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Title: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Tobbeh99 on June 03, 2020, 12:37:29 PM
Thought of participating to this.


Zelda: Link's Awakening:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qky19rr5e2o03l/Zelda%20Link%27s%20Awakening%20Fixed%20Sheets.zip?dl=0
Ost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5o_UOPNaQQ&list=PLDF2556A8C45BF850

Zelda: Oracle of Seasaons/Ages:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbnqrhcr1s1t0ut/Zelda%20Oracles%20URL%20Fix.zip?dl=0
Ost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNHrUBooqrg&list=PLD7475F03564D42CA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3LXEInpQCc&list=PL2F0B084555138765

Yoshi's Story - Baby Bowser's Lullaby:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1xsku6h5xka2lhx/Baby%20Bowser%27s%20Lullaby.zip?dl=0
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf76B8W38eQ

Also I've edited my own arrangements as well:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cdam9rrz595g5yg/AADcls_u7E-y0Jy9D8bgAw7-a?dl=0

The songs:
K.K. Bazaar (Aircheck) - Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOdmBguWR1g)
Voyager Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBDLR_QrHVM)
Dark Covenant Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnZ6tbDuoC0)
Successor of Fate Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwHAgObH6JE)
Eternal Bond Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRZpdcVAtf4)
Red Wings Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB9rsHLSOzs)
Clair Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWvW_7VTVbE)
Victory Road Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7qKPn-kAmM)
Courage (Dungeon) Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dflxhP07PDQ)
Courage (Dungeon) (Duet) Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dflxhP07PDQ)
Into The Wilderness Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRV_A5ZDXyo)
Zed's Theme Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7dO2edfy00)
A Person's Warmth Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4uR39jNeGE)
Zelda Awakens Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_K072Fkeoo)
A Siege of Worlds Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ab4B0_xw4o)

look here (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=6181.240) for a more detailed log of what I fixed
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on June 03, 2020, 01:43:54 PM
Thanks Tobbeh and sorry for not having the time to go through them in the time since you made that changelog.

Please read the instructions (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=11261.0) in the project post and DM me your email address so you can add the sheets to the shared Dropbox folder for consideration.
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on June 06, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
Hey Tobbeh - I see your changelog for your sheets, but what did you change for the Link's Awakening/Oracles sheets? Could you provide a changelog for those? It would be helpful to note what we need to review and re-review for each arrangement... whether it was nothing more than a URL change or a significant reworking of the arrangement.

Additionally, just messaged Bespinben; some of the Link's Awakening sheets need to be redone a la Tal Tal Heights...
- Mabe Village
- Opening
- Ballad of the Wind Fish
- Link Awakens

Would you like to do them? I'd be happy to help out with one or two of these if needed
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Tobbeh99 on June 06, 2020, 05:29:24 PM
Well for Oracles I have a word document with the changes in the link in the OP. But the one for Link's Awakening seems to be missing... :/
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on June 06, 2020, 07:37:24 PM
Mind making one? It would be really helpful to us.

Also let me know if you want to redo any of those four Link's Awakening sheets that need redoing, otherwise I'll assume you don't and we'll see if I or someone else has time to instead. (I'd like to take Mabe Village)
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Tobbeh99 on June 07, 2020, 02:44:26 AM
eehh.. not really feeling for it. I did various changes to Link's Awakening. Some were only small formatting fixes, others were fixing wrong notes etc.

And don't know about those songs you mentioned. :/
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on June 07, 2020, 06:36:41 AM
I guess that's okay... though you'll need to take responsibility for your own sheets, unless you're okay with us making edits to them.

Noted about those few Link's Awakening sheets, I'll see if we can get them replaced elsewhere

edit: took care of Mabe Village
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on July 07, 2020, 04:02:08 PM
Baby Bowser's Lullaby
Looks pretty good! A few things:
- The grace notes in m. 8/19 aren't really necessary after the trills
- The slurs in m. 19 could use a bit of flattening
- Margins are pretty small overall - you've got a ton of space to use on page 2 as well so I'd recommend expanding the last couple of systems and sticking with 4/system
- The articulations in the last measure should go under the notes
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on August 13, 2020, 05:10:30 PM
Hey Tobbeh - hope you are doing well! Just checking in here. You know how the submissions process works - there needs to be a back and forth conversation between the updaters and the arranger in order for a sheet to be accepted. You've put in a ton of sheets here which is great, but if you're not going to put in the effort to go through them with us (see: not replying to my last couple of posts or helping enumerate what you've edited) it's not fair for the updaters to review these sheets over other ones by other arrangers who are actively putting in hard work. Not to shrug off the work you've already put into these sheets, but the review process is important.

You can let me know if you're going to be around to respond to feedback on your sheets; otherwise we'll prioritize arrangements from other arrangers, and if we have time pick some from here that we need for the site and go over them and make edits ourselves.
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 15, 2020, 12:24:30 PM
Sorry for not responding. I believe I fixed the things you asked me about in Baby Bower's Lullaby, but forgot to reply.
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on August 18, 2020, 03:31:33 PM
No worries. There are still a bunch of things to go though:

Quote from: Latios212 on July 07, 2020, 04:02:08 PM- The grace notes in m. 8/19 aren't really necessary after the trills
These are fine to keep if you want, but just want to be sure

Quote from: Latios212 on July 07, 2020, 04:02:08 PM- The slurs in m. 19 could use a bit of flattening
- Margins are pretty small overall - you've got a ton of space to use on page 2 as well so I'd recommend expanding the last couple of systems and sticking with 4/system
- The articulations in the last measure should go under the notes
Not sure if I'm looking at the right file? These still... the slurs are still rather oddly curved, the top and bottom margins are still small (the text extends outside the margins too), and the articulations still appear above the notes in my file.

In addition:
- Some staccatos appear to be flipped on the wrong side of the note - for example m. 1 beat 1 upper layer, m. 9 beat 1 RH, RH notes in m. 8.
- The rolls in m. 3 and similar should extend as far as the noteheads, not the full length of the stems.



Quote from: Latios212 on August 13, 2020, 05:10:30 PMYou can let me know if you're going to be around to respond to feedback on your sheets; otherwise we'll prioritize arrangements from other arrangers, and if we have time pick some from here that we need for the site and go over them and make edits ourselves.
Still this as well - are you going to be around to make edits or should we plan on doing some for you?
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 19, 2020, 03:28:56 AM
Hmm. The thing is that, on my original file (musx) it looks fine. But on the mus. file, it looks bad. I think it's a thing with the new finale version. So I exported a musx. file now. It should work.
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on August 21, 2020, 04:22:22 PM
I see some of the stuff updated, like the articulations in the last measure and the slurs at the top of page 2. But the following still look unchanged:
Quote from: Latios212 on July 07, 2020, 04:02:08 PM- Margins are pretty small overall - you've got a ton of space to use on page 2 as well so I'd recommend expanding the last couple of systems and sticking with 4/system
Quote from: Latios212 on August 18, 2020, 03:31:33 PMSome staccatos appear to be flipped on the wrong side of the note - for example m. 1 beat 1 upper layer, m. 9 beat 1 RH, RH notes in m. 8.
- The rolls in m. 3 and similar should extend as far as the noteheads, not the full length of the stems.



And this one more time... I would appreciate an answer on this. So that we can plan accordingly on spending time making edits for you, or not. (It also might be faster if we do some edits on the edit replacements instead of going back and forth)
Quote from: Latios212 on August 18, 2020, 03:31:33 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on August 13, 2020, 05:10:30 PMYou can let me know if you're going to be around to respond to feedback on your sheets; otherwise we'll prioritize arrangements from other arrangers, and if we have time pick some from here that we need for the site and go over them and make edits ourselves.
Still this as well - are you going to be around to make edits or should we plan on doing some for you?
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 22, 2020, 12:28:19 AM
It's fine if you do some edits. Especially if they are just fixes and touch-ups. I'm a bit unsure if I'll be around, hopefully I will to answer your posts.
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on August 28, 2020, 08:03:31 PM
Got it, thanks!

Baby Bowser's Lullaby
Fixed margins, spacing, and what seemed to be v26 problems with articulations. Approved!

MSF and I started going through the Link's Awakening sheets, and will work on fixing them up as we go through them. Changelog to come as we make edits and corrections.
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Static on August 30, 2020, 09:19:27 AM
Baby Bowser's Lullaby
- Some of the arpeggio markings seem a bit too close to the notes/accidentals.
- m5 beat 1: Ab should be a G# (Amaj9(b13)sus4 chord).
- m5 beat 3: Eb and Gb should be D# and F# (Emaj9(b13)sus4 chord).
- m14 beat 1: Eb should be D# (D#dim7/A chord).
- m14 beat 3: Ab should be G# (E7b9 chord).
- m18-19 RH: The middle notes should be spelled as sharps rather than flats (En, D#, Cx, D#, C#, Bn).
- Copyright info should be within the page margins.

I've made all the fixes for you, and am accepting.
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 31, 2020, 09:44:40 AM
Are you sure about those chords. Those seem a bit too complex. I thought most of them was just dim-chords. Apart from m.4 and 14. beat 1, which I think I saw as a rootless D7b9 chord.

And 18-19 I spelled it that way to show the interval (minor 5th). I think it looks easier that way.
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Static on August 31, 2020, 10:04:55 AM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on August 31, 2020, 09:44:40 AMAre you sure about those chords. Those seem a bit too complex. I thought most of them was just dim-chords. Apart from m.4 and 14. beat 1, which I think I saw as a rootless D7b9 chord.
On their own, they would be just diminshed chords, but the LH is part of the chord too. Using m5 beat 1 as an example, A-D-E-F-G# makes more sense than A-D-E-F-Ab. The Ab and A clash; it should be written as a major 7th.

For m5 beat 4, it's the same deal with E-F#-C-D#; Eb doesn't make sense in this context.

m14 is more simple; beat 1 is an A diminished chord but spelling it with sharps rather than flats makes the intervals easier to read imo; Eb to Bn is a very weird interval. D#dim7 is the same as Adim7, just spelled differently.

For m14 beat 3, I think E7b9 makes the most sense; this is the most simple chord here: E-G#-B-D-F.

Quote from: Tobbeh99 on August 31, 2020, 09:44:40 AMAnd 18-19 I spelled it that way to show the interval (minor 5th). I think it looks easier that way.
I thought the augmented 4ths were easier to read, but looking at it again, I think m18 looks better as dim5ths and m19 looks better as augmented 4ths. A-C#-G is a very natural chord to play (just an A7), and then F-A-B makes more sense than F-A-Cb. I changed m18 back to how you had it before.

Hopefully the chord theory stuff makes sense but let me know if you have questions!
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on December 29, 2020, 12:56:49 PM
Sorry for not giving an update here earlier! We're slowly making our way through these sheets. There's a separate tab on the main spreadsheet for the status of this batch since there's so many.

Quote from: Tobbeh99 on August 22, 2020, 12:28:19 AMIt's fine if you do some edits. Especially if they are just fixes and touch-ups. I'm a bit unsure if I'll be around, hopefully I will to answer your posts.
Additionally, see this doc for an up-to-date changelog on some adjustments we're making as we go through them: link (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rH-hGn04PH0DLK8wMu1TN1d_HPdwnYf46kR3DNbD7vk/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on February 21, 2021, 05:39:46 PM
We've finished going through the Link's Awakening sheets - details are on the spreadsheet and in the doc linked above. Some are excluded because they didn't do much with the sheet already on site and we decided are fine with just a URL update or need more work done on them in the future.

In the next part of the update, we'll include the bunch of Link's Awakening sheets that we've gone over and should have your self-edits reuploaded too. The Oracles sheets we're still going through and will likely come at a later time since there's quite a lot of music to review there.

Thanks again for your patience and for fixing these sheets up!
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Static on February 23, 2021, 07:41:32 PM
Going through a couple of your self-edits today:

Red Wings

Courage (Solo version)

These two have been reuploaded to the site, and I'll continue with the rest tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tobbeh99's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on February 27, 2021, 02:47:13 PM
To summarize:
- We went through all the Link's Awakening sheets. We've finished cleaning up and accepting 15 of them to go up with the update. The rest either consisted of edits too minor to include in a replacements update, or still needed significant work.
- We went through all of the self-edits and will be reuploading them to the site.
- For the Oracles sheets, we did a high level pass and determined roughly the amount of work for each. Given the amount of work already put into this project and the substantial amount of stuff to go through here, we'll be holding off on these. I think submitting them through regular submissions would be better so we can keep going at them at a regular pace in the interest of not holding this project up any longer given we've already gone through all your other sheets. I can take care of handling putting them through submissions for you, if you like.