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Title: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: Zeta on March 14, 2021, 08:43:38 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Animal Crossing
Game: Animal Crossing: Wild World
Console: Nintendo DS
Title: 10:00 A.M.
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: ayycast (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6913)

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Title: Re: [Wii] Animal Crossing: City Folk - "10 a.m. (normal)" by ayycast
Post by: Static on March 14, 2021, 10:28:47 PM
Hey, welcome to NinSheetMusic. In the future, remember to post some kind of audio recording with your sheet to help us check it more effectively/quickly. Here's some quick links I usually use (from the Animal Crossing Wiki): Normal (https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/animalcrossing/images/3/33/ACCF_10_AM.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150816152136&format=original), Rainy (https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/animalcrossing/images/3/34/ACCF_10AM_Rain.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20160309040040&format=original), Snowy (https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/animalcrossing/images/7/7f/ACCF_10AM_Snow.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20160309040009&format=original).

From your file, it looks like you have a full version of Finale, and you definitely have a good grasp of solid transcription and notation practices - great! There's a few general issues I have though:

First of all, we only allow piano arrangements to the site, so you'll have to leave out the percussion parts. You can still include percussion parts if you intend for them to be played by hand (i.e. tapping a pencil), but that's something you'll have to indicate in the score.

Secondly, we usually prefer to go by the original game that a track appeared in. If you weren't aware, all of the hourly music from City Folk was first used in Wild World and are exactly the same pieces. Because of that, I changed the submission title (be sure to change your sheet accordingly). (I also changed the title to match the site's naming conventions for these hourly tunes)

Thirdly, we (mostly me) would really prefer if you include all three variations in the same sheet (here (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/4698)'s an example of how that would look). There are several older Animal Crossing sheets on site (mainly from GC and WW) that don't yet have the extra variations, but the rest of them do. It just helps us have a more comprehensive collection of music, and for Animal Crossing tracks it's usually not too much extra effort. Listening again to the Snow and Rain versions, they sound so similar that you should feel free to condense them into one variation (see this (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/2003) as an example). (Also this helps you since now you don't have to submit three separate, almost-identical sheets)

If you have any questions/concerns, let me know

Edit: Also forgot to mention, please look over our formatting guidelines (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=481.0). It's mostly just text stuff, easily fixable.
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: ayycast on March 14, 2021, 11:12:46 PM
Hey, thank you!

Thanks for letting me know all of that. WW is the only AC game I haven't touched. lol

Got it.
I'll remove those percussion parts, change the title, add the variations, add an audio file and fix the formatting!

I'll definitely keep all this in mind for future posts.  :)
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: Static on March 14, 2021, 11:25:55 PM
Just to clarify, you don't need to submit an audio file through the NSM panel, just post something in the thread after you submit anything (could be a file link, YouTube video, etc.). You just need the midi of your arrangement for the panel, so you don't need to post anything now bc I did
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: Static on March 16, 2021, 08:20:09 PM
Alright, feedback time
Now this is all fine and good, but... I think you could easily get away with writing this entire piece with just 1 staff (still using both hands). There's not a lot going on here, and those LH dyads could easily be added to the top staff in a 2nd layer. In addition, you could probably fit both variations on one page by doing this. Up to you though.

Here (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/2352)'s an example of a single-staff arrangement btw, although this one doesn't use any layers.
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: ayycast on March 20, 2021, 06:21:33 PM
Hey Static!

Thanks for the feedback on this sheet! I'll make the changes and repost.

I definitely agree with your thoughts on putting it all on 1 staff. Makes a lot more sense.
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: Static on March 20, 2021, 07:50:17 PM
Looks great! Just a few more things:
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: ayycast on March 21, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
Thanks for your patience and guidance on how I should be tweaking this!

Did not even notice the margins being that way.
Misunderstood what you meant on those arpeggiations and got carried away. Right, the notes were not aligned in layer 1 and 2 on those measures mentioned. Will fix and reupload. (:
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: Static on March 21, 2021, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: ayycast on March 21, 2021, 02:23:56 PMThanks for your patience and guidance on how I should be tweaking this!

Did not even notice the margins being that way.
Misunderstood what you meant on those arpeggiations and got carried away. Right, the notes were not aligned in layer 1 and 2 on those measures mentioned. Will fix and reupload. (:
Glad to help! It's all part of the learning process

Just a few last things to fix:

I have the files here (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ld1NcvcD0wWmUSTqQPFTRJTh5PUNbs36?usp=sharing) with all these changes for you, so if they look good to you feel free to upload them.
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: ayycast on March 21, 2021, 05:36:57 PM
Hey Static,

Oh I see! Staccato on the accordion melody for the normal variant on the final note on the melodies motif.
Agreed! I was definitely confusing variations together.

I'll use the sheets you've shared!
Your version is so much more aesthetic with the staves fitting evenly.

In attempting to reconstruct your sheet I've finally figured out what you mean by spacing staves and measure counts on rows. 
Did not realize you could set a measure count for each stave nor did I understand page layout tool could "Space Systems Evenly".
Won't be forgetting those settings in the future! (:
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: Static on March 21, 2021, 05:49:03 PM
Quote from: ayycast on March 21, 2021, 05:36:57 PMIn attempting to reconstruct your sheet I've finally figured out what you mean by spacing staves and measure counts on rows. 
Did not realize you could set a measure count for each stave nor did I understand page layout tool could "Space Systems Evenly".
Won't be forgetting those settings in the future! (:
Awesome! Yeah, if you ever want to know more about that stuff feel free to ask (either here or in the Discord). There's a lot of nuances when it comes to music engraving, and even the updaters are still learning stuff all the time (mostly from Bespinben). The general idea is trying to get sheets to look as good as they sound, but it takes a lot of practice.

For the measure count, the easiest way is to highlight a selection of measures with the Selection Tool, then press Ctrl+M (or go to Edit > Utilities > Fit Measures). From there, you can set how many measures from that selection you want to fit in a single system (line).

With the Page Layout Tool, you can edit the margins of each system by right-clicking the handles that appear on the top-left of each system (the little squares) and selecting Edit Margins. You can also edit the overall page margins by going to Page Layout on top and selecting Page Margins > Edit Page Margins.

Hope this helps for the future! I'll approve this sheet now
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: Latios212 on March 24, 2021, 09:10:43 AM
Last few things! This is looking good.

- As with the other AC sheets, just use "Rainy / Snowy" instead of "Rainy / Snowy Variation"
- The staccato positioning for the last note in m. 29 is off.
- Some of the note spacings are off in the rainy/snowy variation - m. 54, 58, 62, 66. Go to the Special Tools palette > Note Position Tool, and right click to Remove Manual Adjustments on these notes.
- The lower ties in m. 55 and 63 would be better flipped upwards so that they point away from the lower layer note in the next measure.
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: Latios212 on March 28, 2021, 10:34:02 AM
Made the above tiny edits for you (there were a few other places where the spacing was a little off too, and the URL was missing a trailing slash). Good to go, let's get this in :)
Title: Re: [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - "10:00 A.M." by ayycast
Post by: Zeta on March 28, 2021, 10:34:08 AM
This submission has been accepted by Latios212 (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4344).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot