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Title: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: Zeta on June 17, 2023, 02:23:21 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Fire Emblem
Game: Fire Emblem: Thracia 776
Console: Super Nintendo Entertainment System
Title: Sara
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Libera (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5291)

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Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: Libera on June 17, 2023, 02:23:54 PM
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: XiaoMigros on June 18, 2023, 01:36:53 AM
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: Static on June 19, 2023, 11:40:02 AM
What sounds like mordents in m3 and 11 (and 9) is actually just an extra echo channel. (here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lf_P9aG21EqFsKS9XPXLEqcaAUxhG7gn/view?usp=sharing)'s a version without the echo)

Quote from: XiaoMigros on June 18, 2023, 01:36:53 AMPerhaps the grace notes would be better written as 16ths?
Since they're not strictly 16th values I think grace notes are actually more appropriate in m7 and 15.

In m18, I'm not hearing the G being restruck on beat 3. It sounds like the Ab is an triplet 8th note.
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: XiaoMigros on June 19, 2023, 11:53:42 AM
Quote from: Static on June 19, 2023, 11:40:02 AMSince they're not strictly 16th values I think grace notes are actually more appropriate in m7 and 15.
My only concern is that grace notes might be interpreted too shortly
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: Latios212 on June 21, 2023, 04:24:51 PM
For what it's worth, I think I'd personally prefer seeing it as 16ths to be more explicit about the delay of the melody note. I guess it's alright to keep it as is - though don't appoggiatura usually not have the slashes when the main melody note is delayed? I forget since I don't normally distinguish them that way.
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: XiaoMigros on June 21, 2023, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on June 21, 2023, 04:24:51 PMdon't appoggiatura usually not have the slashes when the main melody note is delayed?
I thought it was the opposite- slashes mean that the grace note(s) start on the beat and the note is delayed, no slashes mean the grace note precedes the beat and the main note is struck right on it
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: The Deku Trombonist on June 22, 2023, 04:15:16 AM
It's quite an in depth topic but the reader's digest version is:
Slash = acciaccatura (what is most commonly meant when people say grace note these days)
No slash = appoggiatura (or sometimes acciaccatura in older editions, depending on context)

Appoggiatura (when notated with a grace note) takes away from the following note.
Acciaccatura is crushed against the following note, either at the start of it (ie on the beat) or just before, depending on the performance practice of the period/style/composer.
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: Libera on July 20, 2023, 02:54:56 AM
Sorry for the wait.  Thanks for all the discussion.

Mordents:

That's interesting that they're not actually written in but are in the echo channel.  Still, I think they have that effect when you listen to it so I'd prefer to have them in.  I didn't feel like the one in 9 was as noticeable as the others, but I'm happy to add it.

Graces:

I think I'd prefer to leave them as graces since, as Static said, they're not quite sixteenths.  I think you always run into this problem that the performer might misinterpret things, but I don't think it's a big deal here.  Most people would have listened to the original playing these old sheets anyway.

Quote from: Static on June 19, 2023, 11:40:02 AMIn m18, I'm not hearing the G being restruck on beat 3. It sounds like the Ab is an triplet 8th note.

Yes I think you're right.  It's a lot clearer in the echo-less clip you posted.  Fixed.



Files updated, thanks everyone!
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: XiaoMigros on July 20, 2023, 03:15:08 AM
I have nothing to add, this looks great!
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: Latios212 on July 20, 2023, 05:11:42 AM
Looks good to me! Nice to finally get a Thracia sheet on site!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401094846107877377/1093726541533413376/image.png
Title: Re: [SNES] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - "Sara" by Libera
Post by: Zeta on July 20, 2023, 05:11:49 AM
This submission has been accepted by Latios212 (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4344).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot