Role Reveal:
Wolves:
1. Head Honcho: TheZeldaPianist275
Humans:
2. Number Cruncher: ThatHiddenCharacter
3. Number Cruncher: XiaoMigros
4. Number Cruncher: Toby
5. Number Cruncher: E. Gadd Industries
6. Number Cruncher: magnet
7. Number Cruncher: SpecsFlyer17
8. Number Cruncher: A# Minor
Third Party:
9. The Phantom Number Swapper: Olimar12345
Head Honcho is the sole winner.
Actions List:
Spoiler
Night 1:
1. A# Minor: 35
2. TheZeldaPianist275: 55
3. Olimar12345: 1
4. E. Gadd Industries: 22 (PNS swapped to 1)
5. ThatHiddenCharacter: 74
6. SpecsFlyer17: 77
7. XiaoMigros: 6
8. magnet: 0
9. Toby: 88, 35
THC was wolfed.
Day 1:
Gadd was lynched.
Night 2:
1. A# Minor: 72, 35
2. TheZeldaPianist275: 27 (PNS attempted to swap to 5 but lol)
3. Olimar12345: 99
6. SpecsFlyer17: 52
7. XiaoMigros: 51
8. Magnet: 67 (randomized)
9. Toby: 90
A# Minor was wolfed.
Day 2:
Olimar was lynched.
Night 3:
2. TheZeldaPianist275: 53
6. SpecsFlyer17: 80
7. XiaoMigros: 45 (randomized)
8. Magnet: 54 (randomized)
9. Toby: 99
Magnet was wolfed.
Day 3:
Nobody was lynched.
Night 4:
2. TheZeldaPianist275: 13
6. SpecsFlyer17: 17, 18
7. XiaoMigros: 31 (randomized)
9. Toby: 50, 91, 51
Specs was wolfed.
Day 4:
Xiao was lynched.
HALL OF QUOTESSpoiler
Quote from: Toby on August 18, 2023, 12:53:05 PMTZP seems good at math so I personally nominate him to solve the game
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 18, 2023, 01:33:49 PM"misquote the art of war so people think you know what youre talking about"
- sun tzu, the art of war
Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on August 19, 2023, 12:50:00 PMThis is my last post. May the almighty BDS have mercy on our souls.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 19, 2023, 02:49:41 PMhi wolf, im the PNS!! please tell me who you are in DMs so we can win together, thanks
Quote from: magnet on August 19, 2023, 07:04:21 PMGuys, I don't think THC was the wolf
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 19, 2023, 09:03:00 PMHm. Well, if the wolf does claim to you, do me a solid and send them my way before you off them, pls! I would like to win too ; ;
Context: Olimar asking A# to send the wolf his way before revealing the wolf publicly, if the wolf claimed to A# first. A# agreed.
Quote from: A# Minor on August 20, 2023, 08:59:19 AMI'll explain after I get breakfast
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 20, 2023, 12:24:44 PMthis is quite some breakfast... reveal when
Quote from: SpecsFlyer17 on August 20, 2023, 12:39:34 PMThis is truly a breakfast of champions
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 21, 2023, 03:36:01 AMGonna assume you're just another human then. Have fun pretending to be me and getting no wolf claims out of it lol.
Context: Toby did not believe Olimar's PNS claim. Olimar did not take that sitting down.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 21, 2023, 11:37:39 AME. Gadd sus
hot damn E. Gadd sus
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 21, 2023, 11:38:23 AMwhy did it put it twice :sob:
Quote from: A# Minor on August 21, 2023, 11:43:48 AMYou are very suspicious of him, which is reasonable. No need to sob XD
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 21, 2023, 12:36:07 PMme too, im actually still eating yesterdays breakfast
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 21, 2023, 06:45:03 PMAight, now that it's night time foos I may comence my plan to aid my beloved wolf-senpai.
Quote from: A# Minor on August 22, 2023, 10:14:55 AMdoes anybody know where magnet is?
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on August 22, 2023, 10:40:34 AMCan probably track him down with a magnet of opposite polarity
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 22, 2023, 06:02:14 AMIt's a game of risks, and I've given the wolf-senpai the choice! [...] No matter what they choose, someone WILL die tonight.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 23, 2023, 03:37:22 PMLet the chaos ensue! It is all for my beloved wolf-senpai!!
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on August 31, 2023, 03:02:15 PMgood lord five more pages what the hell is happening
Quote from: Toby on August 31, 2023, 03:12:38 PMTZP stop reading and just vote Xiao
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on August 31, 2023, 03:14:20 PM-Also I have NOT been a nothingburger
So, I'm with TZP irl right now.
If anyone wants me to say anything mean or commit any acts of violence, I'm taking requests.
From a host's perspective, there were SO MANY tense moments throughout the game, especially toward the end. IMO, the no lynch strategy was hella risky and I'm not sure I would've supported it as a human player. It was less than an hour before the end of the night phase, and neither Specs nor Xiao had submitted a number. It was a genuine possibility that the game could've ended with a double kill if one or both of their numbers randomized the wrong way (though Specs did end up submitting a number in time, Xiao did not—was that intentional?).
Also, humans were ridiculously close to a double or even triple kill Night 1. THC caught a bullet for y'all; if he had picked one number higher, it would've been a triple kill, and if he had picked two numbers higher it would've been a double kill.
Xiao you lied about what number you picked night 1 and 2 and didn't follow the plan 3, or 4 lol
Quote from: Toby on August 31, 2023, 04:00:52 PMXiao you lied about what number you picked night 1 and 2 and didn't follow the plan 3, or 4 lol
I was also very confused about this. I had to re-check my PMs several times to make sure I didn't make a mistake.
someone please explain the PM from Olimar
QuoteI can switch it to specs, easy.
Xiao had it OUT for Olimar lol. Part of the reason I didn't cooperate with Olimar's plan N2 was because I thought he had already hit his win condition. If Xiao was truthful about his number, THC wouldn't have been the one who died, so I assumed Olimar had gotten lucky N1 and switched Xiao away from the number I picked. But apparently not.
And THEN Xiao convinced Olimar to switch MY number for a PNS wolfing but it failed because I was the wolf. Sorry bro--would have been happy to share the win!
I went into the last day really thinking TZP was going to get my vote, but I felt there being too many errors from Xiao that I just couldn't let myself lose to that
It's so difficult knowing things after death and then not being able to talk to anyone about it.
I kept seeing ways humans could still theoretically win, but if we're being honest, this game was lost before it even begun. TZP rolling wolf again was just bleh. He's too good at deception and no one suspected him until the end. It looked like a very fun game, though. Shame luck is not my strong suit. Next game I'm in better not be related to luck-based kills.
Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on August 31, 2023, 04:07:26 PMbut if we're being honest, this game was lost before it even begun.
No way dog, I was on the ropes for the last 72 hours. Toby had my number for sure
Also I'm really sorry I hit you THC
I so wanted to lynch you TZP but Xiao, I feel like you didn't do yourself any favours last day and there were clear mistakes if I lost to I would feel so silly
but TZP you played really well, you kept on bottom of everyone's suspicions. I only started considering you the last day
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on August 31, 2023, 04:05:32 PMXiao had it OUT for Olimar lol. Part of the reason I didn't cooperate with Olimar's plan N2 was because I thought he had already hit his win condition. If Xiao was truthful about his number, THC wouldn't have been the one who died, so I assumed Olimar had gotten lucky N1 and switched Xiao away from the number I picked. But apparently not.
And THEN Xiao convinced Olimar to switch MY number for a PNS wolfing but it failed because I was the wolf. Sorry bro--would have been happy to share the win!
Interesting! I assumed you were hoping to keep Olimar alive so he could back you up in a final lynch, thus achieving his alternate win condition by being the last human alive.
Also, thank you to everyone who helped make this game as active as it was!!! I had NO idea that the game would ever end up being this active. Apparently it's the third most active TWG, behind TWG XC (hosted by Davy) and TWG LXXII (hosted by Jub3r7).
Another note is that I deliberately tried to write the story so that whoever would be the last human alive would end up being revealed as the protagonist, a responsibility which ended up falling to Toby :P If the game somehow ended with all humans dead, then it would be revealed that the protagonist was the Head Honcho who had given themselves amnesia. If the game ended with a human win, the Head Honcho would've gotten away but everyone left alive would've been safe. If the PNS had won, there would've been a little "epilogue" wondering why they had been picked as the wildcard player and why they had been spared.
Every story was written at least a few hours ahead of time except the final story (I didn't want to have to write two or three completely different potential versions :P), with some sections left blank for modification until the phase actually updated.
Yeah not much suspect of TZP. Looking back, I REALLY shouldn't have been as gung-ho on the "Toby was the only one to benefit for not choosing 50!" logic. I started to pick up on the fact that literally anyone could've seen that. And sure enough, TZP (who's idea it was to begin with) did exactly that. Nice frame. I started to pick up on that, but I got wolfed soon after.
Bad beat on Night One for Olimar. TZP thought he won because Xiao's fake pick claim made him think the PNS had to have met the condition.
Also if THC had picked 75 instead of 74, that would've been a triple kill. He fell on the grenade to 'save' the team.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on August 31, 2023, 04:11:19 PMAlso I'm really sorry I hit you THC
S'all good. Like I said, random chance. I literally used a randomizer to pick my number.
Quote from: SpecsFlyer17 on August 31, 2023, 04:18:13 PMAlso if THC had picked 75 instead of 74, that would've been a triple kill. He fell on the grenade to 'save' the team.
Just call me Steve Rogers.
This game was super fun. I haven't played TWG in like 5 years or something so it was really cool to revisit and really fun to invest some energy into. I think I had about 180 posts lol which is probably my most ever.
I think the last games I played used Discord so having everything in topic was definitely different as I used to love a chat room and do reaction tests (although I forget how I even did them LOL)
I thought I was gonna be better at this than I was but my reads were terrible this game lol. But I'm at least proud for being able to defend myself and be the last surviving human
Bro TZP just rolled wolf twice in a row XDD
Also I didn't realize I picked the same number twice, I just picked any random multiple of 7 without checking lol. I was confused
Quote from: A# Minor on August 31, 2023, 04:31:04 PMBro TZP just rolled wolf twice in a row XDD
can we go three for threeFor any potential hosts out there, my strategy is to randomize
both the role list and the player list, and then match them both up. PMs are then sent out in the order of the randomized list top-to-bottom (to avoid
any possibility of timestamp shenanigans being used to discern roles). The unsorted list looks like this:
4. Number Cruncher: Toby
5. Number Cruncher: E. Gadd Industries
8. Number Cruncher: A# Minor
2. Number Cruncher: ThatHiddenCharacter
6. Number Cruncher: magnet
7. Number Cruncher: SpecsFlyer17
1. Head Honcho: TheZeldaPianist275
9. The Phantom Number Swapper: Olimar12345
3. Number Cruncher: XiaoMigros
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 31, 2023, 04:15:49 PMInteresting! I assumed you were hoping to keep Olimar alive so he could back you up in a final lynch, thus achieving his alternate win condition by being the last human alive.
Nah, not really, I knew I was gonna join Specs and Xiao in pushing for his lynch the next day. It was more just that I knew I could turn some heads and cause some chaos by not going along with an obviously beneficial scheme, and the fact that I thought he had already won soured the deal even more. I tried to launder my narrative of who would benefit from the missed double wolfing through Specs, but I feel like I was pretty heavy-handed with that and he kept the receipts so it didn't work out that well--probably my biggest mistake this game.
Also the Hall of Quotes got me ugly laughing. "E. Gadd sus....hot damn E. Gadd sus....Why did it post twice" is hilarious
THC and Toby, thank you for the kind words! It felt like quite an uphill battle, especially after the no lynch day.
BDS, thank you for hosting, I had a blast. You rock
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on August 31, 2023, 04:39:05 PMNah, not really, I knew I was gonna join Specs and Xiao in pushing for his lynch the next day. It was more just that I knew I could turn some heads and cause some chaos by not going along with an obviously beneficial scheme, and the fact that I thought he had already won soured the deal even more. I tried to launder my narrative of who would benefit from the missed double wolfing through Specs, but I feel like I was pretty heavy-handed with that and he kept the receipts so it didn't work out that well--probably my biggest mistake this game.
I think it definitely worked in your favor that you knew Specs IRL. It can be really hard in cases like that to shake off any biases toward people you're familiar with from outside the game (on the other hand though, being more familiar with a person could also potentially help you pick up on when they're bluffing or otherwise behaving out of character; it can really go either way).
QuoteAlso the Hall of Quotes got me ugly laughing. "E. Gadd sus....hot damn E. Gadd sus....Why did it post twice" is hilarious
i knew i needed to make one as soon as i saw toby's quote about you solving the game :D
QuoteBDS, thank you for hosting, I had a blast. You rock
No problem! Glad you enjoyed!!!
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 31, 2023, 04:50:24 PMi knew i needed to make one as soon as i saw toby's quote about you solving the game :D
yey, my breakfast thing made the cut
me not submitting numbers was intentional, i figured my odds weere better without human fallacy
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 31, 2023, 05:13:26 PMme not submitting numbers was intentional, i figured my odds weere better without human fallacy
well apparently they were XD
also I still feel silly about submitting the same number twice
Quote from: Toby on August 31, 2023, 04:05:14 PMsomeone please explain the PM from Olimar
THERE IS NO CONTEXT I GENUINELY DONT KNOW
i didnt realise it could mean specs the player until we were talking about that
maybe bds has a more comprehensive collection but i forgot to include him once
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 31, 2023, 05:13:26 PMme not submitting numbers was intentional, i figured my odds weere better without human fallacy
After you did it the second time, I figured as much—avoid any potential biases toward whatever number you would intentionally pick.
That double-or-nothing play of voting for TZP right toward the end was pretty insane too :P Makes sense given that Toby was 100% gonna vote for you anyway.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 31, 2023, 05:18:41 PMmaybe bds has a more comprehensive collection but i forgot to include him once
I looked back on my PMs as soon as it was brought up, but I'm still not sure? Olimar will definitely have to explain that one.
Quote from: SpecsFlyer17 on August 31, 2023, 03:47:41 PMSo, I'm with TZP irl right now.
If anyone wants me to say anything mean or commit any acts of violence, I'm taking requests.
call him a nothing burger
Quote from: SpecsFlyer17 on August 31, 2023, 03:47:41 PMSo, I'm with TZP irl right now.
If anyone wants me to say anything mean or commit any acts of violence, I'm taking requests.
OK this made me laugh way too hard
Ninja'd by Xiao: that's creative lol
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 31, 2023, 05:20:51 PMThat double-or-nothing play of voting for TZP right toward the end was pretty insane too :P Makes sense given that Toby was 100% gonna vote for you anyway.
yeah even though it ended up being -or-nothing i wouldnt have changed what i did, nut as i said in game it was too little too late...
props to tzp for being the wolf last time too so i suspected him less, good job on that
also, thanks so much for hosting, BDS! the game format and story provided for a really unique and exciting game experience, and im happy i got to live through it as long as i did
Yeah TZP great strategy being the wolf again. Since you were the wolf last time, it wasn't obvious that you were the wolf again. Excellent play there
Also I found this very funny:
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 22, 2023, 09:03:03 AMHeh ok so don't be mad, you aren't in any actual danger tonight.
Quote from: BDS, later that day...A# Minor was wolfed, having picked the number 35.
ok im done
Quote from: XiaoMigros on August 31, 2023, 05:27:42 PMalso, thanks so much for hosting, BDS! the game format and story provided for a really unique and exciting game experience, and im happy i got to live through it as long as i did
No problem!!! I love TWGs with little bits of story integrated, so I always (try to) add some story to make the experience more fun and novel.
Quote from: A# Minor on August 31, 2023, 06:15:42 PMAlso I found this very funny:
ok im done
That was pretty funny :P I didn't even realize you picked the same number twice until posting this topic.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 31, 2023, 08:15:07 PMNo problem!!! I love TWGs with little bits of story integrated, so I always (try to) add some story to make the experience more fun and novel.
Yeah, I loved the story! Thanks again for putting my requested phrase, I honestly didn't think you would do it :)
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 31, 2023, 08:15:07 PMThat was pretty funny :P I didn't even realize you picked the same number twice until posting this topic.
Me neither, I only realized when Specs said "35... interesting"
Wait a second, didn't Toby say that he swapped E. Gadd's number to 1 on night 1 when he was fake claiming PNS? How in the world was he correct??
Quote from: A# Minor on August 31, 2023, 10:58:23 PMWait a second, didn't Toby say that he swapped E. Gadd's number to 1 on night 1 when he was fake claiming PNS? How in the world was he correct??
Naw, he claimed he swapped E Gadd to 35. E Gadd got swapped to 1.
Quote from: SpecsFlyer17 on August 31, 2023, 11:34:52 PMNaw, he claimed he swapped E Gadd to 35. E Gadd got swapped to 1.
Oh OK. Guess I got mixed up then lol
Dang, well played, TZP! Thanks for hosting, BDS! I had fun!
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 01, 2023, 01:55:39 PMDang, well played, TZP! Thanks for hosting, BDS! I had fun!
Glad you enjoyed!!! :D
I also liked a lot of the funny PM titles people came up with. I think my favorite was "TWG help im bad at math" which was the PM chain between Gadd and A#. Overall I got roughly
16 new pages of PMs related to the game (which corresponds to like 226 PMs I think if I'm not bad at math???).