How mysterious...!
Wow.
This song is already on site, but your version is... a lot more intense, so to say. And about ten times harder, it looks like.
Still, it's a fantastic arrangement. Perhaps we could put it on site under the subtitle "Harder version"?
Or the older one under the header "Easier version".
Either way, this is a too good arrangement to be ignored, yet the one we already have is easier (and more playable). Dilemma...
Wow....really... This is much harder than my arrangements xD
Dont worry if its playable or not, because it is... but only for pianists with great quality. I think I can play this one...
But you have to be careful, cuz normally in the site, we/they dont accept too much hard arrangements. We only accept arrangements that are playable for most of the people here. But that doesnt mean the arrangement isnt good, quite the contrary.
Well, you'll have to wait for Concerto, to see what hell say...
I think this topic would be perfect for the debate concerning such situations:
http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=1576.0
And as for hard arrangements, I think we need a few. Just because they're awesome. Better yet, if we keep an easy and a hard version, we can satisfy both veterans and newbies (screw those in between).
Well as its title suggests, it is a virtuoso arrangement. I was just curious if anyone would be willing to give this a shot as I have currently arranged five others in this way, and many more to come. Besides this is a personal experiment, I just wanted to see if I could do it, whether or not it makes it on the site.
Just out of curiousity, what other songs is it you talk about?
Can't wait to hear them, even though it'll take years of practise before I'm able to play them.
Well Along with the SMB theme, I've arranged:
Super Mario Bros: Underwater - Its a nice waltz with a few variations
Super Mario Bros. 3: Athletic Theme - Its a bit more playful
The Legend Of Zelda: Overworld - Its a little more "epic" as some of friends have put
Tetris: Theme A - You'll have to see it for yourself
Super Mario RPG: Forest Maze - Its not too hard, but still a good arrangement
I have gotten requests to do others, so its become a summer project.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 19, 2009, 08:36:58 AMYou'll have to see it for yourself
Yes please. Please put them here, if they are done and ready for playing.
And sorry to keep asking like a five-year old on a toy factory tour, but what other songs are you going to do?
I just need to clean them up, but yeah I'll definitely post them.
I'm currently work on the Lost Woods theme from Ocarina of Time, The overworld theme from SMB2 and the Athletic theme from Super Mario World.
The latter most one will probably be the most difficult, as you can imagine.
Just as a quick side note, I'll stop posting one-liners after that:
Brassman388 ( http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=1392.0 ) has recently made a few of the songs you'll be doing. Just check that your arrangements will be different enough from his before you start spending hours on making them. It would be too bad to make a better version of a song on site, just to find that someone else has recently done exactly the same.
Good luck, though!
Brassman's arrangement is the bare piece, not exactly my virtuoso standard, no offense to Brassman.
Thanks for the heads up.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 19, 2009, 11:14:34 AMBrassman's arrangement is the bare piece, not exactly my virtuoso standar, no offense to Brassman.
Thanks for the heads up.
I like your attitude of making virtuous arrangements, but I think its not going to be easy for them to be accepted, because too hard arrangements are not accepted. I had the same problem when I came here. They've said that my arrangements were too hard, and I had to make them more playable...But I still make arrangements according to my pianistic skills, but I dont put them here, because I know that they are not going to be accepted...
I don't mind if they are accepted or not, but I will still submit them for people who want play them or at least look at them.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 19, 2009, 11:14:34 AMBrassman's arrangement is the bare piece, not exactly my virtuoso standard, no offense to Brassman.
Thanks for the heads up.
That sounds quite arrogant to be honest. Especially since Brassman is one of the most talented arrangers this site has.
^I think he more meant to say that Brassman's arrangement, while near-perfect, isn't the style UGC's looking for. Brassman made it stay as true to the in-game music in SMB/3 as possible, UGC made it so that it sounds optimal, as good as possible, if not that accurate. It's accuracy vs. polishing, not that Brassman is a bad arranger. It's just that Brassman went for accuracy, while UGC polished the original piece.
Maybe I misunderstood. Sorry in that case. But I think Maestro's arrangement is cool, but maybe not the goal of this site if I may say so. It is cool to have some hard sheets, but the use of this site is to provide playable sheet music to people and not to make impossible master pieces.
That's just my opinion, sorry.
^But we already have a playable version of the song, why not have a hard one as well? After all, game music is a growing music genre, a famous Norwegian concert pianist played the Super Mario Theme (funnily enough the same piece as submitted here) at a concert, something that would have been unheard of a few years ago.
The Super Mario Theme in particular is a famous song, perhaps the best recognised game music piece ever. Many people like it and want to play it, and there are few places to find this song outside the Internet. And as stated in the News header, NSM is the largest game music sheet archive on the net, so people searching will find us quite early in their search. We are available to the masses by offering relatively-easy-to-play music, why not appeal to the experts as well? Cover the entire spectrum, from beginners to veterans? If people want to find game music to play, NSM should have sheets for them, even if they are playing piano for the first time, or they are famous pianists looking for a final number at their next concert.
It's not like it's obscure music UGC's arranging either, all these songs are well-known by gamers, loved by many, and bring back happy memories to even more. If a pro wants to play game music at a concert, chances are that s/he'll decide to play one of these songs. I agree that it may be unnecessary to have pro versions of every song on site, but we should have a few of the best-known, those that the man on the street will recognise.
All sorts of people want to play these songs, as stated earlier, they are amongst the most famous of the genre. Which means, people from the entire talent spectrum want to try them. If the pro version is too hard for them, then go for the easy one, if they want a challenge, try the pro version. Most of our other songs do fine with only a single version, but those monumental songs deserve more. And if we are able to give them that, we should.
That was my two cents, at least. Hope you understood my points, when I write long posts, the grammar and sentence structure tends to go haywire.
Thanks for stating my argument.
But to add on, my arrangements are, as I call them, a la Cziffra, or in the style of Cziffra. For those of you who don't know who I'm talking about I recomend that you watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf2accwGEaU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf2accwGEaU)
I wanted to capture his flare when playing, so, as previously stated, they're intended to attract people of greater abilities, and something for others to shoot for.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 19, 2009, 01:14:55 PMThanks for stating my argument.
But to add on, my arrangements are, as I call them, a la Cziffra, or in the style of Cziffra. For those of you who don't know who I'm talking about I recomend that you watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf2accwGEaU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf2accwGEaU)
I wanted to capture his flare when playing, so, as previously stated, they're intended to attract people of greater abilities, and something for others to shoot for.
Simple version: They make different type of arrangements.
QuoteSimple version: They make different type of arrangements.
You've seen my arrangements, simple isn't in my vocabulary. Besides I needed an example to show what I was intending on doing.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 19, 2009, 01:37:01 PMQuoteSimple version: They make different type of arrangements.
You've seen my arrangements, simple isn't in my vocabulary. Besides I needed an example to show what I was intending on doing.
Lol, I said simple version of what Cobraroll said xD
Example like what? (I didnt get the phrase... Im not english, sorry :/)
My bad, misunderstanding.
In my opinion, you should keep working like that :) We should increase the quality of our arrangements, and to make it happen, we have to create harder and full arrangements. Im on your side, buddy ;)
WOW intense arrangments! They are really nice, but impossible to play. I love your contrapuntal style, it's a good training for the left hand ;). But concerning overworld super mario bros 2: Isn't it a third too low?
Quote from: dahans on June 19, 2009, 03:03:42 PMWOW intense arrangments! They are really nice, but impossible to play. I love your contrapuntal style, it's a good training for the left hand ;). But concerning overworld super mario bros 2: Isn't it a third too low?
Its playable. ive already played it :P But we need to have great pianistic skills to play it...
Not sure about you guys, but I think you've got an overactive imagination for those chords. Perhaps I'm wrong - probably am - but parts of the songs (underwater/smb3 athletic), just don't sound right to me. Let's just take a quick look at the start of athletics.
Bar 3. Right hand. That top note just screws with my head, and it just doesn't seem to fit in well. Yes - it may be the same note as the one an octave below, but then (at least to me,) it throws the emphasis off onto the wrong note. It's like saying sylables as syl-ables, it just doesn't sound right. When I hear the song in my head, I don't put emphasis on the harmony. You listen to the melody, with having the harmony in the background, not with the harmony as its melody. I'd say get rid of those top notes, or swap them. Quick pics of what I mean, third bar:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi74.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi250%2Fl-Master_Sheep-%2Ffinalepad.jpg&hash=b6ff8e5118d4c126b92aa1d376b98453dd73646d)(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi74.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi250%2Fl-Master_Sheep-%2Ffinalepad.jpg&hash=b6ff8e5118d4c126b92aa1d376b98453dd73646d)
You got some great talent, especially if you did all these by ear. Feel free to ignore me - as I'm never going to play this song, being quite out of my range. Just trying to throw my opinion out there.
Hmm, this may just a case of different interpretations.
I did that with the athletic theme to make playing easier, becuase what you're suggesting will create discomfort and overcrowding.
On the underwater theme, if you've ever studied waltzes, or at least Strauss, the harmony is not a harmony, but rather an equal part of the melody. Yeah the melody itself needs to to still be heard, but revoicing to what you're saying will make it sound forced and akward.
I've taken every thing regarding ability and timbre into consideration, besides it's still left up to the player how to play it, I know I add or change notes for certain pieces. I respect your criticisms and I'll keep them in mind for the future.
we have some amazing arrangments/ers this year O_o
and ive only listened to the first two songs
Quote from: ALPRAS on June 19, 2009, 03:20:48 PMIts playable. ive already played it :P But we need to have great pianistic skills to play it...
Okay, that was a little too much self esteem Antonio, sorry :P
I agree it are great arrangements, but I keep things realistic. Sorry if you feel hurt, that wasn't why I said it.
I fail to see how removing notes creates overcrowding. :P
Quote from: GreekGeek on June 19, 2009, 11:22:14 PMQuote from: ALPRAS on June 19, 2009, 03:20:48 PMIts playable. ive already played it :P But we need to have great pianistic skills to play it...
Okay, that was a little too much self esteem Antonio, sorry :P
I agree it are great arrangements, but I keep things realistic. Sorry if you feel hurt, that wasn't why I said it.
Relax, you didnt hurt me ;)
I mean, Ive already Print the arrangement, and I could play it, but of course that theres some parts that you almost need to be a Lizst or
rachmaninoff to play it perfectly. This is what I meant to say :P
Quote from: MasterPenguin on June 20, 2009, 03:54:18 AMI fail to see how removing notes creates overcrowding. :P
No, adding notes in certain areas, it creates discomfort in the right hand.
Quote from: GreekGeek on June 19, 2009, 12:40:48 PMMaybe I misunderstood. Sorry in that case. But I think Maestro's arrangement is cool, but maybe not the goal of this site if I may say so. It is cool to have some hard sheets, but the use of this site is to provide playable sheet music to people and not to make impossible master pieces.
That's just my opinion, sorry.
Now, that may be true, but the goal of the site should also be to provide
acurate sheets as well. Although the dificulty is important, we should make the site appeal to everyone who plays piano. Now i know there's a fair line between hard and impossible, however these are quite playable with practice.
So these are all of the arrangements I've completed, my next set of ten will include:
[SNES] Super Casltevania IV-"Entrance"
[NES] Metroid-"Brinstar"
[NES] The Legend of Zelda-"Darkworld"
[NES] Dr. Mario-"Fever"
[SNES] Yoshi's Island-"Hop Hop Donut Lifts"
[N64] Mojora's Mask-"Deku Nut Palace"
[GB] Super Mario Land-"Birabuto"
[N64] Super Mario 64-"Final Bowser"
[Wii] Super SmashBros. Brawl-"Main Theme"
[Wii] Super Mario Galaxy-"Final Battle"
That.
Is. The most. Epic. List. Ever.
Just a question from an enthusiast, do you plan on making any Pokémon arrangements? I guess there has to be some songs from there that could do well with a little spice.
Keep it up. It's awesome.
Quote from: Cobraroll on June 26, 2009, 09:09:25 AMdo you plan on making any Pokémon arrangements?
I will, maybe, anything in particular you want me to do?
Hmmm... there's only one piece I have seen a really good "spicing" of. The original Elite Four Theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zzU24fxuqo
Well, it's just an example, but it sounds a little better than the original. This is what the original would sound like on piano (can't seem to find the game audio, it's so similiar to the Gym Theme that no one uploaded both):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYTv2TGX7QU
Of course, there's also Route 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0G12EBW4KY
Main Theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv59sWEQgMk&feature=related
Poké Center: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9_CAMg4ewk&feature=related
And the famous Trainer Battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jmty_NiaXc
So yeah, those are the most promintent examples. Also, check out Silph. Co's Theme on this site. Can't find a proper audio, I don't have time now.
^So I don't show any signs of favoritism, and I have other requests, I'll do the Elite four and the Main theme.
That sounds utterly fantastic. Thanks a lot!
THE CASTLE ARRANGEMENT IS AMAZING!!! You need 1000 Liszts to play it though, but nevertheless well done!
^No its still playable, but would need to be the reincarnation of Liszt himself to pay.
LOL true, however, great song!
Quote from: Cobraroll on June 19, 2009, 12:33:34 PM^I think he more meant to say that Brassman's arrangement, while near-perfect, isn't the style UGC's looking for. Brassman made it stay as true to the in-game music in SMB/3 as possible, UGC made it so that it sounds optimal, as good as possible, if not that accurate. It's accuracy vs. polishing, not that Brassman is a bad arranger. It's just that Brassman went for accuracy, while UGC polished the original piece.
Haha, yeah, I agree with cobra. What I want to acomplish with all my arrangments is perfection through accuracy. I listen to the acual song itself, then create what I can from it. I think it's called transcribing. I think.
As for you Mr MaestroUGC, I have to give you major cudos. Although, your chord usage can be more effectively used. Not to say that your chord usage isn't bad, it's just it gets to be a bit much in some areas. Though, what I find fantastic, is your use of styles. Your variations of all your songs is something I could never do.
Hope I could of been of some asistance in becoming a better arranger. Happy arranging.
Wow, I recieved a complement from Brassman...thanks. I know some of the chords used are over done, but I've only been arranging for a month. I'm more of an orchestrator in that respect. Thanks again.
Do you mind if I edit Castle theme from Super Mario World? I really like it, but it could use some polishing.
Yeah I know it needs to be polished, but I'm spending time on my own music at the moment so if you want to fix it that would be great! I'll give you credit in the footnotes.
"Entrance Hall" from Super Castle Vania IV added.
Next to be uploaded: [NES] "Brinstar"-Metroid
What happened to the epic set of 10 from a few pages back? You said you were done, and I'd very much like to see them.
No, I said those were what I planned to do. I like to balance my time between arranging and writing my own music.
I do work at a quick pace so don't worry.
Ahh, sorry, I read your post wrong. My bad, good luck arranging!
"Brinstar" for Metroid added.
Can someone please optimize my sheets? For some reason it's not optimizing when I tell it to...
Next to be uploaded: [NES] "Darkworld"-The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
EDIT: I would really like some feed back on a few pieces I wrote over the years, but for now I think one will do.
Piano Concerto No. 1 in D Minor, Op. 13
Mov. I-Allegro..............MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/mmtzhdmmlwm/1.%20Allegro.MUS)
Mov. II-Adagio.............MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/dwkm0mztjni/2.%20Adagio.MUS)
Mov. III-Allegr-Presto....MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/5igumk4d3oz/3.%20Allegro-Presto.MUS)
What instruments do you play and how long have you composed for?
I play piano and I sing, piano for three years self taught, and vocals for sevens with private training for the past two.
I've been composing for the past three years, the concerto was written beteen January and October of 2008.
Brinstar is..... :o :o :o
great! :D
Thank you, it was a fun piece to arrange, there were so many possibilities...
I really love your work. It's... How would I say it... Epic. And I never say epic. My favorite, as of now, is the underwater theme. I always love it when you post a new arrangement :D
Quote from: Taser9090 on July 16, 2009, 04:54:17 PMI really love your work. It's... How would I say it... Epic. And I never say epic. My favorite, as of now, is the underwater theme. I always love it when you post a new arrangement :D
I have gained another fan, and one who's outside my circle of friends! Thanks, really, I just wish I could work faster...lately I've been busy with other things.
:D It's really hard to play your arrangements, but when I can play most of it, it feels really good ;D Thanks to you, I can play the other user's arrangements much easier!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 16, 2009, 08:45:00 PMI have gained another fan, and one who's outside my circle of friends! Thanks, really, I just wish I could work faster...lately I've been busy with other things.
It's alright, always remember, quality over quantity.
I know, but I can usually hammer one out in about a week, and that's taking my time...
In one week? That's impressive!
It doesn't matter if you can't make one very fast, you're only human.
Update: "Darkworld" form The Legend of Zelda: ALink to The Past added.
Up next: "Fever" form Dr. Mario...that's right...I said it.
Your arrangements are simply amazing! ;D I don't think I'd be able to play any of them though, which is too bad because that underwater theme especially is really well done. :-\... I'll probably end up attempting it anyways. ;)
Fever from Dr. Mario?? Wow, the one on the site now is too difficult for me. I had to make it easier so I could play it. xD. My right hand doesn't like those long reaches. But I can't wait to see what you've done with it! Really impressive work!
Well, thank you, and I imagine my arrangements would be too difficult for most people, I can barely play some of them as it is (my body can't keep up with my mind when I get "in the moment"...).
The Dr. Mario theme will actually be more like the underwater theme, that is a theme and variations; I'm pretty sure most everyon here will enjoy it.
Well Dr. Mario is no longer a variation, but an etude rather, "Fever" added.
Also, I would like some comentary on a few pieces I wrote last december...
Two Etudes for Player Piano, Op. 20
Etude for Player Piano in G-flat Major,Op. 20 No. 2 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/nli2zmzjwlz/2etudesfplayerpiano,op.20-no.1.MUS)
Etude for Player Piano in G Major, Op. 20 No. 2 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/zbo5mlzjgto/2etudesfplayerpiano,op.20-no.2.MUS)
I would also like suggestions for pieces for me to arrange, just tell me what game and what theme, thank you.
[SNES] Yoshi's Island-"Hop Hop Donut Lifts" up next.
--MaestroUGC--
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 23, 2009, 08:32:56 PMWell Dr. Mario is no longer a variation, but an etude rather, "Fever" added.
and another GREAT job i might add! :D
Thank you, I always wondered what having Mario as a doctor would be like...from the waiting room to the way home.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 23, 2009, 11:24:27 PMThank you, I always wondered what having Mario as a doctor would be like...from the waiting room to the way home.
lol, :D
Wow, these may not all be exact copies, but they're all great. I love the grand feel you put into it. You should definitely try composing something, I'm sure you could come up with something great.
I actually do compose, and I've posted some of those in my thread. They may not be my best works by my current standard, but music is a develpoing art, so I'm getting there.
I have a buch of midis of my older compositions that I'm trying to update in Finale...but it's a long and painful process.
Aw, I've been gone for a week and you put up a new arrangement!
Oh yeah... You can make arrangements in a week :p
I can't wait to download it and attempt to play it. :D
Edit: I just listened to it, it didn't have the booming sound like the other arrangements. But it was still great. I liked how it sounded dull in the beginning, and it got faster somewhere in the middle. It will be a pleasure to play this on the piano!
Lacking in boom huh? This piece doesn't translate well with boom, so I'm sorry if that's what you were looking for.
Dr. Mario is really good, once again A LOT OF NOTES :D. Keep on arranging!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 26, 2009, 06:32:15 PMLacking in boom huh? This piece doesn't translate well with boom, so I'm sorry if that's what you were looking for.
Now that I can see why, I shouldn't be complaining. It's just that I expect to much in people.
The etudes: Etudes are supposed to be exercises, not impossible finger rape. The songs are literally impossible to play. And not just because of speed.
Title: "Two Etudes for Player Piano, Op. 20"
You can't have an etude for something that's automatic. Etudes are meant to be exercises.
I know, but when I wrote them I challeged people to attempt to play them for money...I needed to call them something that was naturally difficult.
There's a difference between difficult and impossible.
I should read your post more thoroughly. I can't wait for Hop Hop Donut lifts! It's one of my favorite pieces to play on piano :D
Edit: Congratulations on the special note in the front page! :D
NOTICE: Due to some events I forgot were happening, my summer ended on monday. This means I will have significantly less time to work on my arrangements. This will only be temporary as I will sson adjust to my new schedule and will begin to update somewhat regularly. I will, however, make one final update with the Yoshi's Island theme before going on a short hiatus. I thank you for your patronage and ask that you wait.
In fact, I ask that you make suggestions of theme you want me to arrange. I'm looking for 20 themes to close out my carrer as the "Virtuoso Arranger." I will let you know if I will arrange it or it is planned to be in the next set of ten.
WOW... that SMB theme is a killer, I have difficulties even playing the standard one (where there are never more than 3 notes at once, like on NES), though I can play some really hard songs like the ZTP trailer theme. It would take me months to learn... so I am sticking to your Zelda overworld arrangment for now, seems like something I could master in reasonable time. As for requests I've been wanting to play some songs from brawl for a while... if you could make one of them i would be very happy. It's the battlefield II theme (menu 1 from melee played with full orchestra on the battlefield stage) and menu 1 from brawl (Or the Final Destination 2 theme, though not sure how well that really fits for piano. But would be cool anyway, since I play with the original from speakers at the same time)
Here's youtube links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QObRx4aBmjU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD_We1XJcOQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyoR-Pg6o0c&feature=related
First of all, let me state that i have all of your arrangements saved to my music files, just so that i can watch the intensity of the notes and chords and get goosebumps :) Second of all, i only have a few requests. The first is Dire, Dire Docks. Personally, i dont know what you can do to make it Virtuoso, but i think you might be able to do something intense with it (i've heard some pretty intense improv with that song, actually) :) The second is my most played song i do when im bored in band. If you could do something amazing with the Song of Storms (Windmill Song, Guru Guru, etc) it would be MOST appreciative :) Thank you, sir!
Quote from: Gooch on August 07, 2009, 09:40:11 PMSong of Storms
I'm acually quite curious to see how that one might come out. I have no worries though, Maestro never dissapoints. ;D
Throw me in the category of people who don't like these.
They're impressive, yea. And if you can play some of those (like that Virtuoso Athletic theme), more power to you. But to me it's making a piece far more complicated than it needs to be, even as a virtuoso piece. A piece of music shouldn't be made hard just for the sake of being hard. It should add something more to the music than just insane chord runs and octave jumping everywhere.
They're fun to listen to. But I checked out those etudes too, and not only are those impossible by any means, it doesn't even sound good.
Just my two cents.
Since everyone else is throwing in their 2 cents into the fountain, i think i'll contribute. Personally, i have not idea what everyone's problem with these arrangements are. IT'S MUSIC!! And is not music basically the gateway to the soul, just like your eyes? Nowadays, the people are getting more interested in music and the arts, some even going to lengths as to compose or arrange music. Music is what a person feels, and typically, a bunch of other people will feel the same way! MaestroUGC is doing just that! He finds that typical music that you find around the house or internet is a little too bare, so he brings out the desire to hear and feel the "intensity" and "fullness" of songs through his Virtuoso arrangements. There are simply some ungodly, jaw-dropping pianists out there (i am NOT one of them) who do find your run of the mill sheets a tad...easy. So, not only is Maestro expressing himself through his Virtuoso arrangements, he's also giving people that want a little more challenge that challenge! It was plainly stated on the front page that they were for Advanced Pianists! If you can't play the songs, then you can't play them! I can't play them, but does that mean I'm going to try and bring him down for going over the top? Music is music, and Maestro is just making epic and intense music. Now, it would be completely different if the current arrangements on the site were being replaced with these, but they AREN'T! Why should people be so against a hard piece of music! They are added to the site because they add more colour to our library and they ARE playable! To me, VG music IS an art. But, it has two goals. One, to bring out that nostalgia in people when you play it. Personally, its so cool to sit down, beat out a Legend of Zelda piece or two, and just watch as people gather around you to see and hear you do it. Second, to make people want to learn how to play it. The one song that Maestro made that i want more than anything to play is his Underwater arrangement. I want to play it because its such a twist on the original and because people wont be able to resist watching and wanting to learn to play it just because its so INTENSE!
So, please, leave MaestroUGC alone! There is no reason to state that you are for or against his compositions because he is doing exactly what just about everyone on this site is doing: making music. He just adds colour to it, and it is his signature, so to speak. Just accept that he sits around and produces arrangements that are simply a joy to listen to and not try and bring down his art form! Sorry, i rambled a lot, and probably deviated from my subject, but, i think we should just let him do what he is doing, because they are being added to the site, which means they amount to SOMETHING. :) Thank you :)
Applause.
I like these arrangements as well. Gives me goals, so to say. I estimate that it will take three or so years before I'm even able to try one of these songs, given that I continue to play as much as I do now and factoring in military service, but it's definately a goal to reach. And in the meantime, it's awesome to listen to.
I admit I'm a little weird in that I only play video game songs. I feared once that after I had learned Break The Targets (two more years? Three?), the video game music world would have nothing harder to offer, except for some random songs from little known games, and I would have to move to other stuff from way back when, pieces I have never heard of before and have no interest in.
But now, I think that as long as I play piano, there will always be one step up, another challenge, even when remaining in the realm of video games I know and love. Classics songs will have to be remastered when I reach a certain level. I can play the SMB Overworld theme now, if I try hard enough, but that's not to say I will be done with it once I want to move on to bigger challenges.
The SMB Underwater theme, for example, is lovely, but the bog-standard version will fall into the "too simple"-category after a while. Even if I like the song, and want to play it at a concert, most people will eventually expect more from me than that, and it will be another song I like, but can't bring out to the world (or at least the parents to the people at the piano school...). With this kind of arrangements around, I can once again broadcast the (originally relatively simple) piece once again, without disappointing anyone (primarily my parents and teacher).
Or, say I master the Dr. Mario theme (never gong to happen), but want a bigger challenge. Go to UGC, print and struggle all night to get the first few measures right. Wonderful!
Thanks a lot for arranging, take your time and stay around! Songs like these are worth waiting for, a break is not lowering our feelings for your work!
My two cents:
I agree with Empathica for a bit. Music doesn't have to be complicated to be good but let's be honest, Maestro's arrangements are good. I do have a little problem with Maestro's attitude, in the way that he sometimes strikes me a little bit arrogant... Sorry to say so, but the title "Virtuoso Submissions" by "Maestro" was interpreted by me the first time as meaning: "Submission made by a Virtuoso" (which is of course quite arrogant to say). Although it might mean "Submission made for a Virtuoso" as well. I don't know. I don't think Maestro is arrogant though, please lemme make that clear so I don't get angry reactions.
Summary: Sometimes I think the additions in order to make it a semi-impossible piece are too straight-forward (just adding octaves doesn't mean it gets better for instance!) and your attitude seems a little arrogant, the pieces are a great addition to this site, a real challenge for the advanced pianist who wants to play something more difficult than the regular stuff. And Maestro turned out to be a nice guy as well.
Wow, I had no idea I caused this much controversey...I thank you all for your support and criticism.
I feel as though I need to address some of the issues brought up here:
1) The "Virtuoso" tag-Let me make it perfectly clear: I am not a virtuoso by any means. How can I write these arrangements you may now be asking? I know the limitations of people and the piano. I may be a mediocre player, but I've studied the piano and pianists for years now, I have seen the impossible (Opus Clavicembalisticum) and I have never tried to go above that.
2) My incentive-I do indeed wish to add more to these popular theme of video games. In fact it first started as a challenge by my friends, "I bet you can't make the tetris theme sound better on the piano (made after a snide comment on a friend of mine's playing of the piece in question (we were joking around)). "You're on..." People loved the arrangement so I made more. Then I decided to join NSM and submit my arrangements...and here we are today.
3) My arrogance-Yes, I do have a certain degree of arrogance; but what musician doesn't. One of my choir directors said a few years ago "Show me a musician who isn't arraogant, and I'll show you a man who has no ability." Let's face it, we are all arrogant, some more so than others. Empathica has a little arrogance for making his statement, and I thank him for his criticism.
I have no problems if you don't like my arrangements or my own compositions, I won't hold it against you. It won't stop me from writing. I figure as long as one person enjoys it, I'm doing something right.
As for the requests:
Dire Dire Docks-A fantastic choice, it will be done.
Song of Storms-I'll get back to you on that.
As far as the Super Smash Bros. Series is concerned, I will only arrange one of those themes if I it has enough support. I won't do something that isn't supported. Don't worry, I'm sure the Final Destination will get its due (hint hint).
So I don't ignore people's requests without justification, I will only arrange a piece if it meets one of these two qulaification:
1) I really like the piece
2) It is supported by atleast five people here on this site (other than those who requested it).
There's that arrogance again, thank you for support.
--Maestro UGC--
I'm not trying to be arrogant and ignorantly bash Maestro, I'm not even trying to bash him at all. I like the way some of them sound. I also completely understand that there are a lot of unfathomably talented pianists out there who could do this stuff. I'm just saying that it doesn't seem like these pieces need to be as complicated as they are.
I think I just have a 'different' style of playing. I've been self-taught all my life and can do some pretty crazy things on the piano, but every day I see things online and even in person that make me feel completely below another person's level. I guess I'm kind of a minimalist in that I like my music to be as uncomplicated as possible while still retaining the sound and conveying the message. I'm very picky with what I play, and I personally just don't like unnecessary octave playing and chords on every 8th note, let alone both on the same hand.
Obviously there are exceptions, like the Athletic theme, in which it works very well, but even then I think it goes a little overboard. I've just always felt that video game music, especially older games (for which most of the music on this site is) is more suited for the not-so-masterful hands. Just looking at the books I have for Chrono Trigger, Zelda, and Final Fantasy kind of say that, even the Piano Collections.
Summary: I think you're a nice guy too, I don't have anything against you. I just think it's a bit excessive. You're a very talented composer and some of these do sound good, but it's just a bit much at times.
Quote from: Empathica1928 on August 08, 2009, 01:20:52 PMI think I just have a 'different' style of playing. I've been self-taught all my life and can do some pretty crazy things on the piano, but every day I see things online and even in person that make me feel completely below another person's level. I guess I'm kind of a minimalist in that I like my music to be as uncomplicated as possible while still retaining the sound and conveying the message. I'm very picky with what I play, and I personally just don't like unnecessary octave playing and chords on every 8th note, let alone both on the same hand.
And that's completely fine, that's why we have arrangers. So that way, there are many different versions and songs at many different levels. Just request something that you like, from an arranger that has the same style that you have. We have many arrangers with many styles. I'm pretty sure too that, if you ask nicely, that Maestro will happily ablige into making you a more simpler, more elegant piece that you wish to play.
In the meantime, happy playing.
Quote from: Brassman388 on August 08, 2009, 02:29:21 PMQuote from: Empathica1928 on August 08, 2009, 01:20:52 PMI think I just have a 'different' style of playing. I've been self-taught all my life and can do some pretty crazy things on the piano, but every day I see things online and even in person that make me feel completely below another person's level. I guess I'm kind of a minimalist in that I like my music to be as uncomplicated as possible while still retaining the sound and conveying the message. I'm very picky with what I play, and I personally just don't like unnecessary octave playing and chords on every 8th note, let alone both on the same hand.
And that's completely fine, that's why we have arrangers. So that way, there are many different versions and songs at many different levels. Just request something that you like, from an arranger that has the same style that you have. We have many arrangers with many styles. I'm pretty sure too that, if you ask nicely, that Maestro will happily ablige into making you a more simpler, more elegant piece that you wish to play.
In the meantime, happy playing.
I will have to look into that, then. I'm a regular user of the main site, but I'm fairly new to the forums. Thank you!
So is this issue resolved? The last thing I want is my thread to be filled with hatred towards each other over my music.
No hatred at all. Just different opinions ;)
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 08, 2009, 03:16:53 PMSo is this issue resolved? The last thing I want is my thread to be filled with hatred towards each other over my music.
Yea. And there's definitely no anger going on here, just different perspectives and opinions is all! Good luck with your writing, I'll still check them out since they're cool to listen to.
I respect your minimal preferences...but three notes is pushing it. At least it's not 4'33"...no disrespects to John Cage. But I want to pose a question to those who support my music.
Would any of you be willing to record my arrangements?
As I previously stated I can barely play my arrangements, and I know a few of you can. Would you simply film yourself playing?
I post all of my arrangements and my own compositions on YouTube, and they are simply audio files with a title screen. An actual performance will add color to my library.
Please get back to me on this...Hop Hop Donut Lifts will be completed soon, I promise.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 08, 2009, 09:25:25 PMWould any of you be willing to record my arrangements?
I have a friend that might be able to, I'll see if she will be willing to learn them.
I record most the songs I play for youtube, I will record LoZ overworld theme when I've learned it well (Could take 1-2 months though...). It's the song I'm working 2nd most on, there's another one I've almost learned full speed that is of my highest interest right now.
I might get into your SMB2 and SMB3 arrangments later (in a month or two maybe) but at this point I can't promise anything for them.
Hop Hop Donut Lifts from Yoshi's Island.
Up next - Duke Palace from Majora's Mask in the future...hopefully soon.
As usual, awesome. But I think parts of page 3 could benefit from some 8va.
That's all I have to say, really. Keep up!
Ooh, I missed that in my review...I'll fix it. Thanks.
For me, with the new piece, i like 5/6 pages. My problem is that in the final page you kinda have things beating out and power chords left and right, but then you kinda end...not weak, just, dull. As in, not exactly milk, but not quite a milk shake (a penny to everyone that got that). If it were me, i would end on a chord after your sextuplets (i think?)
I tried that, but it seemed really cliche and akward...at least to me. Besides interpretation is left up to the players.
wrong chords, missed rythems, overall sloppy arrangement (just critisizm, no intention to offend) a really noticable problem is in measure 9(and every measure like it) the last 2 beats' chords are incorrect. here, (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=739.0) i made a small ensamble of this song a while back-it should help u. other than that, nice creativity, i would really like 2 see this song on the site. keep up the good work!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 08, 2009, 09:25:25 PMWould any of you be willing to record my arrangements?
Sure thing. I'm working on Lost Woods at the moment. I don't have a video camera, so I just replace the video with game footage. I'm already working on two pieces for some friends, but after that I can go at it hard core. Doesn't seem too bad. Could probably get it done by mid-September, unless I've horribly underestimated my schedule next year. Anyway, I'll let you know.
EDIT: Just realized I probably won't have my recording equipment at college. Not sure if anyone else will be bringing a camera. If not, I'll be able to do it over break though.
Should I just post it here when I'm done then, or would you prefer a PM?
A PM, that way I can review it and post it, and I'll gaive anyone who plays their credit.
I just looked at your Dr. Mario arrangement. I really liked your technique of starting slow and then accelerando to full blast in the Mario Water level, but I really don't think it works with that piece.
Just my $0.02.
All hospitals have a waiting room...playing simple elevator music.
Just my two cents about some of the arrangements, like in the Mario overworlds and all that... I think the left hand parts in the middle of the arrangement could be omitted entirely and replaced with the original feel. Like in Hop Hop Donut Lifts, when the left hand starts to play the lead that the right hand was playing, it loses a lot of punch that the song had. When the left is playing the same thing the right is, and especially when the left plays a melody (like in HHDL), it just loses a lot of the rhythmic bounce and meaty sound in the bass.
Might be something to think about. Just my observation. Otherwise, well done.
Hop Hop Donut Lifts are amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT WORK!
Deku Palace from Majora's Mask added...a very savage piece it is.
Birabuto from Super Mario Land 1 coming soon...maybe...
I love it! Your best one yet, imo.
Good arrangement, I always hated the song though (Listened to it for 2 hours as kid trying to get past the deku platforms to the cage monkey)
Frustrations aside, you learn to love all music...despite lost time and horrible memories.
Question about the Lost Woods. There's a small discrepancy: It gives 150 by the tempo marking, but Finale plays it at 120. I'm assuming the 150 is correct?
Huh, well I checked it and plays at the right tempo, it just says 120, I don't know why though. So the 150 is correct.
Sorry I didn't reply for about a month, it's because I don't have internet. I've listened to Deku Palace, and it sounds amazing :D
Super Mario Land Medley added.
Happy Halloween. I'm really sorry this took so long to get posted, but I was having issues with Finale. I now work with 2010 so these issues are now resolved. Also, I want some reccomendations for two Final Fantasy Themes to arrange. Please only two unless I say otherwise.
Coming soon (I promise): Super Mario Galaxy-Final Bowser Theme
Oh, Finale 2010...
Am I the only one who finds it retarded that Finale release an entirely new program whenever a new version is out, instead of providing a patch for the program you already have on your computer? It's almost like asking this question to consumers:
"You have to download a new program in order to view this file. Do you want to log on to our page, go through a stupid password retrieval process and download a very basic program you already have on your computer from there, or go to Google and pirate our most extensive product? Both alternatives requires an equal amount of time and effort"
I'll comment on the arrangement later. In half an hour, when Reader '10 is fully downloaded. If Reader '11 is more than just a patch for Reader '10, I'll pirate a higher product of theirs.
Ah, modern wit at its finest.
Ahh... the sheet, then (good thing Reader 2009 deleted itself when I installed Reader '10).
I liked it. As usual. But I think you could have used some more 8va and 8vb in places, though as the chords were usually exactly one octave spread, perhaps it wasn't needed. Still, there were some high parts where I'd like to have some 8va (measures 15-20, for instance). Measure 63 and 64 needs 8vb, and perhaps 75 needs that as well. For a 13-page sheet, that's remarkably little to pick on.
Also, the text at the top of each page reads "Birabuto", though only the first part of the song is from the Birabuto Kingdom. Thought I'd point out that.
I thought I fixed the title issue. Well I'll fix it re-uplaod the sheet.
YAY UGC posted again! Happy Halloween everyone!
EDIT: just heard the Super Mario Land Medley, love the originality in it, trills, etc. Beautiful/epic are the two words that can really describe it. Great job!
Really liked the trilled transition. I'd really have a blast hamming that up. Also, is it just me or was there a Rachmaninoff reference near the beginning of the third or fourth song? And random fact: all the grace notes at the end are scary.
That medley is awesome! To bad I can't really play piano that well. I especially like the Birabuto section at the start :D
Yep, it really is a nice medley. When I have more time to play and when I'll be a better pianist, I'll learn your medley.
I thank you all for your comments and I hope you can forgive me of its lateness.
^with a song like that of course! :D
Oh, forgot about Final Fantasy: the castle theme from FFI is beautiful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c79VBzwKTO8
That is a beautiful melody, baroque with a lot of room for development. I'll do it.
Oooooh, I wonder if you could do a virtuoso tag of Besaid Island from the FFX Piano Collections?
Can you give me a link?
There you go :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqanNnczYjA
^^ thanks
I can't open your newest arrangement for some reason...
(I tried to open it with Finale Reader 2009)
You need Reader 2010, sorry.
This may be a lot to ask about, but I've got a question:
It seems like you always have a pretty big queue of songs you're going to "virtousify", and you keep taking requests (and that's awesome). I know several of these may not be fulfilled, or at least pushed down the queue, but could you possibly post a list of songs you're going to do, in your first post? You provided a list some pages back, but could you put another in the initial post of this topic? This way, we can see what to expect (some day), you can ask about which ones to give priority, and we'll prevent a lot of double requests. And we can know what to look forward to.
Is it an idea?
I like to keep you all in suspense...
Final Bowser from Super Mario Galaxy added.
[Wii] Super Mario Galaxy-"Final Bowser"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/zomamlvghgf/Final%20Battle.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/hynuxzn250z/Final%20Battle.mid)
I'll try to quicken the pace since my over-extended hiatus. Again, commentary welcome.
Coming soon: Super Smash Brothers Brawl-Main Theme........That's right, I said it.
UGC, you never cease to amaze me. But you've always ceased to make me dissapointed. ;) I haven't heard the song yet, but I just know I might die from how great it might sound.
SSBB Main Theme • Virtuoso = Epic
Have you taken into consideration the Besaid Island theme yet? Roz~ put up a link a few posts ago.
I have...its not quite what I'm looking for.
I see what you mean.
Just heard the Final Bowser theme, at first I did not think it could get anymore better than the original, but once again, this song you made just amazed me. I love how you kept the original song in there while adding your own style in it and more. I also like where (I was a little dissapointed :P at first) where you had those staccato notes for the main "chorus" and then just filled the song up. Ending: loved the originality in it. Well thought up, very good job. :)
EDIT:^^ not sure if some of that made sense. After a little investigation, I've found some similarities between this song and some of my own Chaos remixes. I'll point a few, (I'll use the MIDI timer since I only have Reader 2009).
1) At about 0:04, in the left hand there is a little swirly, I guess I would call it, similar to what I have in my Final Bowser 64 mix.
2) from about 1:29-1:31 the notes go into a lower octave, kind of what I have in my Battlerock one so far.
I'm not saying that you were copying, I'm just saying it sounded similar. It's a little of a coincidence though. Once again, great job on this song. (and if it's ok, i'll like to copy that style you have in the left hand starting at 1:38 for my Battlerock-Chaos, which should be up in about a week or two. You can see what I have currently in the Home-made compositions place.
See you around. :)
also, may I make a request for the Megaleg battle (contradiction, I know) and Koopa's Road (Bowser's Star Reactor). I'm pretty sure you know both songs.
Megaleg...sorry but no. My Galaxy quota is filled for my 50 total. As far as Koopa's Road goes...
:o 50!? WoW!
So Koopa's Road is an official request? *crossesfingers*
Main Theme from Super Smash Bros. Brawl added.
[Wii] Super Smash Brothers Brawl-"Main Theme"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ijxozygzfjb/Brawl-Main%20Theme.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/k24voj0hmg2/Brawl-Main%20Theme.mid)
A note: This isn't like my normal form. During the transcrition process I realized how insanely complicated it is, like most orchestral transcriptions. So what you have here is simply a transcription with some liberties...Enjoy!
Coming Soon: Something from SM64...
Gosh, UGC, I hate you! You get these songs done so fast while I'm here struggling. :P Gotta listen to SSBB in the morning.
Final Bowser Battle 64, baby! That is going to be epicly epic, I just know it. (My favorite theme from SM64 ::) )
EDIT: hmmmm, just heard it, it's not one of your best works in sound, I must say, but I can clearly hear how hard the notation is. Great job, though, sounds a lot better than the original. :)
P.S. on your youtube video, you misspelled "total" in the phrase "toatl awesomeness and epic win :P
The brawl theme sounds great!
I treated it more of a transcription than I did an arrangement. That attributed to its uniqueness in sound and quality.
Brawl Main Theme is cool, but why does it repeat? It's a typical "play once" song, it's only in the menus that it repeats.
Other than that, I have no issues with it. At times, it sounded a little "overkill" with chords, but I guess that's just Finale. Can't wait to see more!
And "something" from SM64... unless you're doing Lethal Lava Land or Big Boo's Haunt, it's going to be awesome. All the other songs in that game are among the best video game songs ever written. Even Select a File would make me happy.
Glad to see your making more sheetmusic... But now I have to download Finale 2010 :\
Quote from: Taser9090 on November 11, 2009, 12:48:46 PMGlad to see your making more sheetmusic... But now I have to download Finale 2010 :\
No, download Finale Reader.
Quote from: GreekGeek on November 11, 2009, 01:55:35 PMQuote from: Taser9090 on November 11, 2009, 12:48:46 PMGlad to see your making more sheetmusic... But now I have to download Finale 2010 :\
No, download Finale Reader.
I know that, but it's in Finale Reader 2010. That's what I meant by Finale 2010 :p
[N64] Super Mario 64-"Koopa's Road-Final Bowser"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/mowgtjtzmtk/Koopa's%20Road-Final%20Bowser.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/jthe4btjlzt/Koopa's%20Road-Final%20Bowser.mid)
Koopa's Road and Final Bowser from Super Mario 64 added.
This ends the second collection of arrangements. The next ten will include:
Pokemon Red: Title Theme
Pokemon Red: Elite Four
Arcade Medley
Super Mario World: Ending
Yoshi's Island: Castle
Super Smash Bros Melee: Fountain of Dreams
Diddy Kong Racing: Wizpig Race
Super Mario Sunshine: Delfino Plaza
Luigi's Mansion: Main Theme
....................................................................?
It's a surprise.
After listening to this, I could die happy. :D Superb job, I'm really just speechless. And I'm glad my request was taken early. :D Love it Love it Love it!
I was going to do it anyway...You just had amazing timing.
That's always been a quality of mine. Just not sure if it's good or bad...
Quote from: universe-X on November 22, 2009, 08:02:31 PMThat's always been a quality of mine. Just not sure if it's good or bad...
That depends on the situation I guess ;D
Wow! Your arrangement is awesome. I especially like the Koopa's Road section at the start. I tried to arrange that a few weeks back but I failed miserably lol. I'm really, really looking forward to Fountain of Dreams from SSBM. I've always loved that song.
ok, I'd like to make a request!
Super Mario Bros. - Underground theme
SSBB - Airships theme :P
Please tell what you think about them. :)
Underground Theme-its only 6 bars of music, I can probably tie it into something.
Airship Theme-Not enough music in the music. No.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on November 23, 2009, 06:13:29 AMUnderground Theme-its only 6 bars of music, I can probably tie it into something.
Airship Theme-Not enough music in the music. No.
I was hoping you were gonna say that about the Underground theme :)
what do you mean by not enough music in the music?
There is little to no thematic material in either theme, but the underground theme has manifested itself everywhere in Mario Games.
Ok...
well then I'd like to put in another request: Bob-Omb Battlefield, the one on NSM is so much more 'shredded down' than the one before/the original, so I think this one is understandable. ;)
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team-brh.com%2Fforums%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fretard.png&hash=788aaf14591739b44f240ab3d6f4c897be6515a3)
The Final Bower sheet is epic. Would sound so awesome when played.
<<< needs Finale Reader 2010 so badly right now!
Ha, and playing it half tempo still makes it sound awesome :D
*gasp* did Kefka just use an... emoticon?!?
just proves that the song is great
I use them quite often. Not a big deal.
Sorry, that I never seem to stop with the requets, but I do have, yet another one:
Koopa Battle from Super Mario World:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsJC9eKq3Zg
^I only tried looking for this one. What do you think about it?
Sorry to dissappoint everyone, but all I need at this point is a Final Fantasy theme. I'm already doing Cornelia Castle, so if you would be so kind as to suggest another theme, I will have reached my 50 theme marker. After I accept a theme, I will no longer take any suggestions.
Thank you for your time. Expect some Pokemon stuff in the coming weeks.
Sorry, don't know any Final Fantasy, but what happens after the 50 mark?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on November 29, 2009, 06:59:32 PMSorry to dissappoint everyone, but all I need at this point is a Final Fantasy theme. I'm already doing Cornelia Castle, so if you would be so kind as to suggest another theme, I will have reached my 50 theme marker. After I accept a theme, I will no longer take any suggestions.
Thank you for your time. Expect some Pokemon stuff in the coming weeks.
Dancing mad!!!! Or any of the battle themes... :D
DANCING MAD. YES. DO IT. BE BETTER THAN THE FANTASY REBORN VERSION AND I WILL LOVE YOU.
In the straightest way possible.
Since you're doing all this pokemon music, I think it'd be cool if you arranged the Gym Leader battle in the red/blue versions of pokemon. It sounds like a difficult piece, however I'm surprised that I can't find sheet music for it anywhere on the internet.
Dancing mad all the way.
Quote from: Anonymoose on December 15, 2009, 06:53:16 PMSince you're doing all this pokemon music, I think it'd be cool if you arranged the Gym Leader battle in the red/blue versions of pokemon. It sounds like a difficult piece, however I'm surprised that I can't find sheet music for it anywhere on the internet.
If you want to I can arrange it, OK? Have a look at my thread there are a lot of Pokémon arrangments.
I agree. Dancing Mad. Nao.
(Please don't shun me)
I haven't heard it, but lets go with Dancing Mad!
Dancing Mad...I'll take the case!
I'm really looking forward to see your arrangement of this song. :D
[GB] Pokemon: Red Version-"Title Theme"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/wmd5imqzh4c/Pokemon%20Red-Title%20Theme.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/tytqy3mdmzy/Pokemon%20Red-Title%20Theme.mid)
I gave one note for each pokemon that was, is and will be from now to eternity.
Coming soon: Pokemon Red - Elite Four
Quote from: MaestroUGC on December 23, 2009, 05:19:35 PMI gave one note for each pokemon that was, is and will be from now to eternity.
What? I counted 152 by measure 13. That would make well over 1,000 by the end. How exactly were you counting?
It was a joke, since Nintendo adds 50+ pokemon with each installment.
Wow, I'm not a very big POkemon fan, as in, I don't have any pokemon games/cards/toys/pictures, etc But I recognize this theme from brawl. Very well done, I must say! No way I could do something like this<< (I must've said this so many times by now) Great job, keep it up! :)
YES! A new update :D And it's the title screen!
Edit: Looks like MediaFire's updating... I really want to play it D:
Merry Christmas!
Secret (http://www.mediafire.com/file/omkinzojhej/Tetris.mus)
I want to thank all of you for your support in my work, and your patience in these recent times. I offer a sample of a side project of mine.
This is my way of thanking all of you for without you I wouldn't Work on these arrangements with the same intensity. Enjoy this little trinket, and have a great new year.
---MaestroUGC---
Wow... the Pokémon arrangement is... awesome...
So is the Secret one! Can't wait to see the full version!
Great work!
The "Secret" sounds great so far! But, you might wanna speed up the beginning just a tiny bit. ;) otherwise, great rendition! Sounds like another version of the song I know...
I think I found someone that's able to play some of these arrangements, but it looks like he's based on speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlfz2WBeaHA&NR=1
Someone else:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbIZy3EBpPE&feature=related
Call me stupid, but I had no idea that the Maple Leaf Rag sounded so much like the Athletic Theme from SMW.
...thanks?
Don't you think you should put a few of these up for submission?
Elite Four from Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow added.
[GB] Pokemon Red, Blue. and Yellow-"Elite Four"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/r5o5q33gnjm/Pokemon%20Red-Elite%20Four.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/tuli2dmwo3o/Pokemon%20Red-Elite%20Four.mid)
A slight change in plans, My next arrangement will not be the Smithy Battle for Super Mario RPG. Instead I want to give a tribute to video game music's roots...I'm going to make a medley of some of the greatest Arcade themes ever.
At this point I plan on arranging the following themes:
Donkey Kong - Game Start and Level one with Hammer
Pac-Man - an elaboration of a few of its historical themes
Dig-Dug - In Game Music
Galaga - Title Screen
I won't begin work until after New Year's so if there are some games that you want me to touch on, make a post by Jan. 4th, 2010.
When you say, "Games that you want me to touch on", you mean games for the medley? Because I think that's all you need for it really. ;)
Wow... Elite Four.... I must say, I was slightly disappointed at first, then the last two pages came and blew me away. Just like the song is meant to be. Wilder and wilder and more intense until somebody drops, be it the player, the audience or the opponent in-game. I listened to it again, and immediately liked the entire song a lot better. Weirdly enough, this song is only used in the entrance hall of the Indigo Plateau, never in-battle in any game.
Thanks a lot!
The first parts of the Elite Four were slow, but then it got faster and sounded better :D
My favorite song from the arcade games you chose were Dig-Dug ;)
Quote from: Cobraroll on December 31, 2009, 02:03:33 AMWow... Elite Four.... I must say, I was slightly disappointed at first, then the last two pages came and blew me away. Just like the song is meant to be. Wilder and wilder and more intense until somebody drops, be it the player, the audience or the opponent in-game. I listened to it again, and immediately liked the entire song a lot better. Weirdly enough, this song is only used in the entrance hall of the Indigo Plateau, never in-battle in any game.
Thanks a lot!
You didn't think I'd wimp out on this did you?
So is it agreed that I don't need more than those 4 games?
Maybe, just maybe you could possibly throw in some Street Fighter [2] in there? I think I remember it being arcade...
I only want classic Arcade games...Street Fighter isn't quite classic.
Wow, some of the notes on this song were hard to... get at first look. The melody seemed pretty obvious, but this one is a real finger-twister! And remember, I'm not a Pokemon fan... Superb job!
And I think those 4 songs are all you need then for your medley.
DO DEFENDER MUSIC.
Looking at the main page, and later the "submissions for next update" thread, I haven't seen any of your arrangements being among the newly/soon-to-be uploaded. Is there a reason for this?
I just can't donate the time to submit them, monitor the post for correction and etc...
I already lose time for making the arrangements.
I can probably submit it for you. I mean, all you need is the MUS & MIDI, right? And your arrangements are usually perfectly formatted, so . . . yeah.
Thanks but no, there's still the issue fixing the issues...which only I can do.
I don't believe you had much of an issue with that before, but I guess I'll have to check back on that.
And there's no harm in trying ;)
Arcade Medley added.
[Arcade] Donkey kong, Pac-Man, Dig-Dug, Galaga-"Medley"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/odznz2oqo20/Arcade%20Medley.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/l2qkmmdmnym/Arcade%20Medley.mid)
Enjoy this tribute to our roots.
Up next: Super Mario World Credits
So, I'm guessing you gave up on Dancing Mad?
No, I'm still going to do it, but not 'till later.
This sounded absolutely great! Nothing different from the usual expectations . . .
A little surprised to see no Mario Bros., being a hardcore Mario fan, etc, but Donkey Kong made up for it. :D Awesome.
See: Arcade
The arcade medley was great. I could only expect so much from you :p
I can't wait for SMW
I love your arcade medley. Unfortunately I would be never able to play it on a piano. However, great arrangments and I think this medley was missing on this site. Well done!
i love ur arcade medley.... its...beautiful!
Thank you, thank you, and thank you.
[SNES] Super Mario World-"Ending Theme"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/nimyiniaqqd/Ending.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/zt1zumej1yi/Ending.mid)
Ending Theme from Super Mario World Added. Enjoy.
Next Up:
Yoshi's Island: Castle
I'm not able to open the MUS or MIDI at the moment, but that could just be me. . .
Works fine for me.
OK, I got it open. I love how everything seems to be increasing: sound, difficulty, speed. And then that sudden change in speed brings everything back to normal. Then finally, the classic "rag ending". You definitely did not hold back on this...
im usually a big fan of the work u do, however the ending song sort of dissapointed me...im lovin the 12/8 time but, u left some things out, had the occasional missed rhythm, and that whole bridging thing u added-i think could have been alot better... i love the things u do-just look over this one once more...
Well I'm sorry you feel that way...maybe this can make up for it.
[SNES] Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island-"Castle"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/nz5zmizzuwd/Castle.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/zryzdutiymw/Castle.mid)
Up next:
Super Smash Bros. Melee: Fountain of Dreams.
Holy crap! That was quick!
Heard it, and it is kind of losing that "Virtuoso" aspect . . .
The ending and beginning were both pretty easy, only the middle was a bit more of a challenge, but with enough practice, the full song could be played by an intermediate -> mid-expert. Just try to remember what tools make up a virtuoso player. Not just different time signatures, fast tempo, or too many "filler" notes. On the actual song, great job, but it truly could've been better . . .
Yeah, I know...I designed these past two to be one of my "forgetable" arrangements (you can't write only masterpieces).
I'll make sure these next few will blow you away. Besides, the way I planned this was to have each set of ten performed in one setting. These middle arrangements give the player a break from the hustle. I have no intentions of revising them for this reason.
The Ending theme is essentially a false ending. Designed to make the audience think the set was over, or at least was going to end prematurely. This was a technique used heavily by Beethoven, the man with a everlasting ending.
The Castle theme is a more relaxed waltz (when compared to the Underwater theme) as the theme itself was heavily subued in the game. Unjustly so in my opinion. When I arrange, I think of everything, and so difficulty came into effect in this calmer middle section.
Makes perfect sense, you are forgiven :P ;D
Make sure Fountain of Dreams is actually playable, unlike 90% of the arrangements out there.
I can't believe I missed the Super Mario World Ending >.<
The SMW Ending wasn't very intense, but it was relaxing to hear. Still practicing on playing it.
The Yoshi's Island castle wasn't intense either, but I don't think it would sound very good :p
SMW Ending isn't as good as Brian's one from a long while ago, but meh. The Castle theme sounds fun to play :D
I'll probably try it .later
Fountain of Dreams from Super Smash Bros. Melee added.
[GCN] Super Smash Bros. Melee-"Fountain of Dreams"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/mw2lt3ugmqg/Melee-Fountain%20of%20Dreams.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/mjmt1mjk0mw/Melee-Fountain%20of%20Dreams.mid)
Up next...will not be any from Twilight Princess.
Diddy Kong Racing-Wizpig Race, as per the request of a good friend.
Wow.
It took about an hour to download this (MediaFire went screwy), but it was well worth the wait. Awesome. That's all I can say.
Quote from: Cobraroll on January 31, 2010, 05:22:14 AMWow.
It took about an hour to download this (MediaFire went screwy), but it was well worth the wait. Awesome. That's all I can say.
I can't even get to the site :\
I bet it sounds good.
Same here, Mediafire is crap.
...Maybe its a server issue.
I can give you the file directly next time we talk if you want.
You can get to the site, if you just try enough times.
I broke through on the 13th or 14th. Can't remember.
Also, just to annoy all you who don't manage to get to the download: This arrangement is EPIC.
Mediafire died. Upload it somewhere else for now.
I had no trouble downloading it. Epic arrangement for sure! ;D
The page actually loads now for me, but it stalls at "processing download request". The site is still broken.
EDIT: And now it's back. Decent arrangement, almost playable. You just need to change the set of 16th note chords on page 7 to something more reasonable.
Finally, it downloaded :D
I'm not too great in piano, so I wan't be able to play this piece :(
I could finally download it! It's a great arrangment, well done!
But there is something I want to mention: Have a look at measure 10/14. Leave that whole note, it's neither necessary or playble like that. Probably you should change measure 48 to 53 a bit, since this is not playable. That's just what I think.
Nevertheless, it's a great arrangment.
Great song you did here. (I heard the YouTube vid :P ) I'm gonna have to agree with Kefka that the right hand's 16th notes were a little unnecessary. It acts as a countermelody, but feels too... extra. Great job, however! If I remember correctly it was an orchestral arrangement? Well done. I was planning on doing a Mario Paint of the original, soon.
dahans is right about 48-53. There are chords that are unplayable. Otherwise it's just stressing.
Wizpig Race from Diddy Kong Racing added.
[N64] Diddy Kong Racing-"Wizpig Race"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/iddzegcw0my/Diddy%20Kong%20Racing-Wizpig%20Race.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/y3nwnyamq1z/Diddy%20Kong%20Racing-Wizpig%20Race.mid)
Up Next:
Super Mario Sunshine: Delfino Plaza
Wow, you're really picking up on these arrangements! Great job, as usual! :D
Well, since I finished the quartet I have a lot more time now.
Wow, was that really what was taking up all your time?
That and other things. Of course, now I try to arrange mainly on the weekends so I don't distract myself from my other obligations. So from now on expect an update every other week or so.
I never played the Diddy Kong Racing series, so I can't really talk about it :p (It did sound intense though)
I can't wait for Delfino Plaza! It reminds me so much of Super Mario Sunshine... But not as much as Bianco Hills :p
Ah, brings back memories, the Wizpig race theme.
Wow, the Fountain of Dreams one is fantastic. :D Don't think I'll even bother trying with it tho.
Never played through DKR, but the Wizpig Race sounds awesome! Nice work Maestro.
[GCN] Super Mario Sunshine-"Delfino Plaza"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/lutcvodjzyt/Super%20Mario%20Sunshine-Delfino%20Plaza.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3t2ftw2oynk/Super%20Mario%20Sunshine-Delfino%20Plaza.mid)
Delfino Plaza from Super Mario Sunshine Added.
Up Next: Main Theme from Luigi's Mansion added.
I know I said I was doing a medley, but I need to save my time for another project...
sucks not having Finale...
It sounds great, though! Just an idea, you might wanna avoid 16 notes of the same chord in a row in the left hand. Too easy ;) But, this version you have here would be great for a party song! Nice job!
Looking forward to Luigi's Manhsion!
Delfino Plaza is your best arrangment of all.
wow, love Delfino Plaza!! :D GREAT AND Fountain of Dreams!! :D
and... uh... what Finale are you using that i cant open it up in Finale 2009? are you using Finale 2010?
I'm working with 2010.
ah.. thats why.. ok
Wow, I love the Delfino Plaza arrangement! Awesome work!
Wow. Am I the only one that thinks it's a bland abuse of chords?
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on February 07, 2010, 12:09:10 PMWow. Am I the only one that thinks it's a bland abuse of chords?
agreed! i think his arrangements are great and all but it's just a bunch of chords that make the piece sound to heavy.
[GCN] Luigi's Mansion-"Main Theme"-MaesroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/axnzytjijmh/Luigi's%20Mansion-Main%20Theme.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/kwlnz2mzmjz/Luigi's%20Mansion-Main%20Theme.mid)
Main Theme from Luigi's Mansion added.
Up next:..............................
It's a secret...a very long and time consuming secret. Expect it sometime...
They just coming faster and faster.
Sounds great, by the way!
I wonder... Is the next song going to be piano,
or orchestral?
Well you can keep wondering.
Gusty Garden Galaxy? :P
Luigi's Mansion sounded great. I wish my disc wasn't broken... Haven't played it since I was 8.
I hope the next piece will be intense :p
Dancing Mad!?!?! haha maybe someday... ;)
I think this is song #36 he is working on. Dancing Mad is song #50 ;)
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU
Close...I'm now working on song #30.
Dancing mad is song #46.
So then what's song #50?
You'll find out.
The secret surpirse is underway. With 15% completed in one week, I estimate it will be completed by the end of March, just before spring break.
I thank you for your patience.
I can't wait. I wonder if it will be just piano, or a chorus of instruments... But of course you won't tell me :p
Dang! It's either a long song or a orchestration or awesome!
It had better be playable. If you give us some arpeggio of chords I'll be pissed.
Status Update: 25% Completed.
New Information: It is in 7 Movements.
Holy crap
Just wondering, what ever happened to SMR: Smithy Battle? Did that get replaced by Wipzig?
Also, the MUS links to your first 4 songs in the Uploaded section are invalid.
Yes, the Smithy Battle was replaced by Wizpig.
Which songs are those?
The SMB theme, Type A theme, SMB Underwater, and LoZ Overworld.
They're all on the site...go there.
Yeah... just thought I'd let you know.
They're in the uploaded section because they're on the site.
Hey while you guys are waiting, do you want me to arrange anything for a string quartet?
I'm quite bored at the time and this surprise is very tedious to arrange; this string quartet will give me some new fire for the surprise.
^What about Inside The Castle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpOP0L3A7_Q&feature=related) from Super Mario 64? Or would that require a horn part?
It would need a horn...
But my friend and I played a duet of this song (violin and cello). It didn't sound bad without the horn. If you want strict quartet stuff, then leave the horn out and use the cello as a replacement, or bass if need be.
I know how to handle a quartet, I just want ideas.
I do like the castle theme, there's one option.
I always thought the Ballad of the Wind Fish from Link's Awakening would make a great string quartet.
How does this sound...A Super Mario 64 Medley for a String Quartet.
SHould be good!
Sounds good already.
I'm on a hiatus!
I know I promised this great surpirse, and it is coming. This is a really busy time in my life and I need to focus on some other things, primarily school and my own music. I will still work on it, but don't expect it to come anytime soon.
Thank you.
Sure beans
IT IS DONE!
Nice! But how do you really define "hiatus"? You posted today that it won't be ready anytime soon, and next thing I know, you say it's done.
Is it uploaded too?
No not the surpirse...my year long endeavor is finished....
Okay to further add to the confusion...the hiatus is over.
I mainly wanted to take the time off so I could finish my 4th symphony; but since I finished that much sooner thatn I expected, I can get back to work.
And with that:
Current progress: 50%
New information: Expected runtime: 1 hr 2 min 30 sec (est.)
Wait... so it's an hour long song!? Or am i misunderstanding?
No, actually it's about 62.5 minutes long...
approximately
You are both right.
I finally finished my symphony.
Symphony No. 4 "Civility" in C Minor, Op. 22 (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=1685.msg49892#new)
Current Progress: 75%
New Information: It's a medley...from the N64.
Oh gosh, that just builds the tension up!
I wonder what it's gonna be!? :o
Oooh... that sounds... mighty good...
Can't wait!
Current progress: 90%
New Information: Expected completion time...12 hrs.
I can't wait to hear it :D
omg... 12 hours... How can you even arrange something that long?!?!
he's going to complete it in 12 hours...
it's supposed to be about an hour long...
o_0
For behold, you may now worship me.
[N64] The Banjo-Kazooie Suite-"Banjo-Kazooie/Banjo-Tooie"-MaestroUGC MUS and MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/gjddmmmlmdk/MUS%20and%20Midi%20Files.zip) Garritan (http://www.filefront.com/15887207/WAV%20Files.zip)
Yeah, I did it.
Enjoy. I know you will.
Thank you, Grant Kirkhope
*Note: Files inside the zipped folders are not in order. Use your intuition to open them in the right order.*
The "To The Continuing Saga" MUS and MIDI is not working for me.
However, the other songs are marvelous. It almost makes me want to play BK again. Spectacular job. :D
Really?
Here: MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/tzidzm22ivv/V-The%20Continuing%20Saga.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/nzkywfyfgmu/V-The%20Continuing%20Saga.mid)
I'll listen to it tomorrow.
Once again, awesome job! :)
and just in time for that Video Project too.
Speaking as one of the only people here with chance of ever making that sound good (unless Alpras comes back)... probably not gonna happen.
Other than that, great job. Looks really fun. My only complaint is that the opening chords of "The Adventure Begins" are way too big.
Quote from: Seeker on March 21, 2010, 05:28:22 AMSpeaking as the only person here with chance of ever making that sound good (unless Alpras comes back)... not gonna happen.
Other than that, great job. Looks really fun. My only complaint is that the opening chords of "The Adventure Begins" are way too big.
That is not true! I could make it sound good too. :D I have been learning piano for 10 years now, so I can say I am quite good. However well done! Although I am not really familiar with this soundtrack, it sounds good. I agree with seeker some chords are too big. Well done!
Oops, sorry about that. Fixed now.
I know about the chord size, those are intended to be glissed, I just didn't want write all of the in.
I had actually been wanting to do this for a while now, then the video project came along...not bad for doing all of this in three months, huh?
Quick question: Are you missing the Fourth movement? Or is there a typo somewhere, because the files go I, II, III, V, VI. Just a-wondrin.
Edit: I forgot to praise this (silly me). This is by far the best one that you have cranked out and if only these fingers were nimble enough (glances of in a longing manner into a dark void to stage right). I truly did love every second contained within this fine suite! This coming from the guy who has both soundtracks on his iPod, however, shouldn't truly be surprising. Masterful work as always, and likewise I await with bated breath your next piece.
Well thank you, Mov. IV is on the same sheet as Mov. III, and the same deal with Movs. VI and VII.
This may very well be the peak of my career, but don't worry, I'm not done yet...
On that note, here is the next ten I will arrange:
Super Mario RPG: Mushroom Kingdom
Donkey Kong Country 2: Haunted Chase
Super mario 64: The Princess' Secret Slide
The Legend of Zelda-Wind Waker: Song of Storms
Super Mario Bros 3: Airship Theme
Pikmin 2: Awakening Wood
Super Mario 64: Dire Dire Docks
Super Mario World 2-Yoshi's Island: Map Theme
Pikmin: Medley
Donkey Kong 64: Medley
Yes, I have to do Kirkhope's other great masterpiece for the N64.
The best has yet to come...trust me...
Well, just listened to Movement V. And just like the others, it was great! Nice! I'm looking forward to the next set too!
Hmm... I've never played the series, so I guess I can't fully enjoy the arrangement :\
I will look forward to The Impact Site, though. It sounds relaxing when night comes :p
wow. ive never played their games, but i have the soundtrack of the newest one, so ive heard the songs, and a lot of them i can recongize out of that Suite. its fantastic, Maestro, definitely your best work so far, in my opinion.
The fuck is this, what do you mean you haven't played any in the series?
Either go buy an N64 right now or download Project 64 and the ROMs.
Or get them on Xbox Live Arcade!
haha, to be honest, ive thought about getting Nuts and Bolts.... but i never got to it.
Not Nuts & Bolts, get the GOOD games. The originals.
Great work, by the way, Maestro. I love B-K's music and this is a really great set of arrangements. Looking forward to more from you and I like the sound of a DK64 medley. ;D
Nuts & Bolts is still a rather good game though.
I think Nuts and Bolts was definately not the worst game I've ever played, but nor was it the best (not quite milk, but not quite milkshake). If they were to do another BK installment, I would hope they would do it just like the Classics: the RIGHT way. BK just isn't meant to be a racing game.
Alas, deviation from the topic. Personally, im extremely excited about the Song of Storms arrangement.
The surprise is great!
But don't forget to copypaste some of the links in the update thread ;)!
Super Mario RPG-"Mushroom Kingdom"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/uetljym5nkd/Mushroom%20Kingdom.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/m2zr0ty4mdw/Mushroom%20Kingdom.mid)
Well, here it is. Expect the Super Mario 64 Quartet within the next... 3 months?
Up Next:
Donkey Kong Country 2: Haunted Chase
♫ Scrub Scrub Scrub All the floors in Hyrule
Scrub Scrub Scrub All the floors in Gamelon
Scrub Scrub Scrub My ship, in the morning
Scrub Scrub Scrub My wii ♫
Nice job!
...?
Sing-along lyrics! :D
well. dont get me wrong, the Mario RPG mushroom kingdom is verryyyyyyyyyyy good. but i think the simple one already on the site is a little more...playable.
Playability is a relative term.
No. When the majority of people that are GOOD can't play it, it is known as inaccessible and useless. The point of these arrangements is to provide a way for people to easily play songs they love, not to give them some clusterfuck they can just look at.
Easily? Are you kidding?
And MAJORTIY of people. I know a handful of people that would love to try some of UGC's songs... on any instrument...
Yeah, It seems like your arrangements are more suited for an large ensemble. There's just too much going on.
Too much, huh?
Should I orchestrate all 31 of my arrangements for a philharmonic orchestra?
That would be interesting.
Well...maybe later...I'll have to think about it.
Wel, maybe not ALL 31. Some songs are meant for piano only ;)
Maybe something like Pokémon Red - Title theme, Wizpig Race, or SSBM Fountain of Dreams (since, of course it was meant for an orchestra)...
just a few that have some chords overcrowding, (kinda hard to read).
Well, if I do orchestrate them...I will not arrange music that was already written for an orchestra or has been orchestrated in a game before. Those pieces are piano reductions of the score, so essentailly I already did the inverse.
Actually, I think there is more use of these arrangements than just professionals playing them. Okay, they may be unplayable for 99% of any target group, but there are some good ideas in there. When I feel I've mastered the "standard version" of an arangement, I go to the Virtouso versions to see how it can be improved. For example, elaborating a few chords, add a few notes here and there, etc. I'm years away from being able to play any of these songs, but I can fetch small parts of it and put into the easier versions that are already on site. And for the most part, it sounds better.
Can't wait for DDD, by the way!
I'd really like it if you start Impact Site; Night.
It really sounds good, and with your virtuoso skills, it could sound as good!
I like these, but maestro you are absolutely insane. Out of your mind. On the Dark Side of the Moon.
That being said, I do think these could make an update, despite how most people will never even attempt to try them. I think they're just over-ambitious and complex to the point where playing them is only an idea. You do have an interesting musical mind, however, and an arranger like you who makes ridiculously hard but interesting virtuoso-version songs is absolutely essential to any site like this(but preferably stay with us ;) ).
You can submit them to the update thread, I'll talk to nintendude and see what he thinks.
when I first saw the "Lost Woods" from Legend of Zelda, my brain imploded and I was like >:( I am going to beat the heck out of that piece! Then I went to all the other virtuosos and this is what my emotions were...
>:( >:(
>:( >:(
>:( >:(
>:( >:( >:( >:(
>:( >:(
>:( >:(
>:( >:( >:(
>:( >:( >:( >:(
>:( >:(
>:( >:(
I AM GOING TO DIE! :(
Quote from: Nakah on April 19, 2010, 03:06:57 PMI think they're just over-ambitious and complex to the point where playing them is only an idea.
Which will only frustrate people and not make them want to use NSM. He could easily make his arrangements more accessible and still sound nice, but he just tries to make them as obnoxiously full of whatever as possible.
Well, I do have some arrangements on site...just wait for me to say they are ready for the others. Oh, and I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.
And raymondbl...wha? Is that good or bad?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 19, 2010, 04:38:19 PMAnd raymondbl...wha? Is that good or bad?
well, kind of both. well, I have this thing in my head that tells me "don't give up until you have tried it." so basically, whenever I see something, I have to play it completely right. the problem is, I've seen almost all of your virtuosos, so I'm gonna have to learn all of them and play them perfectly or else I will shoot myself in the head. :( so, thanks to you, I have several months of work. but I'm going to play them perfect. all of them. the only problem is that it's not a technically perfect score, you have all those additives...
Quote from: raymondbl on April 19, 2010, 05:17:18 PMso, thanks to you, I have several years of work. but I'm going to play them horribly. all of them, yep!
...Fixed.
These songs are actually, really, not that hard under any circumstances. You just need at least... 6-10 years of piano under your belt to play these.
Kefka, stop overexaggerating. I came to this site because of the virtuoso songs ;)
And I know plenty of people, once again, that would love to play these songs. And some have succeeded too!
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on April 19, 2010, 04:23:10 PMWhich will only frustrate people and not make them want to use NSM. He could easily make his arrangements more accessible and still sound nice, but he just tries to make them as obnoxiously full of whatever as possible.
Disagreeing with me? Seeya in three days.
On a serious note, sure they may seem frustrating, but their difficulty provides at least a wider spectrum of sheet intensity for people to play or even just look at. There are non-virtuoso arrangements for pretty much all of these songs that he has, so why not allow some extremely difficult arrangements to exist. Obviously not all of them will be fit to go up, so it comes down to what is actually playable and what sounds good or at least accurate to the song.
Heed those words when arranging in the future maestro, don't over-do it, know thy limits and know what sounds nice.
I know the limits of the piano and humans and I keep them in mind when arranging.
Quote from: universe-X on April 19, 2010, 06:03:18 PMThese songs are actually, really, not that hard under any circumstances. You just need at least... 6-10 years of piano under your belt to play these.
That might get you good enough to hit all the notes, but there's no way it's sounding good unless you're a prodigy. 15-20 years, after significant study at a conservatory seems a more reasonable estimate.
Quote from: Seeker on April 19, 2010, 07:17:49 PMThat might get you good enough to hit all the notes, but there's no way it's sounding good unless you're a prodigy. 15-20 years, after significant study at a conservatory seems a more reasonable estimate.
i.e. Grygory Cziffra, who inspired me to "virtuize" video game music.
:P I was able to successfully play through Fountain of Dreams... after 3 days, half an hour practice each day. Random tempos :P With enough practice (a year or 2) I'd play it perfectly. And I'm only a "concert" (intermediate) pianist...
That's one way it could happen. Here's a more likely scenario:
After months of practice, you are frustrated to find yourself hardly more able to perform than when you started. Without knowing the subtle ways every part of you must interact with the keyboard, you have an extreme excess of tension and wasted energy. As a result, halfway through the first right hand sixteenth note section, your right arm starts to lose feeling. Then it becomes sore. Then, if you're not smart enough to stop, searing pain. Stiffness. It takes all of your willpower to push through to the end. And then the same thing happens with the left hand arpeggios.
You may have all the notes, but all your control will be gone. It will be an ordered collection of notes, not music. It will be nothing but a cascade of sound, tinged with excruciating pain, obvious to everyone who hears it. If you push through, you will either give up in despair when you find it deteriorating, or you will continue until you seriously damage your hands.
I apologize if I sound overly haughty, but I have put far too much into my musical studies to allow it to be trivialized like this.
(I was going to say I was concerned for your safety as well, but you seem intelligent enough to know when to stop...)
Quote from: Seeker on April 19, 2010, 08:26:20 PMAfter months of practice, you are frustrated to find yourself hardly more able to perform than when you started. Without knowing the subtle ways every part of you must interact with the keyboard, you have an extreme excess of tension and wasted energy. As a result, halfway through the first right hand sixteenth note section, your right arm starts to lose feeling. Then it becomes sore. Then, if you're not smart enough to stop, searing pain. Stiffness. It takes all of your willpower to push through to the end. And then the same thing happens with the left hand arpeggios.
This was meant for the weak. Honestly, the 16th note sections are not as hard as first interpreted. For the left hand maybe, but the scales/"glissandos" make it that much easier. When you're able to point out these little things that make playing the song easier... it's easier.
EDIT: I also wouldn't suggest this for any beginners however. A few months - a year or 4 of practice on piano should make it easier (I play cello and have played piano for 3 years when UGC's virtuoso stuff popped out, so that helped tons). Plus, this stuff really helped me with my left hand's stiffness, scales, chords, different scales, fingering techniques, and syncopation, so I honestly don't see a real problem. :D
It's not that they're so amplified that makes me like them, it's that they're so interesting to study theoretically. I'm sure most people won't ever attempt to play these, but they will still listen through it and observe the art that was incorporated into it. If maestro put in all the work to make the arrangement, his work of art deserves to be viewed even if not played. I know that I listened to a lot of his arrangements just to see how they panned out and what they included, and if they were toned down a notch or so they'd be very playable and less "cluttery." The added notes are interesting to see even when not necessary, and it makes the sheets and interesting work of art.
The problem is that they all sound the same.
A person's style is his own. No arguing that.
I do agree a tad on that part. It seems every song follows the same pattern. Maestro you shouldn't be discouraged by that, you should work on toning your arrangements to virtuoso perfection. You have the most room than any other arranger on this site to be creative.
Once again, I say that these songs might be extremely hard to play, but they do indeed have their uses.
First and foremost, they can give you ideas. When you are at a level you feel you have mastered the regular arrangements, you are good enough to know what you can play and what you can't. Then have a look at the Virtouso arrangements, and find parts that you might be able to play. Is the melody really easy to play in the regular sheet? (i.e. the second half of Pokémon R/B/Y-Elite Four) Go see what UGC has done to that part, and see if you can take something from there. You don't have to play all the 4-finger chords; if it sounds good enough with two fingers, go for that. Are there any extra notes hidden within the original melody? Are they playable? Then play them.
If you're good enough, you can even do the reverse. Start with the Virtouso arrangement, and filter out what you can't play. At this point, you're skilled enough to find something decent-sounding to substitute it with. If your only problem is "it's too hard", do something about it. The regular sheets on site give an easy way to play a song, the Virtouso arrangements represent the other side of the spectrum. And it's not like those are the only two options. Finding your spot between these is only a matter of creativity.
Second, these arrangements provide a goal. "One day..." are the only two keywords needed to describe how I feel about some of the Virtouso arrangements.
I think we should have them on site. They might be practically unplayable, but the point isn't necessarily to play them. It's to see how it can be done.
Quote from: Seeker on April 19, 2010, 07:17:49 PMThat might get you good enough to hit all the notes, but there's no way it's sounding good unless you're a prodigy. 15-20 years, after significant study at a conservatory seems a more reasonable estimate.
sounding good? what would you call sounding good? Because in my opinion, I've completely aced two of them already. my own dynamics... feeling... tempo... definitely notes... clearness.... I've been playing 2 years. just started learning with a conservatory teacher. started at studio.
Quote from: raymondbl on April 20, 2010, 01:33:50 PMmy own dynamics... feeling... tempo... definitely notes... clearness....
Basically what I meant. If you can really play it well, congratulations on being exceptionally gifted. Of course, due to the rarity of such people, I'm just going to make the (slightly) unfair assumption that you overestimate your skill until you provide us with some recording, if you are inclined to do so. I hope you are not offended by this and that you understand the logic leading to that assumption. If my assumption turns out to be wrong, I will happily admit that.
Edit: After reading through this again, I see that I have acted irrationally here, and for that I apologize. I doubt I will able to contribute rationally to this discussion for several days.
I dunno. I think some of these are definately very playable. I brought the Underwater Waltz in to my piano teacher, and he sight read through it pretty successfully. He's definately not the best player, but he can sight read fairly well. I'm sure if he had the time (or the desire to play VG music), he could definately work it up. These aren't impossible, and I enjoy listening to them more than anything. If you were to make mp3's of them, I would be overjoyed (not saying that you have to).
All I want is to see someone try to play at least one song. Just see, is that so much to ask for? :(
If he were to make them both impressive and playable like this guy (http://fantasyreborn.com), then it would be reasonable. But no, he has no regard for anything but the sound it makes through his computer. Not the physical technique, playability, anything.
Prime example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-phi1b175Qg
Quote from: universe-X on April 20, 2010, 03:33:06 PMAll I want is to see someone try to play at least one song. Just see, is that so much to ask for? :(
no. i got it...posting to youtube...
^Well, I saw some of your other videos... oh my God :o You are already so much better than me! Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement was just insane... and one month's practice!? 8) I have found a challenge ;D :P Now, I'm also really looking forward to your playing ;)
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on April 20, 2010, 04:38:15 PMBut no, he has no regard for anything but the sound it makes through his computer. Not the physical technique, playability, anything.
And you know this... how? He does pay attention to the physicality of the pieces and has done intense studying on what to consider, the limits of the human hands. The playablity is from a virtuoso's point of view (so-to-speak), and I know you've had some experience with such songs, but...
There are multiple arrangements that are physically impossible. I don't remember exact ones, but I've pointed them out in previous posts.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on January 31, 2010, 01:50:23 PMdahans is right about 48-53. There are chords that are unplayable. Otherwise it's just stressing.
Stuff like this. It was intended to be glissed, I've done it, it's perfectly possible.
Then put a mark there telling you to do so. Also the fact that the chord progression is too stressing. Technically it's playable, but not realistically.
Well, it's not like you have to really keep your fingers on the chord :-\
Mark telling me to do so: glissando/arpeggio?
Don't be silly, Glissando of course.
Ok...the difference between a viruoso and a normal performer: interpretation.
That's what it all come down to. I know the limits of humans, quite well, and I have come nowhere near that...yet.
Kekfka...I've seen you play...eh.
My arrangements may sound the same, who cares? Beethoven sounds like Beethoven; Liszt like Liszt. Every composer uses the same tricks in their compositions, it is not uncommon.
Also, competent players don't need to be told to gliss a large chord.
P.S. I can't play my own arrangements...
:P What I've seen is that Virtuoso:Kaizo. And you know when it's Kaizo when "Not even the creator of the game can play it!"
It really would help you Maestro if you didn't act like such a prick about everything. Talking like your arrangements are for a different kind of performer, that it's "far too advanced" for normal people, this does nothing but make you look like an asshole.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on April 21, 2010, 08:30:19 PMTalking like your arrangements are for a different kind of performer, that it's "far too advanced" for normal people, this does nothing but make you look like an asshole.
...virtuoso...hmmm...
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on April 21, 2010, 08:30:19 PMIt really would help you Maestro if you didn't act like such a prick about everything. Talking like your arrangements are for a different kind of performer, that it's "far too advanced" for normal people, this does nothing but make you look like an asshole.
Well, could an
average performer play this just as well as a person with 10s of years of practice?
And talking the way you do does nothing but make you look like an asshole. But hey, everyone loves hypocrisy...
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
I mean, er, simmer down y'all.
Ok...I'll tone down my arrangements...
Oh no, I beg you not to.
He was talking to me :P
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 21, 2010, 09:02:17 PMOk...I'll tone down my arrangements...
Definitely not what I meant. :P
Nice arrangment, but please put the links in the upload thread!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 21, 2010, 07:51:21 PMP.S. I can't play my own arrangements...
Although, this could be a problem. I always figured that interpretation started with its creator.
Quote from: Brassman388 on April 21, 2010, 10:11:59 PMAlthough, this could be a problem. I always figured that interpretation started with its creator.
I can think up all kinds of neat songs in my head but I have no way to get them down because I suck at arranging by ear. Perhaps Maestro is able to think in such a way AND get his ideas on paper? Well, virtual paper.
Quote from: Nintendude73 on April 21, 2010, 10:54:23 PMI can think up all kinds of neat songs in my head but I have no way to get them down because I suck at arranging by ear. Perhaps Maestro is able to think in such a way AND get his ideas on paper? Well, virtual paper.
Yes.
The thing is, there's really no point in arranging a sheet of a song that essentially nobody can play. If you want to just make a sweet audio track, go ahead. There are plenty of practically impossible Touhou piano songs. However, creating sheets that people will simply not be able to play as said before, defeats the purpose. Make multiple arrangements with edited bits if you must (like this (http://mafioness.hp.infoseek.co.jp/TH-Music_main.htm)), but it just isn't right to have all these sheets that nobody can play.
And before some asshole goes "hurrrr i can play", I mean relatively.
Well, if it's a hobby, then leave it alone, right? Only a few got on site, anyway.
It's not like he HAS to do what I suggest. It's just my opinion.
You do realize you contradicted yourself, right?
Nowhere did I say you had to do what I said. That would be silly. Strongly suggested, maybe. Demanded, no.
And being a hypocrite is not news to me ::)
Maestro, can you tell me what your easiest arrangement is? easiest one on the site? or post me a link to it? and then give me the hardest one (in your opinion).
P.S. my camera's at school, I can probably film in a week.
If I remember correctly the Final Bowser was relatively easy. And awesome. You seriously can't mess up that song.
I'd say that the SMB Underwater or as Kefkatic pointed out, Bowser's Road (SM64) are the two easiest. Then possibly Deku Palace.
I'd go to SMW Athletic, Delfino Plaza or perhaps Final Bowser for the hardest one.
That being said, you don't have to play the arrangements in their entirety. If you find something impossible to play, omit it or replace it with something better-sounding. If you're good enough to consider trying one of these arrangements, you're good enough to replace the impossible parts.
Or, if you want to kill yourself, play this: http://www.gamemusicthemes.com/pdfs/Super_Mario_64_-_Princess_Secret_Slide.pdf (You have to download, can't view from the page)
Oops. then I picked a hard one - Lost Woods. It's the first virtuoso I ever saw, and I'm a huge fan of Zelda, so I chose that one. lol - no turning back now, though... :(
P.S. for that link that Kefka gave, you need to go to the base site, go to 64, find super mario, then princess secret slide. that one's pretty easy, actually.
Except the entire left hand at the tempo you're supposed to play at is impossible unless you have fingers of steel.
Well now that I've finished with my Recital; I can continue with arranging. In progress: DKC2-Haunted Chase
Good to hear.
Just a question: What is DCK2? At first, I guessed Donkey Kong Country 2, but the letters dont match...
You're right, he just wrote it wrong.
It is finished, I just need to clean up the sheets, expect it within 3 hours.
Yay!
[SNES] Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest-"Haunted Chase"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ywlutz2yuzn/Donkey%20Kong%20Country%202-Diddy's%20Quest%20-%20Haunted%20Chase.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3thmwzewc5n/Donkey%20Kong%20Country%202-Diddy's%20Quest%20-%20Haunted%20Chase.mid)
And Lo! It is great to be back.
This arrangement is difficult only on its demanding tempo and technique, not as many flourishments that I normally cram into my arrangements. You can thank Kefka.
Sorry for this extended delay, but with school finally over....Let the arrangements RECOMMENCE!
Up Next: Paper Mario: Angry Bowser
Wow. Mediafire is a real bitch at the moment. I look forward to hearing it...
EDIT: It worked now. And I must say, each time I hear something new, it just impresses me more and more! Keep it up!
Your version of Pokemon Red Title Theme sounds empty at times, mainly when the main theme starts.
Maybe add a complete bass line to enrich the overall effect.
[N64] Super mario 64-"The Princess' Secret Slide"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?mmmiedjmhnm) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?zctnzaz1dga)
Here it is. I mnow you were expecting something from Paper Mario...but I didn't realize I wasn't going to do this in my queue.
Up next: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time-"Song of Storms"
Genius! This one's gonna be a pain for the fingers... Looking forward to Song of Storms! :D
EDIT: Silly goose, using Garritan all the time.
EDIT 2: Fixed. :D
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 17, 2010, 08:33:57 PM[N64] Super mario 64-"The Princess' Secret Slide"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?mmmiedjmhnm) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?zctnzaz1dga)
i think u just made Gori Fater crap himself...
Quote from: olimar12345 on June 19, 2010, 02:35:38 PMi think u just made Gori Fater crap himself...
Hahaha. Oh, that made my day, thank you.
I'm actually gonna try to play it... it's probably a few times more difficult than anything I've played before but screw that.
Some of your links are broken. I tried to get Brinstar, both the MUS and Mid, but neither worked.
Wow, really? I checked over that song only a few hours ago...
EDIT: Still works now.
Mediafire's being dick-ish lately. Chances are they may run an update in the near future.
http://www.mediafire.com/?nzkjtezfzmn
Something special for you all.
Yeaaa it works fine now. My bad.
Epicness.
i luv ur surprises!
[N64] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time-"Windmill Hut-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?ngw1yivzn1e) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?nn4rlnmfm5m)
One of my more poetic arrangements.
Next up: Sonic the Hedgehog-Greenhill Zone
Hmmm, not one of your better arrangements, imo. The ending seemed like it was a race to the end, and could've ended on a lighter note. Also, I think there's a foul note in one of the chords on 29.
I tried a different approach, I may end up removing the arrangement and replacing it with something else. There wasn't much to work with in the original that I actually liked. I couldn't give it my normal treatment because it would change the timbre of the song.
Well, don't remove it... :P
Alright, I'm not happy with this arrangement so I'm going to remove and replace it.
With "Sloprano" from Conker's bad Fur Day at the request of a friend.
^I can see "replace", but why remove? At least, keep it up for another week so I can see it after repairing my PC. I really like the Song of Storms, so I'd like to hear it before you take it down.
Well, after doing some thinking it may not go to the way side...you'll see later.
way better than dekudude's.
Several things (besides you being an arrogant prick, as I'm pretty sure we're all in agreement there.)
What's up with the random remixes during your songs? We're supposed to be offering arrangements here, not remixes. I can see it being fine throwing in a few extra notes (hey, sometimes it works really nicely.) But you, I can't count how many bars of random notes you have (and I only know a quarter of the songs you offer.) In one song, you have pages of extra notes, which while they match the melody, are not apart of the original songs.
What's with you and harmonies? Parts of songs don't even sound like the originals you've harmonized them so much. It makes me wonder how legit your arrangements are, are you using midis. Have you even heard the original songs? If you want to show off your remixing skill, post them in the correct section (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?board=16.0). Lets take this a bit further. Not only do some of your songs not sound like the original, they're full of wrong notes, because of these harmonies. Stop trying to make them sound better, you're making them sound way worse.
If you want examples, I'll start throwing them out. I can only judge several songs of your selections, and there's way too much for me to frown upon. The songs are impossible, to, well, nearly every single person that comes here. You said you'd tone them down.. I've seen nothing to suggest that. You've arranged 2 songs since you've said this - I've seen no indication of change. This site is one for amateurs - not professionals. You're not arranging for the greatest person in the world - he doesn't give a flying fuck about your arrangements. It's like giving a vibrator to a person with Parkinson's disease. Or giving a laptop to a cat. How about giving dirt to someone in Africa. If you didn't get the hint, nobody in these examples want or need what you have to offer. So why are you doing it?
So, all in all, your arrangements are shit, clean and simple (hah, catch the pun?) Do you know why I say this? Let's take an example. You're at a musical exam. You mess up several bars of your song, and because of this, you get a low mark. Even though the rest of the song was perfect, you're graded by "the weakest link." Much similar, I just keep hearing wrong notes in nearly all the songs that I've listened too, and it just makes them sound absolute shit to me. I enjoy listening to peoples arrangements often because they..Oh no...Sound like what I'm supposed to be listening to. Yours don't. Fix them.
I await the reply saying how I suck at arranging/playing, to justify your actions, as that was your reply earlier in this thread. But whatever. All I want is your songs to sound as they're supposed to, and for people to be able to play them. There's a difference between difficult and impossible for the people at this website, and you've clearly crossed that line. So fix your songs...And your pride, while you're at it.
My pride isn't hurt, let me assure you. All I can say is if you don't like my music, don't listen to it.
I arrange these songs in a way I want. Whether they are accepted to this site or not is irrelevent. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to scrutinize my work, most people won't study what they don't like.
If you are looking for true arrangements, simply skip over my thread, nobody's forcing you to listen to my arrangements. I'm going to keep arranging these songs in my style, so I suggest you look the other way.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 03, 2010, 03:12:57 PMI'm going to keep arranging these songs in my style, so I suggest you look the other way.
*Remixing.
Sorry for the double post, it's just to grab your attention.
Since you seem to know about the errors in your other songs (but refuse to fix? Cry.) I decided to check out the ones you're submitting. I suggest you come back to the chat and we can talk about it. I lose count of the errors on the second bar, sorry.
"The American Federation of Musicians defines arranging as "the art of preparing and adapting an already written composition for presentation in other than its original form. An arrangement may include reharmonization, paraphrasing, and/or development of a composition, so that it fully represents the melodic, harmonic, and rhythmic structure" (Corozine 2002, p. 3). Orchestration differs in that it is only adapting music for an orchestra or musical ensemble while arranging "involves adding compositional techniques, such as new thematic material for introductions, transitions, or modulations, and endings...Arranging is the art of giving an existing melody musical variety" (ibid)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrangement
You're SUPPOST to change up the song when you do an arrangement. That's the ENTIRE POINT.
Sorry for just jumping in, but that just really bugged me. -_-
QuoteThe American Federation of Musicians defines arranging as "the art of preparing and adapting an already written composition for presentation in other than its original form."
Meaning instead of having electronic/orchestrated version, we have piano.
im gonna haffta agree with masterpenguin, we are writing songs out for people to play on the piano, we arent really i site for remixes...
(i do like your work tho! ;))
QuoteAn arrangement may include reharmonization, paraphrasing, and/or development of a composition, so that it fully represents the melodic, harmonic, and rhythmic structure.
QuoteArranging "involves adding compositional techniques, such as new thematic material for introductions, transitions, or modulations, and endings.
Also from wiki:
QuoteA remix is an alternative version of a song, made from an original version. This term is also used for any alterations of media other than song (film, literature etc.).
Meaning a remix is something made literally with the original song. I don't think it's even possible to do a remix using Finale products.
I hope I'm not going to start an argument. These are definitions. o_o Your remarks were just so... uninformed. It bothered me.
And if the song is already on the site, what's wrong with creating a different, more elaborate version? Sure, most people can't play them, but people can look at these arrangements and say "oh, that's cool, I should add that in to the version of the piece I can currently play" or for less practical things like just enjoying listening to them.
This is why teachers don't let students use wikipedia.
Quote from: Dude on July 03, 2010, 07:20:19 PMThis is why teachers don't let students use wikipedia.
Why? Everything I just posted is 100% true. Like I said, they're just basic definitions. I only had to type it into wikipedia and BAM, there it was. It was that easy. I have no idea why you posted that. >_>
Where is a goddamn facepalm picture when I need one? :(
EDIT: Here we go: (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi184.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx120%2FRenditionMission%2Fblogs%2Fpicard-fp-ascii.gif&hash=46188f0468402a9b2153e8d6a11c7f48dfacdb68)
I really don't have much better to do, so here's some non-wiki definitions. xD
QuoteArrangement - An adaptation of a composition for other instruments or voices or for another style of performance.
-http://www.thefreedictionary.com/arrangement
QuoteIn popular music an arrangement is a setting of a piece of music, which may have been composed by the arranger or by someone else. It may add details omitted by the composer, or it may replace those originally given and be merely based on the original work.
-http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Arrangement
QuoteRemix - To recombine (audio tracks or channels from a recording) to produce a new or modified audio recording: remixed a popular ballad and turned it into a dance hit.
-http://www.answers.com/topic/remix
And here you go. (http://www.google.ca/images?q=facepalm&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi)
I guess this is going to take awhile to reply.
Quote from: Tangy on July 03, 2010, 07:15:56 PMQuoteA remix is an alternative version of a song, made from an original version. This term is also used for any alterations of media other than song (film, literature etc.).
Meaning a remix is something made literally with the original song. I don't think it's even possible to do a remix using Finale products.
First off, bad definition leads to bad understanding. When you think of a remix, it does
not require the original song to be present, it can simply contain a similar melody, beats, etc. Much like the definition says, however, a remix is when the original song is used. A quick example of this is a sped up song, one such as a chipmunk song. (Check out your favorite artist, and put chipmunk beside their name, if you want an example.) So when I'm referring to remix, it's more of "not original", meaning it's not trying to reproduce the original song as closely as possible.
So, now, back to arrangement. Let's define this better. For the context used on this site, it's going to be "to recreate the song on another instrument (piano), as close to the original as possible." Now obviously this isn't possible for most songs, as songs usually have more then 2 instruments, that our hands can recreate! (What if it has drums? Oh noes!) That's why I say "as close to the original", because we can't make it identical, but it's good enough to recognize the song for exactly what it is.
Now that that's out of the way, let's hit back at your remix comment.
Quote from: Tangy on July 03, 2010, 07:15:56 PMMeaning a remix is something made literally with the original song. I don't think it's even possible to do a remix using Finale products.
As I said above, a remix doesn't have to contain the original song. So it IS possible to remix a song using finale - much like it's possible to remix a song using any standard midi program. You're recreating the melody, in whatever style you want, making it sound different. Here's plenty of examples (http://www.ocremix.org). Only a few of them contain actual samples from the original song, the rest are recreated through whatever synthesizer they used.
Quote from: Tangy on July 03, 2010, 07:15:56 PMI hope I'm not going to start an argument. These are definitions. o_o Your remarks were just so... uninformed. It bothered me.
We were working on different definitions, which I've shown you how I was always told it, and never referred to wikipedia to "confirm" it.
Quick edit: You defined it as I explained it.
QuoteArrangement - An adaptation of a composition for other instruments or voices or for another style of performance.
Anywho, moving on.
Quote from: Tangy on July 03, 2010, 07:15:56 PMAnd if the song is already on the site, what's wrong with creating a different, more elaborate version? Sure, most people can't play them, but people can look at these arrangements and say "oh, that's cool, I should add that in to the version of the piece I can currently play" or for less practical things like just enjoying listening to them.
As I said in my post, this section is for submitting your
arrangements. We've defined this nicely above. Arrangements. Not remixes. Arrangements. One more time. Not remixes. If he wants to submit remixes, he can feel free all he wants in the correct section (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?board=16.0). I don't mind this at all - you can do as you please there. Hell, you can make a song out of one note and call it a remix, and I cba. But here, this section, while we're at it, the main part of this site is dedicated to arrangements. Not remixes.
We really shouldn't go offtopic in this guys thread though, stop hijacking it! Should chat about this either on the chat, or another topic. Either ways fine.
Really, I don't think there's any problems with these arrangements. Sure, there's some notes wrong, maybe. Then again, so do plenty of songs on site. I'm not sure if that's the "remixed" part. These songs are meant for virtuosos. People who have spent decades playing piano or have mastered both hands at piano. I say let these songs go on site. Some variety won't hurt and NSM now offers something that most sites don't ;)
I'm siding with MP on this one.
Also, "we" should stop hijacking this topic xS Really?
You're telling this topic to move, there's plenty large-ass posts on it, but whatever :P
Your definition of arranging is half right. Arranging can be the same as transcribing (which is what you're describing), but it can also be different than transcribing, in that it can be changed. You can add new melodies, new harmonies, new notes, new keys, etc. Regardless of what a remix is, what he's doing is arranging. If the definitions intertwine, then fine. I can't find the definition of a remix that you just described anywhere, but it doesn't matter. o_o
QuoteA remix is an alternate mix of a song different from the original version
Source (http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Remix).
As you have said many times, if you don't care if these get uploaded to the site, why post them here?
That's all I'm commenting on. Leaving the opinions from both sides out of it.
Hey MaestroUGC, I maked one Virtuoso Arrangement... maybe you will look at it?
http://www.mediafire.com/?vmjqordqmn1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?vmjqordqmn1)
This is complete foolishness. These ARRANGEMENTS are actually making it on site. As much as I hate this analogy, lets think of the American Idol try-outs. One of the things they say more often than not is "You took that song and made it your own, and I like that!" What does that mean? It means that you took a song and gave it YOUR OWN FLAIR! That is all Maestro is doing: taking a song, laying down the actually melody, and then working himself up from that melody to give it his own flair. If a person hears a song and perfectly recreates it, we say "Wow! He has a damned good ear!" On the flip side, if a person hears the song, recreates it, and then takes it even farther, we say "Wow! He's a damned good ARRANGER!"
I've stood by Maestro from square one. There is no way in Hell I'm going to be able to nail some of these tunes. However, like someone said previously, that doesn't mean we cant use them. In a lot of situations where I was doing things for Band, I used his songs more like templates. Way back when (and before my comp crashed) someone in my section wanted a Tetris theme done for the Sax that he could play in his spare time. I took the A and B theme, threw them together, and it was pretty good. Then I started thinking about Maestro's Tetris theme (that I'm not dextrous enough to play on piano) and took some of the runs out of his theme, and put them into my sax arrangement. I added another alto and tenor part, and all of a sudden, the piece was sounding much better, not overly difficult through-and-through, but still had that challenging area in it to make it both nostaligic and FUN! He was overjoyed. I see no problem with his arrangements, nor having them on the Submission forum. It's been on here for months, and you are the first admin basically telling him to trash everything because it is garbage. Not only should this be a place where pianists of ANY skill level could come to find music to play that challenges them, but also a place where we can embrace however a member chooses to arrange music. This is supposed to be a family-like environment where can all operate in harmony, not some horrible Dictatorship that dictates what you can write and what you can't. These are Arrangements, and some of them have made it on site, so I think if he wants to submit them, he was no reason why he can't if they are arrangements of video game music.
Quote from: Bloop on July 05, 2010, 09:55:49 AMHey MaestroUGC, I maked one Virtuoso Arrangement... maybe you will look at it?
http://www.mediafire.com/?vmjqordqmn1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?vmjqordqmn1)
I like this arrangement, but I want to point out a couple of things:
1) When making chords, try not to go beyond a ninth, maybe a tenth but use it sparingly.
2) The arpeggios in the left hand are good, but the initial chords make them a bit excessive.
3) I love the glissandos in the right hand, though because of the structure of the arrangement, it might be better to put in grace notes. That way the player doesn't drag his finger down and still have to play the note an octave above.
Its a nice arrangement, but I still think there is much more you can do with it, keep trying.
Also, thank you Gooch.
Quote from: Gooch on July 05, 2010, 11:28:48 AMIt's been on here for months, and you are the first admin basically telling him to trash everything because it is garbage.
We should set a few things straight. I'm not an Admin - never have been, never will. I have absolutely no power over this site, relating to what music is accepted, denied, put aside, anything along those lines. So what I say doesn't and shouldn't reflect the other staffs view. Now, let's focus on that garbage comment. Me & Maestro had talked over the chat for quite some time (or at least I was talking, and him ignoring me. I have no clue.) And we went through several of his songs, picking out errors. With one song having way over 50 mistakes. Well, okay, that's fine and dandy.. Let's submit songs with huge gaping errors in them. Yes. You support adding songs with errors? Hypocrite much. An example I've seen before. A guy arranged a song in the wrong key. CRAP. Guess what happened to him? He redid the song, in the correct key. What's Maestro going to do? Nothing.
Quote from: Gooch on July 05, 2010, 11:28:48 AMThis is complete foolishness. These ARRANGEMENTS are actually making it on site.
You know, it's been awhile since I've seen someone be this ignorant. I have shown, and explained the definition of
ARRANGEMENTS 9 posts back. I suggest you re-read my post if you're still in doubt.
Quote from: Gooch on July 05, 2010, 11:28:48 AMThis is complete foolishness. These ARRANGEMENTS are actually making it on site. As much as I hate this analogy, lets think of the American Idol try-outs. One of the things they say more often than not is "You took that song and made it your own, and I like that!" What does that mean? It means that you took a song and gave it YOUR OWN FLAIR! That is all Maestro is doing: taking a song, laying down the actually melody, and then working himself up from that melody to give it his own flair. If a person hears a song and perfectly recreates it, we say "Wow! He has a damned good ear!" On the flip side, if a person hears the song, recreates it, and then takes it even farther, we say "Wow! He's a damned good ARRANGER!"
You see, your goal and the sites goals are different, and that is why you are wrong. You see, as I said in my first critique, I said I was fine with "adding your own flair." Other members on this site do this all the time - and generally it works out great, good for them. But wait. This is where the difference comes in with Maestro. He didn't just change the song a bit, or anything along that line. He did a complete remix - pages of it. So how many of you came to this site thinking "I want a remix of XY song! This site obviously has it!" No. This site is dedicated to making ARRANGEMENTS (remember I told you to read its DEFINITION?), not remixes. How about I give you a concrete example? Why don't we google Nintendo Sheet Music Remix (http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&q=nintendo+sheet+music+remix&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=ff6f35003432d731). Where's NSM? I have no clue - nowhere near the front, I can tell you that. How about when you google Nintendo Sheet Music (http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&q=nintendo+sheet+music&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=ff6f35003432d731). Holy crap, there it is! Oh noes.
Quote from: Gooch on July 05, 2010, 11:28:48 AMThis is supposed to be a family-like environment where can all operate in harmony, not some horrible Dictatorship that dictates what you can write and what you can't.
This is a dictatorship. It is run by people who decide if you music is crap, or if it isn't. If it's crap, it gets rejected, if it's not, it's accepted. You as a community don't decide if it's good or not, or else every song you've arranged would already be on the website. But yes, it is a family-like environment. Families are fine in a dictatorship.
Quote from: Gooch on July 05, 2010, 11:28:48 AMso I think if he wants to submit them, he was no reason why he can't if they are arrangements of video game music.
I've given you plenty reasons. Remember the dictatorship.
Questions?
Yeah, I have a question. You chose a song that wasn't really all that good in the first place. Can you try choosing a song like Tetris or Super Mario Bros. Overworld and tell me what's wrong with those (primarily in terms of sound)? You need to be open to more styles instead of simple arrangements.
Also, Maestro doesn't care if these songs get on NSM. He puts them here because they're a different, more advanced version of a current song and are made to his liking and he looks for opinions. That is all.
Quote from: MasterPenguin on July 05, 2010, 02:41:55 PMQuestions?
Not really a question as much as a remark. Googling "nintendo sheet music" doesn't yield this website at all. The old domain, now spammed with ads does appear though. It's the first hit if I search for "ninsheetmusic". How is this possible? Are the tags set properly?
Guess this is pretty offtopic and you probably aren't the right person to ask this, but that's what came to my mind :p
Quote from: universe-X on July 05, 2010, 03:16:40 PMYeah, I have a question. You chose a song that wasn't really all that good in the first place. Can you try choosing a song like Tetris or Super Mario Bros. Overworld and tell me what's wrong with those (primarily in terms of sound)? You need to be open to more styles instead of simple arrangements.
I've got nothing much against them. They're accepted, so that says enough. ::)
Quote from: universe-X on July 05, 2010, 03:16:40 PMYou need to be open to more styles instead of simple arrangements.
I'm quite open to styles, but not remixes.
Quote from: Offkey on July 05, 2010, 03:17:50 PMNot really a question as much as a remark. Googling "nintendo sheet music" doesn't yield this website at all. The old domain, now spammed with ads does appear though. It's the first hit if I search for "ninsheetmusic". How is this possible? Are the tags set properly
Ask Jamaha. I'm the wrong person, as you said.
Quote from: universe-X on July 05, 2010, 03:16:40 PMAlso, Maestro doesn't care if these songs get on NSM. He puts them here because they're a different, more advanced version of a current song and are made to his liking and he looks for opinions. That is all.
Yes, because the topic name "Virtuoso Submissions" totally doesn't mean "Virtuoso Submissions."
Isn't the point of NSM to provide video game sheet music as close to the original as possible without shitty add-ons? Or am I missing something here?
This truly is foolishness. I used to come here because it was fun, and people would be receptive to others and me. I know I suck as an arranger, but it was still a fun hobby to me, and people used to give me constructive criticism. Somewhere along the line, that dissolved. Maestro, my support stays with you and your arrangements, but I'm done posting here. I'll float around to see whats going on as far as music, but as far as people, this is about as friendly a place as Hell, and that's not how it used to be.
You're just butthurt cuz I'm right. :)
Quote from: Dude on July 05, 2010, 06:49:47 PMIsn't the point of NSM to provide video game sheet music as close to the original as possible without shitty add-ons?
Completely. I don't see any other
remixes on site. I see originals,
arranged for piano.
Quote from: HugoMeister on July 05, 2010, 06:58:14 PMCompletely. I don't see any other remixes on site. I see originals, arranged for piano.
Cuz no one wants to try -_-
If you give it a chance, it's pretty fun. You could appreciate the song more.
Quote from: universe-X on July 05, 2010, 07:02:21 PMCuz no one wants to try -_-
No, because we don't/shouldn't allow it. This site was made for
originals, not
remixes.
Get it through your thick skulls...
Once we fix up all the bad "real" arrangements, then I'll see.
Quote from: Dude on July 05, 2010, 07:09:35 PMThis site was made for originals, not remixes.
Oh, here's an idea, butthurt people.
Get your own site and submit that type of shit there. If we don't accept it, don't attempt to submit it!
But the site did accept it... and he doesn't submit it much now-a-days... bossy.
Quote from: universe-X on July 05, 2010, 07:11:08 PMOnce we fix up all the bad "real" arrangements, then I'll see.
If I had a leak in my boat, I would plug it first.
Quote from: Gooch on July 05, 2010, 06:53:08 PMThis truly is foolishness. I used to come here because it was fun, and people would be receptive to others and me. I know I suck as an arranger, but it was still a fun hobby to me, and people used to give me constructive criticism.
I told him what I found wrong about his songs and
exactly how to fix it (I told him which bars had errors in them) How exactly is this not constructive criticism? ???
Love the new name.
Quote from: HugoMeister on July 05, 2010, 07:17:07 PMIf I had a leak in my boat, I would plug it first.
the replacements need to be our priority right nao, the remixes should wait.
I don't wanna take any sides here... But I think that maybe it's a good idea for ninsheetmusic to accept remixes~
A business can't grow without entrepreneurship :o
I mean, this site is really active! (compared to other video game music websites...) and if remixes (and maybe arrangements for ensembles and such too!) were accepted, nsm would become something biiiiiiig :D
Implementing new ideas would help the database grow, but if that doesn't happen... then so be it. :-[
Maybe accepting remixes would help, but there isn't space on the site. It's set up for the originals.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 05, 2010, 02:00:47 PMI like this arrangement, but I want to point out a couple of things:
1) When making chords, try not to go beyond a ninth, maybe a tenth but use it sparingly.
2) The arpeggios in the left hand are good, but the initial chords make them a bit excessive.
3) I love the glissandos in the right hand, though because of the structure of the arrangement, it might be better to put in grace notes. That way the player doesn't drag his finger down and still have to play the note an octave above.
Its a nice arrangement, but I still think there is much more you can do with it, keep trying.
Also, thank you Gooch.
Euhm, can you place grace notes in finale notepad 2008?
Sure thing; do you want them to be chromatic passes, or perfect scales?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 05, 2010, 11:21:32 PMSure thing; do you want them to be chromatic passes, or perfect scales?
what's the difference?
Quote from: MasterPenguin on July 03, 2010, 08:05:57 PMSource (http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Remix).
That contradicts everything you said about remixes, just fyi. I wasn't gonna say anything, but you kept using the word remix incorrectly. :3
And we have medleys on this site... Those are different from original arrangements as well. @_@
I'm with Gooch here. Just to throw that in.
Also, in what way is the current setting harming the site? All the virtousized songs are already submitted as normal difficult ones. We do provide accurate transcriptions, even if there are some versions who aren't. We have originals, and some songs with a little "extra" in them. I don't see the problem, ESPECIALLY when most of the songs aren't even hosted on this site. As long as they stay in this topic, they do absolutely no harm. And even if UGC wants them to go on site, they have to pass the mods first. If the mods don't want to upload the virtouso songs, so be it. It's their decision.
The only nitpick I can see is putting the songs (arrangements, remixes, whatever, they're not submitted anyway) in the Submission forum without submitting them. But the way I see it, that's not really a problem. Honestly, it's a single topic.
On the topic of remixes, I contacted a bunch of the staff, and here's what they think about having remixes on the site.
Jamaha - No
Nintendude73 - No
Harvest - No
MasterPenguin - No
HugoMeister - No
Nakah - No
So currently, are remixes allowed? No. So if you want to make a remix, just put it in the correct (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?board=16.0) section, where we can all enjoy it still, and we can all critique it still.
Not technically all will be able to critique it. Plus, creativity board is such a low-profile board. No one's arrangements really get critiques anymore (at least not mine anyway :P)
Well, then moving this could bring more attention there.
To me it's a big waste of time. There's already songs on site, etc. Now that's like saying we should allow ensembles and such because that's what's in the creativity corner.
I don't think new people should have any say in this debate.
Sorry guys. You just haven't been here long enough to know what is going on.
Quote from: Dude on July 06, 2010, 02:55:44 PMI don't think new people should have any say in this debate.
Sorry guys. You just haven't been here long enough to know what is going on.
What's NEW for you?
Bloop and tikito are too new to debate on this imo.
oh!
How many arrangments of Maestro are on the actual site? 6? That's not a lot...
Bloop's not in it, smarty :P he's looking for opinions on his piece.
I didn't notice. Also, don't be a dick.
T__T
Just because I'm new, doesn't mean I haven't been reading posts. I've been reading stuff for 4 years thank you.
So, who do you remember from a number of years ago then?
Quote from: master_gamer38 on July 06, 2010, 04:16:21 PMSo, who do you remember from a number of years ago then?
THE_GRIMACE! :'(
.... That was probably the best way that tikito could prove he's been here for a while. XD Thanks for ruining that chance MP XD
I named one person. Do you realize how many awesome people there have been? I can rant on for several pages about people.
Yeah, but the_grimace is probably the best one, because he does have a major story.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fitsfuriousbalancing.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2007%2F11%2Fmoderator-cat.jpg&hash=ead682eae36a10519bcb099dcd87d31bad0cd994)
And he's definitely not the best example.
When I think about the old nsm. He's definitely the person that sticks out most in my head :P
[N64] Conquer's Bad Fur Day-"The Great Mighty Poo-Sloprano's Aria"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?jv44zzyezj2yikm) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?2nimzw2anayvjlg)
Let the s*** pour in!
A shame the lyrics aren't included, but they would just be in the way anyway. And ruin whatever family friendly image we might want to preserve.
Great to listen to, at least. And if I ever will play this song, I'll use the current arrangement on the site, and borrow some elements from this one. Nice work.
[NES] Super Mario Bros. 3-"Airship Theme"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?1wt1mkcp93y6l8m) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?4rwf0br3lh2odwr)
This is my loudest arrangement yet, but I just had to give this war-influenced piece the "Mars" treatment.
Also for somthin totally unrelated:
Untitled Rag (http://www.mediafire.com/?8ccgjuxd5ohr5af)
This is my first foray into modern music, comentary is welcome.
Airship is cool. It certainly looks playable, but I'm not sure if the piano will stay in one piece during the entire song. As there is plenty of space left on the last page, you could write something along the lines of "Be kind, retune the piano after playing" there.
Also, measures 98-100 and 131-138 could need some 8va.
Did you say that you were going to make a Pikmin arrangement?
I'm to lazy to see which songs you were going to arrange, with all the past arguments and what-not.
I'm working on Pikmin as we speak...er, type.
And with that, I bring to you a day in the life of Captain Olimar.
[GCN] Pikmin 2-"Awakening Wood"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?sr2veb8wk57jlds) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?3i3zx32e2xpunc3)
This is the last deviation from my announced arrangements, next up is: Super Mario 64-Dire Dire Docks
i did not like it. that song was a march and u took it WAY too slow. try playing a sousa march at 40 bpm-same feeling.
Oh crap, the tempo change didn't save.
Thry this one: http://www.mediafire.com/?sr2veb8wk57jlds
alright. much better ;D
Definitely better...
I cant wait to hear the Dire Dire Docks... one of my more favorite levels from SM64!
I thought the beginning would just stay at a slow tempo :p
I can't wait for Dire Dire Docks. Such a relaxing song.
[N64] Super Mario 64-"Dire Dire Docks"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?y8s26vude33qo4h) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?4d8eaq81vhldcy9)
Yes, it is done, arranged for mood, not technique. Enjoy my adaptation of a beloved theme.
Next Up: Map Theme - Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Dire, Dire Docks is a special song in many ways. Most notably here, it sounds rubbish in Finale now matter how you format and notate it. Yours is, sadly, no exception, though I think it would sound wonderful if played on a real-life piano. The song has this special feel, and I felt that you did it justice. Well done. The arrangement also certainly seems playable. I hope to hear it recorded one day.
Looking forward to your next!
Yeah, U-X can tell you how I struggled trying to do this piece justice. Finale cannot do justice to any piece notated within it, that's just the nature of electronic music.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 12, 2010, 03:09:18 PMYeah, U-X can tell you how I struggled trying to do this piece justice. Finale cannot do justice to any piece notated within it, that's just the nature of electronic music.
Like the little shout-out ;D
Anyways, yeah, I don't see too much of a way to Cziffra-fy the song much more than this. Maybe some power chords? Nah...
It is good (I saw the video) and I definitely felt the emotion, even if Finale is a "robot". (I hear things in my own way :P)
While it is good, I didn't like it. Probably because I'd play it slightly faster and my keyboard adds a beat (I play it at 135 bpm, while this was 120). In other words, I prefer fast-paced music :P
Nice job though!
I honestly think it's useless and unnecessary. The original song was perfect, and your arrangement doesn't add anything notable to it. All you do is as usual, spam chords and just add a few bonus notes every once in a while. Also any piano arrangement misses the awesome drum beats at the later part of the song, and can therefore never do true justice to the song.
Just my opinion of course.
Damn you Mediafire...
off-topic: OMG!!! I wasn't here for two years or something! How did I dare to forget this site?!
topic: I want to compliment you for the BK/BT suite, it's awesome! Maybe this was mentioned before, but movement four seems to be missing, in the folder there are I, II, III, V and VI. Maybe that was just a mistake with the roman numbers or something? If not, could you please upload the fourth movement, too. I'm looking forward to hear it! Thank you! ;D
Wo! Yoshi Island Map Theme...
another great one, Maestro!
[SNES] Super mario World 2: Yoshi's Island-"Map Theme"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?ellrworeowsqzot) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?t5n392m5srv0jw2)
This is a great party theme, easily one of Kondo's most triumphant works and ingenious works.
Up next: Pikmin Medley.
WONDERFUL! A perfect arrangement of this little tune, didn't know it actually before, but I listened to the original and to your arrangement and I'm just amazed! I'm really looking forward to a pikmin medley, I feel it's gotta be awesome! :D
ur making a pikmin medley?? weird, cus i am making a pikmin 2 medley! (not for tha site, tho)
I can't wait for the Pikmin melody! There are not much arrangements for the series. I hope it's a medley for both games :o
well, if updates would hurry up i have 2 pikmin sings completed and 4 in tha works! lol.
These seem hard to play. Alone that is... Theses seem to be arranged in such a way that two mid and even seemingly inexperienced pianists can play these, almost all of these I bet, as duets. There are no conflicting or overlapping notes. Middle C is the boundary for each person (in many cases anyway) If I can find someone to do it with, or even better find 2 experienced pianists on campus, I"ll see if they will be able to do it. It will sound amazing for sure :)
Weren't you going to make a Pikmin medley? D:
I'm still working on it. I trying to balance my schedule between arranging, my own music, and school. Plus finals are coming up. Though it is over halfway done, so look foward to it by...early December.
i've only finished movement 1 of my pikmin 2 medley :[
I'm glad you're still working on it. I just thought you quit arranging it.
It seems when some one starts arranging a song I want, they quit in the middle of it :p
Stop whining and deal with it. :| Arranging is not easy and if you're that upset do it yourself.
I'm not upset. I didn't realize that I sounded whiny. Sorry.
You weren't whiny... and you didn't complain. At all. :|
I see him as whiny because he posted a topic called "No one ever wants to arrange my request".
Before that topic, only one person arranged a request for me, and two people totally forgot about a song I wanted :\
But yeah, many people arranged many requests, and I'm grateful. That topic is kind of dead, so we should forget about it.
Slow- Just because he's whiny doesn't give you an excuse to be bitchy. Just sayin'
Quote from: twgplayer1 on November 25, 2010, 09:26:50 PMSlow- Just because he's whiny doesn't give you an excuse to be bitchy. Just sayin'
After that, this forum is for discussing music, if you'd please. Argue somewhere else, thank you.
Sorry guys. :-\ bad mood.
No, I haven't quit; life just got in the way. However, I can now focus more on arranging until after the new year.
Also, Pikmin has some pretty ambient music, so translating that to piano is a long process that requires a great ammount of attention to detail.
He probably switched to 2011.
I think we should ALL switch to 2011. then we can keep up with each other, do we all have 10 dollars?
im gonna upgrade on thursday-itll be $35 for printmusic.
I just got Finale Notepad '11 (WINK) for those interested.
The Yoshi's Island Map link isn't working for me, it just continues displaying: "Processing download request"
The Sloprano's Opera sounds great. ^_^ So many memories...*sheds tear*
So...about Pikmin.
I simply don't want to work on it anymore. I do, however, short arrangements of the following tracks:
Impact Site
Forest of Hope
Night Comes
End of Day Report
Map Screen
What I'm going to do is expand on these and publish them on here as a shorter medley. This will take some additional time, but since I have a solid ground for each of these I can finish it by Monday.
Once I finish this, I will work on DK64 for release on Christmas.
Again, I apologize for this unwanted delay.
MaestroUGC
P.S. I will redo many of my arrangments over time, most likely somtime this coming summer.
These blew my mind. Especially Windmill Hut and SMW Ending Theme. I have a soft spot for those songs. Airship Theme rocked my socks, though I doubt it's humanly possible to pay a fortissississimo. Have you ever thought of doing Song of Healing?
That's ok. Any kinds of Pikmin arrangements are great by me. And a DK64 arrangement also sounds really awesome! Don't worry about the delay; I'm just glad to hear it's being done. Thanks!
[GCN] Pikmin-"Medley"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?01ab6e8e0dzs4l2) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?56ufmtlpxmjzcs2) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?rx6njj6rl15doo2)
Well...here it is.
Up next:
Donkey Kong 64-Medley
My Finals are finished after tomorrow, so that means I have an entire month to finish it. Since I have finished all of my non-arrangment projects, I have no other distractions.
can i offer some constructive criticism?
-measures 158-160 are kind of... empty-you could probably do away with one or two.
-measure 190 has a trill with octaves-this seems kinda impossible :-\
-the "G" in measures 6 and 8 are written to be played with both hands... i think just one would be fine :)
-at 92 when the melody i the map theme, the bass doesnt repeat the "F" again before the "C" in the original song (maybe u already knew this? idk)
-the red notes at 177and 207 are impossible to play with the other stuff goin on...
-the ending. i didnt really feel like you were done with the song at that point(it actually cought me by supprise) -but u did seem like you were tired of working on it so watevrr
overall fantastic job!
1) I wanted the piano to decay without the performer choosing to continue at his leisure. Artistic preference.
2) Trill the top note, I still want the bottom note to be played.
3) The right hand clef is 8va, meaning no overlap.
4) I chose to do that to give it more bounce.
5) They can be played, I've played them, it just requires playing the notes in the red line with both hands while maintaining their repective parts. For example, at m. 177 the right hand plays the grace note before it plays the octave Gs with the bass Ab below it. It stays supended until the second octave is hit in the right hand, which it will then play out the rest of the triplet.
6) Yes, I just wanted to end it. I may go back and revise it...but that will most likely never happen.
Thanks for the criticism and compliments.
Could it be that the MUS is broken, when I click on play on Finale 2011, Vista says: Finale 2011 doesn't work anymore. ???
1) Ah
2) Ah
3) Ah (over looked that one :P)
4) ok i see
5) ok, i just meat it was impossible to sustain a low Ab1 and "G"s 3 4 and 5.
6) ok well it would be a great piece when completed-if u get some free time u should definatly take advantage of it ;)
Quote from: Korados on December 08, 2010, 07:54:21 AMCould it be that the MUS is broken, when I click on play on Finale 2011, Vista says: Finale 2011 doesn't work anymore. ???
I had the same problem, but it plays ok in Finale 2010.
i didnt have that problem.. and i have 2010... so 2011 must be effed up or somthn...
The Pikmin medley made me feel like crying. Good job. I would have enjoyed a boss battle or a collected part in there, though.
Yeah...I would've too...
I am glad it brought out such a strong emotional response, that means I achieved what I wanted.
Tried it with Finale 2010 and it works fine! Wonderful job, but I'd like to see the names of the songs in the songs, I did'nt remember all of them, because I played it the last time a couple of years ago.
No Ai No Uta?
I know it doesn't appear in the games or anything, but still... It's the song that the most reminds me of Pikmin (mainly because it's the only Pikmin song I've heard).
The medley sounds great! Even when you're pressed for time, you still make it sound awesome. I just wish I could play it :p
Just wanted to say that some links are broken. The "Fountain of Dreams" and the one from Mario RPG, can´t remember it´s name.
Hope I could play at least one of your arrangements, too! :'(
Well, it's been a while, hasn't it? As you may have noticed, I haven't been doing much arranging lately. Simply put, I've been busy with my own music and school. However, as I begin the final push towards finals, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Now, one reason I haven't even started the DK6 Medley is that I don't have time to sit down and figure out some of the little nuances and themes that I want to present. More often than naught, every time I sit down at the piano, I either rehearse a piece, or try to work out one of my own melodies. However, I have been piecing together how I want to present the music from this game, so all that remains is really a matter of dictation. The semester for me ends the first week of May, and I will begin to work on the Medley immediately following my last test. Until then, enjoy the work my peers are producing. Keep it up you guys, you are keeping NSM thriving.
Good to see you´re back, Maestro! :)
Donkey Kong 64 music? Sounds cool to me.
By the way, your Elite Four and Brinstar arrangements are really good! But they certainly are virtuoso pieces.
Well d***. I feel like I'm letting you and myself down. No more of this stalling. I just need to get the groove back, the only way to do that is to just get into it. You'll have to excuse me, for I've been distracting myself with my music. It seems I create a new melody of motif every week, and that dominates my mind. I do have the set list for the Medley, I'm taking a "As-You-Hear-It" approach; meaning the themes presented will appear as you come accros them in-game. Instead of doing a straight transcription, as with the BK Suite, I'm going to apply my melodic transformation approach, as heard with my Pikmin 2 arrangement. At the moment it seems like it'll be all-in-one, but I may change that as I get into it.
I feel like I need to prove to you all that I am not just giving you empty words. As a sing of good faith, here is a preview of what to expect:
C'mon, click it! (http://www.mediafire.com/?hal9y8o4jezg9d8)
This is the opening cutscene from Donkey Kong 64. There are a couple of minor errors, but I will correct them in time. Thank you for your patience and patronage.
That was just epic, wonderful, Mr. Kirkhope would be proud of you! I once wrote him an e-mail about that site and how we all arrange his music, but he never replied... Nah, you can't have everything, right?
wow! your arrangments are amazing! fun to play yet challenging! Keep up the good work I can't wait to try the DK medley when its finished, that game has some of my favorite music.
Status update:
40% Completed.
I know this is taking a while, but I'm in the midst of other things right now. Most of my time is either spent at work or working with my own piano quintet. However, I am currently re-arranging the Tetris A Theme to update both it's notation (which was horrendous) and do a couple of new things with it. You can expect that here soon, to enjoy in the meantime.
Excellent...
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_ThOmyW_cEXY%2FTUxt9PzA_LI%2FAAAAAAAAAVs%2FkZowB4G0cM4%2Fs1600%2Fmr-burns-picture.jpg&hash=56cb0b126da652ff0584abb1367e90c99c8d11df)
And with that:
[NES] Tetris-"A Theme"-Version 2-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?42mh7a69g6p0wqu) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?q64j970ts7pr66m) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?22aysj1ro1kjvnn)
I started updating the original arrangement a couple months ago, but there were a couple of new things I wanted to do with it. It was never meant to be completely re-done, just simply updated to fit my current style. I will not be doing this for every arrangement, only the ones that I can do something new with.
Wow...that was simply amazing! Just listened to your Tetris "A Theme" - by golly, it was full of wondrous Russian grandeur! I especially liked the part with those fast sixteenth note runs on the right hand while the left hand pounded out the melody.
Status update: 50%
Part one is finished. No you can't have it. Yes, I realize this post is simply to tease you. This past week my creative energies have been kicked into high gear with me completing numerous other projects simultaneously. I'm going to try and keep this energy going to try and finish DK64 in a timely manner. I'm also going to be revising my Legend of Zelda - Overworld arrangement as well, and touch up of few of my early 10.
How is ANY human be able to play most layer 2 notes?
Quote from: Bloop on July 06, 2011, 03:38:34 AMHow is ANY human be able to play most layer 2 notes?
Maybe some kind of freaking chinese/japanese virtuoso pianist, who knows... :P
Quote from: WarioMan98 on July 06, 2011, 03:47:15 AMMaybe some kind of freaking chinese/japanese virtuoso pianist, who knows... :P
Or maybe he's the reincarnation of Franz Liszt? ;D
Ah...It's nearly done. Just a couple of themes laft to arrange and DK64 will be complete.
And it will be with DK64 that I will put in my two weeks notice. I'm...done. I'm just done. NSM has bee great to me these past couple of years, helping to shape my style in both improvisation and identity as a transcriber of music, both video game and classical. But as time passes and I grow older, I find myself drifting away from this hobby of transcription. This is not a reflection of the community here, but simply a result of my maturity in music. This project was simply a way for me to describe my love for video game music and relay the nostalgia I feel for these themes. Now that I find myslef playing video games less, I don't feel the need to arrange music I don't know or never knew.
On that note, let me clear: I'm not done arranging video game music. There are still a couple of pieces I want to do before I close this chapter in my life. I also plan to revise my older arrangements, as you have seen, as well as orchestrate a few nostalgic themes. I will most likely always dabble in something video game related down the line, and if you wish to see what I do, and have access to my last 10 arrangements, follow me on YouTube here: http://www.youtube.com/user/UGC001
Once I finish DK64 and post it here, that will be the last arrangement you will see from me on this site. I will leave the links to my arrangements up for two weeks, after which I will remove the links and close the thread. I will also have the arrangements on the site removed. I will try to make a website in which the sheets would be available for download, but with school starting back up soon I can't guarantee that.
I thank you for your patronage and support, and wish NSM much success in the future.
MaestroUGC
You'll always have my support Maestro! I'm subscribing to you right away ;)
Hey, did you ever consider doing a virtuoso arrangement of something from the Professor Layton games? I don't know how well that would work, but something like Professor Layton's Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ak_il8E8E) or St. Mystere (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYOEx5DpVlY&feature=related)? I don't know if they could be made into good virtuoso arrangements, though. Just a question. :p
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 09, 2011, 08:36:18 AMHey, did you ever consider doing a virtuoso arrangement of something from the Professor Layton games? I don't know how well that would work, but something like Professor Layton's Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ak_il8E8E) or St. Mystere (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYOEx5DpVlY&feature=related)? I don't know if they could be made into good virtuoso arrangements, though. Just a question. :p
Ehhhh... Did you read Maestros posting? That's really ignorant of you to post a request now!
*facedesk*
Wow. I'm stupid. Good luck in your future ventures Maestro/
Who will do the virtuoso stuff around here now?
Who will arrange almost impossible songs?
Who will put in normal songs a piece of pure epicness?
...
Sniff... Farewell, then, Maestro. :'(
Good luck out there, too.
NSM will never forget you! ;)
As of right now, I'm debating whether or not to leave my existing arrangements on the site. As you know I'm in the process of revising my older arrangements. I think I'm going to do this, I'm going to revise as many pieces that I feel can be made better (or at least do some new things), and clean up the sheets that desperately need it out of my 40 arrangements. Since nearly everything in batches 3 and 4 are up to my personal standard, those will most likely be untouched, save for few arrangments. I will leave my thread up, but will no longer be actively participating on this site. I will update my thread with each new revision and arrangement as they come, but don't expect a steady flow.
As you have noticed, I haven't been updating as often I used to two years ago. This is for two reasons: 1) School. It has taken a large amount of my time, and as a composition student I have to actively write pieces that my teachers task me with. Which means less time to spend on my own compositions (priority) and even less time on my arrangements (hobby). 2) I am now in a performing piano quintet, and am currently in the process of arranging a great multitude of pieces for us to play; as well as sacrificing even more time for rehearsal.
To sum things up; I'm leaving in presence, staying in contribution. I will only visit this site to update my thread, and as such will only see replies and messages then. I will leave contact information at the appropriate time if you wish to contact me.
P.S. I only have two themes left on DK64, expect it at least by the end of next week. Maybe sooner if I'm feeling frosty...
P.P.S. I would also like to start looking for a successor...
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 11, 2011, 08:34:45 PMP.P.S. I would also like to start looking for a successor...
By than you mean...?
Quote from: fingerz on August 11, 2011, 10:49:13 PMBy than you mean...?
Perhaps a successor for virtuoso arrangements on the site?
Thanks for the virtuoso arrangements Maestro! You always knew how to put an interesting spin on familiar pieces. Good luck out there!
Quote from: Clanker37 on August 12, 2011, 02:51:08 AMPerhaps a successor for virtuoso arrangements on the site?
If so, a talented arranged could do the job. *cough*
DekuTrombonist! *cough!*
Anyways, I think that everyone who feels very, and I say VERY, inspired could do a virtuoso. Not always the same arranger. Just saying.
Quote from: WarioMan98 on August 13, 2011, 10:15:30 AMIf so, a talented arranged could do the job. *cough* DekuTrombonist! *cough!*
Anyways, I think that everyone who feels very, and I say VERY, inspired could do a virtuoso. Not always the same arranger. Just saying.
Agreed
I'm looking not for someone who is a talented arranger, though by nature they will need to be; I want someone who can look at the music in a new way, and be able to present it as such. They don't have to follow my virtuoso style, but can adopt a new style for themselves. It also needs to be voluntary.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 14, 2011, 12:04:24 PMI'm looking not for someone who is a talented arranger, though by nature they will need to be; I want someone who can look at the music in a new way, and be able to present it as such. They don't have to follow my virtuoso style, but can adopt a new style for themselves. It also needs to be voluntary.
Ah, I understand now. To arrange music is not to simply copy, but to add your own touch to it and make it something that can stir emotions. :)
I felt very emotional after listening to your redo of Tetris Type A, MaestroUGC. That was pure brilliance! It's by far my favourite song and you have done such a wonderful job at making it more than an arrangement! Thank you so much! :D
My Dear Patrons,
The Medley is complete, you can expect it later this week. The reason for this delay in release because of another project of mine that I want to finish before posting DK64. It isn't a revision, but something else I had been wanting to do and I am nearly done with it.
That is all for now.
MaestroUGC
And know, the moment you may have been waiting for...
[N64] Donkey Kong 64-"Medley"-MaestroUGC
-Part I - MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?9bobmkc15fi8ciu) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?nmmiukrfmrr7q84) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?dh207no7vbds2mx)
If you want to listen to it with a better sound font than Finale's generic piano, try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRTXFt5LYEs
Part II is coming tomorrow, enjoy.
I like it :D! Sounds good to me! I listened to it on youtube and I must say it sounded really real... where did you get this "generic piano"?
I like how the Donkey Kong Medley sounds thus far. Brings back a ton of memories. Reminded me how most of the soundtrack was one tune too haha. As with most of your stuff, it has overlaps and unplayable portions. But I guess we've gotten used to that.
The only real thing that irked me was the whole Jungle Japes section. The section should either be in all jazz "swinging" eighths, quarter - eighth in 12/8, or quarter triplet - eighth triplet. The offset and indecision of choosing one of these methods really made the section awkward tempo wise.
And now, I bring you Part II. Enjoy.
[N64] Donkey Kong 64-"Medley"-MaestroUGC
-Part II MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?xdw1fcybi67sdb8) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?sbrk7t460af3kyt) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?axedthalh52241x)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WOEU4_JT8U
HELL YEAH.
Sorry if I bother, but... Is there a part IV of the Banjo-Kazooie Suite? In the .rar are: I, II, III, V and VI. Missing IV? ???
Movements III and IV are on the same file, as are movements VI and VII.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 29, 2011, 02:35:57 PMMovements III and IV are on the same file, as are movements VI and VII.
Oh! Thanks! :)
Awsome work, as always, BTW.
Are you ready for it?
[N64]Donkey Kong 64-"Medley"-MaestroUGC
-Part III MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?n98mwls7b907wq7) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?d1kzryme9yf9u7h) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?t54turoc3ohtj11)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqITpifPEeo
The last part will be uploaded sometime after monday, but it will be worth the wait.
Oh, there where 4 parts...
Here's the final part of my Donkey Kong 64 Medley.
[N64]Donkey Kong 64-"Medley"-MaestroUGC
-Part IV MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?c93c8nk4ir1m6v1) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?4fkd5mao6n30w66) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?hc835tj8ege37fg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvtP_v76b4c
And with that, I bring the list of my Final Ten Arrangements:
[GB]Kirby's Dreamland-"Green Greens"
[N64]LoZ: Ocarina of Time-"Windmill Hut" (redux)
[Wii]Super Paper Mario-"Champion of Destruction"
[GCN]Luigi's Mansion-"Boss Themes" (I'm not sure which ones I'm doing yet)
[SNES]DKC-"Jungle Groove"
[N64]Mario Kart 64-"Rainbow Road"
[N64]Super Mario 64-"Hazy Maze Cave"
[N64]Mario Party-"Eternal Star"
[wii}Super Mario Galaxy-"Medley"(Good Egg, Gusty Garden, Toad Brigade, Battle Rock, Hell's Prominence, Space Junk; this list is not final)
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Legend of Zelda: Overworld Ver. II will be up soon.
Enjoy
Oh, I'm still looking for someone to take up my mantle when my time is done...
What about the core or the crust?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on September 13, 2011, 07:58:38 PMOh, I'm still looking for someone to take up my mantle when my time is done...
Do you mean virtuoso arrangements?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on September 13, 2011, 07:58:38 PMwhen my time is done...
That sounds like if you were going to die or stop arranging forever... That sentence always makes me sad, dunno why... :P
Quote from: WarioMan98 on September 14, 2011, 06:22:02 AMThat sounds like if you were going to die or stop arranging forever... That sentence always makes me sad, dunno why... :P
That was always the plan, I never intended for this to last forever, because if it did it would lose all meaning to me.
Ehhm... SMW Medley preview? (http://www.mediafire.com/?8g1pew5va3qyacw)
It looks very promising, though you might want to take a look at some of those chords. There were a couple of passing tones that didn't quite work. I llok foward to seeing how you progress.
Thanks! Which chords do you mean?
Sorry, I can't really analyze it presently. But take it from me, if you keep working at it, you'll begin to pick up on what I'm talking about.
Uh-huh. (http://www.mediafire.com/?7yp2auig9vyga1d)
I see you're making some nice progress. On the overworld section, the right hand has an intense workout going for it. The dual rhythms are very fun, but because they are so close to each other, it makes things a little straining. If I could suggest putting the second layer on the left hand and alter the original bass line to fit that new rhythm.
On an unrelated note, expect the Zelda Overworld-Ver. 2 to be up sometime tomorrow. I would've had it up sooner, but I've been swamped with a bunch of work.
And here it is.
[NES]The Legend of Zelda-"Overworld" Ver. 2-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?fg8y39db2wxk6pw) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?e4x6fs9a5v78183) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?rwrc3srmuzv75i7)
I wouldn't say this version is very different from the original, except for the small details and it was actually planned out. Conisder this "another flavor."
Green Greens coming soon.
I'm pretty sure the LoZ Overworld piece is in Bb Major with some simple mixtures from it's parallel minor. F Major always leads to a Bb Major chord. Normally that F Major chord is prepared by it's own dominant, C Major. Just makes sense for it to be in Bb major as all cadences in that case would end V-I.
Looks and sounds good though.
Yes, but because this piece is so modal, I always treated it as if it were B-flat mixolydian. It still works, and it cuts down on all of those extra flats.
I guess that works. But then some of the chords go unexplained. The bVII spelled in mixolydian never moves to I, as is typical in most mixolydian pieces. The lowered 7th is the only difference from the major mode, and this seventh is raised later in the piece. It cuts down on one flat most of the time, sure. But the key signature doesn't define the key (doesn't have to, but makes it easier on the performer).
It sounds modal because of those mixtures, giving tonal ambiguity. The features that establish Bb as tonic are its appearance as the first chord in the piece and the V-I relationship shown with the F Major chord to Bb Major. The key signature doesn't allow for that spelling to be spelled clearly.
Suppose it's up to you, but I've always looked at that piece as using mixtures.
Yeah, you're right. It was just easier for me to treat is as mixolydian. Honestly, I could care less about the nitpicking theory with my arrangements. This is just a fun excercise in variation for me, not homework.
Haha I guess that's one way of looking at it. And since you don't plan for these to be submitted to the site, it's fine. The theorist in me sees these things automatically most of the time. The requirements for a Composition Major at the University are 1 class away from being a Theory Major. I guess Theory and Comp go hand in hand.
Well naturally, besides, I think I'm one of the better arrangers when it comes to theory, given what I do. I'll go back and fix it tomorrow. I know the trials of a Comp student as well...there are just some rules I ignore because of the way my music is supposed to sound.
Speaking of music theory, let's try something new.
[GB]Kirby's Dream Land-"Green Greens"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?57463m95hnle86v) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?t41y1wts5kv8p6u) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?cs37md9x9mz7xfn)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilw0tdxkMP0
With my last ten arrangements, I'm going to take a new route with them and turn them into studies for piano. With Green Greens, we take a look at staccato and legato playing, with some arpegios in the left hand. I'm going to be using Chopin and Liszt as my guides inthese arrangements to keep the writing in check, and I'm going over the techniques myself.
I hope you enjoy this short number.
Super Mario Bros. 2 "Overworld" revision and Loz: Ocarina of Time "Windmill Hut" redux are up next.
Your Green greens has an incorrect series of chords. ...and quite frankly sounds mediocre because of it...
There are? Just goes to show you I shouldn't do these at two in the morning.
This will probably not be as useful as pumpy_heart's feedback, but I just wanted to say your Green Greens arrangement is plain awesome. I really like your personal spin on the piece, because it doesn't feel like you changed the song, more like added to it. Again, fantastic.
The chords starting from measure 7 should be this:
| I | I |ii V| I | I | I |viio 6 iii|vi I64|IV V| I|
umm...Maestro? You there? If so, read the post above. â†' â†' â†'
I read it.
Quality feedback in a timely fashion. Isn't this what you arrangers with threads cry for? Lol.
The chords do sound a bit off, but I do appreciate trying to turn these tunes into real piano pieces. I've always been curious as to how the wide variety of video game songs fits into the different classical genres and themes and all that stuff so seeing these re-imaginings is really cool to hear, if not play. (It would take years for me to get one piece down)
The theoretical analysis of the Zelda theme you had with Pumpy was actually quite interesting too, especially cause I actually understood some of it! Modes are fun.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on October 13, 2011, 08:51:58 PMQuality feedback in a timely fashion. Isn't this what you arrangers with threads cry for? Lol.
Yes, feedback is great. You presented me with the chord progression for the original, which had a few errors upon a couple of tests. I didn't transcribe the original, I paraphrased it. I altered that ii chord to make that measure a constant V, so when the motif repeats, it allows me to raise that G to a G#, making the new chord a III, which is the correct chord. I'll admit, I screwed up on that following vi chord, but it still resolved to the V. I liked the progression of the line, G-G#-A-G-F-G-C, and built around it. There's only two major things I altered, and one minor change that better fit my purposes. I wasn't looking at this piece through the blinders of theory, I was looking at this piece from the perspective of technique. I made a goal and I achieved it, and it works.
Yes, but your arranging a piano solo to sound like an existing song-the least you could do is play the correct changes for the head of the chart.
I was never happy with how my arrangement of the Windmill Hut from Ocarina of Time turned out, so I did it again.
[N64]The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time-"Windmill Hut"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?e92tge6f4gje6lf) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?8y1cun4nwqnl8wt) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?fr92nrwwzpj62fm)
This is a study on crossing hands, I hope you guys don't get too dizzy from playing this.
Still to come, Super Mario Bros. 2 "Overworld" revision and Super Paper Mario "Champion of Destruction"...or not. I'll get back to you on that last one.
Wow, the sheet looks beautiful! I can tell you spent a lot of time considering technique and playability for your interpretation of "Windmill Hut."
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi56.tinypic.com%2Fok98k2.png&hash=edea7795022b5a51acf6057690e57fab6a50a873)
What the hellity hell hell?
I saw it once during playback, but when it finished, it disappeared! :o
Try downloading the file again or open it again, I don't really know. :-\
That's just Finale acting up, it'll be fine on the PDF and when you print it. I have no idea why it does that, or how to fix it.
Your a mad man!
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg522.imageshack.us%2Fimg522%2F3453%2Funledzs.png&hash=af1c63db91441a0a0f2138a6169c562f4218cf33) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/522/unledzs.png/)
I know that, I had fun trying to get that technique down while writing this.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on October 19, 2011, 06:18:52 PMI was never happy with how my arrangement of the Windmill Hut from Ocarina of Time turned out, so I did it again.
[N64]The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time-"Windmill Hut"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?e92tge6f4gje6lf) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?8y1cun4nwqnl8wt) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?fr92nrwwzpj62fm)
This is a study on crossing hands, I hope you guys don't get too dizzy from playing this.
...You can play this, right? :P
Part of me wants to learn this just because of the challenge it poses...
Quite so! I'll try and learn this after my upcoming piano exam.
I'm getting an error report on Delfino Plaza...
What kind of error report?
It's an "invalid or deleted file". It's on the midi.
http://www.mediafire.com/?u9v9qsipbzpvmn4
Here you go.
It appears I've found myself in a rather difficult spot...I'm still looking for a piece to arrange to fill the hole that "Champion of Destruction" left. I thought I found one, but I can't quite do anything with it other than a direct transcription. Plus school has taken a great deal of my time, so I'm looking to do a small medley of the Super Mario Bros. 3 Map Themes, and rework them into a style much like Hamelin's "Triple Etude". Super Mario Bros. 2 has taken a back seat to everything else, as result, I've only finished 8 measures of it thus far (I had more, but I started over because I didn't like the way it was turning out.) I'll make sure to release hose two by the end of thanksgiving break, since my other major projects are completed.
In other news, while I did orchestrate the Tetris theme about I year ago, I listened to it again, and as such, I want to make a full concert work out of it: "Fantasy on Korobeiniki, For Piano and Orchestra". This will essentially be a theme and variations, with some additional thematic material as well. This has nothing to do with my paraphrases, but I thought it might share this news with all of you.
Excellent! I can't wait to see what you can do with that beloved theme! :)
[NES]DR. Mario-"Chill"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/file/hpqq8kabqqfq8jl/Dr.%20Mario-Chill.mus) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?eltmwhgdylvtpl2) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?o3xjdydaawyyie3)
YouTube (http://youtu.be/S50WLYTm3D8)
Yep, I did this instead. It's a study in heavily syncopated rhythms, dexterity for both hands (mainly left), and chromaticism.
Up Next: [SNES]Donkey Kong Country-"Jungle Groove/Island Swing"
Awesome arrangement! Always love the accuracy of these cool songs you choose. The SSBB version of this is great too.
And a revision:
[NES]Super Mario Bros. 2-"Overworld"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?5vtrrwrtthnhz98) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?44n21n9sjvvy9hk) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?k76a764b1xt5vc0)
YouTube (http://youtu.be/O2a0r4rTF0c)
The next revision will be Lost Woods, and man does it need it.
Wow, sounds really great. :D Makes me think if anybody is able to play these arrangements...
Oh, and the Fountain of Dreams link is broken.
Happy New Year everyone! Here is a piece I wrote to celebrate New Year's Eve tomorrow. I would've waited until tomorro to release this, but I doubt I'll be even near a computer tomorrow. This piece has influences from a few Russian Composers, bonus points if you can name them. I suggest you give the YouTube video a listen for a higher quality audio. Enjoy!
New Year's Festival Overture
MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?a2x53pqn25usg31)
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0fnG1e-hQ4&feature=youtu.be)
Here comes another one:
[SNES]Donkey Kong Country-"Jungle Groove"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?wkmsh35jfpzdbt6) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?g53wcp4v53r0rdo) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?l4igyd51i2aze6d)
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYpIx894dR8&feature=youtu.be)
This time I exlpored contrasting dotted eighth-sixteenth patterns against swung triplets to make it a study of polyrhythmic patterns with a bit of atonality. Enjoy.
Up Next: Luigi's Mansion-"Boolossus"
I hope you all have been studying up on your Legeti, hehehe.
Nice arrangement. The original is an excellent piece, but really relies on percussion to sound awesome, and this is a difficult thing to imitate on the piano. Still, I think you did a great job.
Yeah, the percussion really drove the original, so I did my best to at least preserve the rhythmic feel they gave until the more melodic portions took over.
*puts on iPod*
oh man, this is waaaaaay awesome. Someday I will play this. @.@ You really did a great job with this.
Quote from: starrgrl24 on January 07, 2012, 04:21:12 PMoh man, this is waaaaaay awesome. Someday I will play this. @.@ You really did a great job with this.
Absolutely true. Way to go. I absolutely love it. I am a bit jealous right now^^.
Fun listen ^.^
My computer had trouble keeping up with the arrangement. heheh
Well would you look at that. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-btTD5eMMKI&feature=relmfu)
In other news, Boolossus is giving me a really hard time. It's not with execution, its the transcription thats proving to be a hassle. I'm making progress, sure enough, but due to its...atonal and electronic nature, it makes pinpointing pitches a bit more difficult. I know exactly what I'm going to do with the piece, so once I can finalize what the damn thing is supposed to sound like it'll be out in a jiffy.
Oh, I'm going to release a video of me playing my Airship arrangement in the near future, look foward to that along with some VG Improvisation.
[N64] Mario Kart 64-"Rainbow Road"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?10kk0klw7za4ly6) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?cd15ubcsna16vun) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?n5tv71r6oh9b4uh)
YouTube (http://youtu.be/3-UCWM8enSI)
This is one of the most iconic tracks in the Mario Kart series, even though it might be the easiest. I've made of for that fact be turing the music into an etude for arpeggios over a sustained note in the right hand, over a left hand ostinato. Don't hurt yourself.
Wow... I can't imagine anyone being able to play that to be honest...
It's more about stamina than anything, so you just need to work with it slowly to get the muscle memory down then work it up to speed. Most of the work lies in the weaker fingers, which may be why it seems so daunting.
The speed of those arpeggios (if you will) astonishes me... I'll bet it takes slow practice.. :P
It does, trust me. Why do you think this took me a month and a half to complete?
... Wow.... A month and a half?... I'd have a really hard time working on one project for that long...
......
But it's great so good work! :P
I wanted to make sure those passages weren't too tasking.
Yeah. It's just right. Well done!
[GCN] Super Mario Sunshine-"Boss Battle"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?i37qnvka9cuhz70) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?w58akm55gieloue) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?saxq6sa17jjn0t4)
YouTube (http://youtu.be/BaXt_JGLJIQ)
Here comes another one, this time I did something a little...unorthodox. I arranged the Boss Battle theme from Super Mario Sunshine...
for the LEFT HAND ALONE.
Best of luck to you.
Totally considering this until I saw measures 54-59. IMPOSSIBLE.
*2 Minutes Ago*
DUDE OMG I'M LEFT-HANDED I'M TOTES DOING THIS!
*Now*
Um...i think my brain just exploded.
I know, I know. This is more a test of endurance, with a little hell thrown in, you can thank Ravel for the inspiration. They call them etudes for a reason.
This kind of defeats the whole purpose, but could you put this for two hands now? This beats the one on the site by over 9,000
In my normal style or straight?
Whatever's more convenient for you. How it is now, split into two hands, would be more than sufficient.
In that case, just take the top notes and jack them up an octave, or just add the octave on top of that, for open octaves, if you want.
[N64] Mario Party-"Eternal Star"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?yflb78h5shaj7xh) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?lfdh07a2ezgwpuo) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/?2ggk5219bafh84q)
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC9d9-7l-8&feature=youtu.be)
Oh boy, what have I done? Parallel thirds and octaves, rapid jumps, the works. And loud too. This is a workout for precision, dexterity for the 4-5 fingers, and speed. This is probably the hardest arrangement I've ever done, from a purely technical viewpoint.
Up next: SM64-"Hazy Maze Cave" Oh, what an arrangement it will be...
Sorry Maestro, but Rainbow Road is impossible to play. You'd have to take a video of yourself playing it in order for me to believe you.
What toubles you?
I thought I'd put my recent entry for the Arrangement Contest for people who wish to see it, it's also in the OP.
Mushroom Kingdom Folk Waltz-MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?nqwhnibcchenbow) YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn0AtNnHbJk&feature=relmfu)
Oh, no troubles! I just don't see how you can play it that fast. XD
Speed isn't so much of an issues as endurance is for those parts.
Hey maestro, can you tell me what you think of my Faster than All from Mario Party Virtuoso Arrangement?
http://www.mediafire.com/?eppakl9b2gp7cc3
Not bad, it reminds of alot of my earlier arrangements, with nothing but chords everywhere. There were some moments where the bass line didn't match the rest of the piece, is this your first time arranging?
Haha, I guess thats good? this isn't quite my first ever arrangememt, but it is the first one that i completed it and the way I wanted it to be. About the baseline, do you mean throughout the fast parts or the slow part?
The faster sections, the arpeggios in the left hand don't always match the chords established in the right. On the whole this is good, it just needs to be looked at a bit closer and polished.
Hmm...okay, I reviewed it several times, I can only really see that in one place It's on the fastest part at the end, I can't really see it anywhere else thought because the baseline is pretty much the same throughout, but here, see if it sounds better now.
http://www.mediafire.com/?myym6lt9a5g33yj
It's better, tomorrow I'll send you a measure-by-measure look at what you've done, and how you could do it better/cleaner and a look at errors.
I should tell you all that I'm down to my last three arrangements, and even though I am filled by both sadness and relief, those feelings are overcome by an overwhelming since of apathy. I don't know why, but whenever I sit down to begin crafting Hazy Maze Cave I can't bring myself to do to move past the first couple of measures. I already know what I want to do with it, I just can't sit down to piece it all together.
However, I find myself wanting to take on another project, and I want your input. I want to do an orchestration, but more than just that, a symphony. That's right, an entire, four movement symphony based upon some video game themes. I'm thinking either Mario (before Sunshine), Zelda (before Wind Waker), or Banjo-Kazooie. I would like your input as to what I should do, it can either be as broad as the franchise or as prcise as particular pieces you would like to see in it. Note: I won't get started on this until after May, when I've completed my own original symphony. I'd rather not work on two monumental pieces at once.
..Am I seeing family resemblance here? ;)
I doubt it.
Adventure of Link Symphony.
3 months is too long for an arrangement.
No, it's not done. I haven't even started, I've been far more distracted by this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mb7guzc9WQ&list=PL81398C6A59B2D194&feature=plpp_play_all) But now that it's finished, I can begin working on it.
On a related note, I will be heavily distracted by the NSMCO Project, so don't expect much of anything until the end of summer.
Surprise!
[NES]Super Mario Bros.-"Overworld"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?ayqygqh3g93idci) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?kkqtb823mt91nqc) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?39q40p5hq723b7e)
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CLtMpjGJ6c&feature=youtu.be)
Expect a steady stream of revisions over the rest of the summer...hopefully.
Amazing as always, Maestro. Great job!
Actually, that's very good work! :D
Surprise! Here's another revision, and this one is about 3 years overdue.
[NES]Super Mario Bros.-"Underwater"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?xizw0zni5f2i86s) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?bo243e0269r2ra4) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?i9wii1r39ieegw1)
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKS7bgLb4gc&feature=youtu.be)
This is a theme and 12 variations; yes, 12 variations. This is my longest stand-alone arrangement to date, and will probably remain so for quite some time. The breakdown of the variations is as follows:
I. - "Leaps"
II. - "Cascades"
III. - "Surprise"
IV. - "Lullaby"
V. - "Majestic"
VI. - "Minor"
VII. - "Canon"
VIII. - "Wrong Key"
IX. - "Celestial"
X. - "Trill"
XI. - "Ragtime"
XII. - "Chords"
I dare say this single arrangement has spurred my creativity. I've picked up an older VG Orchestration and have actually sat down to start on "Hazy Maze Cave". Enjoy.
Link goes to Overworld 2
Wow, I completely uploaded the wrongs files. One sec.
Fixed.
Wow!!! woo, bravo maestro! This is truly amazing, I love it, you've came a long way haven't you!
A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Am listening to again.
[NES] Super Mario Bros. 3-"Athletic"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?d9cfzzd6bs8wtb0) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?xeh8op089ounuks) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?e04cmaqudb78e7y)
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8qscNc3dY&feature=youtu.be)
Another revision, I figured this one needed some sprucing up. Plus I did nearly nothing with the piece the first time I arraged it. Enjoy!
Next Up: Super Mario Bros. - Underworld
My "Sequel" to Underwater.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on November 09, 2012, 08:36:09 PMNext Up: Super Mario Bros. - Underworld
My "Sequel" to Underwater.
So the Underground parts?
So what happens when you mix Death, Dante, and Deep Dungeons from Super Mario Bros.?
Well I'm not too sure myself, but here's a new arrangement!
[NES] Super mario Bros.-"Underworld"-MaestroUGC MUS (http://www.mediafire.com/?9df26avs25adr4u) MID (http://www.mediafire.com/?tuuj12184u9j1t9) PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?idu1rwush1n8dnc)
YouTube (http://youtu.be/X5q7b_1zkQs)
My "Less Successful Sequel" to "Underwater". This one has a greater focus on polymeters, atonality, and centers technique heavily around chromatics.
I'm going to be focusing on revisions for a while, but my next batch will include the following:
Metriod - "Brinstar", with a little Norfair for good measure
Super Mario World - "Castle"
Super Mario RPG - "Forest Maze"
Please note, this is biding time so I can work on my Super Mario Galaxy Medley and be able to develop that the way it deserves. Since it's going to be my penultimate arrangement, I figure it needs some pomp and circumstance to do it real justice.
Whats your last arrangement going to be?
It's secret, a surprise, something to remember me by.
Page 4? That just won't do.
Well, I'm back to arranging, and God how I missed it. I spent the better part of the night working on a revision, and man is it something else. I have to polish the sheet up I just wanted to say there is something coming. You haven't quite heard the last of Ol' Maestro, my friends.
Whoo! I'm back in action! Time to shoot some aliens. Go Metroid! Savior of the Universe.
[NES] Metroid-"Brinstar"-MaestroUGC ZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjl021fdwei3chh/Brinstar-Ver.%202.zip)
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxOVF1iGo64&feature=youtu.be)
Man, Metroid is one cool-ass Space Dude.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on May 07, 2013, 02:09:51 PMWhoo! I'm back in action! Time to shoot some aliens. Go Metroid! Savior of the Universe.
[NES] Metroid-"Brinstar"-MaestroUGC ZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjl021fdwei3chh/Brinstar-Ver.%202.zip)
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxOVF1iGo64&feature=youtu.be)
Man, Metroid is one cool-ass Space Dude.
AHHH! Well done Maestro! Well done! (it just doesn't feel right without the picture)
Thank you. What picture?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on May 07, 2013, 02:31:19 PMThank you. What picture?
Spoiler
Well, since you asked:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_md4a4bOj4D1qzne9ao1_500.gif&hash=77b9f72a748e44dbabaa68e4d9eca1b2c2f49e03)
Unbridled excitement and joy.
I like how you incorporated parts of the title theme into the Brinstar theme, especially in the section at 2:58 to 4:07.
Yeah, I had wanted to do something with the Title theme, but I just could never find a way to spin it.
Last night was just a massive aneurism that lead to something great.
Surely, you must be a god.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 07, 2013, 07:32:15 PMSurely, you must be a god.
Oh, you flatter me so.
But yes.
I look forward to the free time that summer brings. Expect more "in-the-style-of" type arrangements that have become my bread and butter lately.
Double post but I don't care.
I'm going to try and pump out these revisions fast and furious over the summer. So much so that I've already got another one ready to go.
Oh my God!!!!, Jesus Christ!!!!, these arrangements are scary!!!! :O
Wow, I'm impressed!
Thank you, I take pride in making these more than just arrangements of Nintendo tunes, but rather concert pieces fir for the stage.
Or at least something to show off with.
Yeaha I can definitely see that!!
god, your worse then bespinben
He doesn't get the "virtuoso" part of your arrangments.
I think I remember one of Bespin's sheets, where he had an expression assigned that said "punch the piano", over a huge cluster chord in the contra register.
That was kinda nuts.
Don't give me any ideas, now.
Quote from: Jompa on May 11, 2013, 01:10:12 AMI think I remember one of Bespin's sheets, where he had an expression assigned that said "punch the piano", over a huge cluster chord in the contra register.
That was kinda nuts.
XD Which one is that? I want to see it now.
I don't remember! I am sure it was one of the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon songs, though.
I tried looking for it (I checked every single one of his arrangements) and I didn't find it D: I may have overlooked it.
Quote from: Jompa on May 11, 2013, 08:31:20 AMI am sure it was one of the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon songs
that narrows it down
Quote from: MaestroUGC on May 11, 2013, 12:42:47 AMHow so?
I thought bespinben's arrangements were hard to play, but I think you take the cake.
Quote from: FireArrow on May 10, 2013, 03:22:10 PMgod, your worse then bespinben
Bespinben >›››››››››› God
Quote from: FireArrow on May 11, 2013, 02:03:45 PMI thought bespinben's arrangements were hard to play, but I think you take the cake.
He takes the stripper inside the cake! - that's how hard these are
Quote from: Waddle Bro on May 11, 2013, 02:09:51 PMBespinben>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>God
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All of this praise for Bespinben makes me feel all giddy.
I love that little run in measure 48. And... well... It looked okay..... ..... Until about measure 34 with that derp chord that no human hand is big enough to reach easily..
DekuTrombonist>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bespinben.
^Uhhhh... I think you have too many ">"s in there. Try two.
(But if you mean their arrangements, you're actually pretty close)
Quote from: MaestroUGC on May 11, 2013, 03:07:30 PMAll of this praise for Bespinben makes me feel all giddy.
For what it's worth, I had some problems with his arrangements. I think he was a great arranger, though, because he always responded to feedback or criticism well, and he got a lot done. I look forward to his return.
Plus, there aren't many people who would legitimately arrange an entire soundtrack for a video game, which he has not only expressed interest in doing, but also has done a HUGE amount of a gigantic soundtrack.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 11, 2013, 05:07:58 PMI look forward to his return.
Say what? He's coming back!?
P.S.~ Sorry Maestro. We've kinda turned your arrangement thread into the "Discuss Bespinben" thread. :P
Quote from: JDMEK5 on May 11, 2013, 05:42:16 PMSay what? He's coming back!?
...where have you been?
.... It was obvious huh? Ok. I'll be quiet now. :P
It's not obvious, I guess, but he is evangelizing for two years. It's assumed that once those two years are up, he'll return.
And when he does I guess I'll be forced to go back to my corner...
we all will XD
Here comes another one.
[N64] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time-"Lost Woods"-MaestroUGC ZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/58trk29hrhshkzp/The%20Legend%20of%20Zelda-Ocarina%20of%20Time%20-%20Lost%20Woods-Ver.%202.zip)
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsnLWyFvi3k&feature=youtu.be)
Nice - I didn't even know it was possible to make lost woods that hard.
I don't think I've ever praised how awesome and stunning you are, Maestro. If I have, here's more. I know for sure you'll achieve great things and I'm not the only one who thinks so. Quite a bit of my "irl" friends say they often find themselves on this page(hi Niko you bastard, remember that you still owe me those five euros). I know they feel the same I feel.
Hey, hey! Look at this thing I did a few days ago. You might notice a passing resemblence to a piece by a favorite composer of mine...
[GCN] Super Mario Sunshine-"Delfino Plaza"-MaestroUGC ZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qoab8u3wwcgsu8w/Super%20Mario%20Sunshine%20-%20Delfino%20Plaza%20-%20Ver.%202.zip)Bonus points if you can name the piece I'm referring too.
So I did something...different with this one. Hopefully it'll make sense, I've never really done something like this before.
[SNES]Super Mario RPG-"Forest Maze"-MaestroUGC ZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/js8zzayr6oppshz/Forest%20Maze%20Ver.%202.zip)
I think you have a wrong note in the second measure. That second A should be a G since you're kind of just stating the melody and haven't done anything with it yet. ^^"
Edit: this also reoccurs wherever you have this melody :/
Eh, you chose a pretty bad theme for a fugue, though I think you did pretty good job making it work. (Why so much parallel motion D:)
Also you don't really stay true to they fugue form. At some points you have four voices playing before you've introduced them all. :/
Edit: we should totes live chat about this piece sometime. :J
I'm ready when you are.
Analyzing something like this might help you:
^that was done surprisingly well! xD Though no one seems to use augmentation these days... :/
I'll just leave this here then. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQRTghSmQqE)
*cough* (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ta164bjnpt7e7st/oLpsr5CxLD)
Is this for the Orchestra Project?
It could be, but probably not exactly like this.
If you cared like very very much about counterpoint when you did this, then you have very very many "illegal" areas.
I don't care though, this was really nice!!
Oh, did a new Pokemon Game come out?
I hadn't noticed.Kanto Rhpasody No. 1 in E minor[GB] Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow-"Lavender Town-Mt. Moon-Viridian Forest"-Kanto Rhapsody No. 1-Maestro UGC ZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/kt4xt2mm1ijc48z/Kanto%20Rhapsody%20No.%201.zip)This is the first in a set of three.
Nice!!
I think I might be in love with your thing. Seriously I am in all honesty awestruck. You guys can all do this?!
So I started going through my arrangements and am in the process of both creating PDFs and udating their corresponding videos.
Sumper Mario Bros 3. - AirshipZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/h9rwcdhigrjm6kj/Airship.zip)
obvious rip-off of Mars just got obviouser :P
Naw, ya think?
it was a good thing you kept the harmony stagnant, too. i almost forgot what key we were in d:
You can't beat a good diminished 7th chord.
Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and...
Quote from: Jompa on October 02, 2013, 02:11:58 AMIf you cared like very very much about counterpoint when you did this, then you have very very many "illegal" areas.
I don't care though, this was really nice!!
Yeah, I get lost the second people start talking technical about music like this... I have no knowledge in this area, but will hopefully have that gap filled after doing composition at Uni for the next four years. :P
*SMACKSMACKSMACKSMACKSMACKSMACK* Yup, those dim7 chords have left their mark... XD Wonderful job, Maestro! I always look forward to listening to a new arrangement you produce because they're just simply amazing. Keep arranging more so I can have my day made more often! :D
Oh yes, a question for you, I think...
Question: Why DO you arrange? What makes you want to arrange? Think hard on that and let me know. :D
Answer: Money, Fame, Women.
youtube superstardom
Quote from: MaestroUGC on January 03, 2014, 05:43:32 PMAnswer: Money, Fame, Women.
I see... Do you get paid to arrange? That's really cool! I was listening to a radio interview about arrangers and they're not really that well-paid... XD You're famous alright! People love your stuff! I didn't know arranging attracted women. I guess I should do a lot more then. :P
I don't get paid, I'm hardly famous, and I'm single.
Bummer... XD There's obviously a motive, though. :)
It really just boils down to personal enjoyment. I'm combining my two passions, music and video games, into one. You have no idea how excited I get when I'm working on an arrangement these days.
Take the Kanto Rhapsody, the style in which I arranged those three pieces are taken straight from Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsodies in form, tone and flair. Liszt is one of my all time favorite composers and possibly my favorite composer of piano music. What he did with the rhapsodies I had wanted to do something similar; Liszt worked with folk and gypsy music he heard while traveling through Hungary while not even having a direct relationship to the country outside of heritage. I wanted to do the same with Pokémon, a game which I don't have any real history with and in itself deals with a lot of traveling from town to town.
Combining that with my ideology of RPG music, cinematic scenes aside, town themes and such as essentially folk music for the areas, I had found the perfect soundscape to achieve this homage.
I used to pump out arrangements at a rather fast rate, but now I don't even begin working on a new one until there's something I want to achieve with it.
Yeah, I agree completely. It's a perfect blend of two things I love as well. :)
Yup, I've listened to a lot of Liszt's works and admire him greatly. Your Kanto Rhapsody captures his style perfectly and it's just a lovely piece to listen to. Plus, I really like what you do with your arrangements. You actually ARRANGE them to fit what you want them become, whereas I just transcribe note for note. I hope to one day do what you do, but I don't feel like I have the musical knowledge to attempt it yet...
Thanks for answering, though! I think it's nice to know that people just do it for pure enjoyment. :D
Yes, earlier this week I had the idea to arrange "Great Mighty Poo" in the style of Tallis' "Spem in alium".
Needless to say it gives me great enjoyment whenever I think about the idea.
Oh my god, please do that! I would probably die listening to it. XDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wcwEUentFk
Why are all the related videos VEVOs. :/
YouTube.
"...the Kanto people have developed a unique sound in their native music and dances. It's far more atonal than the folk music of the Mushroom or Hylian peoples. However their anthems and patriotic music display more universal modes and yearn for peace and brotherhood and unity through their perverse sport."
A small taste of my chronicle through the Kanto Region. It's dangerous out there.
Kanto Rhapsody No. 2 in D minor[GB] Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow-"Title Theme-Silph Co."-Kanto Rhapsody No. 2-MaestroUGC ZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/1i0te765jft1b9o/Kanto%20Rhapsody%20No.%202.zip)
Awesome! :)
I tried to download some of your stuff, but it says your mediafire account has been suspended. :( When will the links be fixed?
Eventually, I'll probably use my next day off to update all of my links.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 17, 2014, 09:10:41 PMEventually, I'll probably use my next day off to update all of my links.
Will you finally be using dropbox?
I've been using dropbox, but I've never put my older stuff on it. Plus I moved some stuff around a while back and never updated the links.
If I may clear this up~
Quote from: Jompa on May 11, 2013, 01:10:12 AMI think I remember one of Bespin's sheets, where he had an expression assigned that said "punch the piano", over a huge cluster chord in the contra register.
That was kinda nuts.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on May 11, 2013, 01:10:47 AMDon't give me any ideas, now.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on May 11, 2013, 07:15:42 AMXD Which one is that? I want to see it now.
Quote from: Jompa on May 11, 2013, 08:31:20 AMI don't remember! I am sure it was one of the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon songs, though.
I tried looking for it (I checked every single one of his arrangements) and I didn't find it D: I may have overlooked it.
Link's Awakening - "Opening" (http://www.ninsheetm.us/download/mus/1302)
See measure 16.
(Now I understand why I had a dream late-2013 about someone needing to "drop a planet" on their keyboard to play my arrangements)Splendid job on the PokéRhapsodies btw Maestro.
It must have been a pretty big piano!
Posting it here for posterity, my entry for the current Arrangement Contest.
Happy Halloween!
As some of you might be aware, I recently placed second the 4th NSM Arrangement Contest (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6395.0), losing to Bloop who did a fantastic job.
My entry was the above piece and while I think it was quite good, it certainly wasn't the original idea I wanted to go with. See, the goal of the contest was to "Spookify a piece", take something not really known for being scary and flip it on its head. A novel idea, but me being me I wanted to take it one step further. I've always considered program music to be the most accessible and understood music in Western Tradition. So, in the tradition of musical storytelling, I figured I'd make a piece that seems suitable for a Halloween Campfire and in keeping with the one thing we all hold dear:
Video GamesIf the thousand of creepypastas out there have taught me anything, it's that nothing is scarier than a haunted game. So why not take it one step further?
A Haunted ArcadeSo I give you,
Night in the ArcadeMUS (https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8obdacx0ci5riy/Night%20in%20the%20Arcade.mus?dl=0)
PDF (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctub1uzly63g5g3/Night%20in%20the%20Arcade.pdf?dl=0)
A fiendish tale of Ghouls and Fiends from Above, Below, and Beyond.Featuring music from Galaga, Rally X, Dig Dug, Pac-Man, and Ms. Pac-Man.
Original composers, in chronological order:
Toshio Kai, Nobuyuki Ohnogi, Yuriko Keino
For your review.
Maestro for Prez 2028
Paid for by Nobody
Great stuff!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on September 02, 2013, 12:08:18 PMHey, hey! Look at this thing I did a few days ago. You might notice a passing resemblence to a piece by a favorite composer of mine...
[GCN] Super Mario Sunshine-"Delfino Plaza"-MaestroUGC ZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qoab8u3wwcgsu8w/Super%20Mario%20Sunshine%20-%20Delfino%20Plaza%20-%20Ver.%202.zip)
Bonus points if you can name the piece I'm referring too.
You have the links for these? If not, I'm gonna make a replacement for this song :)
Unless you'd like to redo it :)
I keep forgetting to fix my links.
And this isn't exactly a standard transcription that this site accepts, so if you want to make one for the site go for it.
ok :)
Quote from: mariolegofan on December 06, 2014, 02:24:43 PMIf not, I'm gonna make a replacement for this song :)
What's wrong with the current one?
Fixed all of the links to the ZIP files, finally.
Quote from: Deku Trombonist on December 06, 2014, 02:46:29 PMWhat's wrong with the current one?
Idk.....what do you think?
I think it needs redone or spiced up.
Remember when I used to make piano arrangements?
So we're at the end of the 4th Arrangement Contest here, and the theme this time is
Theme and Variations. The requirements were to have at least 5 variations, one had to be in a different meter, and one had to have a mode change. As host I couldn't play this time around, but considering I've done stuff like this in the past (i.e. 90% of my arrangements), it was probably for the best.
That wasn't to say I wasn't going to participate. Since today was the deadline, I figured I should post mine here, for posterity.
Realms of FamiliarityVariations on "Darkworld" from The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the PastMUS (https://www.dropbox.com/s/kupwoemm6mo91kn/Darkworld%20Variations.mus?dl=0)
PDF (https://www.dropbox.com/s/9tfobq5c58jpf58/Darkworld%20Variations.pdf?dl=0)
- Theme: The original, the classic, the masterpiece by Kondo.
- 1: Contrapunctus - Counter themes and varied orchestration.
- 2: Augetur - Augmentation of the rhythm, characterized by strong hits on the strong beats, with a nod to Bruckner for good measure.
- 3: Equus: Link and Epona, riding through the Darkworld
- 4: Tympano et tibia: A simple take featuring solo winds and a prominent timpani solo, glissandi abound!
- 5: Mortis: Funeral march.
- 6: Volatus: Flight, and a nod to the finale of Sibelius' Fifth.
- 7: Nox: The Dark World at night.
- 8: Iberia: The Spanish Dark World, filtered through Rimsky-Korsakov.
- 9: Magnus finis: Grand Finale, a combination of the finales of Beethoven's 7th, Brahms 1st, and Schubert's 9th.
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I have not been approached for the position. You can get more money when they come to you for stuff, rather than going to them.
That was veeerrryyy cool! ^^ Loved Iberia! The ending of the ending wasn't as powerful as I thought it would be but nonetheless, awesome!
Holy woah, how long did this take you?
Took me about three weeks all things considered, once I finally decided what I'd be doing. I kind of wanted this to be a sort of link between the two different worlds of VG and classical music, calling back to the past with several subtle and not-so-subtle nods to the outlined composers and works.
Iberia was practically a full overlay of Rimsky-Korsakov's Spanish Capriccio and the melody, as well as a vamping figure I been working with as the foundation for an original piece I'm working on. The finale loses it's punch, I think, because it's only digital. I didn't include it in the score but part of the "show" of it all is to have the solo violinist, who's been playing this rather nimble ostinato the entire time, to follow the momentum of the transition and literally jump out of his chair for the final variation, where he's got a real functional solo.
At any rate You can probably expect more stuff like this in the future. Everybody needs a hobby, and mine might as well be Classicalizing Video Game music.
Don't know how I feel about this... piece...
You feel amazed and astounded by the pure brilliance and majesty of this piece.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on January 25, 2015, 03:43:26 PMYou feel amazed and astounded by the pure brilliance and majesty of this piece.
I know I am at least....
Not that that counts for anything..........
Quote from: MaestroUGC on January 25, 2015, 03:43:26 PMYou feel amazed and astounded by the pure brilliance and majesty of this piece.
Well, it's not that I don't find your work a lack of there of. It's just I'm not as educated as you are in the different forms of orchestral styles that are engraved into your work. So, from my point of view, I feel as if I wouldn't be able to give a notable opinion other than the standard, "that sounded good."
What I do get a sense of is the passion for both sides; the video game fusion into its earlier roots.
I'm sure Rimsky Korsakov would be impressed. And for what it's worth, I am as well.
Well I've always prided myself on being able to bridge these two worlds together. So much so that at times I'll give direct nods or quotes to different pieces within my arrangements.
VG music has every potential within it to break out of its medium and stand as its own musical tradition alongside western classical, much like film music has. I'm just trying to nudge it along and show Kondo and Beethoven have a little something in common.
Critical feedback time!:
A lot of you guys have followed my stuff here for a long time, some of you since the beginning. And now the time has come for me to ask a few questions regarding my arrangements; all of 'em, piano, orchestral, or otherwise. Also, please no vague answers; this is going a long way for me in the future and these are something I need to have real answers for down the line.
1. For those of you who like what I do, why? What is it about the kind of arrangements I make that you like? Style? Technique?
2. For those of you who don't like my arrangements, why? Is it the way I present them? The fact that I alter these pieces at all?
3. Whenever I post something new, what's the first thing you notice? The game/series I chose to do? Or do you ignore that and look to see what I did with it?
4. When I do post something new, what's your general reaction before you listen/see it?
5. Of the arrangements I've made, which style do you prefer? A complete redesign of the original? Something more built on variations? Leaving it relatively unchanged but making it way flashier? Fusing VG music with more classically styled pieces?
5a. Which ones would you consider your favorite?
5b. Which ones would you consider your least favorite?
6. Not that I'm taking requests, but what game/series would you like to see me work with? Which ones would you like me to stay as far away from?
7. Do you feel that what I do is overshadowing or otherwise taking away from what the other arrangers here are doing, especially considering that I don't contribute to the site?
8. This is more intended for the arrangers here: Considering I lack some of the more serious polish and general attention to detail that you guys strive for, not to mention my general lack of skill in piano performance; do you feel my work lacks in certain areas of pianism/general traits of "good writing (personal opinion)"? In terms of musical analysis, do you feel my arrangements are subpar, adequate, average, etc.?
9. Do you find that any of what I'm doing to be otherwise lacking in any musical or artistic merit?
10. Do you feel that what I am doing is in any way a disservice or otherwise disrespectful to the original works and their composers?
The main reason why I'm asking these questions is because while making these arrangements is a fun hobby, I put as much critical effort into them as I do my own original music. So much so that at the end of the day these are very much a part of my musical portfolio as any symphony I've ever written. Hell, I've written 68 unique arrangements over about 6 years' time, almost 6 hours worth of music altogether. Sure they very wildly in terms of quality and general styles and taste, but they are a not-so-insignificant part of my work as a composer. I plan on going into the video game industry as a composer, and some of these may very well end up on my portfolio, as the ability to arrange is a necessary skill set for any composer to have. At the end of the day I have to be able to say that what I've done here, beyond helping me grow as a composer in my own right, has artistic value and isn't seen as a merely "derivative" from the original; something that can stand in its own right as worthwhile. For those of you who take the time to answer any of these questions, thank you.
Zachary "Maestro" Loy,
Composer at Large
Idk man, I just love listening to your Virtuoso stuff. I sure as hell can't play it lol
I was going to take a more thorough look through your stuff, but you should probably update your links first.
Most of my older stuff was hosted on Mediafire, because Dropbox wasn't a thing yet. I find a lot of my early arrangements to be less than adequate, so I haven't bothered fixing those links.
What I like: I don't pay much attention to your piano stuff but I love your orchestaral stuff. The uniqueness of them is amazing and how you arrange the instruments and how you use them.....I just love that. Your style of arranging is A+.
I don't really pay muh attention to the game series but just jump right in and listen because I know I'll get some enjoyment out of each arrangement. I would recommend doing more of games/series your fans are interested in and maybe have people that aren't fans make requests.....to keep it fresh.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PM7. Do you feel that what I do is overshadowing or otherwise taking away from what the other arrangers here are doing, especially considering that I don't contribute to the site?
Frankly, yes. Again, I really like your uniqueness in your arrangements and how you present them but you should have some balance. With all the talent you have it would be a shame not to contribute to the site which I think you should do! :)
Technically we aren't
just transcribing.....that's why we call it arranging because we do add things to spice it up. That's why it'd be great if you contributed. And we are always here to help!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PM8. This is more intended for the arrangers here: Considering I lack some of the more serious polish and general attention to detail that you guys strive for, not to mention my general lack of skill in piano performance; do you feel my work lacks in certain areas of pianism/general traits of "good writing (personal opinion)"? In terms of musical analysis, do you feel my arrangements are subpar, adequate, average, etc.?
Hmmmmm.....90% of your stuff I think is very musically sound and think it's A+. I only notice on rare occasions some "subpar" stuff but that's mostly only in your older arrangements. Again, your stuff is great!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PM10. Do you feel that what I am doing is in any way a disservice or otherwise disrespectful to the original works and their
No. I really think the composers would be proud of what you have done with their work. Your originality, uniqueness, and creativity are what makes all your songs what they are.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMI plan on going into the video game industry as a composer, and some of these may very well end up on my portfolio, as the ability to arrange is a necessary skill set for any composer to have. At the end of the day I have to be able to say that what I've done here, beyond helping me grow as a composer in my own right, has artistic value and isn't seen as a merely "derivative" from the original; something that can stand in its own right as worthwhile. For those of you who take the time to answer any of these questions, thank you.
I honestly think you would be a great video game composer and would totally support you in that decision. We need more good video game composers that have their heads screwed on right and that are musically trained.
My biggest advice for you is to keep do what you're doing: Bringing excellent arrangements and compositions. I also think you should try contributing to the site more....."transcribing/arranging" is also a great skill to have and is fun because you get really in depth in each song that composers worked hard to make.....which is rewarding :P
Again, great work! :)
1. I like your music because I enjoy seeing what classic video game themes can become in the hands of a capable musician. I like how you take these (sometimes) simple melodies and warp them into these monstrous masterpieces fit for Liszt himself. I am amazed to see that someone has the creativity to even consider doing something like this.
2. This question doesn't apply to me.
3. I don't really pay attention to the series (unless it is a Kanto Rhapsody). If it is a tune that I am familiar with, I am excited to see what is done to it.
4. When something new is posted, my usual reaction is "Yay! Let's see where this musical madman goes with this!"
5. I like the redesigns and the classical infusions the most (my favorites from each being The Underworld Theme from Mario and The Floating Ship from Mario 3 respectively). I like the redesigns because they require the arranger to be more creative with what kind of mood/imagery/style he/she is trying to convey. The Underworld Theme redesign is a good example because it takes the ominous feel of being underground and surrounded by enemies and combines it with the similar concept within Dante's Inferno. In the Floating Ship, I liked how you combined the bassline rhythm with the famous 5/4 rhythm from Mars from The Planets. Doing something like that requires a thorough enough knowledge of classical music to pull influences and apply them well.
6. I would love to see more of the Kanto Rhapsody series and maybe even branch out into the other Pokemon regions (Johto, Hoenn etc.). Also Final Fantasy because the music there is already AMAZING and I feel you could do a lot of good with them. I can't think of any series to stay away from.
7. I don't see how the fact that none of your arrangements are on the site itself takes away from other arrangers. One could easily say that you are more ambitious with your arrangements. But don't think that it is overshadowing others, they do what they do with VG arrangements and you do what you do.
8. Not a piano arranger. Or a pianist. I am a mallet percussionist.
9. I am interpreting this question to be an extension of number 8. As such, I don't feel qualified to answer properly.
10. ABSOLUTELY NOT! The way I see it, if someone wants to take an original melody or whatnot of mine and try to make it better in their own eyes I am all for it. I would be honored that other's like my music enough to put their own unique spin on it.
I hope my answers were helpful.
Monkeybull223
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMFor those of you who like what I do, why? What is it about the kind of arrangements I make that you like? Style? Technique?
I like that you take these themes and you expand on them, but they're still not RIDICULOUSLY hard, not along the lines of the Chopin etudes or anything. They have a lot of flash to them, with not nearly the gigantic technique required (though still
virtuoso!).
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMFor those of you who don't like my arrangements, why? Is it the way I present them? The fact that I alter these pieces at all?
Some of your themes I don't care for as much, mainly because it can be all build up with a meh payoff. Granted, I'm used to the climaxes of Liszt and Rachmaninoff (
et. al) so maybe I'm just being unfair, but since these arrangements are often based off of them (one arrangement had a quote easily recognizable from Chopin's Heroic Polonaise), it seems a litter lackluster in some arrangements. Maybe I'm just being cynical.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMWhenever I post something new, what's the first thing you notice? The game/series I chose to do? Or do you ignore that and look to see what I did with it?
If I'm listening to your new arrangement, I've usually only clicked on it if it's something I know or know of. I have a limited favorite selection of themes, so usually I don't listen to them (though when I do listen to a new one, it's still fun- the Airship Theme from Mario being one of my favorites) if I don't know them.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMWhen I do post something new, what's your general reaction before you listen/see it?
Usually I check to see if I know it- If I don't and I want to view it anyways, I usually listen to the original first and then listen to yours.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMOf the arrangements I've made, which style do you prefer? A complete redesign of the original? Something more built on variations? Leaving it relatively unchanged but making it way flashier? Fusing VG music with more classically styled pieces?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PM Leaving it relatively unchanged but making it way flashier? Fusing VG music with more classically styled pieces?
This.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMWhich ones would you consider your favorite?
Which ones would you consider your least favorite?
Airship Theme, and Delfino Plaza respectively. I actually like Delfino, it just doesn't have all that much real major statement of the big theme. It has a couple sections but it goes out of those really quickly.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMNot that I'm taking requests, but what game/series would you like to see me work with? Which ones would you like me to stay as far away from?
A lot more Pokemon, but especially outside just the Kanto Rhapsodies.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMDo you feel that what I do is overshadowing or otherwise taking away from what the other arrangers here are doing, especially considering that I don't contribute to the site?
A little bit; I'd like to see more of your regular arrangements, and see you more active on giving advice (though IIRC you have quite a bit in the past), but as far as I'm concerned you're doing great doing what you're doing.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMThis is more intended for the arrangers here: Considering I lack some of the more serious polish and general attention to detail that you guys strive for, not to mention my general lack of skill in piano performance; do you feel my work lacks in certain areas of pianism/general traits of "good writing (personal opinion)"? In terms of musical analysis, do you feel my arrangements are subpar, adequate, average, etc.?
Some of the "flashy" effects (and I mean very few, here), such as the tremolos in Delfino Plaza, are very easily created in Finale, but not so well translated at the ridiculously fast speeds (though I've managed to find workarounds for most of them)
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMDo you find that any of what I'm doing to be otherwise lacking in any musical or artistic merit?
Just most of the stuff I've already said.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMDo you feel that what I am doing is in any way a disservice or otherwise disrespectful to the original works and their composers?
No, and even if it was, I wouldn't care. That's the beauty of freedom of speech and freedom of expression, haha!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 20, 2015, 08:59:55 PMThe main reason why I'm asking these questions is because while making these arrangements is a fun hobby, I put as much critical effort into them as I do my own original music. So much so that at the end of the day these are very much a part of my musical portfolio as any symphony I've ever written. Hell, I've written 68 unique arrangements over about 6 years' time, almost 6 hours worth of music altogether. Sure they very wildly in terms of quality and general styles and taste, but they are a not-so-insignificant part of my work as a composer. I plan on going into the video game industry as a composer, and some of these may very well end up on my portfolio, as the ability to arrange is a necessary skill set for any composer to have. At the end of the day I have to be able to say that what I've done here, beyond helping me grow as a composer in my own right, has artistic value and isn't seen as a merely "derivative" from the original; something that can stand in its own right as worthwhile. For those of you who take the time to answer any of these questions, thank you.
Zachary "Maestro" Loy,
Composer at Large
I look forward to seeing your work!
Wow, it's been over a year since my last piano arrangement. Whoops.
[GB] Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow-"Pokémon Gym-Wild Pokémon Battle."-Kanto Rhapsody No. 3-MaestroUGC ZIP (https://www.dropbox.com/s/56bnsins1rmzm75/Kanto%20Rhapsody%20No.%203.zip?dl=0)"Not too long after my arrival I found myself swept up in some sort of festival. There were all manner of personalities around, and the event seemed to center on a great tournament. We were ushered into a massive coliseum, a beautifully decorated building that seemed more designed like a cathedral and a sports arena. The audience went into a frenzied state as the band played an anthem while a parade participants walked the field, sided by these astounding and somewhat bewildering creatures. I think there was a child there, too; couldn't have been much older than ten years.
Then two of the contestants took their places at opposite sides of the field, summoned their creatures, which I later learned were called "Pokémon", and proceeded to have them mercilessly attack each other in what could only be compared to something akin to dog fighting. All the while the crowd would scream and shout, and often break into a chant, and the band would even contribute to their musical cues! It was a wild mess.
Needless to say I was appalled, but intrigued as what seemed like a barbaric blood sport actually turned out to be something of a complex chess game. The trainers would size up their opponent's team and strategize their eventual victories.
The real surprise was at the end of the tournament, the child managed to soundly defeat his much older and more experienced opponents with nothing more than some sort of electrified mouse. As he took center stage the other competitors returned to the field, with their Pokémon in tow and in seemingly good health. I'm not sure what arcane magic they practice here to accomplish that, but the candy they kept throwing at the audience had a surprisingly revitalizing nature, so maybe they've figured something out here. It tasted terrible though.
The following day the locals seemed to return to normal, as though the tournament never happened. Someone later informed me that these things happen pretty routinely, more or less whenever the local zoologists discover new species from different regions. That evening I left for home, and I found myself humming some of the local folk songs I heard while on my journey, perhaps I'll write them down one day and play them for my friends.
I think those candies made me ill, I should probably see a doctor first..."
Taken from the journal of Zachary "Maestro" Loy, Digimusicologist, circa May-July, 2015
Good ideas, but some parts with the LH octaves are completely unplayable :P
A good example is 1:26