds to do so (between when I told him to and when he actually did). He claims also that there was no way to have gone to Youtube to search that piece, which implies that he must have had that link opened still when I asked him to copy and paste it. Furthermore, try it out yourself; it takes no more than 5 seconds to copy and paste a link somewhere. Even with lag, it would take much less than 48 seconds (and even if FSM-Reapr wasn't lagging at the time, he didn't use it as an excuse at the time, so I highly doubt that he was lagging, as he would have mentioned it if he were). Using my sneaky tactics, I discovered that he was subscribed to the creator of the video:
Spoiler
[6:38:14 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: hey fsm
[6:38:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I didn't mention it before, but
[6:38:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That Pokemon piece is A+++.
[6:38:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ya
[6:38:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[6:38:44 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know right
[6:38:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Jazz is super coll.
[6:39:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: correct
[6:39:17 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ;)
[6:39:28 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ;)
[6:39:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Also, circle nine is best number.
[6:40:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: correct again
[6:40:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: should i subscribe to this person
[6:40:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk
[6:41:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: are you subscribed to this person
[6:41:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ya
[6:41:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'll subscribe then!!!
[6:41:38 PM] Otso Syrjänen: icy wat u did thar
[6:41:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ;)
[6:41:50 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ;)
[6:42:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: dun
[6:42:42 PM] Otso Syrjänen: wat
[6:42:50 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Subscribing.
[6:42:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
Anyhow, he started sending another message (FSM-Reapr 04:59:42 PM Sending a message.) and when I asked him to inform me of its comments about 3 minutes later, he complained of lag (first time I've heard of it happening. Waddle Bro, can you confirm whether that happens consistently?). What perfect timing! Anyhow, he stated that his laptop was overheating (more perfect timing!) and stated that he would brb. Yet he returned 3 minutes later. I don't know about other laptops, but from what I know about mine (because we all know I apparently have the worst laptop and computers ever!!!), it does not take 3 minutes whatsoever for a laptop to stop overheating. And when a laptop is put on rest, sleep, or shut down, Skype is logged out of (or at least, that's what happens to mine); but FSM-Reapr was online Skype the whole time!
Anyhow, he claimed to have sent the messages to Waddle Bro (specifically) and others. I think he wanted to place a red herring on him, as I mentioned in the log, but I'm not too sure; it's just speculation.
Obviously I was lying. I can't believe if someone actually believed that BS I came up with.
I was actually sending a PM to my buddy vermverm.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 02, 2013, 02:19:33 PMlog
Sorry for the quality, idk how you post Skype logs
I think we could use this to our advantage. I'll tell people who have claimed to me to post publicly that they claimed to me and Mashi will assume one of them is the seer. He'll most likely assume blueflower's the seer since he was the only one he saw online.
I'm very suspicious of him right now.
Another PM!!!
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 02, 2013, 02:31:15 PMLog continues.
I was writing that PM to you. I didn't want Mashi to know anything that I was sending a PM to you.
And there is your evidence. These PMs prove why I was lying. If I would have told Mashi about these PMs, that would have completely ruined the purpose of the plan. But I'm sure he knew Mr T. was the seer so this utterly failed.
I think this answers to all of your accusations well. 8)
I'll make the post where I blame Mashi for not being the Meta soon. I need a break, lol.
*being the Meta soon.
THIS JUST PROVES I NEED A BREAK
Don't understand why all this alliance buisness is goin on without the seer :(
Oh so yeh, FSM. I like just about completley agree with everything Mashi said and I have no idea why he was helping me :/.
Also if I'm wrong he said he was a normal human which I find strange.
Why did I saw that
*also if I'm wrong he said he's a normal human so we won't lose out on too much.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 03, 2013, 03:35:57 PMI have no idea why he was helping me :/.
idk Maybe because you claimed seer and I was trying to protect you???
I don't know, just the whole way you did it. Like it was so planned and perfectly done or whatever, it's not the only thing that I've got against you anyway.
So just because I made plan to protect you, I'm a wuff.
Oh right I forgot. I'm like the meanest person on NSM, I must be a wuff.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 03, 2013, 03:35:57 PMOh so yeh, FSM. I like just about completley agree with everything Mashi said and I have no idea why he was helping me :/.
Also if I'm wrong he said he was a normal human which I find strange.
Boy is a bit careless now. Do you agree with Mashi even with the fact that he suspected you?
Guys, Mashi is (probably) The Meta and TBWCW is a wolf (for sure, I think). Victory for the humanity. Except for that we need one more wolf.
Also keep those claims coming to FSM, for if Mashi won't turn out to be The Meta.
Also the fact that Tanooki probably was the seer doesn't help either TBWCW or Mashi.
Quote from: Hunter of Souls on March 03, 2013, 04:02:55 PMGuys, Mashi is (probably) The Meta
Do you have a reason for this aside from blindly believing in a public Seer claim on Night 1?
Good job with your defense, FSM. I thought you were screwd after I saw you lied about all of that shiz.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 03, 2013, 03:36:55 PM*also if I'm wrong he said he's a normal human so we won't lose out on too much.
Are you serious with that attitude? That's not how you think in TWG. Also if you're against someone, perhaps consider giving a proper reason.
I'm waiting on FSM's opinion on who we should lynch. He's currently the one I trust the most.
ninja'd x5
Quote from: Mashi on March 03, 2013, 04:11:12 PMDo you have a reason for this aside from blindly believing in a public Seer claim on Night 1?
The whole LLF stuff sounds too suspicious, and I wonder why haven't you already suspected verm if you two are the only ones that were able to get the Tanooki episode stuff. I mean, you of course think you aren't The Meta, so verm must be, 'cause Tanooki died. Why didn't you think of that? Plus the fact that FSM has quite a defense on the blame you sent against him.
Just read verms point and FSM's defense and realize you are starting to sound suspicious. Also, brace yourself, The Meta explanations from FSM are coming!
But whatever, I'm going to sleep, I might be able to sleep for three hours.
This is the point in TWG games where I can picture the host sitting back in his chair and laughing maniacally because he knows everything and he gets to watch us scramble and be confused about everything
or am i the only one whos really confused right now
Quote from: Hunter of Souls on March 03, 2013, 04:33:41 PMThe whole LLF stuff sounds too suspicious, and I wonder why haven't you already suspected verm if you two are the only ones that were able to get the Tanooki episode stuff.
vermilionvermin was able to get the Mr. Tanooki Suit episode stuff, not me. vermilionvermin recognises that Mr. Tanooki Suit was in the chat at the time and that I was capable of PMing him and being divulged to that information; an event that did not occur. I wasn't even active Night 1, frankly, and was away from the computer.
QuoteI mean, you of course think you aren't The Meta, so verm must be, 'cause Tanooki died. Why didn't you think of that? Plus the fact that FSM has quite a defense on the blame you sent against him.
I don't follow, even if I were the Meta. TWG isn't always as simple as Process of Elimination.
QuoteJust read verms point and FSM's defense and realize you are starting to sound suspicious. Also, brace yourself, The Meta explanations from FSM are coming!
But whatever, I'm going to sleep, I might be able to sleep for three hours.
"sound suspicious" isn't an explanation, it's a statement. Also, you shouldn't base your suspicions solely on those of others; think independently and don't be a sheep!!!
Sheikah, do A.Is redistribute immediately after use, or in the beginning of the phase?
But seriously guys, you should tell me if you have an A.I.
Safety on Hunter of Souls
My suspicions right now
1. TBWCW: His attack of FSM seems a little...odd...perhaps I don't know all of the context behind it.
2. Mashi: There have been a few whisperings of him being the Meta? Wouldn't doubt it.
Oh, that reminds me, can AIs be traded? And if they can, does the trade occur immediately or at the end of the Phase? So, for example, if Player A trades AI 1 to Player B during Phase 1, can Player B use AI 1 during Phase 1?
Are some of you seriously basing suspicions on me being Meta based on hearsay? I thought I raised some of you NSMers better than that! If you're going to suspect me, at least have your own reasons and not just copy others'. Especially if you don't even know the reasons of others.
Aggreeing with my apparant wolf partner here.
Fsm has done ONE thing and he's human?
Now Mashi's meta or wolf or whatever because FSM said so. I have not got a calue.
Let's be serious here for a while.
I tried to protect you when you claimed seer.
I've been coming up plans that try to help the human team, such as ending the Night phase early and I'm trying to do it again so no kills would be made.
idk about you, but I've done the best I could for the human team as I could have.
Voting TBWCW for now. I'll look in full when I get home.
Someone remind me to make a TWG Dos and Don'ts Guide after this game.
I will vote again when I get home.
It's not just you, don't worry.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 03, 2013, 04:58:04 PMSheikah, do A.Is redistribute immediately after use, or in the beginning of the phase?
At the beginning of the phase.
Quote from: Mashi on March 03, 2013, 05:12:21 PMOh, that reminds me, can AIs be traded?
No they cannot.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on March 03, 2013, 04:34:59 PMThis is the point in TWG games where I can picture the host sitting back in his chair and laughing maniacally because he knows everything and he gets to watch us scramble and be confused about everything
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After reading. I decided to keep my vote on Boy because
1. He is most definatly not the seer.
2. He threatened to have someone sniped.
3.His bandwagon on mashi was weird.
From what I've gathered, the snipe threatening was Mr. T misinterpreting what TBWCW was saying.
Everyone, try to post a suspicion list before the Day Phase ends.
Can I just say my main suspicions, rather than Posting my thoughts on everyone?
Sure. Try to provide reasons why too, however.
1 Fsm- He's been acting strange all game. He's an alliance leader or whatever now because he ended a night phase early... I the logs Mashi posted he lied loads of times on simple, simple things. Why would you lie about them? You must have been hiding something?
2. Verm- It seems like Verm is being trusted by everyone through pm's, I don't know why or how but he just is. I want to know why!!! After Mr.T claimed and Wolf made some sort of statement he went to chat with them both afterwards (seperately) He then discussed about their role.. Then he posted the log in thread and stated his opinion on them and if he believed them or not... Like hello, that was the guardian and possible seer you were dealing with there.
3. Yugi- He just voted for me due to 3 false reasons.
Why am I not the seer? I don't get it, like seriously. I don't see how I could have been out of character or whatever.
I didn't threaten to snipe Mr. T, you read like the first sentence of that post, read the end and you'll see Verm made Mr. T realise I was trying to save him since by the way he posted it looked like he was human just trying to cover up the seer or whatever idk.
And I had a bandwagon on Mashi? I haven't voted Mashi, and not even sure if I've voted 'with' Mashi, it's not a bandwagon if I give reasons.
I don't know why people are arbitrarily trusting me, but I don't see how it makes me a wolf given the fact that the two biggest culprits of trusting me are BDS and Mr. T, both of whom are almost certainly humans.
I can't really defend my actions with regards to wolf. I told people he wasn't the guardian, which increased the likelihood that the wolves wolfed the real one. Luckily, it didn't end up hurting the humans, since the wolves killed (as far as I know) a normal human.
However, I think you're misconstruing how I handled Mr. T's claim, which I think I did very well. I didn't approach him to discuss his claim. I approached him because he was in the LLF chat and not the NSM one (I was in both at the time and realized I had forgotten to mention the NSM one). He then apologizes for his "shenanigans" and says you (TBWCW) threatened to have someone snipe him. Discussion naturally shifts to the PM he received from you which he interpreted as a threat to snipe him. Realizing this is information that other people probably shouldn't know, I don't share it until absolutely necessary. Mashi claimed seer. As a human who had reason to believe Sage's claim to the seer role was the strongest, I posted the log.
Still working on spots 2-6 of the suspicion list. I'll have it up tomorrow.
Ah. You're just 2 because I have an urge to know what you did to make them trust you..
You're probably more 3 though. Idk.
I aint got many thoughts about.
TBWCW, did you even read my defense? That should perfectly explain why I was lying to Mashi.
Working on a suspicion list also.
Boy. Sorry! You've been acting weird and your suspicions don't make sense. That along with a false claim makes me think you're wuff!
Okay, I guess it's time.
I am a normal human. I claimed seer to try and get the snipe to snipe me, since personally I think a seer is more important than a vig and if I claimed guardian that'd just look awful.
As soon as I claimed though I told Verm and BDS that I was only a normal human, I didn't save the pm when I sent it so if Verm would be kind enough to reveal to thread that'd be good.
This also explains why I said to Mr. T to take back his claim and didn't mention anything about him being wolf or me being seer.
Also it's dumb for wolf/meta to claim normal human since their seered green or whatever.
Oh and I didn't take my claim back earlier because I figured it's better a normal human dying than some other special role.
No. TBWCW shouldn't be our target this Day Phase.
Don't get me wrong, I do think TBWCW is a wolf. But, I think lynching the Meta suspect is more important.
Mashi. Let me explain my intentions.
If you think TBWCW is a wolf, this theory will explain why Mashi is not the seer:
TBWCW claimed seer.
Mr. T counterclaimed him.
Mashi counterclaimed them.
If TBWCW is a wolf, that means Mr. T cannot be a wolf since otherwise he counterclaimed his wolf partner. That makes no sense whatsoever. Mr. T cannot also be the Meta, since the A.I. units are still in play. This means Mr. T was telling the truth all along since he can't be a wolf or the Meta. This is the main reason why I think Mashi is lying.
Here are vermverm's thoughts that I agree with:
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 02, 2013, 02:19:53 PMGreen means I doubt it, red means I'm suspicious. Black is neutral.
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf: I don't think he's the Meta because of his seer claim on night 1. The fact that he claimed seer was really risky. If nobody counterclaimed him, there was a good chance he got seered himself or the wolves tried to kill him (and would find out he was the Meta as a result).
10.Mashi: Top suspect at the moment for the Meta. He knows wolf was the guardian. He is the person most likely to have found out that Mr. T was the seer (Mr. T wasn't exactly quiet about it) because Mr. T hangs out in a chat other than NSM's that Mashi and I both frequent. Even if Mr. T didn't tell him his role, I think it's likely he figured it out anyways, or figured out that Mr. T had an AI unit. There are three reasons that I think Mashi is the Meta:
1. I think he's the most likely player to have figured out that Mr. T had an AI unit, and if Mr. T was a Meta kill (which I think is likely) Mashi would have been most likely to know that and have killed him.
2. I think he most likely figured out Mr. T was the seer, who was the biggest threat alive to the Meta's survival.
3. He likely knows that all useful specials are dead. He knows wolf's the guardian and likely knows Mr. T was the seer. And yet he still advocates for you not knowing the roles. That doesn't make sense.
Bolded part important
Yes, wolf was the guardian. Most people seem to know this so I might as well confirm it.
More shiz I think you should know about:
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 02, 2013, 12:56:49 PMMr. T was the seer. Both he and TBWCW told me of their own accord that TBWCW was lying. I thought it was more likely Mr. T in the first place, and I think the wolves/Meta would have figured that out too. This is why I believe that TZP was not the Brutal human and the second death was in fact a result of the Meta guessing who had an item.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 04, 2013, 12:36:35 PMAs soon as I claimed though I told Verm and BDS that I was only a normal human, I didn't save the pm when I sent it so if Verm would be kind enough to reveal to thread that'd be good.
This also explains why I said to Mr. T to take back his claim and didn't mention anything about him being wolf or me being seer.
Dude. You do realize you made the seer counterclaim you. I think it would have been very smart for a wolf to do that. Make the seer counterclaim and you'd seem human.
Seeing as BDS was an alliance leader I was hoping seer would claim to him.
And the sheep began to follow the one (FSM) with the greatest explanation ever. I mean c'mon, what can be added after that? Mashi.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 04, 2013, 01:34:23 PMSeeing as BDS was an alliance leader I was hoping seer would claim to him.
Ohh derp, I even said that why didn't Mr. T claim privately
Anyways, I'm still not entirely convinced after what's been going on this phase.
You guys realize that if Mashi is the Meta, and we lynch him, we can't use Gamma to end night phases and prevent wolfings?
I'm actually willing to take that risk.
The player holding Gamma hasn't claimed to me which makes me think a wolf has it.
There are four possible Roles for Mr. T to have been; Human, Meta, Wolf, or Seer. He can't be Meta because the AIs are still intact, and he's most probably not Wolf because he misinterpreted the Sniper Role.
Which means that he's either a normal Human or Seer. "But wait!" the sheep are saying! "Why would a Human lie??? Ha, we've caught you in your lie, Mashi; we're surely cleverer than you even though you pulling a scheme like this is ridiculous even for you as a Wolf!!!" they continue. Wrong!
I think that the most likely scenario is that Mr. Tanooki Suit was a Human who counterclaimed Seer because he legitimately believed that TheBoyWhoCriedWolf accidentally claimed; his counterclaim would serve to confuse the Wolves while hopefully protecting the Seer.
Furthermore, there is no evidence that Mr. Tanooki Suit even PMed BlackDragonSlayer of his being Seer. All belief in his being Seer is purely speculation, and many of you have accidentally accepted that speculation as fact.
Also, I've seemed to have actually had solid evidence that Mr. Tanooki Suit wasn't the Seer, but didn't realise it until now, because I'm dumb. I forwarded a PM Mr. Tanooki Suit (on LLF, Sage of the Foret) sent to me to vermilionvermin yesterday, but hadn't realised its implications until now. The Seer is incapable of using AIs. However, in the following PM:
Spoiler
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It is rather clear that Mr. Tanooki Suit implies his possession of the Sigma AI and his ability to use it. And his possession of the AI makes sense as well, as discussed between verm verm and I. I would post the log, but I'm having trouble retrieving it from Chatzilla's autosave; verm verm can vouch for it, however. I'll try to find it when I return home later today, though.
Also, stop cherry picking quotes, FSM-Reapr. Those quotes are out of context and are even obsolete at this point due to emergence of new information. I don't know why, but NSMers nowadays often suspect me when I do
absolutely nothing. I'm not sure if I even posted for the first two Phases when people suspected me of being the Meta. Not to say I was inactive, just that I wasn't participating to a large enough degree. I only began making an especially active effort in this game when I began chatting with FSM-Reapr. And he began suspecting me because I suspected him for being ridiculously suspicious. FSM-Reapr's justification came after the fact, so I can't be blamed for finding suspicious actions suspicious.
My suspicion list should be up shortly, hopefully. I have to leave by 6:30PM however, so I don't know how much free time I have.
THE LINK'S NOT WORKING, DUMB.
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THERE.
Come to chat guyss, link for chats in the 'Have it your way' opening post, I'm on phone so can't link it. :<
Totally going to ninja Mashi on this one
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Spoiler
I have proof that Mr. Tanooki Suit wasn't the Seer.
Otso Syrjänen 0.20
Surprised
Little Red Mashi Hood 0.20
I'll even screencap it for you so you know that I'm not forging anything.
Otso Syrjänen 0.20
come at me bro
0.21
You should hurry, I have to go in 40 min and I don't want to lynch the seer!
Little Red Mashi Hood 0.21
I can't believe I didn't realisise this before.
0.21
It'll be quick, give me a few seconds.
0.22
So the Seer can't use AIs.
0.22
I know this, because I'm the Seer.
0.22
And I think it's reasonable for someone to know all about their Role.
Otso Syrjänen 0.22
I know that too
Little Red Mashi Hood 0.22
Since its description is in the Role PM.
0.23
You believe that's reasonable, no?
Otso Syrjänen 0.23
I know that the seer can't use A.Is
Little Red Mashi Hood 0.23
Yup!
0.23
http://tinypic.com/r/14kxgjo/6
0.23
Yet, Mr. Tanooki Suit (Sage of the Forest) inquired to me whether to /use/ his AI.
0.24
Which supports my theory of his being a Human false claiming Seer to try to protect whom he believed was the Seer.
Otso Syrjänen 0.24
wait
0.24
he's just speaking in general
Little Red Mashi Hood 0.24
FSM-Reapr
0.24
You need to accept that you're wrong sometimes and that mistakes were made.
Otso Syrjänen 0.24
I came up with the Sigma idea
0.25
I think he just wanted your opinion on that
Little Red Mashi Hood 0.25
No, FSM-Reapr.
0.25
That's what you want to think.
0.25
Be rational!
Otso Syrjänen 0.25
He didn't say that he had Sigma!!!
Little Red Mashi Hood 0.25
It's implied.
0.25
And it also corroborates past claims.
Otso Syrjänen 0.25
No it's not!!!
Little Red Mashi Hood 0.26
About the AIs.
0.26
Sigh.
0.26
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief_bias
Otso Syrjänen 0.26
oh gawd
Little Red Mashi Hood 0.26
That's what's happening to you right now.
Otso Syrjänen 0.26
wikipedia
0.27
I'll make a post about this before I leave.
I don't see this as evidence.
But here is what I think was going on. Mr. T had the Sigma. Unfortunately he was unable to use it, due of being the seer. And this is where Mashi found out that Mr. T had the Sigma and decided to kill him. He seemed certain in the chat that Mr. T had the Sigma A.I, which makes me even more suspicious of him. What doesn't add up is that why did Mr. T even ask about the Sigma from Mashi. I think that was his big mistake.
Quote from: Mr. Tanooki Suit on March 01, 2013, 11:28:07 AMYeah, that's a great idea.
distraction
This theory would also mean TZP was not the Sarge.
ninja'd damn I don't have time to reply that.
My Internet will now be cut off from the hospital since it's midnight. Sheikah, I don't need to be replaced.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Oh and I'm only in the nsm chat because on my phone and it's really laggy and I'm being open for nsmers to come at me.
I was told to come here so I did.
Catching up currently.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 03, 2013, 04:25:00 PMGood job with your defense, FSM. I thought you were screwd after I saw you lied about all of that shiz.
I just want everyone to be aware of this.
Waddle, I don't get it, why do you trust him so much to look past his lies and congratulate him on making a big post?
Because he shoke off all the suspicions I had of him with that post. He actually had a good reason to lie.
I really distrusted FSM at first, but now hes actually starting to make sense
Thats the problem though. I believe both him AND Mashi. But as it looks right now, they cant both last another phase together. I guess Ill vote for TBWCW because I'm unsure about the previous two. I'll probably go back and change it closer to the end of the phase
1.vermilionvermin - NSMers trust him way too much. He shouldn't have been given so much sensitive information, even if he is Human. verm verm is too good take such risks. He seems extremely Human so far, but I'm keeping an eye on him still. And I advise everyone else to also do the same.
2.BlackDragonSlayer - Vigi.
3.TheZeldaPianist275 - Most likely a Wolf. I would still like to know the other Brutal Human claim, however, to be sure.
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf - I don't know why people find him suspicious. He false claimed Seer in the thread for the alleged reason of sacrificing himself to stop the snipe. This failed with Mr. Tanooki Suit's claim and wolf's acting like Guardian, hence why he's alive now, which were both beyond his control. I ask both you and FSM-Reapr to put your personal differences aside in regard to lynching each other, however; this is a game, not a life event.
5.blueflower999 - I'm not sure if he's paying much attention to the game.
6.K-NiGhT - Inactive. I forgot he was even playing until his latest post.
7.Bubbles7689 - I'm suspicious of her inactivity; she pops by on occasion, but never really contributes to anything, much unlike the Bubbles7689. I suspect she would purposely be inactive as a Wolf to shoo away suspicion as well, ergo, my suspicion of her.
8.Yugi - Inactive; no strong opinion of him.
9.Hunter of Souls - Keeps bandwagoning FSM-Reapr and was quick to point at me for Meta. My intuition is saying he's the Meta, but he hasn't really done much for me to have any serious opinion of.
10.Mashi - i lied about being seer im actually the wolf meta please
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit - Human. The Seer shenanigan (he even said that he caused shenanigans; connoting a false Seer claim on his part!!!) events that took place only make sense if he's Human.
12.FSM-Reapr - He's too resolved and adamantly against me to be a Wolf, I feel. He may be a Wolf trying to be impressive and have me lynched, but eh; I don't think FSM-Reapr is that type of person. What I said about the animosity between you and TheBoyWhoCriedWolf applies to you as well.
13.wolf - Human.
14.Waddle Bro - Not sure, I haven't seen much of him. I feel that he hasn't done anything out of the ordinary as of yet, though. I seered him Green Night 1, and as it was a random seering, I think it's likely that he wasn't painted, so he's hopefully Human.
15. popo447 - Have you even posted???
Currently, I think we should go after the inactives. With the exception of the Seer shenanigans, the only counterclaimed Role (to my knowledge) was that of Brutal Human. Based on that, the Wolves and Meta must naturally be among those who didn't claim. So for the time being, I'll leave my vote Bubbles7689. It may be subject to change after some discussion for the lynch later on, however.
Everyone else should post their suspicion lists as well.
8.Yugi: I can't shake this feeling that you're not a human this game. It probably has to do with the fact that you posted the two things which prompted specials to reveal their roles (wolf and BDS before we'd decided it was good to reveal the seer). When I posted that chatlog I faked with wolf, he rushed to the chatroom, which is kind of odd. Humans have no reason to want to try to get someone to admit to being the guardian. Supporting a rather weak TBWCW lynch isn't helping you either. Neither is the fact that you tried to stall claiming and such to FSM.
5.blueflower999: Inactive enough to not have claimed to BDS, which makes blueflower a really good wolf partner with TZP given TZP's claim. Is also on the TBWCW bandwagon which I think is pretty weak.
7.Bubbles7689: Mashi seems to think you're suspicious. I'll get back to you later.
15. popo447: Signed up for this game. Almost certainly didn't claim to BDS, so possible wolf partner with TZP. Probably isn't the Meta though.
6.K-NiGhT: I'm getting a human vibe from this post (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5412.msg202145#msg202145) in which he talks about why we shouldn't lynch Mashi today. I'm pretty convinced Mashi's the seer, and the wolves would likely be aware of that fact and want Mashi wolfed. That post pretty much closes the door on supporting Mashi lynches today, which isn't strategic from a wolf perspctive. On the other hand, there's also the fact that I could see him not claiming to BDS as a wolf (this happened when I was an alliance leader in an earlier game). I'll keep an eye on him.
9.Hunter of Souls: If he's not a human, he's probably a wolf, but not the Meta. I doubt the Meta would try to get people organized about AIs, especially given that this is one of his first games. That said, I think it's fairly reasonable to think that Mr. T might be the real seer if you don't have much experience playing with Mr. T, who has on one occasion claimed to be the seer just for the fun of it. I can't remember if Mashi had posted his defense or not when Hunter voted. Hunter wasn't active around the time BDS claimed seer I don't think.
14.Waddle bro: Need to see more from you, but I think you were able to claim to BDS, so that puts you behind a few people! I don't like that you're pretty much voting whoever FSM says to vote. If he's human, he isn't going to be much more accurate than you are by yourself.
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf: As a general rule, as support for a lynch goes up and the quality goes down, the likelihood of that person being a wolf goes down. Given the shenanigans that occurred last game, I think it's more likely that TBWCW claimed seer in the hopes that he was sniped than he did hoping the real seer would counterclaim him or something. The TBWCW vote seems pretty sheepy imo.
12.FSM-Reapr: Used Gamma. People are hating on you I think. Seems pretty human to me. I was mildly suspicious of you because of your reaction to one of the seer claims (I think it was TBWCW's) but I think that's more likely to be a human reaction based on the fact that you used the Gamma.
10.Mashi: I'm inclined to believe Mashi is for real about his seer claim. I was really skeptical before because of Mr. T's claim, but there are a lot of nuances about Mashi's claim that make sense. Oh yeah. Mr. Tanooki Suit has a pretty spotty track record (http://llforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=3258&start=40#p148409) in regards to seer claims. In the game I linked, he was the vigi and claimed seer (and tried to get me lynched!) for no reason.
1.Vermilionvermin: 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
I'm of the opinion that TZP was a wolf and Mr. T's death was a Meta kill. Mr. T was a target because of his status as a potential seer. I can't remember TZP expressing any sort of suspicion one way or another about him. Blueflower, K-Night, Bubbles, Hunter, and Popo were all too inactive to claim to BDS iirc. That means they're most likely to be wolf partners with TZP who messed up his claim.
I s chatting with Blue on Skype and he was acting very suspicious, saying things like "Hi" over and over again in just one chat session. Very odd indeed.
Because I've never trolled you like that before, right Popo? ;)
1.Vermilionvermin: Yugi
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf: FSM
5.blueflower999: TBWCW
6.K-NiGhT: Hunter
7.Bubbles7689: TBWCW
8.Yugi: TBWCW
9.Hunter of Souls: Mashi
10.Mashi: Bubbles
12.FSM-Reapr: Mashi
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
Switching over to Bubbles, who was inactive in and around the timing of BDS' claim, which makes her a good potential partner for TZP. I don't like the fact that she hasn't changed her TBWCW vote yet and the phase ends in 28 minutes.
vermillionvermin
Blueflower999
I am sorry I must do this, best friend... :'(
Woah phase end in 28 minutes. Thanks verm XD
I thought about it and I really cant decide between FSM and Mashi. But verm, why are you so set on lynching me? You say it's for inactivity reasons, but I feel like I have been pretty active for my usual standards, and theres plenty of other less active players than me.
I'll admit I've been a little inactive, and I havent read the last phase's posts too well. Once FSM and Mashi started arguing, I tried to see the situation from both sides, and I think I just glazed over everything in confusion :/
Quote from: popo447 on March 04, 2013, 05:19:18 PMI s chatting with Blue on Skype and he was acting very suspicious, saying things like "Hi" over and over again in just one chat session. Very odd indeed.
I dont know you, so I honestly cant tell if you're being serious or not XD
Ninja'd wait
popo is actually serious?
Bubblesso the chat says!
*Bubbles so the chat says! Dang space bar.
Bubbles
lol drama
Person with the Phase ending AI, end the Phase 10 seconds after the Phase ends.
In other words, end it as soon as possible. The Guardian is guarding me too, so we don't need to worry about me being wolfed; only about other people being wolfed!
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTokpPCWHK7RLOZS4fsjOBTs3JkPB5DyHouA5yNP1EtEoe3YAegSQ)
1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs
must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched,
all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer3.TheZeldaPianist2754.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles76898.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
Bubbles7689 was in the middle of an EMP explosion. All A.I. have been destroyed.Message from Theta:
QuoteHere's some porn, I hope you like hooters:
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It is now Night 3. Night 3 will end March 5, 10 PM EST.
And thus the wolf hunt begins.
BTW, I'd appreciate a copy of this chat that was had.
Ask Mashi, I think he has the whole log.
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#TWGNSM
waddle he has not been any help to us
Mashi liggster is totes wuff i agree
waddle no
waddle I think he's the meta
Mashi no way
Mashi hes obv. wuff
Vermilionvermin he'll probably claim seer at some point
Mashi no liggster dont
waddle NO.
waddle META.
Mashi NO.
Mashi WUFF.
Liggy wait
Liggy wtf
waddle NO.
Liggy why are you guys lynching me
waddle POKEMON.
Liggy I'm the Guardian.
Liggy
waddle wait what
waddle im teh guardian
Mashi
Mashi i cc
Mashi im the guardian
Vermilionvermin
Mashi i lied about being the seer
waddle i was seered green
Vermilionvermin i claim werewolf
waddle must be the painter's job
Mashi Oi.
Mashi Only an hour left.
Mashi
Mashi wait what is it 10
waddle
Mashi Oh.
Mashi nvm
Mashi NSM's on CST for me too.
waddle I have no idea who to vote
waddle lawl
Mashi I think we should all agree to vote for someone.
waddle *probopass
waddle ummm
Mashi lol
waddle mashi
Mashi I don't think TheBoyWhoCriedWolf is wolf, to be honest.
Mashi Yes?
waddle because he's obv. meta
waddle duh
waddle jk ofc
Mashi
waddle Do you know who has the Delta/Gamma
waddle (don't tell me)
Mashi No.
Mashi Well, I don't even know which AIs those are, hahaha.
waddle I guess Popo has one
waddle omg
waddle we should lynch popo
waddle meh
Mashi Hmm.
waddle I should totally cause a KitB
waddle naah
Mashi
Mashi I think I may just vote SocialFox with verm verm.
waddle It's hard!
waddle Can I bandwagon
waddle :<
Mashi After some discussion.
waddle k
waddle omg
Vermilionvermin I'd be fine lynching bubbles instead of yugi if it means no tbwcw lynch
waddle Wait
waddle do you know who has omega?
waddle I had it the last phase
Mashi Sorry, I have no clue about AIs!
waddle Mashi
Mashi Waddle Bro.
waddle about the Mario Kart party
Vermilionvermin AI's are important
Vermilionvermin to know who's had what
waddle It's in bad time. :<
Mashi Which one was Omega???
Vermilionvermin to find the meta
Mashi What time would you prefer?
Vermilionvermin the vote one
waddle the x3 vote one
Mashi Uh oh!!!
Mashi inb4 i die from it
waddle wait
waddle Mashi can be screwd
Mashi nooo
Mashi ill let you tell everyone you won our battle
waddle The Omega won't work if the player holding it dies
waddle Sheikah told me
Mashi Does Omega need to be activated?
waddle no
Mashi
waddle the vote effect just negates if the player holding it dies
waddle oh right
waddle the MKWii party
waddle it should be
waddle 12 AM EST
waddle wait
waddle 11 AM EST
Blueflower999 Present
Blueflower999 As long as Mashi doesn't kill me
Mashi We're thinking Bubbles7689 or Yugi right now.
Vermilionvermin I'm going to have to go to dinner mildly soon-ish
Blueflower999 Why, Mashi?
Mashi Inactivity.
waddle blueflower
waddle are you gonna vote TBWCW
Mashi The nonclaimers/inactives are most likely to be Wolves/Meta.
waddle Wait
Vermilionvermin In this game, inactivity's a pretty good reason to lynch someone because of TZP's botched claim
waddle lolol
Blueflower999 Popo...?
waddle omg
waddle My claim
waddle I only sent it to sheikah
waddle I forgot BDS from it
waddle I'll screencap it for you
waddle omg I'm so dumb
Mashi NSM TWG at its finest.
Mashi And what about popo?
Vermilionvermin It's inactivity soon after BDS claimed, which applies to a lot of people
waddle lol
Mashi You want to lynch him, blueflower999?
Vermilionvermin And probably more applicable to bubbles than yugi
Blueflower999 Who, Popo?
Vermilionvermin who did post after the claims
Mashi You mentioned the name.
Blueflower999 I did
waddle We shouldn't kill Bubbles
waddle she's too sweet
Blueflower999 You were talking about lynching inactives
Mashi Why's that?
Mashi
Blueflower999 Popo is the most inactive
Blueflower999 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Blueflower999 SMILEY
Blueflower999 MAKE IT STOP
Mashi : P
waddle why did popo even play
waddle lol
Blueflower999 It was Halo related
Mashi I feel like popo is just useless regardless of his team.
Mashi We may have him seered just in case.
Mashi But I don't want to waste a lynch on him, since he doesn't seem like a threat.
Blueflower999 Mashi is so nice
Blueflower999 So then why are you talking about lynching inactives then?
Mashi theboywhocriedwolf was right, i am super mean
waddle like fsm
Mashi Because the other inactives have more potential of being Wolves, I feel.
Mashi Like Bubbles7689,
Vermilionvermin We're focusing on people who were inactive over a certain span of time
Blueflower999 WAIT
Vermilionvermin which would be the time after BDS claimed
Vermilionvermin and before he died
Vermilionvermin and bubbles' support for the TBWCW lynch is really weird
Mashi Her inactivity is uncharacteristic and I feel she would be the type of Wolf to use inactivity as a strategy.
Blueflower999 Ehh...
Blueflower999 I don't know about that
Blueflower999 Maybe
Mashi Yeah, that as well; though, I'm not suer that Bubbles7689 is the type to bandwagon.
Mashi sure*
Blueflower999 Shower time, brb
Mashi wait what
Mashi We need to vote in 30 minutes!
Vermilionvermin well no
Vermilionvermin it's not the bandwagon but the way she did it
waddle omg
waddle how do you screencap on a mac
Vermilionvermin "I guess Ill vote for TBWCW because I'm unsure about the previous two. I'll probably go back and change it closer to the end of the phase"
waddle fucking fsm's old computer
Vermilionvermin It's closer to the end of the phase and she hasn't come back
Blueflower999 Mashi's making me stay
waddle how do you screencap
Blueflower999 Hurry up guys I have to pee
waddle on a mac
waddle lol
Mashi Ah.
Mashi Yeah, I see what you mean, verm verm.
Mashi And umm
waddle im in the internet
Vermilionvermin that's pretty bad reasoning to support the strongest lynch
Mashi Command-Shift something
Vermilionvermin *by strongest, I mean most votes
Vermilionvermin switched over to bubbles!
Mashi Waddle Bro and blueflower999, what do you think?
Vermilionvermin will probably have to go to dinner in 10 minutes if necessary
Mashi
waddle about what
Blueflower999 I'm not sure if Bubbles is the best choice...
Blueflower999 To be quite honest
waddle sorry I've been trying to screencap
Mashi Why's that?
Vermilionvermin what lynch do you prefer?
waddle choices?
Blueflower999 Jub just voted for you Verm
Mashi Jub3r7's not playing.
Mashi He's being frivolous.
Blueflower999 So that explains it!
waddle jub has the omega
Mashi lol
waddle jub wins
Blueflower999 So
Blueflower999 Votes?
waddle brb
Blueflower999 I personally don't feel Bubbles is any more suspicious than other inactives
Blueflower999 Such as Popo
Blueflower999 While I'm not specifically pointing towards a Popo lynch, if there's a reason we're going after inactives, it should be the #1 inactive!
Blueflower999 There's still 25 or so minutes left in the phase
Blueflower999 That's plenty of time for bubbles to come back and cast a vote
waddle back
Vermilionvermin It doesn't matter how inactive they've been the whole game
Vermilionvermin it only matters if they were inactive enough to claim to BDS
Blueflower999 Who didn't?
Blueflower999 Do we know?
waddle I swear
waddle I'll vote in the last second
waddle totes drama queen
Vermilionvermin we can guess from the timing of posts
Blueflower999 I claimed
Blueflower999 Do we know if Bubbles did?
Blueflower999 And see?
Blueflower999 Bubbles is posting in the thread
Blueflower999 Maybe just because you accused her
Blueflower999 But she's still posting regardless
waddle FINALLY
waddle k
waddle how do you share pictars
Mashi tinypic.com
Blueflower999 OK I can't hold it any longer
Mashi Upload it.
waddle like screencaps
Blueflower999 Going to shower
waddle k
Mashi Well, save it on Paint first.
Mashi Then upload it.
Mashi Change your vote.
Mashi TheBoyWhoCriedWolf will be lynched if you don't, and to be honest, verm verm and I are leaning that he's Human.
Vermilionvermin Blueflower, what do you think of K-Night?
waddle http://tinypic.com/r/259kbcj/6
waddle there
waddle look at my stupidity
Mashi It's fine, Waddle Bro, everyone makes mistakes.
Mashi And I think blueflower999 ditched us.
waddle 04:39 Blueflower999 Going to shower
waddle good thinking
Mashi Yeah.
waddle
Mashi I kept asking him to stay.
waddle okay
waddle so
Mashi It's 18 more minutes.
Mashi Ugh.
Mashi Looks like TheBoyWhoCriedWolf is going to be lynched.
Vermilionvermin
waddle we must hope
waddle that someone of us has Omega
waddle so we're saved
waddle guys
waddle did my claim raise lower me in your suspicions lists
waddle *lower
waddle just wondering
Vermilionvermin didn't really affect it either way
Mashi Waddle Bro, you should probably vote.
Mashi I think Bubbles7689 was working on a post but then stopped.
waddle drama queen
waddle did you vote
Vermilionvermin sorry I have to go
Mashi
Mashi Bye, verm verm.
Mashi Enjoy dinner!
Vermilionvermin but Mashi you should declare whether you want the phase to be Gamma'd or not
waddle :<
waddle Mashi
Blueflower999 Bach
Mashi Oh,see9sfiosefse
Mashi Who do I seer???
Mashi Oh, yaaay.
waddle Send the seering PM as soon as phase begins
Mashi What do you think of K-NiGhT, blueflower999?
waddle just in case the Gamma
Vermilionvermin okay i can stay for like 45 seconds
Mashi Yeah.
waddle hi
waddle wat's up verm
Mashi blueflower999, hurry!
Vermilionvermin sorry I have to go
waddle I'm gonna laugh so hard if Mashi dies this phase
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Mashi Bye, verm verm.
Mashi i hope your probopass falls over, waddle bro
Blueflower999 I'm indifferent towards K-Night
Blueflower999 Has he done anything of significange that I'm forgetting?
Mashi Not particularly.
Blueflower999 then what is there to think of him?
Mashi Just asking for your opinion.
Blueflower999 That's my opinion then
Blueflower999 Uh why did Popo vote for me
Mashi You were trolling him apparently.
Mashi idk
Mashi Ugh, I'll have to take charge without verm, now I'll feel guilty if I lynch the wrong person.
Mashi Hmmm.
Mashi I don't like her latest post.
Mashi Bubbles7689's, I mean.
Mashi But idk.
Mashi Waddle Bro, your opinion?
Blueflower999 I don't see anything wrong with it
Blueflower999 What strikes you?
waddle mashi
Blueflower999 We have 7 minutes!
waddle don't hate me for this
waddle you're dead
waddle I hope
waddle because
waddle I'm the seer
waddle
Mashi Her sudden change in vote as if to concede to verm verm's demand, her scapegoating popo.
Mashi And you almost made me terrified, Waddle Bro, you jerk!
waddle I think Bubbles would be the best bet
waddle but then again
waddle Mashi beat me in Pokemon
Mashi We have 5 minutes, so...
Mashi Waddle Bro.
waddle I can't forgive that
waddle But
Mashi blueflower999, I think you should vote Bubbles7689, since 3/4 of us are supporting it.
Blueflower999 I'm kinda seeing what you mean
Blueflower999 OK, fine
Blueflower999 Bubbles it is?
waddle am i the 1/4
Blueflower999 In the Tinychat
Mashi I would rather see her lynched than TheBoyWhoCriedWolf, since he actually has some evidence for his humanity.
Blueflower999 She was insisting brazenly that she wasn't a wolf
waddle but
waddle Mashi seems suspicious
waddle but
waddle bubbles seems more suspicious
waddle but mashi
waddle seems more suspicious
Blueflower999 BUT JUB
waddle JUB IS TEH WUFF
Mashi You have two minutes.
Mashi Vote.
Mashi Waddle Bro, you too!
waddle but
waddle mashi
waddle you seem so sispicious
waddle but
waddle popo has a good point
waddle voted
waddle no time to explain vote if you know what I mean
waddle lol
Blueflower999 Why 10 seconds, Mashi?
Blueflower999 So you can send your wolfing P<
Mashi Avoid the wolfing.
Blueflower999 *PM?
Mashi I sent in my seering PM already.
Mashi I need some rest.
waddle I bet you 10 bucks that a wuff hsd the Gamma
waddle *has
waddle becuz
Mashi Well, whatever, I'm not the one who has to worry about dying!!!
waddle mahi plz
waddle *mashi plz
waddle stop advertising the guardian
Mashi I have a feeling the Wolves know he/she's alive.
Mashi Wait, Bubbles7689 is dead, I don't need to pretend she might be it now.
Mashi lol
waddle
Mashi But yeah, it's just intuition, but...
Mashi idk
Mashi Plus
Mashi If I use reverse psychology.
Mashi And they think I'm trying to dupe them
Mashi They'll wolf me and I'll be guarded.
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waddle hi dead
bubbles hi
Mashi Sorry for the sudden lynch if you're Human, Bubbles7689!
bubbles well
Mashi I hope you garner no ill feelings.
bubbles ok then
waddle (it was mashi's idea!!!)
Mashi I've noticed that I seem to be prone to making last minute decisions.
Blueflower999
bubbles technically im not dead yet
bubbles but I probably am
Mashi guys
bubbles I really dont see how I couldve survived
Mashi bubbles7689 was the seer
Mashi D:<
waddle I opposed the bubbles kill
Mashi wait
Mashi
bubbles :ooooo
bubbles i new it
Mashi Anyhow, the lynch is over and I completely regret it.
Mashi Siiiigh.
Mashi But then again, all my lynches are like that.
waddle I swear if Mashi's the Meta I will sheep FSM forever
Mashi loool
Mashi Imagine.
Mashi I would have so much respect for myself if I could pull this off without being Seer.
waddle little fsm beep lost his sheep
Blueflower999 And then the big bad Mashi came along
waddle and ate the poor hunter sheep
waddle I might as well tell
waddle I had an A.I last phase
waddle And I didn't use it
waddle 5 am
waddle woo
Mashi I'm going to brb.
Mashi Need to rest my eyes.
Mashi And eat.
Mashi And do homework.
bubbles blue
waddle i should get teh most dedicated twger superlative
bubbles i knew you were heartless D:<
waddle bubbles
bubbles waddle
waddle i opposed your lynch
bubbles ok
bubbles i understand
waddle but the big boys made me do it
bubbles thats why you had the deciding vote
bubbles I THOUGHT WHAT WE HAD WAS SPECIAL
waddle or they were gonna steal all my lunch mney
waddle bubbles
waddle u had ais
waddle y/n
bubbles ais?
bubbles is that a disease
bubbles
bubbles *zips lips*
bubbles i think im dead so
bubbles i dont wanna break any rules
bubbles argh sheikais takin a really long time
waddle no
bubbles Might I ask, what was your reasoning for all voting for me last minute?
bubbles as long as Im stuck in limbo here
bubbles and "technically" not dead
bubbles hurry hurry DX
waddle I used my Theta A.I.
waddle omg lag
waddle :<
bubbles Saying something actually meaningful?
bubbles probably not because youre telling us
waddle u died becuz
waddle mashi's a jerk
waddle and
bubbles k
bubbles i can die in peace now
bubbles wait
bubbles more?
waddle there was no one else better
bubbles oops
bubbles *dies*
bubbles giggle
waddle omg
bubbles gigglegiggle
waddle mashi 4 mvp
bubbles actually I just suck at twg so
waddle actually
waddle I didn't oppose the lynch
waddle i was lying
waddle i was behind it all
bubbles ok
bubbles giggle
Mashi YES.
bubbles
Mashi Wait.
Mashi Well
Mashi We have no more AIs.
bubbles Im glad my death brings you joy
Mashi Umm.
Mashi lol
Mashi Sorry, Bubbles7689!
bubbles *cough*
waddle I can't wait to see the look on FSM's face when he wakes up
waddle *would love
Mashi lol
waddle mashi
waddle seer
waddle meet
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waddle me
waddle human
waddle btw
waddle idr what anyone said
waddle did mah claim lower my position in your suspicion list
Mashi okay copying and pasting log now
Mashi Shall I post it in the topic?
waddle idc
Mashi I suppose I may as well.
waddle so much Pokemon lol
bubbles I feel like this is going to be one of those games where I facepalm when i read the post-game
:tweeeet:
Also, someone's dying tonight, it seems. Sorry, everyone! :(
Wait, I think it was cut off; I'll try to retrieve the rest of it.
Well I can see that Blue really wants me dead, I'm sorry I was innactive for so long. I was in a show at my school.
Wait why did we lynch bubbles?
For me, it was the best lynch available. When I changed my vote, the vote count was like this:
TBWCW (4)
Mashi (2)
FSM/Yugi/Bubbles/Hunter (1)
TBWCW's claiming seemed more to me like he was trying to induce a sniping rather than a counterclaim. If he wanted to get a counterclaim, he would've claimed before BDS had claimed vigilante. Mashi's seer claim seemed legitimate, and still does, especially now that we know Bubbles was the Meta.
If I was going to stop either of them from getting lynched, I needed to support one of the other four there. I doubt FSM would have ended the phase early as a wolf. I could have pushed for the Yugi lynch, but Bubbles went better with my theory that some of the wolves weren't as active during BDS' time alive. Hunter did too, but I had reason to believe that he was human based on the fact that I thought it was more plausible for someone to buy FSM's Mashi argument than it would be for someone to vote against TBWCW.
Admittedly, not an overwhelmingly strong reason to lynch someone, but I didn't have many other options and was too busy during most of the earlier part of the phase to pressure Yugi.
Woah, totally did not see this coming
So I guess I owe you a big apology, Mashi. Sorry. :(
I swear I'll never try to lead a lynch against you anymore
luv u forever :c
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue
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1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
Mashi misfired his jetpack in space, ending up just like Agent Georgia.
It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end March 7, 10 PM EST.
i am the meta please
WHAT HAPPENED TO GEORGIA?!
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 04, 2013, 04:37:54 PMIt probably has to do with the fact that you posted the two things which prompted specials to reveal their roles (wolf and BDS before we'd decided it was good to reveal the seer).
I am somewhat responsible for BDS claiming, although he did somewhat say that he was an odd role beforehand. Wolf claimed of his own accord after I made a joke about the please.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 04, 2013, 04:37:54 PMWhen I posted that chatlog I faked with wolf, he rushed to the chatroom, which is kind of odd.
Because someone was in the chat.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 04, 2013, 04:37:54 PMHumans have no reason to want to try to get someone to admit to being the guardian.
Like I said, it was a joke.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 04, 2013, 04:37:54 PMSupporting a rather weak TBWCW lynch isn't helping you either. Neither is the fact that you tried to stall claiming and such to FSM.
Fair points.
What happened with the guard?
Oh, twas fake. I'm guessing someone must have known, Verm, did Mashi or you tell anyone the guard was fake?
Since there aren't any specials alive and it should be pretty apparent by this point, wolf was the guardian, at least as far as I know. I made up that log in which he said he thought popo was the guardian. If I didn't there was no way he'd live past night 1. Unfortunately I made a mistake in posting the log before I sent him a PM telling him what I was going to do, hence his reaction to it.
That and FSM already said that the guardian was wolf (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5412.msg202139#msg202139) in the thread.
I'll look at the thread again at some point later because I'm reconsidering Yugi's defense.
Wait, the day will end on March 5th? You made that post on March 5th! Is that a typo?
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 06, 2013, 03:47:59 AMWait, the day will end on March 5th? You made that post on March 5th! Is that a typo?
Oops, fixed.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 05, 2013, 07:58:21 PMWHAT HAPPENED TO GEORGIA?!
Dude, you do not want to know.
Sorry for being so unreachable the last Night Phase. My treatments have begun again since I'm back at the hospital, so as you can imagine, I'm suffering from a lot of physical pain.
Phew, I survived, I thought for sure I was going to be killed. Still the game goes on with only nine of us left, we need to find the wolves soon, Is it possible to get a count on how many wolves are left? (Thats probably a stupid question but hey, I'm a beginner)
Popo
If potentially it was expected that popo was the guardian then if popo was a wolf, then obviously the wolves are going to know he won't be guarded.
Also his above post I can see as something a beginner wolf would do to try and make himself look human. It was also said that Popo could potentially be a wolf since he's new and was inactive at the time when we asked for claims and when TZP claimed Brutal.
The last two days I've tried to avoid this game as much as possible, it's ruining my already bad sleeping rhythm. Still I shouldn't have done that, now I'm very confused.
Sorry for playing a bit bandwagon this game, I honestly have had no idea what the heck has been going on. I think I should read the whole thread.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 06, 2013, 10:40:13 AMPopo
If potentially it was expected that popo was the guardian then if popo was a wolf, then obviously the wolves are going to know he won't be guarded.
Also his above post I can see as something a beginner wolf would do to try and make himself look human. It was also said that Popo could potentially be a wolf since he's new and was inactive at the time when we asked for claims and when TZP claimed Brutal.
I don't know what to say to that...(Curse you innabillity to write in proper language) Sometimes I just write stupid things, things tat would make me stand out from other players. I haven't mastered the different ways of playing this game. wWell if you're gong to bandwagon me go ahead, it's your loss.
Safety on FSM. I'll read through the thread later tonight.
I might as well share this too, since it's better that you know this.
Vermilionvermin seered Popo green with the Delta A.I. I wouldn't lynch him this phase.
Working on my suspicion list now that I can actually put effort in it.
Quote from: Mashi on March 02, 2013, 04:08:45 PMWaddleBro was seered Green, also.
This should prove that I have currently the biggest chance of being a human than anyone else.
I have one question. Who had the Delta A.I. Night 2?
*Claim to me as fast as you can, this is important.
I thought the Meta died, I guess I am really unlucky when it comes to receiving A.I.'S
Unvote
Hate the fact that I don't still have any idea what is happening over here. Safety on verm.
Safety on Social
I'll go for Yugi since he has been acting strange and for before reasons.
Explain yourself, Boy. What "before reasons?"
QuoteYugi: I can't shake this feeling that you're not a human this game. It probably has to do with the fact that you posted the two things which prompted specials to reveal their roles (wolf and BDS before we'd decided it was good to reveal the seer). When I posted that chatlog I faked with wolf, he rushed to the chatroom, which is kind of odd. Humans have no reason to want to try to get someone to admit to being the guardian. Supporting a rather weak TBWCW lynch isn't helping you either. Neither is the fact that you tried to stall claiming and such to FSM.
This basically sums it up.
So him showing suspicion of you is grounds to vote for you?
I don't buy it. Boy.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 07, 2013, 03:18:51 PMSo him showing suspicion of you is grounds to vote for you?
I don't buy it. Boy.
The contradiction in this post is amusing.
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 07, 2013, 03:19:38 PMThe contradiction in this post is amusing.
excuse me. What I meant to say was...
Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 07, 2013, 03:18:51 PMSo him showing suspicion of you is grounds to vote for him?
I don't buy it. Boy.
I know this seems really pointish fingering but I actually think it could be K-Night and Yugi.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on March 07, 2013, 03:27:41 PMI know this seems really pointish fingering but I actually think it could be K-Night and Yugi.
Are you serious? So people that are suspicious of you are automatically wolves? Makes sense.
No, I just find it quite strange how we're at a point were we haven't got much to go on and I vote Yugi and as soon as I do you're there looking for reasons and since the weren't good enough you voted me.
I did see it seemed pointish fingery as in excuse me for making this look like a 'you vote me you're a wolf' situation.
2 hours til end of phase and I don't know who to vote.
If you can read this, I suggest coming to the chat to discuss. There might be food there.
1.Vermilionvermin: TBWCW
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf: Yugi
5.blueflower999: Yugi
6.K-NiGhT: TBWCW
8.Yugi: FSM
9.Hunter of Souls: Verm
12.FSM-Reapr: ---
14.Waddlebro: ---
15. popo447: ---
Phase ends in an hour. I don't like the Yugi, FSM, or Verm lynches much. The TBWCW lynch isn't my favorite either, but it's better than the others and my only option at this point. I'd prefer to lynch Hunter or Blueflower for being inactive in and around the time that people were supposed to claim to BDS, but I suppose that's what I get for not being active earlier in the phase.
vermilionverminSurprise!
I haven't seen any evidence considering vermverm's humanity.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on March 01, 2013, 06:43:14 PM"Well TZP, it's obvious that wolf was killed because of his claim. Since I publicly claimed vigi, that means that anybody could be the sniper: somebody who did claim to me (one of the few people :P), or somebody who did not.
I would say that Verm is a wolf, but he DID post the PM like I asked him to about the claims, unless you're not a wolf, and he knew about that.
I would actually go with BDS on this one. He obviously knew something we didn't.
And thus is why I wouldn't go with TBWCW.
*TBWCW hasn't obviously been in the top of his A-game and doesn't know what to exactly say. He did the same with the FSM lynch last Day Phase.
Bioy
You're supecting me on reasons that verm later dropped (?), doesn't exactly spell human.
So
somebody sent a text message to me 3:30 AM in the morning, telling me to vote in TWG. So now I'm at the main lobby, borrowing this computer with all these hoses attached to me.
This was a PM I sent to Verm that explains why I trusted him.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 01, 2013, 04:05:05 AMHi Verm.
It's fairly obvious that you're a human role that wasn't counterclaimed. I can't think of another reason why BDS would have told you out of all people about the TZP claim. (don't even try to bullshit me)
Now that I think about it, the reason why BDS told him about it was because he wanted to test is Verm a wuff or not.
derp no vote
Yugi
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 07, 2013, 06:27:54 PMvermilionvermin
Surprise!
I haven't seen any evidence considering vermverm's humanity.I would actually go with BDS on this one. He obviously knew something we didn't.
And thus is why I wouldn't go with TBWCW.
keep in mind that BDS' suggestion was filtered through a wolf
also keep in mind that BDS hadn't seen days 1-3, which I think include evidence as to why I'm a human.
panic going to chat
tbwcw
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTokpPCWHK7RLOZS4fsjOBTs3JkPB5DyHouA5yNP1EtEoe3YAegSQ)
1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
The Boy Who Cried Wolf didn't listen when he was told "Don't mess with Texas."
It is now Night 4. Night 4 will end March 8, 10 PM EST.
hey guys mashis back alive 8)
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 07, 2013, 07:12:01 PMhey guys mashis back alive 8)
water u talking bout. I didn't accidentaly just copy the update from a few days ago and forgot to make sure it was updated all the way if that's what you're implying
mashi
instaaaa
i died twice, therefore i am permitted to have two death posts
im too lazy to send my wolfing through pm, so wolf mashi this night phase, please
You should've listened, Boy...
If you f*** with Tex, you'll be on your knees for sure.
(I'm so glad I get like, all the references in this game)
Who died so far?
Only?
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on March 07, 2013, 07:09:11 PM1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
Crossed out players are dead.
Thanks for the info.
The dead cannot speak.
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTokpPCWHK7RLOZS4fsjOBTs3JkPB5DyHouA5yNP1EtEoe3YAegSQ)
1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
Waddlebro was a dirty, dirty Shizno.
It is now Day 4. Day 4 will end March 10, 10 PM EST.
OK I'm going to speak up today so I don't have to do a last second lynch.
Hunter of Souls.
I'm almost certain TZP was a wolf as opposed to the other brutal claim. If TZP's a wolf, that means that his other two partners must have claimed correctly, or BDS would have said something about their claims. That means that the wolves were either too inactive to claim, or if they were active, weren't communicating. Hunter didn't post all of night 1, which means he was too inactive to claim.
If not Hunter, blueflower's the next best lynch. I went with Hunter over blueflower because Blueflower did post night 1, even if it was before BDS claimed, which means there's a possibility he was in communication with TZP even without posting.
I don't see that as that good of a reason.
Even I know that Hunter is inactive, since he has a lot of going on outside the interwebz.
derp didn't mean to hit post yet
I would go with blueflower, since if he's a wolf, this is his typical strategy as seen in Perfect Apples and Bowser's Big Blast.
If Hunter's busy IRL, that's more of a reason to suspect him, in this case. This suspicion isn't based off me thinking inactivity is suspicious normally. This is a special case because of TZP's claim in which the only activity (or lack thereof) that really matters is around the time that BlackDragonSlayer was claiming.
I'm basing this off the assumption that TZP is a wolf. We know TZP was counterclaimed, and we know that TZP claimed "Doughnut" rather than "normal human". I would have expected TZP's partners to make the same mistake, but they clearly didn't.
This means that either there wasn't a whole lot of communication going on or, more likely, the other wolves didn't claim to BlackDragonSlayer. If we know Hunter was really busy during that period, we know he wouldn't have been able to claim.
I think for today, I'm going to side with FSM and go for blueflower. I think it's also worthwhile to keep an eye on Hunter of Souls.
Verm, I actually claimed to BDS, I'm just the definition of a selectively active player. I didn't make an activity post for the sake of I'm not a great fan of them. To me making one would feel like "Now you guys can't lynch me for inactiveness."
Guys, prepare to either get your minds blown or to get the craziest laughts you can ever get. This depends on if you believe me or not.
I think now I know what has been going on. Don't judge this instantly bad just because it's a bit different, that is why it should fill the gaps. I actually trusted Verm before this, but then I went brainstorming and now, he is probably a wolf.
Specials in this game:
Vigi: BDS
Seer: Mashi
Guardian: wolf
Sarge: TZP
Dead wolves: Tanooki
And we need an explanation. Why is it more logical that TZP was the Sarge? And Tanooki a wolf? And how is Verm related to this in any way?
TZP was trying to make sure his back was safe by not claiming brutal human: just for his and others' safety. The problem is, the humans have names, but they weren't used in the role posts. That's why TZP failed: he thought they were, and so the insta began.
Tanooki fake claimed the Seer in order to eliminate TBWCW who had already 'claimed' and so was thought to be the Seer. When TZP died, Tanooki died due to the brutal, and so the wolves had a reason to blame TBWCW. When Mashi claimed, the alliance-thingy had already started and Verm gained some trust. Verm took the advantage of the dead 'seer' and started blaming Mashi.
After Bubbles died, Mashi was wolfed because he started to sound more believeable after explaining stuff and The Meta was dead already. Mashi was the biggest threat and the Seer.
Sounds complicated? It isn't. Think about it this way: if Tanooki was the seer, why did Mashi get wolfed? One of them was the Seer and the other was a wolf, because it is highly unlikely that we had two lying humans in the same game (TBWCW and the other one of these). And because Mashi was wolfed, he wasn't a wolf unless this has suddenly turned into Uprising Madness 2.
Verm: you started blaming Mashi with the dead Tanooki. Mashi had good defenses (I mean, as he said, he wasn't on the computer: he didn't post here, and probably not in LLF), and wasn't lynched. He said people shouldn't trust you too much, and he was wolfed, because TBWCW retracted his seer claim but he didn't.
Verm, could you post the exact same claim to the thread that you sent to BDS? If it said brutal human, I wouldn't be surprised why BDS gave you TZP's claim: you were the only one that directly claimed brutal human to him, so it would be only logical that he trusted you. Otherwise I don't know how did you gain his trust.
Defense, sir: if I'm not completely crazy, you need it. Also post something like this, but with TZP being a wolf, 'cause I think it wouldn't make so much sense.
And now, I will go back to real life for the rest of the phase, upper secondary school course selecting takes time (at least for me), and I was also supposed to see my girlfriend tommorow. Discuss my supposition, it might have holes in it.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 09, 2013, 01:02:41 AMderp didn't mean to hit post yet
I would go with blueflower, since if he's a wolf, this is his typical strategy as seen in Perfect Apples and Bowser's Big Blast.
IF I'm the wolf? That doesn't make sense to me. IF I'm the wolf, this is my typical strategy. OK?
*I would go for blueflower rather than Hunter
Hunter, if I'm right about the specials, you've got 3/4 of them. Mashi was the seer, BDS the vigi, and wolf the guardian.
If it's absolutely necessary, I can say who Sarge is. I don't think it is right now, and quite frankly I think the wolves knowing his identity can only hurt us. I can assure you I'm not him, though.
We've got 7 people alive right now. This allows us one mislynch to find the wolves unless the brutal is killed.
I guess Tanooki's potentially a wolf, but I don't think that it means that TZP is a human. Based on that log Mashi posted a while ago, we know that Tanooki had an AI. If Bubbles thought that Tanooki might have been the seer, she'd have reason to try to steal an AI from him and kill him. TZP never showed any suspicion toward Tanooki, so it'd be kind of weird for him to randomly brutal him, especially since, at the time, there was reason to believe he might be the seer.
There's also the fact that TZP's claiming story makes absolutely no sense if he's actually the brutal human. There was no reason to believe BDS was lying, so the idea of distrusting him is a bit silly. If he really distrusted the alliance leader, he wouldn't have lied about his claim; he would have held off his claim. Messing up an alliance leader's claims is always a bad thing, and can only lead to confusion down the line.
Either one of two stories is true:
In story A, TZP is the brutal human, but for no reason distrusts BDS. Despite the fact that he has not been counterclaimed, TZP decides that he is so certain that BDS is a wolf that he not only doesn't claim his role, he claims the wrong one to mess up BDS.
In story B, TZP is a wolf that didn't realize that the humans don't know which one is which like they have in every game he's played in where humans were given specific names.
If I'm a wolf, who are my other two partners?
Holy shit Hunter has a girlfriend and I didn't know anything about it.
:O
Bro, we should communicate more.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 09, 2013, 01:02:41 AMderp didn't mean to hit post yet
I would go with blueflower, since if he's a wolf, this is his typical strategy as seen in Perfect Apples and Bowser's Big Blast.
If this is the case, why aren't I going crazy trying to defend myself like I did in Bowser's Big Blast?
Hunter because I'm not going to be around later tonight and I don't want to forget!
Quote from: vermilionvermin on March 09, 2013, 12:27:26 PMIf it's absolutely necessary, I can say who Sarge is. I don't think it is right now, and quite frankly I think the wolves knowing his identity can only hurt us. I can assure you I'm not him, though.
Funny thing that you said that Verm. You see, I had this conversation with Waddle Bro yesterday, very close to the phase's ending.
Quote3.23 minä: okei onks brutal claimannu sulle vielä
3.24 Otso: ei ole phase loppuu ihan just joten epäilen
3.25 minä: :O
3.26 Otso: :<
3.57 Otso: meen nukkumaan
And here's the translated version:
Quote3.23 minä: okay has the brutal claimed to you yet
3.24 Otso: no the phase ends very soon so I doubt he will
3.25 minä: :O
3.26 Otso: :<
3.57 Otso: I'll go to sleep
I highly doubt the brutal would have claimed to you instead of Waddle and that you'd know the brutal and Waddle not. Suddenly Hunter is starting to make sense to me.
vermilionvermin until I hear a defense that convinces me.
wait
I forgot to mention:
Otso is Waddle
minä is me
The brutal told me who he was because I was able to guess it.
fsm let's chat
Mibbit is a bitch and refuses to work for me.
Come here:
http://tinychat.com/concerto
Password: concertoisawesome
In defense of myself:
I specifically had reason to believe Mr. T was the seer on Night 1. Both Mr. T and TBWCW told me that TBWCW's claim was fake and hinted that Mr. T's was real. Mr. T didn't die.
I faked the log with wolf to try to prevent his wolfing. This benefits me if I'm a human, but doesn't really do anything for me if I'm a wolf.
I knew who the brutal was last night and he didn't die.
I have proof that I claimed to BDS in the fact that he trusted me enough to tell me about TZP's claim. I'm almost certain BDS wouldn't have given information like that to someone who had yet to claim. This pretty much guarantees I'm not a wolf with TZP.
So I now know the identity of the brutal and I'm convinced
sorry Hunter but I think you're wrong but good try anyways
ninja'd yeah
So who are we planning on voting for?
Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 10, 2013, 05:26:53 PMSo who are we planning on voting for?
We are currently discussing of that with Verm.
So currently there are three potential wolf suspects and we have one mislynch.
I'd say this looks pretty solid
/jinx
Out of Hunter and
blueflower999, I'd still go for blueflower since we're trying to find out did Hunter really send a claim to BDS and since he won't be online for this phase, we should lynch him later if he doesn't send us/Verm his claim.
FSM has given me pause about Hunter.
Blueflower
Not completely sure why you guys are voting for me. ???
Hunter, I always knew he had something up his sleeve.
I revoke my last vote, I have read some things and from the information I could gather, Blueflower999 would be the best candidate for a wolf due to his wits, smarts, and overall understanding of the game.
Blueflower - K-N, FSM, Verm and Popo
instaa
HEAD-SHOT
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTokpPCWHK7RLOZS4fsjOBTs3JkPB5DyHouA5yNP1EtEoe3YAegSQ)
1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
Blueflower999 was shot in the head. Unfortunately, no one was around to give him mouth to mouth in an attempt to revive him.
It is now Night 5. Night 5 will end March 11, 10 PM EST.
God this game is awesome just because of the references.
YES WE KILLED A WOLF.
Quote from: Yugi on March 10, 2013, 09:22:21 PMYES WE KILLED A WOLF.
what makes you so sure? Even with all the suspicion on him, there's no way to know for sure that blueflower was indeed a wolf.
6 players left. Which means that at least one of the dead players was a wolf.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 10, 2013, 01:32:58 PMHoly shit Hunter has a girlfriend and I didn't know anything about it.
:O
Bro, we should communicate more.
... man you're so out.
On topic, verm, I planned that damn post so long. Now I'm depressed. No matter how deeply I try to understand how the game is rolling, I still fail. It's so sad...
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTokpPCWHK7RLOZS4fsjOBTs3JkPB5DyHouA5yNP1EtEoe3YAegSQ)
1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
Due to a communication error, Yugi was considered dead by command and was last seen crying at his own funeral.
Vermillionvermin, you just got Sarge'd.
It is now Day 5. Day 5 will end March 13, 10 PM EST.
I'm scared now... :-[
Yugi wtf
I told you to target K-N or Hunter!
So now this is looking bad. This is our last lynch
Since Popo was seered green by Verm, I highly doubt he's a wolf. I myself am not a wolf.
K-Night
or
Hunter
There is no fucking way I'd ever give a victory to someone who has done absolutely nothing for the human team. Also I was a n00b once, just like Hunter. And I legitimately faked a seering to get someone lynched when I only had a gut feeling.
K-Night
So everyone(else but K-N) must vote for K-Night to make this lynch succeeded. No KitBs!
well, obviously I'm not voting for myself, so Hunter
And geez, chill out a bit FSM.
Double post because something bothers me.
Why, FSM, would you insist on insta-ing me? Especially if this is our last lynch? If you're wrong (which, I'd like to remind you, you are) your rashness has cost us the game. Unless you're pushing for a last second rush on me by getting the other humans to vote for me, using the fact that we have no seer to your advantage. You're expecting the others to blindly trust you.
I don't buy it. I beg of you all, use your reason on this. Think before you blindly vote because FSM told you to. And if it does come down to a KiTB, so be it. I will admit defeat if that's what it comes to. But I will NOT bow to someone I don't trust.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 11, 2013, 08:07:31 PMThere is no fucking way I'd ever give a victory to someone who has done absolutely nothing for the human team. Also I was a n00b once, just like Hunter. And I legitimately faked a seering to get someone lynched when I only had a gut feeling.
K-Night
So everyone(else but K-N) must vote for K-Night to make this lynch succeeded. No KitBs!
Triple post record because I keep thinking of things to say.
I really couldn't believe what I saw when I read this. You've worked so hard this whole game, then to throw it away because you'd rather I lose with you than all the humans winning together? This is absolutely foolish. That definitely seals my vote for you.
Also, just because popo was seer'd green doesn't mean he is green. I would like to remind you that there is (or was, idk) a painter in this game. Seerings don't really mean much here. But you've completely eliminated a suspect just because of a seering that could've easily been faked. The fact that verm made it this far in the game with his skill level nearly cements the fact that he was a wolf. Which also means you were manipulating Yugi into brutaling humans.
I realize I've been inactive this game, but there's this thing called a social life that I like to upkeep. There's also this thing called high school, and this other neat thing called a story that I have to finish in less than 10 days. It's a good thing I came in when I did, though. You could've had us beat.
Looks like my summer vacation is... over.
The wolves imo:
TZP
blueflower
K-Night
Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 11, 2013, 09:48:53 PMAlso, just because popo was seer'd green doesn't mean he is green. I would like to remind you that there is (or was, idk) a painter in this game. Seerings don't really mean much here. But you've completely eliminated a suspect just because of a seering that could've easily been faked. The fact that verm made it this far in the game with his skill level nearly cements the fact that he was a wolf. Which also means you were manipulating Yugi into brutaling humans.
I highly doubt Verm was a wolf. When I told him that I was going to end the Night 2 early, he said that I should definitely do that. I also sent the phase ending PM 20 minutes after the phase begun. Verm could have told his wolf partners to send the wolfing PM as soon as the phase begins, if he couldn't do it himself. This makes me highly doubt Verm was a wolf. Also since Verm's seering was random and Popo was inactive at the time, makes me doubt the painter had anything to do with it.
The thing is that if Yugi would have brutaled either you or Hunter, we would have lynched the one who survived if the game wouldn't have been over by then. This would have guaranteed us the victory.
I would lynch you since I believe Hunter is the more human out of two of you.
Even though Hunter has been pretty much wrong with most if his theories(like I have), he has tried to help the human team the best he could by providing us options. Also no wolf would try to start a lynch against someone like Vermilionvermin, lol.
Also if we look at your post history;
http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=2569
we can see that you have been active on every day of the game. It would make sense for a wolf to be inactive on the game thread but active everywhere else.
(Also, if I was a wolf, it would make more sense for me to go after Hunter since that would be a lynch I think everybody(else but him) would have agreed with that. I'm pretty sure I could have convinced you and Popo to lynch Hunter if I wanted to)
Also just so you know.
Blueflower knew that Yugi was the brutal, he was in the chatroom where we chatted and heard the entire conversation. (apparently you need to make an account to Tinychat to have chat pms :<) That's why I think blue was a wolf, since there are now three humans left and two humans died last phase and Yugi died last phase. That means he must have told somebody that Yugi's the brutal.
Fun fact(that isn't confirmed yet ;) ): I've never been a wuff in a TWG so far.
I'll end my post with a random quote I ran into yesterday.
Quote from: K-NiGhT, Trick of the TradeWell i think inactivity makes a person seem like they're avoiding saying anything that could potentially get them lynched.
K. I have a story to write and a life to live.
K-NiGhT
So guess it's decided. FSM, I so hate you if this goes wrong.
K-NiGhT.
gg motherfuckers
popo
instaa
I-I-I-INSTA
TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue
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1. The Meta: Cannot be wolfed/sniped/vigi'd. Sends Host a PM each phase with a player's name. If that player has an A.I., the Meta steals the A.I. and the player dies.
Freelancers:(wolves)
2. Agent South Dakota: If South has an A.I. when she is lynched/vigi'd/brutaled/attacked by the Meta, she can sacrifice her A.I., and future use of A.I., in exchange for survival.
3. Agent Wyoming: Wolf Sniper
4. Agent Washington: Wolf painter. Can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
Reds and Blues:(humans)
5. Church: Seer, can't use A.I.s, but can receive them(they will be transferred at the end of the phase)
6. Tucker: Vigi, if the Meta is Vigi'd, Tucker dies instead. One use only.
7. Caboose: Guardian
8. Sarge: Brutal human. Knows he is the brutal human.
9. Sister: Takes 2 hits to kill. Told she is a regular human.
10. Lopez the Heavy: During the day, Lopez will be seered as blue. At night, he will be seered as red. Told he is a regular human.
11. Grif: Human
12. Simmons: Human
13. Doughnut: Human
14. Doc: Human
15. Junior: Human
A.I. units(items):
-Omega: Your vote counts as 3.
-Gamma: You may extend the phase by 24 hours or end the phase instantly.
-Delta: You can PM the host and ask either how many wolves remain, how many A.I.s the Meta has, or to seer someone.
-Epsilon: You may freely talk with dead players via PM for 1 phase only. PMs must be sent through the host.
-Theta: You may send the host a message that will be posted anonymously at the end of the phase.
-Sigma: You may nullify one player's vote and power that phase.
Notes:
-The Meta wins if he gets all the A.I.s.
-The Meta is not part of either team.
-If the Meta is lynched, all A.I. units are destroyed.
-The A.I.s are randomly distributed night one. After they are used, they are randomly given to another player. A player who dies with an A.I. automatically gives the Meta their A.I.
-A player can hold onto an A.I. as long as they want(except omega). But if you have 2 or more A.I. in your possession for more than one phase(day or night), you will die and the Meta gains both A.I.
1.Vermilionvermin
2.BlackDragonSlayer
3.TheZeldaPianist275
4.The Boy Who Cried Wolf
5.blueflower999
6.K-NiGhT
7.Bubbles7689
8.Yugi
9.Hunter of Souls
10.Mashi
11.Mr. Tanooki Suit
12.FSM-Reapr
13.wolf
14.Waddlebro
15. popo447
K-NiGhT was crushed by a Pelican Dropship.
HUMANS WIN!