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Here's what I've got so far:

• Terra's Theme (Major edit) - [.musx] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/doy91ghd1m0desb/Maelstrom%20-%20Terra%27s%20Theme.musx?dl=1) [Original] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6t_uyg_pF8)
• Pokey Means Business! (Major edit) - [.musx] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/tj0ybiflub0xi7y/Maelstrom%20-%20Pokey%20Means%20Business%21.musx?dl=1) [Original] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLR4mnndnj0)
• Spirit of Avarice (Edit) - [.musx] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xlxvzjpf153o9lq/Spirit%20of%20Avarice.musx?dl=1) [Original] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha3Gegu37XE)
• Lunar Clock ~ Luna Dial (Major edit) - [.musx] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/c8fkwxjd60bctnj/Touhou%206%20-%20Embodiment%20of%20Scarlet%20Devil.musx?dl=1) [Original] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01skyPMeeoc)
• Catastrophe in Bhava-agra ~ Wonderful Heaven (Major Edit) [original] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpimM9FF_cI)
• Encounter (Challenge) - [Original] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI1VpElKWF8)

Added Spirit of Avarice. This one was tricky because the original bassline was really nice and creative, but also extrapolated a lot and was unplayable. I adjusted it in areas where the creativity made it unplayable or unfaithful to the original, and fixed up the formatting while I was at it. I did not add an "edited by" since i judged my work wasn't enough to deserve that.

(https://i.fiery.me/kGx1B.jpg)

Main changes were incorperating the drum beats in the 2nd section, re-formatting everything, and fixing a few stray notes.

My time up and disappeared, but I still want to get the 3 sheets in that I have substantial work done on. Those being the MGS2 main theme, my edit of Catastrophe in Bhava-agra, and edited my already existing sheet of Encounter from MGS1. These will be done, but they may be slightly late.

well, finale just corrupted and lost my finished files so I think it might be a bit longer

Forgot to post about it, but my MGS Encounter theme has been fixed up and my final touhou edit is done and both are in the dropbox folder

Terra's Theme

• For m5 onward, I'm assuming you don't want the pedal to be used at all? That's what I would suggest, to keep the march feel. However, there are a few sections that just aren't playable without using the pedal, like m11-12 and m29. I would consider changing the octave of some of the notes, like moving the C#-B-A# in m11-12 Layer 2 up, and just removing the low C in m29. If you want to keep m29 sounding full, just add the A# between the F# and C# (I'd probably do this for m25 also).
• m17-22 RH: Because the melody is sometimes in the top or bottom layer, I would split the long notes into separate layers as well, so it's clear that the G# is the melody note. As it is now, it's impossible to tell the melody just from reading it.
• m35-36 RH: The 2nd layer has some triplet stuff on beat 4 of each of those measures, it's not just whole notes.
• The m39 section just sounds empty without that timpani part. I'd strongly suggest including it.
• Another thing that would make the m39 section sound a little more full is changing the RH harmonies. In the original, it's a 3-voice part all the way through (2 violins and a banjo, with a horn doubling one of the violins). I would use that instead of octaves with one note in between, especially since the doubled parts are playing at the same octave anyway.

Oops forgot to post. Terra's theme has been updated

Encounter - Metal Gear Solid

Looks nice. A few things:
- m3 RH Layer 2, I don't hear any C's in there (just the A and the E).
- m6-7 RH beats 2.5-3.5 have a harmony layer under the melody.
- Perhaps add the high strings into the RH in m9?
- Given that there are staccatos, I think beat 4 of m20 RH would make more sense as two sixteenths and an eighth rest afterward.
- Dynamics are positioned weirdly throughout the whole sheet. They should be centered between the staves and directly above/below the noteheads of the beats they're corresponding. A lot of the RH dynamics look really awkward so close to the notes/stems (m10, m19, m21, m23).
- m12 LH comes really close to the staff below it. Since you have so much empty space on page 2, I would recommend just moving one system from page 1 onto page 2 and space the systems out more so that you have more breathing room. This also lets you center RH-staff-only dynamics above the notes without crowding them in.

Quote from: Static on June 23, 2020, 12:15:59 PMTerra's Theme
Another thing that would make the m39 section sound a little more full is changing the RH harmonies. In the original, it's a 3-voice part all the way through (2 violins and a banjo, with a horn doubling one of the violins). I would use that instead of octaves with one note in between, especially since the doubled parts are playing at the same octave anyway.

This part is the same as it was before. I'd still recommend using the lower 3rd voice instead of a lower octave, especially since this part is a little more subdued than the rest of the piece. Up to you I guess though.

oh crap I still had it open and thought I had finished but aparently I hadn't

Quote from: Static on July 11, 2020, 12:59:25 PMThis part is the same as it was before. I'd still recommend using the lower 3rd voice instead of a lower octave, especially since this part is a little more subdued than the rest of the piece. Up to you I guess though.

Finally fixed

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 10, 2020, 05:14:08 PMEncounter - Metal Gear Solid

Added more notes in addition to those to m7-8 RH.
Everything else fixed.

Quote from: Maelstrom on July 19, 2020, 04:12:25 PMFinally fixed

Sorry for the delay, I've approved it now.

Encounter - Metal Gear Solid - A few last remaining things:
- m21 RH beat 1 also has an E. I don't think there's a C there in the original, but you can keep it for emphasis if you want.
- Is there any particular reason that m4/7/8/22 beats 2.5-3.5 are staccato-slur-staccato? All notes sound equally short to me, so I think it would be better phrased with all three notes under a single slur and the third note staccato.
- I don't remember why I didn't comment on this before, so I will ask about it now. Is there any reason why LH beat 4 of m8/13/22 isn't doubled an octave on the last note?
- Just a few remaining dynamic positioning nitpicks as always (as long as v26 didn't mess them up on import): dynamics in m1, m4, m25 are much closer to the RH than the LH and could be centered better between the staves. Dynamic in m7 is very close to the barline. Dynamic above m10 RH is very close to touching the note itself.

Also, is it just me or does the staff size look way too small? Finale says the page is scaled at 90% but it looks smaller than that...

Quote from: mastersuperfan on August 12, 2020, 01:57:55 PMAlso, is it just me or does the staff size look way too small? Finale says the page is scaled at 90% but it looks smaller than that...

Yeah this does look super sparse - everything would fit fine at 100%. Also the top and right margins are smaller than the others (0.5).

All updated with each and every suggestion.

Encounter - Metal Gear Solid looks good, approved

Terra's Theme - Final Fantasy VI
- Not sure if it got messed up importing into v26 but the Layer 2 tie in m17 RH should be flipped downward.
- The repeat ending numbers should only display "1." and "2." instead of including 3 and 4.
- I think the Layer 1 tie in m33 RH would look better flipped downward, although it's fine if you want to keep it upward.
- m39 dynamic is really close to the barline and could also be moved upward.
- Not super fond of the way m55-56 LH sounds, particularly the fifth on beat 3. I hear where it comes from... I just don't think it sounds great on piano. That's just my take, though.
- D.S. at the end is almost touching the eighth notes on beat 4. (Maybe another v26 import error? I see the last two eighth notes flipped upward, but maybe they should be flipped down instead?)

Encounter
The only suggestion I have would be to make sure the string melody is on top in m25-28 Layer 2; it should be A-A-A-B-C-D. I know this will make the chords less dense in 25-27, but I think adding a crescendo into m28 would work really well as voices get added in.

Terra's Theme
All changed.

Encounter
I don't hear the As in m25 and 26 at all. Rather, I hear the top being the F and the chord below it being the rest. I did, however, hear it for 27-28 so I added it in.

Terra's Theme - Final Fantasy VI - Last few things that I didn't notice earlier, mostly visual:
- Tempo should be 160 instead of 150.
- Dynamics in m1 and m5 are a bit too far to the left and should be moved right to be aligned with beat 1.
- The quarter rest in m8 RH beat 3 is a little too high for my taste. I think moving it down one increment would look better.
- Finale tends to put repeat ending numbers (m19 and m21) a bit too far to the right; they should be moved left to be aligned with beat 1.
- m32 LH beat 4 should be two eighth notes instead of a triplet.
- Could you add a little bit of space to the beginning of m59 to give the rolled chord symbol some breathing room?

Also, I always thought that there was an eighth note G# on beat 2.5 of m1-4, and the fact that there actually isn't is going to bother me every time I listen to this track from now on.

Terra
Done and done and done and done and done and done

Quote from: Maelstrom on August 30, 2020, 07:36:40 PMTerra
Done and done and done and done and done and done

nice, accepted

Quote from: Maelstrom on August 30, 2020, 05:40:22 PMEncounter
I don't hear the As in m25 and 26 at all. Rather, I hear the top being the F and the chord below it being the rest. I did, however, hear it for 27-28 so I added it in.

You already have the As in 25 and 26, I was just suggesting that they be the top note (but below Layer 2) rather than C and D, but looking at it again I think it looks and sounds fine.
For m27-28, I also meant that they be the top note but I meant that they should still be below Layer 2, sorry if I was unclear. All of Layer 2 should be below Layer 1, but the top notes in Layer 2 should be A-B-C-D (i.e. move those notes down an octave); hopefully that makes sense.

Ah, gotcha. Changed.

Quote from: Maelstrom on August 31, 2020, 05:41:00 AMAh, gotcha. Changed.

Looks good, accepted.

Spirit of Avarice
- I actually prefer MasterProX's original LH accompaniment for m29-36, since that's when the drums kick back in, most notably the snare on all the offbeat 8ths. Changing the accompaniment also helps m21-28 contrast more with the surrounding parts.
- Copyright info, page numbers, and page titles are outside the margins; for Page 1 you could probably decrease the space between systems to make this work. The top title/composer/arranger info also seems a little cramped.
- Left side of the tempo marking should be aligned with the left side of the time signature.

discussed over discord and updated, finally

Spirit of Avarice

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 13, 2020, 12:38:28 PMdiscussed over discord and updated, finally

A few last things:

• Copyright info and page numbers are outside the margins
• I think you've made enough changes to warrant an "Edited by" on this one, in my opinion at least. You've made changes to the rhythms and notes, not just formatting/text, so I think it should be noted.

Catastrophe in Bhava-Agra ~ Wonderful Heaven

• m1-8 LH: Some of those rhythms sound different (more simplified) than what I'm hearing in the original track, but I think they sound fine enough.
• m10 RH beat 2: This should be eight 32nd notes rather than four 16th notes. I recommend putting some in the LH to make it easier to play.
• m26 beat 4.5: Maybe add some extra chord tones in both hands to emphasize the sudden key change. Just one note in both hands sounds pretty weak compared to the original.
• m57 RH: The Layer 1 rhythm is incorrect.
• If you make every system 4 measures instead of 5, it'll completely fill up that 4th page (and it also looks less cramped).

Lunar Clock ~ Luna Dial

• m1 RH beat 2: Just use a staccato 8th note, it looks cleaner than a 16th + 16th rest and it sounds the same.
• m3 RH beats 1-2: You should probably beam this like m1 RH, where beat 2 is shown, since it's a similar rhythm.
• It's kind of hard to hear, but it sounds like the melodic line in m1 and 3 RH continues into beats 1-2 of m2 and 4 RH. It shouldn't just be rests there.
• m13: Should be a key change to Eb minor here it looks like.
• m15, 19-20, 27-28 RH Layer 1 should be written like the LH (with ties), since this is 3/4 time.
• m23 RH Layer 1 should be beamed with ties since this is 3/4 time (beat 3 should be shown).
• The DC is slightly outside the staff.

Catastrophe in BA

Quote from: Static on December 15, 2020, 12:59:20 PM

• m1-8 LH: Some of those rhythms sound different (more simplified) than what I'm hearing in the original track, but I think they sound fine enough.

Yeah, that was intentional

I don't think I like the 32nd notes because they sound more like a smear than actual notes at this speed. The choice there was intentional.

Changed the rhythms in m57 and simplified the faster chords so someone doesn't break their hand restriking a note at lightspeed. 

All other changes made

Spirit of Avarice
Updated as recommended

Lunar Clock
I want to move the D.S. but every time, no matter how I get there, I have the sheet open and the repeat tool selected, finale crashes. Help would be appreciated.
All other changes made, I approximated the m2/4 stuff the best I could. It's really quite hard to hear.

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 15, 2020, 02:48:51 PMCatastrophe in BAYeah, that was intentional
Spirit of Avarice
Lunar Clock

All those things make sense to me, so I made some finishing adjustments (page numbers, https, fixing the D.C.) and will now approve all three.

Pokey Means Business!
This is... quite something

- "Edited byMaelstrom"
- You've got some space on page 3... you can afford to space things out on page 1 a bit more. The first few systems are a bit unnecessarily tight.
- You might want to spell the last A# in m. 1-4 as Bb. 28-35 as well.
- Some places need staccatos. A few of them include the eighth notes in m. 5, the downbeats in the LH in m. 24+
- m. 7 LH beat 4.25 is a G instead of A
- m. 10 LH should look like m. 14 LH (bad c/p?)
- m. 14 beat 2.5 RH doesn't sound quite right - should it match beat 1?
- The bass of m. 16-19 doesn't sound like droning eighths to me, and neither does the percussion. Maybe adjust the rhythm there a bit?
- Unlike the beginning, the chords in m. 28-35 don't noticeably lift on beat 4.5 - I'd suggest just filling in the measure
- Double barline and courtesy LH natural in m. 44?
- Last dyad in m. 56/60 - should be F#-C# (a whole step higher)?

Quote from: Latios212 on December 16, 2020, 08:14:13 PMPokey Means Business!
- m. 14 beat 2.5 RH doesn't sound quite right - should it match beat 1?

regarding m10/14 - The chord in question is undoubtedly a E-C 6th. I have made both look like m10 because inverting it to a 3rd makes it actually playable, because the jump would otherwise be absurd.

Quote- The bass of m. 16-19 doesn't sound like droning eighths to me, and neither does the percussion. Maybe adjust the rhythm there a bit?

I'd like to leave this as is, but with added staccatos. One thing I intentionally did in this song is avoid repeated 16ths where possible.

Everything else fixed.

Yep, both of those are fine. Everything else looks good to me as well, so approved!

Spirit of Avarice
- Quotation marks around page 2 title
- Would recommend not showing the naturals in the key change
- There's an extra staccato on the first RH note in m. 6/8/10

Fixed

Great, accepted

Lunar Clock ~ Luna Dial - Touhou 6

- I'm hearing something very different for m1-4:
(https://i.imgur.com/18s2tg8.png)
- On m6 RH beat 2.5, I can see where the Eb comes from, but to me it seems less like a part of the line itself and more like a stray percussion hit that isn't strongly pitched.
- m9-12 RH beat 3.5 should be C instead of G.
- Shouldn't beat 1 of m32/36/40 RH be raised an octave?

Catastrophe in Bhava-Agra ~ Wonderful Heaven - Touhou 10.5
- In m1-8, why do alternating measures have different LH rhythms? The LH pattern sounds like it should be the same in all measures.
- I think m10 would be easier to read if it was all under the 8va.
- Change dynamic to mf at m11? More dynamics in general would be nice.
- In m15/19/23/etc., I would change the LH dyad on beat 2.5 to be like the other dyads (F-A instead of A-D). The high D sticks out a little too much there and I don't hear it in the original.
- m13/17/etc. LH beat 4 has a sixteenth note rhythm instead of just eighth notes.
- Rhythm in m33 RH is written wrong
- I think m46-47b should be written under the 8va as well.
- This might just be a v26 import thing, but for me, the pedal markings in m42-44 look way too close to the notes.
- The LH chords in m48-63 are really muddy. Maybe remove one note from each? It's true that the chords in the original also sound thick, but on piano I feel like these are overpowering.
- In m54 RH, sounds to me like the notes under the B's should both be F#'s instead of G and D.
- In m57 RH, the Layer 2 note on beat 1 sounds like it should be C instead of F.
- In 63 RH, the C and Bn on beats 4-4.25 should be lowered an octave.
- I don't hear those sixteenth notes at the end of m68 RH. Just sounds like a G eighth note on beat 4.5.
- In m75 RH, beat 2.5 sounds like it should be tied to beat 3.

Lunar Clock
discussed for far too long on discord and updated

Catastrophe
Discussed over discord again and updated

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 21, 2020, 04:01:52 PMLunar Clock
discussed for far too long on discord and updated

Catastrophe
Discussed over discord again and updated

both accepted

Pokey Means Business
Here are my thoughts on the accidentals:

• Keep m37-41 the same; the bassline looks weird but it almost implies chords similar to the previous measures, so I think it's fine to leave it as is
• m47 beat 3 and similar places (places with B and Eb) should be B and D# instead
• It'd probably be best to spell the last chord in m56/60 with as many common tones as possible, so Gb-Eb-Bb
• You could put m6-27 in D minor since that's what it is there, up to you I guess.

Otherwise, the sheet looks good

discussed over discord, but didn't change m47 b3 because that's a Bb in the chord, not a B. If it was a B, I'd agree with you.

File updated

Quote from: Maelstrom on February 27, 2021, 12:14:56 PMdiscussed over discord, but didn't change m47 b3 because that's a Bb in the chord, not a B. If it was a B, I'd agree with you.

i can't read sheet music apparently

Accepted